Dave’s Picks Volume 33: Evans Field House, N. Illinois University, Dekalb, IL 10/29/77

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January 22, 2020 - 9:18am

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clayv

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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January 27, 2020 - 10:10am

#621

Colin Gould

Joined:
September 15, 2009

Acid Mothers Temple

My CD collection needs to be indexed again so I’m not sure how many AMT releases I have. I certainly have more than 50. I’d guess that the only band I have more by is the GD.

Dave Rock
There is at least one more CD that has Daevid Allen on ‘Live in Nagoya’ by Acid Mothers Gong. I like their amusing album title e.g. ‘Do androids dream of electric tapirs’ or ‘Starless and bible black sabbath’.
Kawabata Makoto is a great guitarist.
January 27, 2020 - 10:03am

#622

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Not sold out yet

We may be at 77 saturation level. As Jim said, some people get bored of their supermodel girlfriend and want something that is imperfectly brilliant.

Combine that with the fact that Rhino can no longer be trusted to actually deliver what you paid for and some people may be resistant to buy a 77 show they may never have heard of.

I expect a faster sell out for DaP 34, unless PNW Box has created a 74 saturation also.

Dave may need to pick an 80’s show for the third release, something from an unsaturated year.
January 27, 2020 - 9:59am

#623

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Vinyl, sell out, and the rapist

SELL OUT; I think if they initially sold all but a few hundred of the run that’d be perfect. Not too much extra inventory, but enough that folks could grab one down the road if need be. Also helps keep the resale price down, which also may help some head later on....

THE RAPIST; it’s a shame about the rest of the folks, and I don’t want to talk I’ll of the dead, but I live in the town where he was being prosecuted, and well “ I know a little something you won’t ever know” .....let’s just say that just because he didn’t get convicted doesn’t mean he wasn’t guilty....no means no, even if the say yes at first, and that’s all I’m going to say about that. The only reason I’m bringing it up is because it’s going to be hard watching all the praise and media hype about someone like that....
So what happens then when OJ dies?

VINYL: so since my server is off to its maker for some tweaks and updates, It got me to get the table set up finally.
Thus I’ve been listening to some old records, many that I don’t have on disc. Big time bummed though as I was looking for Wake of the Flood and American Beauty but can’t find them. I used to have everything “official” up to Go to Heaven except Long Strange trip. Couldn’t find 2112 or the first live Rush album either. Those I might of traded or sold decades ago, but I don’t think so cause I still have Farewell to Kings.....so I spun up that, a bunch of Dead, Jimmy Cliff Give Thanks, Soulive Rubber Soul, some macca, Kansas, Bromberg and some Hendrix I haven’t heard in decades; Midnight Lightning, soundtrack from the movie Jimi Hendrix, and Band of Gypsies. Forgot how good some of that was!
Also listened to Ready or Not some more, and Bless it’s pointed little head. New stuff that I’m getting used to.
So stoked for new release but bummed my initial listen won’t be via the mighty Ref 3 😟
The good news is when I get the server back I’m getting a emm labs Dac2X V2 which is a huge upgrade! Woo-hoo...

EDIT; PM me if any one needs a sweet DAC? I need to sell my Wired 4 Sound DAC 2. No I do not have the Dsd upgrades but it’s in mint condition....
January 27, 2020 - 9:55am

#624

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Hey Green Mtn Dead, welcome

I'm assuming that you're in Vermont, or were at some point. I did a cool backpack through the Greens in 1973, between Watkins Glen (7-27-73 and 7-28-73) and Roosevelt Stadium (7-31-73 and 8-1-73) and the fall shows at Nassau Coliseum (oh yeah, plus returning to school)... Moved on to the White Mtns and the Adirondacks, all in 3 weeks, hitch-hiking all the way. I turned 16 late that summer, with a few four-way blotters in my pocket...

Enough nostalgia! To your question, yes it seems that, at this point, Dave is unloading some so-so shows in the 3rd pick of the year. I do not like that approach. Rather than suggesting another 10 years of Dave's Picks (I think he has stated 20 freakin' years = his retirement) -- that's 40+ shows -- why not state that we're looking at a 10-year timeframe for the series, even the vault output?

Say two shows per year get released as RSD releases and/or studio album/companion live discs. Add six shows for an annual box. That's 48-50 shows over the next decade. I can name 20-30 classic or peak run shows that should come out and there's an equal number of under-hyped goodies that others could suggest. Sure, I'd like to hear many of the mere ~75 shows I attended, 1972-1992, but there's no need to dribble out the hum-drum, slack shows to leaven the gems.

