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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • bob t
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    11/15/72 30 minute Playing in the Band

    So happy that at least 5 songs from that show could be added to 11/17/72 Wichita show!!! Good weekend everyone. Bob t

  • JimInMD
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    Re: How Sweet It Is / The Trees

    Thanks VGuy.. my first taste into Garcia Live Vol. 12.

    Holy crap is the sound good on this one. Very sweet indeed, thanks for the uplift in my spirits. This will carry me into the weekend.

    ..and how about Sarah Fulcher's backup vocals? Wow.. super excited for this one.

    Edit: I plan on randomly adding Rush themes to the subject of my posts. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with KF2112, right? It's hemispheres weekend after all..

    Keep smiling folks..

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    This is very sweet....

    https://youtu.be/BTnmrNvs2ZQ
    Regarding that Long Beach show from today in 1987 had a rocking second set. I was there! Third show! And that day, friends, was the day i got IT.

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Origins and artwork

    I wake up each morning, eagerly hoping to learn of a release from 1968, so imagine my disheartenment(?) when I saw that the Origins graphic novel special edition would have unreleased music from 1968 ONLY IN LP FORMAT! I hope that the powers-that-be see fit to make a CD version of the Origins set, or release the music on a disc. Please!

    The artwork on the singles collection is so beautiful and original. I have purchased them all, even though I don't have any means to play them! Perhaps one of those artists could be hired for the Dave's Picks series, or the mandate (if it exists--I doubt it) that the DaP art must be skeleton-themed could be relaxed? Or maybe there could be beards on the covers, but no skeletons? :) First-world problems, to be sure . . .

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    First.. USam, I'm sorry to hear this news.. the silver lining is they seem to have been discharge from the hospital.. Let's hope for as full, complete and speedy recovery as possible and sending positive vibes your way. I get what you're saying though.. these issues affect us all, no one is immune and hospitalization often leaves us at the bottom of a valley with a huge financial hill to climb. My dad spent a couple months in the Neuro ICU a few years ago, the final bill was more than $1M. He's ok now though thanks to a very skilled neurosurgeon in Richmond (and the resulting proud owner of my Fillmore West 69 the complete recordings box set, we called it even St. Stephen [kidding of course]).

    KF.. sorry to disappoint, but I as an avid Rush fan myself, I am ok with the twist on words.

    Enjoying the positive vibes here lately too, and some I think very honest and on point reviews of recent releases. Nice deep dive on '73. I see the points made on the good and not so glowing comments too.. there is some unevenness to '73, especially in the first sets. Sometimes they seemed to somehow fit ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag (or more accurately 4 1/2 hours of music on a three disc release). 1973 always has that work in progress feel to it, but it also opens the door to some of the more creative, free flowing jammy GD that grew that year and seemed to peek (at least to me) in 74, losing some of it's luster during hiatus. 73 contains it's own bag of tricks..

    Finally.. just delving into the song list on the January 73 Jerry release announced this week. I'm salivating.. there's some takes on songs I have never heard them play here.. and it's a Rex/Betty multi-track? Say what! These had to have been returned as part of the lost stash. Aren't we a lucky bunch?

    Wishing all a very good weekend and sending positive thoughts to the family members suffering and recovering out there.

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Give to the Max

    (Sam, sorry to hear about your plight!)

    Yesterday was Give to the Max Day here in Minnesota; people are encouraged to use that site that day to give money to various MN charities and non-profits. So that day always reminds me to come on here and gently encourage people to go make donations to The Rex Foundation and Archive.org, two non-profits near and dear to Deadheads' hearts. Thanks for considering it!

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    good thoughts on this thread lately

    thank you all for the good reads, Vguy, good vibes sent your way, hang in there. I too have had a bad couple of months with family in the hospital. All is better now but the bills, over a quarter of a million for hospital stay, how can they justify these prices? one bill is for a nurse, not a doctor, to visit weekly, she is here for about 10 mins, that will be 189.50$ please. Medicaid, here we come. Never in my life have I not been able to pay a bill, but this one I guess the state will have to pick up. In this state, you can't have any assets over 3,000$ to qualify for Medicaid, so now we must become wards of the state. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile and thank the universe that all pulled thru. Unfortunately, the prognosis is not that great and there will be many more visits to the specialists and the primary dr that will only increase this financial burden, but how do you put a cost on a loved ones life? You can't. I guess this will be the last year that I will be able to justify the expense of a Dave's Pick subscription, the state only accepts expenses that are essential and necessary, and according to them, the calming, therapeutic effect of Grateful Dead music does not qualify.
    One thing is for sure, if you do not have insurance in this country, do not get sick, it will ruin you plus you will receive sub standard care, as you are now officially a "charity case". How did it get this bad? Why have all the health care professionals let this happen? What's worse is everyone knows it's all fucked up, but yet, they allow it to continue and do nothing but say "it's all messed up but that's what we have to work with". I do believe that the one candidate that stands up and says enough is enough about this health care crisis would win any election hands down, unfortunately, the insurance companies and the drug companies and the medical professionals will never let that happen, all in the name of greed.