I understand they have another 1,000 shows in the vault. So what? Why not keep the vault output focused on the very cream of the crop? And call it good within the third decade of the 21st century?

If the remaining band members and/or their heirs want to extend the legacy, then just reissue the very cornerstone recordings for future fans. (We can all cream over which ones qualify!)

Also, personally, I don't care for filler. Either put out a show or a compendium of partial shows, but don't stick a few random tracks onto a "short" Dave's Picks disc. The fact that these discs can hold 80 minutes is meaningless to me. Break up a show to fit properly on (3) discs and move on! Obviously, I do not suspect my view is anything like universally held.

That is all for now. I really look forward to the incoming Dekalb show, though I'm sated on '77, Dekalb was an early cassette blow-out we all got ~1980. It's a stone rocker.

To summarize, if Dave throws me 3 of 4 hot DPs and one so-so per year, I'm still an avid subscriber.
January 27, 2020 - 9:20am

#625

stoltzfus

Joined:
January 13, 2010

not selling out

looks like the upper limit has been reached

also shipping issues make some hesitant

well, at least there won't be any complaining about being shut out.

and don't worry...the GD organization is still solvent.

watching a show with my better half, "Grace and Frankie". On a recent episode, there was a plot line of a silent auction. One of the items up for bid was Jerry Garcia's sneakers.

The music over the end credits was Eyes of the World from WotF album.
January 27, 2020 - 9:18am

#626

stoltzfus

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Acid Mothers Temple

I have two of their discs

goooooood stuff
January 27, 2020 - 9:15am

#627

Green Mtn Dead

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Lack of Sell Out....

Mostly just a reader on this board (so thanks to all the other contributors for providing me good reading on my daily commute)," but a topic for the group to discuss.... Does that lack of sellout of 33 mean that Dave will need to re-examine the 3rd release of the year? Think we'll all agree that the 3rd release over the past couple of years haven't been "just exactly perfect" - thinking Vol 31 Uptown in Chicago (12/3/79) and Vol 27 Boise (9/2/83).

Many have voiced their opinions that the 3rd release of the annual subscriptions have been more of a "filler" release and not "checking the box" for the vast majority of listeners. Without the incentive of the annual bonus disc, I could see a situation where folks could switch to an a-la-carte purchasing approach if they know they will be able to purchase releases once the show is a known item.

I can see Dave and powers that be, thinking long and hard about this and either raising the quality of the 3rd release or maybe even lowering the number back to 20,000.

Trust me - I love the 22,000 number as it allows everybody the ability to purchase and avoids the excessive resell prices on eBay (or sometimes even on this site - yes, you know who you are and we're not "blind" to the fact of what you are doing).

So anyway, just wanted to put out a topic and get folks' view on this.

Thanks
January 27, 2020 - 3:53am

#628

daverock

Joined:
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Acid Mothers Temple

I saw them too once, supporting Gong about 20 years ago. Ferocious. The only cds I got by them are called "Absolutely Freak Out (Zap Your Mind!!), and "Acid Motherhood", made with the late great Daevid Allen.
January 26, 2020 - 7:38pm

#629

Mr. Ones

Joined:
July 25, 2017

World has gone crazy...

...The only thing that makes sense anymore is music!! Anybody check out the Elton Live From Moscow 2-cd set that came out Friday, I found very enjoyable for the most part. My only real complaint is that a couple of the songs go on WAY too long. But overall. a nice step back to 40 years ago.
January 26, 2020 - 6:23pm

#630

stoltzfus

Joined:
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6 9 77

SHAZAM!!!

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Rolling Stones tour

This week an electronic billboard on my commute home has been showing the Stones lips and tongue logo and the words “miss you”.
So I looked into it.

https://www.jambase.com/article/the-rolling-stones-tour-2020

Talk about high ticket prices. They’re the worst offenders.

I saw them once, 1989, maybe I should go again.

May 11, 1977 St. Paul

Back to May 77 but the first box. I find myself for some reason listening to these more than GSTL box... I like the design of the first box so much more than GSTL, which made me feel I was pulling out the video discs (pre-dated beta and vhs)... i know someone spoke about space versus jam, the other day, there is a space label between Uncle John's Band and Wharf Rat instead of Jam.. bob t

Ticket prices....

....Ween is coming to sin city in March. $74 including fees and $5 to mail an actual ticket to my house (because I'm old and like physical products). Not bad and a no brainer.