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    48-minute Lovelight?!

    No, but thanks. :) Wait. Unless that goes into a 20-minute Victim and then one of those super-slow Terrapins with no jamming. :-O

    I used to dutifully slog my way through every Lovelight, until the recently-released one where Pigpen talks about getting a gun to shoot a woman while he says something to this woman about, "Get out of here, C#%T!!" That put me off "Love"light (and to an extent, Pigpen) for good.

    And yes--I, too, have had some damaged/defective discs the past few years, after having nothing but good luck for decades.

    This October through December of 1973 stretch might be the Dead's best ever, to my ears. My notes for DaP 5 (11/17/73) ask if disc 2 is the best hour of GD EVER. I'm seeing a lot of 'A+' marks in my notes for this fall run.

  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!

    On this day in GD history, they only played four shows...

    1969 Lanai Theater, CA: Pig-fest with an Easy Wind, Next Time You See Me, Boss Man, Good Lovin', and a 48min Lovelight, for those into that sort of thing. However, I can't seem to find a decent recording - even the Charlie Miller transfer sounds muddy and warbly.

    1971 Austin, TX: So hot, they released it as a Road Trips... Fall of 71 is smoking! 1st set Dark Star>El Paso>Dark Star, interesting and well played 2nd set that just EXPLODES into NFA>GDTRFB>NFA!

    1972 OK City: Fall of 72 - the greatest period of Dead ever? I don't know, but I know it's in the conversation... All around solid show - 1st set begins with Bertha, Beat It On Down the Line, Bird Song...BBB... Bobby is mixed WAY high in the beginning of Bertha, and you can't really hear the rest of the band, but it's pretty cool to hear Bobby isolated, and the mix settles in about half-way through. 2nd set features a 30-min Playin, followed by Big RxR, which I think is a pretty great spot for that tune. Good stuff. Here's the link:

    https://archive.org/details/gd1972-11-15.sbd.miller.110631.flac16/gd72-…

    1987 Long Beach: 2nd Set - Scarlet>Fire>LLR>He's Gone>Drums>Space>The Other One>Morning Dew>Around Around>Watchtower E: Black Muddy River - That's a hell of a good looking set!

    Happy Friday all... Hope everyone has a rockin' weekend!

    Peace

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    What a disappointing morning

    There's a title to a post called Re: Moving Pictures that has nothing to do with the Rush album, and there is another title to a post called Dark Star that has nothing to do with the song.

    Streaming - not for me at this time. I only listen to the Dead and there is nothing that can replace my phone system where I have every release in chronological order plus soundboards in a second chronologically ordered list. To my knowledge there's still a ton of Grateful Dead limited edition material that you just can't get on the streaming services. Once in a while I'll pull out something different, but it doesn't make up for nearly the time I spend listening to the Dead so it would just be a waste of money. My last phase was the Rolling Stones leading up to 50th anniversary. That went on for about two years before I re-engaged the Grateful Dead.

    Would love to know how artists and record companies make money anymore with all the streaming in piracy. It doesn't even sound possible to me but maybe I just needed properly explained. If I had to guess, I would say there is a direct correlation between streaming and piracy, and the high price of concert tickets. I have a feeling artist don't make nearly what they used to off of their recorded music from the studio oh, so they have to make their money on the road. But as far as I'm concerned I've seen all the good groups and I'd be surprised if a new one came along that caught my interest.

    Dick's Picks 23 is rocking my optimal right now. Bobby comes through loud and clear on me and my uncle, and Tennessee Jed is no slouch either. And there's a 40-minute other one coming up... And then I'm going to listen to November 14th 1971, because I rarely go to that one and the ravings are out.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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...all these mentions of K-Tel and Ronco are walking me down memory lane That's some nostalgia right there.

Happy Friday Dead Freaks.

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Heh, heh, told ya that was a Bobby Dazzler! Glad your digging it, now if we could just get the Philly shows....

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Had the time of my life at the 85 show I was at, a couple of days before Halloween and it was a huge party. Speaking of beer, there was so much beer being spilled at that show, it was actually flowing down the steps like a waterfall. Jerry was in fine form and quite wasted, and he delivered a breathtaking "Comes a Time" that nite. Hard to believe it was 35 years ago.
I did not listen but I heard thru the grapevine that Dead and Co. picked up the pace some at playing in the sand. Now that was what we all wanted, too bad it took them 5 years to do it.

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Just to follow up....sorry Mr Ones et el.....(though Sammy Smith’s is definetly the sheete).
Kid, thanks for the Fridge Link, beeerrryyy interesting! That Oberon seems to show up a lot, have to hunt that down. Lagunitas; have had the IPA, liked it.
GLBC; ? Sounds familiar, but not sure if I’ve had, perhaps when visiting back on NY States West Coast 😉, where I have had some 12 Gates, really loved their Coffee Porter, enjoyed a bunch of that and Southern Teir IPA when I was home for 2 months moving pops into assisted living etc..
GENESSEE; speaking of the Tundra, my cousin was at the Genesse Brewpub in Rochester last year and said they had some mighty fine beers. This is funny because back in the day Genesse was THE locals cheap swill of choice that we wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole, now it’s micro beer, too funny!
YINGLING; America’s oldest brewery. Seems like it’s swill now? Back in the day we used to enjoy a pitcher of Porter down on Elmwood, but seems like it went downhill like many do when they get “popular”, kinda like..
SEIRRA NEVADA; is it just me or have their beers seemed to change since they became so big? I still like many of their fine products; Bigfoot BaerleyWine, Narwhal, Celebration, Torpedo, Stout, Porter etc, but something seems different?
HAZE, Crazed and dazed (see, I snuck in a music reference), got turned on to Oscar Blues Can O Bliss series, especially the Hazy IPA last year. Love their Dales (as Carlo mentioned), Old Chub Scoth Ale, Ten Fiddy, but the white whale that haunts me is the Velvet Elvis! Very limited in house offering that I unfortunately have never caught, Doooo!
ANCHOR; the Steamers are actually just one of their many flavors, probably their most well known, but so many other better to choose from if you can still find em; the Dry Hopped Steamers, Liberty Ales, (my favorite middle of summer beer), Go West IPA, Brewers IPA, Hummer, Bock, and of course the mighty Porter....was my all time favorite until we discovered the annual Christmas Beer. The Fog Breaker and the Coffee Porter look good, but chances of getting em here are slim to none. Our distributer is a douche and won’t get even if I pay up front for largish orders! Dick!
Going to the promised land for a wedding up in Sonoma next summer so hopefully we’ll finally make it to the Brewery in San Fran. Previous trips haven’t allowed so hoping to fulfill a 30 something year wish. Hope to visit Terrapin and Sweatwater too!
Yes, I do like beer...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AOiyksNlrY0

Ok, sorry, now back to our regular...
https://archive.org/details/gd85-04-07.sbd.sacks.3346.sbeok.shnf#
Best Easter Sunday Ever! Red Sweethearts for candy!

Hope y’all have a beery Weekend!

PS; my sources confirm KCJs rumor of D&C opening tour in Boulder....if only it wasn’t the middle of 🥶

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I know there are some Billy Strings fans out in these parts. Tonight and tomorrow there are free webcasts on the Relix Youtube channel. Free --- thats even cheaper than the Best of K Tel 8 track box set.

Also Saturday is another free webcast from Ghost Light. TBH I haven't listened to them but they feature Ms Holly Bowling, who is the most jamalicious keyboard player this side of Page McConnell. Again on the Relix Youtube channel.

And then on Sunday there's yet another free webcast on the Relix Youtube channel. Umphrey's McGee. I would bet some money on a Neil Peart / Rush tribute. I've seen them play YYZ and they crushed it. Their three percussionists together can almost pull off what Neil Peart could do by himself.

So in summary, sign up for the Relix email updates. They put out a lot of awesome free stuff.

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...just to be clear, I am not offended when talk turns to other topics, just amused. And Holy Crap, some of you dudes REALLY like beer. I had to give it up (only because I didn't want to die), but the breadth of the discussion is quite superb. I am jonesing for the Cream Box, which was just delayed a month, until March 6th. Dave's 33 can't come soon enough for me. Us music addicts are constantly in need of a fix......

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True story in thinking about small venues.... A good friend of mine from high school attended the University of Notre Dame. In the fall of 97, I went to visit him there. It was our junior year of college. He was living in a small house with some other dudes at the time, right outside of campus in South Bend. After the football game that Saturday a couple of his roommates played a live concert for their own house party of maybe 30-40 people tops. These dudes rocked it out...still remember standing right in front of my buddy’s roommate and guitarist Brendan Bayliss as he led the group through a flawless rendition of Cocaine. Right about that same time or shortly after they named themselves Umphrees McGee. Killer Band with one of the best improvisational guitar players in the world in Jake Cinninger. He is freakin unbelievable.