Dap 33

Disk 3 is smoking. Estimated>eyes>space>st.stephen.

Firing up DeKalbs third disc....

....never got this one in my tape collecting daze. Keith sounds really good.
Bob T' s comment of GSTL's video disc / laser disc comparison hit home with me. I member berry those. I also member berry they were over $100 back in 1981. Being able to watch movies at home was revolutionary, and very expensive. Dad didn't pony up for a player, but he did get a VHS. Chunky buttons and all. Remote connected by a five foot cord. Roots was my first experience in that medium.

Laser disks

I remember those disks. I think they were housed in a way just like albums in album covers. You put the whole disk in the player then pull out the empty holder till the movie was over then place the holder back into the machine and the disk automatically returned to the holder so you never touched the disk at all.

Laser discs delivery method....

....you are on point Carlo. The first time I saw one, my 13 year old mind was blown. Then I went back to my Atari 2600 because that was mind blowing as well.
Did I mention how good Keith sounds in DeKalb? Apparently a warm up for burning a Holiday Inn bed the next morning. He was on fire!!
"I'm not a piano player, but I spent last night at a Holiday Inn."

Rolling Stones Tour

Icecrmcnkd...what price experience ? I saw then numerous times between 1973 and 2006, and they always seemed expensive. But they were always worth it.

In fact generally, I can't remember ever buying a ticket and feeling sorry that I coughed up so much for the ticket. There are quite a few I regret not going to though. We pass this way but once. I think.

Art Work

hey does anyone possibly might have scanned art work for this Dave's Picks to share ? for whatever reason the admin from album art exchange is blocking people with VPN's addresses and what not. or people he is randomly deeming to be hackers? or so i've read on his twitter site.

Another Year, Another Missing Disc

Hi Everyone,

Posting here again because I think I'm at the end of my rope with this. I've still not received Vol. 32, and now we're into 2020 and Vol. 33 is nowhere to be found. I don't understand why they can't include tracking numbers for shipments (especially international ones) - I thought these were generated automatically.

I've written to Marye (she's great!) and she's helped in getting the Dr. to reply - but time there's just been radio silence on these issues. The lack of efficient customer service is really getting to be too much.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Matt in China

Vanity plates

First - sorry to everybody still waiting on 33 (or 32 and other items for that matter).

But that aside.... driving in this morning and was passed by a car with a giant Stealie on the window. Next noticed the plate - AMDEW. Given the nasty wintery mix we’re having this morning it should have been CLDRN&SNW.

Who’s got some cool plates? Here in Mass can only do six characters and can’t start with numbers so limits the outcome a little.

Enjoy and good luck for those waiting for packages

Re: May '77 Box 1

Bob, I'm with you on the first May 77 box set. It's probably simply a function of having five vs. four shows.. but there were surprises there for me. I'm going to drift away from '77 for a while, but I probably will be back in May for at least a few shows.

I would like to see them mix it up a little after '74. Something further off the beaten path.

Sorry to hear Chinamatt..

Connected Remote

VGuy for the win - a connected remote control for your VHS??? WOW

We had a VHS player that we got on Christmas as a family in like 1980-something. I vividly recall my dad being like "He's our first family movie we're going to watch on our new VCR (on Christmas Day No Less): RAMBO!" Ha. But we never had an actual connected remote; which seems to almost defeats its purpose...almost.

Glad folks are enjoying their spins on 33. Book-ended by burning beds, that explains the hot show here...heh.

Be Well People and travel safely to those around Beantown today.
Sixtus

SHAKE IT SHAKE IT SUGAREE

JUST DONT TELL EM YOU KNOW ME

2.6.89

@GreenMtnDead...

I worked at a friend's diner in Lenox for about six months in '98...driving down the Mass Turnpike one day I saw a car with a "Even Bobby Fans Need Love" bumper sticker drive by me...made me laugh out loud...

Dave's 33 Cover

Hey Kyle: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl… (scroll down to #33)

Off topic w/ Stones tix

Well, as much as I love the Stones (been going to shows since 1969), I think I'll be passing this time around...the closest gig is in San Diego which will be just a bit too much to drive from No AZ...besides I had such a blast last August at their Phoenix area show I can live off of it...they do an advanced ticket sale for what is called "Lucky Dip" seats...you buy very cheap tickets and you don't know where you're sitting until you pick up your tickets at the will call window the day of the show...the last gig I bought two for $25 each...since nosebleeds were $75 I figured no matter where the seats were I was coming out ahead...come day of the show we went to the will call window...I gave the ticket agent my ID and order number and he had me stick my arm into the window so he could put a wristband on me with an additional wristband with a ticket for the Stage Pit right in front of Keith...we both just about fainted (it was a 112 degrees after all) and made our way in...was on my feet for nearly 5 hours but it was worth it...great show, great time...those pit passes by the way went for $450...