Edit: A Rush tribute would be very cool. RDG is correct. These guys have a lot of their own material however their covers are flat out amazing. Saw them do some really good Smashing Pumpkins here in KC at another small venue called Crossroads. They are also coming here on April 2nd. Hope to score some back stage passes.

Yeah, the Doctor told me not to drink anymore, but he didn’t say anything about drinking any less! Sorry, old joke...
Kinda like I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy...hey-ooooo! (Cue rim shot)
Doc did say I need to watch the tryglycerides so I have cut waayy back.

Nice Blazing Saddles reference, Mr. Ones.

Cutting back on many things fun myself. That time of the year.

Heading down the 1/17th rabbit hole. Nice recording, just starting to get good. Thanks Otis.

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Just to lead with a dead-related reference-- I don't recall anyone mentioning that after years of obscure, hard-to-figure out clues, Bolo recently gave us the easiest clue yet. The day before they announced the Jai Alai Fronton 1974 show, he posted New Years greetings in different languages with Jai Alai Fronton as one of the 'greetings.'

Beer and Bell's. As a Madison/Milwaukee transplant to southwest Michigan, I am very happy to have Bell's and to a lesser extent Founder's in the area. I can't drink IPA or other hoppy beers because they bug my sinuses. After one year of drinking IPA at Mishawaka Brewing Co. and waking up with a completely stuffed up nasal passage, I finally figured out it was the hops. So, I try to stick to good lagers.

Unfortunately in the micro-brewing industry, that generally means 'light' style beers. Bell's Lager of the Lakes was too hoppy the first year it was offered, but I have found that Founder's Solid Gold is a fine summer session beer. I suggest all brewers should visit the great state of Wisconsin to find out how to brew a good lager. Most of the microbreweries in Wisconsin offer solid lagers in addition to IPAs-- amber lagers, Dunkel lagers, Pilsner style lagers, etc.... I am particularly fond of Lakefront and Sprecher's offerings (Black Bavarian is a winter nectar).

Bell's has been my go-to for 20 years. For many years, the Pale Ale (with the monk label as described) was my summer and the Porter was my winter. I miss that Pale Ale-- good character and not too hoppy. Oberon is good, but overrated anymore. I like it better on tap. I really like the Best Brown fall seasonal-- good, malty biscuit flavor. I see they have a new Belgian White Ale-- has anyone tried that? It looks intriguing. Bell's Porter is in the fridge and some will be consumed tonight.

When I saw Ratdog or any other show at the Kzoo State Theater, I would hit Bell's for dinner and beers before the show and invariably would get lost on the way to the venue. The river and railroad tracks make for a weird street grid that I always struggled with on those nights.

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Ha.. Jai Ali Fronton doesn't even mean Happy New Year. It's more or less Spanish racquetball or Spanish basketball..

Too funny.. Every time I spend time on bolo clues, my IQ drops a point or two.

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Angry Jack, you are right about that Portland show. It was a gorgeous sunny day and then it snowed during the show. I remember it well because it was also my first show.

Walking around town with the gathering fleet of other dead heads made quite an impression on me at 19. It was like some stoner wonderland.

The band opened with Music Never Stopped, a song I knew from Blues for Allah, but I was such a novice that I remember wondering where the girl singer was. (Also, where was the sax?) Ha! Garcia's clear tone hit me right away, though, just delicately plucking at my limbic system.

Between sets, we moved from the floor to some seats off to the side to meet up with some other friends. My roommate decided to eat more paper. Later, when drums started, he began walking up and down the stairs, looking a little anxious.

When Space hit, he started jumping two or three rows down into some empty seats below us. Head first. Fortunately, he was a former high school gymnast and was still slender and wiry. So he somehow avoided injury. He must have done this three times before we could grab him. But we couldn't hold him long. When Day Tripper started, he took off into the portal out by the refreshment stands. He must have decided he was hot, because he started stripping off his clothes. He got down to his skivvies before the cops saw him and gave chase.

Panicked, he burst through an exit door and into the snow. A cop tackled him and held him down by his arms. ( I was right behind them. Fully clothed.) My buddy still squirmed in resistance so the cop wadded up some snow and pushed it into my friend's face. Being a naïve white suburban kid, I grabbed the cop's arm. Somehow he didn't punch me. I even managed to convince him that I could calm my buddy down and the cop eased up a bit. At this point, though, my buddy was nearly catatonic, so the cop put us both into the back of his car - gently- and drove us to the hospital.

I was worried about what was going to happen, but the ER docs put my friend in a back room and gave him Thorazine. About 30 minutes later, he was back to normal, if a little slow. Somehow, our other friends found us at the hospital and we managed to drive back to school at about 30 miles an hour through the snow.

My buddy never saw another show or ate any more paper, but he turned out quite well. About 30 years later, he managed to sell the company he founded for over 75 million and retired at 52.

I've revisited the show on you tube and while it doesn't hold up that well - the china doll was a total train wreck- Garcia does a little post china doll jam that is very interesting. And it definitely brought me back for more.

Pardon for the long post.

Some story.. wow. Glad it all turned out ok. Were the rental units involved in the aftermath?

Stoltzy.. ah, OE800 overdose. That could sour anyone. Honestly, I would probably be better off if the same happened to me..

Aren't we due for the official DaP 33 roll-out complete w/ seaside chat, song listing and another episode of Distracted Dave, our beloved vested crusader.

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Any Olde English 800 is an over do. Liquid seconal.

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Something to discuss during the lull in releases.
A lot of us seem to like beer, and we are super lucky to have the huge variety of craft brews to enjoy. Funny that craft brew is only about 24% of the U.S. beer market. When I drink quality craft beer I pee out Miller Lite.

Estimated-Eyes:
Bell’s Bright White is just Winter White with a new name and label. That’s the wheat beer I drink when I can’t get Oberon.

Slowdog Noodle:
Drinking a 3 Floyd’s right now.
When I was at Fare Thee Well I was at a beer store a few blocks west of Soldier Field. An employee was on the phone with someone who asked if they had any Zombie Dust and another employee said there was some in the back. I asked if I could have a 6-pack and they said yes. I didn’t drink alcohol during the show but as soon as I got back to McCormick Place I pulled one out of the fridge and it was awesome. Drank Zombie Dust and Oberon those nights after the shows.

Sammy Smiths.
Ice cold and $5 as you exited the venue. They were awesome then, but a few years ago I bought some and they pretty much sucked compared to what we are drinking now.

Funny, I saw Jai Alai Fronton in Bolo’s message and knew it didn’t mean Happy New Years, and just figured he was being a prankster. Never clued in that it was a clue.

Beer and small venues:
Anyone remember the band Box Set in the 90’s? One of the members, Jeff Pehrson, later was a backup singer in Furthur.
I saw Box Set play at Great Basin brewing in Sparks, NV in the late 90’s.

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Never drank OE800.
But have had my share of Mickey’s Big Mouths.

In 89 Schlitz (blue bull on label) came out with Red Bull (not the energy drink). Schlitz Red Bull was a higher alcohol version of the blue bull. You had to choke down about 1/3 of the bottle before the alcohol started to take effect and made you forget how bad it tasted.

But then we found Midnight Dragon, $0.99/40 oz.....
Wow, that stuff could take you places.

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I used to drink Micky's Big Mouth when I was 16, before I knew better. I woke up one morning and about six hours of the night before had been magically erased.. what a bad feeling. Back then.. Heineken, Becks and Bass Ale were as good as you could get where I lived. At any price. Good beer was simply not available, nor was good coffee, good weed.. well I digress.

I drink less beer now because it adds lbs too easily, still.. it is lower alcohol so it's good when I don't want to wake up with a headache. More red wine (good red wine) and unfortunately I have acquired a taste for really good tequila (extra anejo) and on rare occasions really good bourbons and every now and again good scotch. I really try to steer clear of liquor, but hey.. I'm human.

I wish I drank less.. so far this year I am doing amazing well with restraint. There are a couple alternative items which I dare not mention or they will delete my posts again that are safer, non addictive and a hell of a lot less damaging to your body and mind. Unfortunately I am often too busy to get zonked out so they are fewer and farther between. Geeze.. I am not a fan of censorship, you end up masking what you say and write.

Over and out.. have a great weekend all. Dipping my big toe back into 1977.. halfway through the June Winterland run. Man, there has been a lot of 77 released. 77 used to be my favorite year. I don't know.. 1977 is sort of like dating a supermodel.. it's great for a while but eventually you crave something that's imperfectly brilliant in it's own way, the '85 discussion is a perfect example, I might substitute '74 or '68. I have a high opinion of 1985, my opinion mirrors Angry Jack and Oroborous'.

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I've actually largely given up beer, my preferred drink being fine whisky in the winter and vodka in the summer. However, certain situations still call for beer. Living in Colorado, the beer capital of the world, one has been overwhelmed with good fortune for decades now as the beer gods have been smiling down upon our plethora of outstanding craft breweries and their tasting rooms.