Stones tix on sale 2/14

The billboard told me so.

VHS and the "wire"

our first vhs was rented because they were like 700 bucks to buy. Me and a buddy split the rental cost. We were looking to tape all the monty pythons that were on pbs at the time. Even the damn tapes were expensive, we taped every thing in 6 hour mode to save tape! And yes, it had a 'wired' remote.

VCRs

We didn’t have one, but you could rent them at the supermarket. They came in a metal case that we were able to modify to get access to the one, mono audio out. We’d use a Y splitter and hook up to the stereo and watch The Dead movie or what other limited Concert movies we could get. It’s funny now, but back then that was sorta high tech!
Guess I was destined for AV?

KCJ: congrats on the win, but no comment on “the ensemble?

The Wire and Cassettes

Reading the VCR w/ wired remotes (is it really a remote at all if it's wired?), reminds of early tape trading.

I got some of my better tapes early on taping the FM broadcasts of New Years shows, taping David Gan's Grateful Dead Hour in addition to sending friends off with boxes of 10 cassettes at a time. That was high end technology back in the day.. much like the wired VHS remotes of the same day.

We've come a long way. I still think back with amazement when One From the Vault was announced and soon of the heels came Dicks Picks 1. Heaven.. like that scene in 2001 when they plan the theme song and show the plaque in the background. The next plaque came when BTree hit followed by Archive.org.

Charlie Miller should be a Medal of Honor recipient. Man, we've come a long way.
Now back to regularly scheduled drumz and space. I think I am going to flip flop between late 60's and mid to late 80's this week.. just to keep my ADHD in check.

VGUY72 - Ween...

...will not disappoint! Looking forward to seeing them again in my hometown on 4/4. I haven't seen them live since 2000 so really looking forward to it.

D&C

Looks like tour dates are final. Starts in Boulder at Folsom Field on July 10th, ends just about a month later at Fenway Park, Boston on August 8th. No surprises here except that there are no West Coast shows announced.. late summer / early fall for that?

Cool EP

Had a chance to give this at least a semi-distracted listen and a half so far. Finishing up a second listen, spinning disc 3 now, and that is a cool Estimated Prophet, may be one of my favorite versions, for the moment at least. That Eyes is no slouch either. The whole show has a nice flow to it, glad to have it.

The Ensemble

Sorry Oro...loved it man, just wasn’t sure how to add to it. Don’t worry though...took notes and already been shopping for some Italian leather boots and a pink paisley vest. I already have a hat that will work and plenty of GD T-shirt’s. Maybe some nice cutoff Jorts would complete it 🤔

On that note let’s cut to the Chiefs parade....some folks up in tree tops, just lookin for their...oh fuck...ouch!!!!

https://twitter.com/cantdeal_/status/1225094427217141761?s=21

Don’t worry, I’m Ok!

Chiefs parade

...just so that wasn’t you trying to drive in the parade, lol 😉

https://www.kmbc.com/article/charges-filed-against-42-year-old-kck-man-…

Connected remote

I think I have you all beat. Our vcr had a connected remote too. But it was only one slide switch to pause the movie. That's it. Ha

Wasn’t Me

I was not the driver but I had a front row seat. I reserved a hotel room down there last Thursday so we could get up early and walk a couple blocks to get a spot. We were directly across from the Sprint Center in a primo spot at the front of the rail. Saw the car speed down Grand 10 yards from us. The tires were already spike by that point and you could smell the burning rubber. About 10 cop cars sped after them and finally rammed them before they could plow into anyone. Miracle that no one was injured! Really crazy to see....later got to see the Super Bowl Trophy held up right in front of me. It was an awesome day.

Congrats to niners fans on a great season as well!

We did here some funny rumors about the guys driving the car. One said that the car had a Raiders bumper sticker. Another meme with a picture of the culprits “Bill Belichek and Tom Brady in full game day regalia”

The D&C dates are the only ones they are playing in 2020....

....and zero West Coast shows. Pardon my French, but that's kind of fucked up. Oh well. Guess I saved myself $200. Bring on Ween!!! Saw them a couple of years ago and had a grand time.