I happened upon a media credential for the GABF (that's Great American Beer Festival, to the uninitiated) for the better part of ten years until 2018, which I took off, and 2019 which I attended as a civilian. We got into all the VIP events, tastings, after hours affairs, brunches and - most importantly - every session, four in all. Midway through day two, it took a little taste of the Peruvian just to keep powering through it all. Ah, those were heady times...

There are so many beers in so many styles, the world of beer has become almost overwhelming. It's like wine now, where you have food pairings. After numerous sessions of focusing on fruit beers, or medal winners only, or regional favorites, I've come to the realization that my preferred beers are Short Line Lagers.

That is, any big beer (8% or above only, please) that one can walk right up to and sample a pour. At the end of the day, those beers are as good as any. It's all subjective anyway.

Cheers!

When I started drinking at 15 premium beer included the brands Jim mentioned as well as Michelob. Then there was Bud and Miller (Coors was still only on the other side of the Mississippi (Half-Step)). Then there was the crap beer like Pfeifer, Weidemann, Goebel, PBR, Milwaukee’s Best, etc. That’s what you can afford at that age.
When I was 17 Stroh’s came out with 15- and 30-packs, but kept the price the same as 12- and 24-packs. Woo Hoo! I started drinking Stroh’s.
When I was finally 21 the former ‘premium’ and import beer had dropped in price, LowenBrau was now $2.99/6-pack, Michelob was around the same price. Drank those for a while, usually the dark versions, then drank Killian’s Red for a while, then Bell’s appeared in the stores and at the bar I frequented and I made the shift to microbrew ales.

Mmmmmm........beer

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Has fallen out of the rotation since I’ve aged. Never got into the microbrew craze, but do enjoy a cold lager in the summer. Mostly wine and the occasional mixed drink these days. I’ve never been good at regulating my liquor, so I usually wind up in the ditch. To be avoided on most occasions for me.

Mickey’s big mouth brings back memories. Most of the other brands as well. One notable omission is OV splits. They came in a case, which was essentially a 12 pack. Dump in a bag of ice and you had a self-contained cooler. Nothing better in the summer. They never get warm because it only took two swigs to finish one.

No mention of beer balls? Matts was a staple. Coors followed suit for a while until both disappeared.

Matts was another upstate New York brewery, like Genesee, that got smart and decided to brew a better brand. Saranac.

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Don’t forget St Pauli Girl back in the day.....Lowenbrau, lol, there’s a blast from the past! Did you ever have the Dark?

CUTTING BACK; back when I was still playing I would start out with one 16 oz glass of Sailor Jerry and Pepsi, then usually 4 or 5 beers over the course of the night. If I was at home maybe 2 , then beer. Felt good but still safe and functional. Now, no soda at all, very rarely Hard booze, maybe a Bayleys on Christmas, Beer only on weekends, and trying to cut back on that a tad too.....at this stage of the game I’m starting to really dig just drinking water!.....of course my green medicine helps make all that possible. Been a hardcore beer fiend since I was a lad, but now, more and more, enjoy moderation etc. I’ve found that Glen Fry’s advice works well. He said the idea is to feel good not bad, so when you go to a party, drink the first 2 sorta quick, then make the 3rd one last and maintain that light buzz...kinda like we used to do with the “veggies” back in the day.lol
But right now it’s friday and I’m in love again, so a, heh, guys gotta have at least one night to get down on it, no?
So here’s to another frosty, tasty Anchor Xmass and salute to all my Dead friends!
Now if I could only get this #$&$#$ Server to play....

EDIT; Angry Jack, or Rolling Rock Splits, there’s so Summer memories, but yes, OV were the best!

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If you ever make to MN, Summit Brewery has been pumping out awesome micro beers since the mid to late 80s. I am sure Deadheadbrewer would agree? Their flagship Summit Extra Pal Ale is one of the best.
Have some Stella midnight lager on tap for tonight.

Enjoy fellas.

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Turned an empty Coors ball into a bong and called it the hempisphere.

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spoetzl brewery -shiner texas
abita brewing - covington louisiana

remember
pearl
bud dry
steele reserve
if its one thing frank hates its warm beer
candy colored clowns

You are correct. Rolling Rock had their own version. For some reason we referred to them as ponies, not splits. OV was preferred, but Rolling Rock did just fine as needed. Back in college a local bar would sell you two tacos and a Rolling Rock for $3. I went back a year ago and no more tacos or Rolling Rock. Replaced by PBR.

Just returned home from a late lacrosse game. Six degrees outside. So, I built a fire and cracked open a leftover Troegs Hopback Amber from Christmas. Good stuff.

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Remember the tshirt for Matt's beer balls. It was a cartoon guy with beer ball balls.

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I've always said that if I had to limit myself to drinking but one beer flavor for the rest of my life, then I would choose Summit Extra Pale Ale. You're so right--Summit has been making amazing beer for over two decades here in the Upper Midwest. Lately I've fallen for Utepils Brewing as well; everything they make is fantastic.

I'm not a hop-head; I prefer German lagers, British Bitters, Porters, and Stouts. That's kind of what Utepils brews, which is part of why I love that place.

If I WERE a robot, then how would I know what beer tastes like, Mr. CAPTCHA?!

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I haven't had an alcoholic drink since 2010, although I drank plenty in the 35 years leading up to that year. It is, after all, the national drug in Britain. Unfortunately. My friends now might have a glass of wine when we go out for a meal, but it is usually just the one. The only time I come across people drinking a lot is at gigs, and the people who do so always seem a bit of a nuisance to me. Talking during the quiet parts of the show and bumping into people. It also can be a bit risky going out at on your own at night, as there is a fair bit of drunken violence in British towns.

Typical that of all the fascinating drugs available, alcohol is the one legalised for mass consumption. The harm it causes people in this country is astronomical.

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...I thought of you before I posted that, hoping you would enjoy it old friend! I have more but I don’t think I can post it here. Send me a PM 🙏❤️🤠💀🌹

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...Ithe only time I have a beer now a days is when I’m eating sushi or Japanese food with a Nice Ice Cold ‘Sapporo’ to wash it down lmao ....🙏❤️😎💀🌹

Went from snow, to freezing rain, to rain here.
Supposed to rain most of the day and then temps drop with high of 26 Sunday and Monday.
3-day MLK weekend. I stocked up at the grocery store yesterday in preparation of weather and icy roads. Hope the power doesn’t go out.
Have 5 cases of beer consisting of mixed brands and varieties in the collection (2 cases are various barrel aged stouts that are aging, so I won’t be pounding those, but will have 1 or 3).
Going to fire up the GOGD and get some projects done inside the house.

DaP 33 in the mailbox next weekend?
That would be nice, but it’s questionable whether that warehouse can actually get the job done.

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PBRs, schlitz, hamms and good ol Milwaukee's beast

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lime-a-rita and hard seltzer suicide

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“Man, there has been a lot of 77 released. 77 used to be my favorite year. I don't know.. 1977 is sort of like dating a supermodel.. it's great for a while but eventually you crave something that's imperfectly brilliant in it's own way, the '85 discussion is a perfect example, I might substitute '74 or '68. I have a high opinion of 1985...”

Jim, once again you’ve done it! That’s the best description of 77 I’ve ever heard and is partially why 77 is not my favorite year. Too clean, yaddy, yaddy, yada...don’t get me wrong, definitely should be considered in the mix for an objective consideration of an overall top year list, just not this weirdos list😀

DEADTONY; dude, your hardcore...sounds like a stomach ache, lol

CARLO; you crack me up, that sounds like one hell of a shirt...I’ll need to research that.

DAVEROCK; spot on commentary as usual...just wondering, back when you did walk the boards, what was your poison of choice, G&T, the British National beverage, or is that just yankee stereotype?

DEADVIKES/BREWER; not sure why, but just reading or saying Summit Extra Pale Ale gives me some weird atavistic stirring....the can being a deep sorta pine green, holding some deep promise of say late May or early June when it’s starting to (hopefully) warm up, but there’s still a nice chill to the air from the snow still on the peaks.....I swear I can taste it! We’ll have to hunt that one down.
Brewer, I’m with you, I’m not a hop head, there are many I enjoy, but my preference is Ales, Porters and Stouts. That Utepils sounds beery interesting!
Speaking of beers/preferences, as a brewer, I’m curious of your opinion? To me it seems like the trends have really leaned hard toward hops, hops, hops, and fruity this and that, farmhouse, saison, etc, which is fine, except that it seems like the old stalwart Ales, Stouts and Porters have been somewhat forgotten? Or is that just old curmudgeon me? Damn kids, get off my lawn, and take that double, Super hopped, hint of cucumber, with a touch of mint, filtered through coffee, barrel aged in watermelon soaked casks, then cold filtered on the third full moon of the year...