Burning Tires

It was me.. I'm blaming it on a glitch with my GPS.

With two good listens in

I'm thinking this show reminds me a lot of 4/2/73 from the Gahden. Its strength lies in consistently solid versions of song after song rather than one singular epic jam. Its been great to listen to here at work, jaunty and upbeat, whereas sometimes really spacey Dark Stars are lost on me when I can't zone out properly.

Also: PSA tonight on the Relix Youtube channel there is a free webcast of Voodoo Dead. New Orleans funk meets the Dead songbook. Where has this been all my life ?

Rogue

I agree with you. That was my first thought on the dap 33 sounding similar to 4/2/73. Even w/o an estimated.

Your GPS did it???

JimInMD, I'll need some instructions, cuz this goddam GPS I bought just will not produce meth and cocaine!

How do you dial that up? It's not like I haven't been trying....

Yer frend, Chief Smoking Rubber

Six point brewery Brooklyn N.Y.

Resin IIPA- 9.1% alc. 103 IBU. actually really good brew. Tall thin cans too. Smells like a pine tree in a can.

Re: GPS

Is that what they charged me with?
Crap.
Don't tell mom.

DaP 33 Eyes

✋ hi folks! Did anyone notice something fishy during EOTW at the 5:31 mark? Perhaps it's a chunk of tape missing. I don't really mind, it's just a curiosity.

Erikandjenn

I heard that too. Good ears on eyes. Strange but subtle.

Voodoo Livestream - Just in time for Marti Gras

Relix free livestream of Voodoo Dead. I always liked Steve Kimock, great lineup. Also Jeff Chimenti is a keyboard god.

Rocking shakedown.. into a soulful and Bluesy Sugaree now. Check it out. Bill it to my account.

https://relix.com/live/livestream-20200206-voodoo-dead/

p.s. don't drink milk on schoolnights. oh, the horror.

but seriously these guys are playing really good. ...anyone out there that likes to party and has not been to Marti Gras? One word.. JazzFest. Oh.. some qualifying information, food = great, cops = bad. Music = heaven-sent.

Voodoo Dead

Hell yeah. Listen to Jim, he's a wise and thoughtful dude. Put your internet machine on that link and watch these guys.

After Sugaree they did a long Funky Meters jam and HOLY FUCKING SHIT OPHELIA WHERE HAVE YOU GONE ?

Erik and Jenn

Scroll back through the posts on the DaP 32 page.
Prior to the creation of the DaP 33 page someone (I don’t remember who) asked about how the splice that was on the cassette tapes would be handled for this release.

It appears that you have found the first hint.

Voodoo Dead gig....

....is also on YouTube. And yes. Been a fan of Kimock since the Zero days.

This Bertha Kicks Ass

DeKalb might just be my favorite Bertha. Never heard it sounding better either.

Speaking of eyes of the world....

....there it is.

Bertha

In the immortal words of Oroborous, a Bobbie Dazzler. I have a few favorites, one being Englishtown. This one is good.. a great show, and very glad it FINALLY came out.

Love the Eyes of the World that's blasting on my big screen right now. When it comes to GDead cover bands.. you really need two lead guitarists. Just my opinion. More dead = Good.

RE: Vanity Plates

MU-TRON

Voodoo Dead

After Midnight. Slow and funky. The way that God and JJ Cale intended it to be. So good.

Anatomy of a jam....

....amarguitar has a pretty cool YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/nRN5nIm8cTs
....yeah. it's Phish based, but the dude knows his shit. He puts out pretty awesome docs. At least Phish is playing the West coast this summer. Sorry. Some salt over here.

Dead&Co West Coast

I would be surprised if they don't do a little redux tour towards the end of the year. I mean.. I think the last E Coast New Years show was in 1969 or something.

I would be disappointed if they didn't do a West Coast annex.
Plus, I want to go to the Gorge.

Skulltrip

Good to see you. Hope you are well!

Bertha, yes, this one rocks!

Check out the Dead YouTube video release of the week from July 1990. A glimpse into future releases?

Jeff Smith

Yo! Jeff Smith! I got the artwork downloaded for Dave's 33 from in your drop box, thanks! greatly appreciated! i already listened to this on a bootleg and it was a great sounding boot from charlie miller. i'm looking foward to listen to a proper remaster soon. i still need to listen to the Giants Stadium Box set. yeah I'm quite behind for sure

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