Kid; thanks for all the good tips over the years, and for consistently cracking me up....man sounds like you’ve been a connoisseur of all things swill back in the day just like us, LOL. You’ve brought back some memories of beers/times long forgotten, which is probably good😉 I feel like if we’d known each other back then we’d have definitely been trouble, and I mean that in a good way!

Buenos Dead days Mi Amigos!

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Oroborous….G and T tends to be popular with people who have a more sophisticated palette than me. I used to like the occasional gallon of beer.

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Hey Now! b.c.boot from No. Cal. here.
I don’t post a lot to the dead.net forums, occasionally I will, but I Do like to lurk here. You all have “tapped” into something I am super passionate about, BEER.
Currently, I am excited to drink beers from Modern Times Beer out of San Diego.
However, the Russian River Brewing Co out of Santa Rosa/Windsor CA is like a mythical beast that you have to hunt for if you don’t live in the region. Their double IPA “Pliny the Elder” is well worth the hunt, and folks from all over make a pilgrimage to Santa Rosa/Windsor once a year on the first Friday of February when the Brewery taps their “Pliny the Younger” an epic Triple IPA.
My current favorite joint to visit for a taste of something new is owned by a fellow Dead Head in Arcata, CA. His place is called Dead Reckoning Tavern and features 40 or so taps plus a bottle room called The Cellar, they cater to, “the craft beer, small batch, beer lover.”

“Keep your libraries, your penal institutions, your insane asylums… give me beer. You think Man needs rule, he needs beer. The world does not need morals, it needs beer… The souls of men have been fed with indigestibles, but the soul could make use of beer.” - Henry Miller

“Ah, beer, the cause of and the solution to all of life’s problems” - Homer Simpson

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Just installed an iflash quad into my 5th gen iPod. Replaced the 60 GB spinning hard drive with 4x256 GB SDXC memory cards. And a new 1300 mAh battery.
Total available storage is 953 GB.
Will use lossless ALAC files.

I have other music players (iBasso DX80, and DX120) that have slots for SDXC cards, but they don’t play music through the USB port. The iPod will play music through the USB port, so I can use it in my car and have lossless and gapless playback. My car will play from a flash drive but only lossy mp3 files and with gaps between songs. The iPod upgrade will be a game changer in the car.

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Well, somehow the IPA craze has not gotten hold of my heart here in Germany. As you might know, we are subject to the "Reinheitsgebot" (German purity law) here in Germany, so traditional German beer can only contain very few basic ingredients. However, German brewers have now started to experiment with all kinds of flavours, so we can get IPAs etc. here as well. However, my favourite beer is a classic one from a small brewery. Its name is Leinburger Helles (lager), Leinburger Senator Dunkles (dark beer) or Leinburger Jubiläumsbier 1617 (special edition, and yes, that is the year the brewery was founded). So, if you ever happen to come to a village in Franconia, Germany, called Leinburg, have one of these. I assume the people of Leinburg have never heard of a group called the Grateful Dead, but anyway, their beer is okay.
Last week I was listening to 10/27/90, Le Zenith, Paris, on my way to school. The sun was comin' up while "Space" was slowly transcending into "Playing In The Band". A magical moment. That's what it is all about for me. Exactly the right music at the right time.

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I wish this beer topic had come up a few months ago. We recently traveled to Bavaria and spent some time in nearby Regensburg. Sampled quite a few local brews. All were fantastic. Lagers are my favorite. We avoided most of the larger hofbrauhauses as they seemed more like keg parties for adult tourists.

Pliny the Elder was brought up. It’s a beer I hear recommended very often. Just curious about whether or not it is worth tracking down. Philly is one of the few places on the east coast where it seems to be available.

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Pliny the Elder is like 3/1/69, it's a real winner.

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My experience with beer:

Drunk in the bathroom
Tell me whaduya see
Beer hacks
Beer hacks
Lookin back at me

Tis only the truth

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Hey Now Rusty String-

Thanks for the post on German Bier. So happens there is microbrewery here in KC called KCBier Co which specializes in the exact style of brews you mention. From their website, here is a list of year round brews:
“Dunkel, Hefeweizen, Helles and Pils are available in bottles and on draught year-round”....here’s a link to more info about their beers and brewing methods which supposedly imitate traditional German methods.

https://kcbier.com/our-bier/

The Dunkel reminds me a lot of October Fest which I can drink modestly if the weather is right. The Helles is also pretty good, but I’ll bet you a Deutsche Mark that you all brew it better than we do!

Cheers 🍻

KCJ

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Well I woke up Sunday morning
With no way to hold my head that didn't hurt
And the beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad
So I had one more for desert...

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Then I fumbled through my closet
For my clothes
And found my cleanest dirty shirt

Great song, great man.

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