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Found Cats and Fiddle on archive and have started downloading. And just because I'm and idiot, found a 300 song collection of old Russians songs on 78's. Downloaded and no I don't speak Russian!

Funny thing about the name Cats and Fiddle. I grew up in a beach community in Jersey. When I was young there was a bar on the beach called "the cat and the Fiddle". Link below will take you to a page about said bar.

http://aberdeennjlife.blogspot.com/2014/06/history-cat-n-fiddle-cliffwo…

Ironically a term used to deride the Dead's music, "noodling", was coined to describe Mozart himself, who may have been the most brilliant musician of the 18th Century. But his habit of playing solos in different modes was as annoying to some musical purists of his day as they were to those who didn't appreciate Jerry's ability to do the same thing 200 years later.

I'll set aside some money and pick this up just before release date. With PacNW and July '78 still available, I don't see this selling out by the end of September.

Eta: let's not forget Phil and TC's connection to classical and modern classical, or post-modern classical. Jerry once likened Phil's bass playing to acting as if it were a cello weaving counterpoint, rhythms, and lead melodies through the same song.

I think (not know), classical tunes are different based on the interpretation of the conductor. That's what they bring. The musicians are the tools of his trade. If the conductor wants some piece to be louder and more forward, he hires more violinist. His ONLY volume control is more of the same instruments, that's where you get 50 guys in tuxs standing up at the same time to hit the same note. But his 'wall of sound' is the horseshoe shape of the pit. When the 'lead' of the song moves thru the pit you can actually hear the motion. The sound is more than just the notes, it's the movement of the sound in front of you.

The dead seem to be able to control their sound stage to a 3D image that moved. They got big.

What do I know? But one of the very few that had the equipment to make that happen.

....that are 51, including myself. Let's hear it for the class of '86!!!

Happy B-Day. Our crew was at 4/16. Didn't see you? 4/16 Stephen Stills showed up. But for me 4/16 is the GREATEST Looks Like Rain. Jerry tears the shit out of the end,,,, like raindrops falling on you and Bobby gives some of his best screams.

"can't take no more fuckin rain today"

Here for your birthday, my soundboard copy of Looks Like Rain

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5g0w1db4xkvfyx8/09%20-%20Looks%20Like%20Rain…

Enjoyed the recollection of your first show!

Giant Stadium movie was fun. Vinnie had some bright moments. Bruce was really listening and paying attention. 1991 had some high moments. Talk about tickling those ivories. I really enjoyed August 91 at Shoreline. Grateful Dead (all things/keyboards) why just eat a sandwich when you’re at a smorgasbord .

Ledded

The idea that a classical piece is fixed and sounds the same whoever plays it is simply wrong. Some versions of ‘The Rite of Spring’ by Stravinsky are electrifying and ecstatic, others are pedestrian. I have at least 5 versions of ‘Music for 18 Musicians’ by Steve Reich, they are all different. This is equally true for pre-20th century classical as well.

I am looking forward to the release of another box set in September as well as the GD one. The Another Timbre label is releasing a five CD set of Morton Feldman piano pieces, that should be stunning.

My own musical interests range through folk, country, pop, jazz, free improvisation ( check out the Emanem label), Classical and even the Grateful Dead.

All musical appreciation is subjective. I might recommend some music but I’d never argue that someone is wrong if they don’t like it. There is very little music that doesn’t have some appeal to me but, as The Incredible String Band said, “Music is so much less than what you are”

Look forward to the future, what else is there?

My older sister went off to College in 85 and left behind two tapes in our mother's car. Shakedown Street and a bootleg from 12/30/83. I had no idea what they were but I gave them a try and was hooked immediately. I still have that 83 cassette and played it until 2011. First show was the old Metrodome in June of 86. Dylan, the Dead and Petty. Went to Alpine two days later and that was a crazy experience. 48 now and miss those days when I went to all the shows the boys played in MN and WI from 86-89. Wish I went to more across the country.
Went to the MUATM on Thursday. I have not been a huge post Brent era fan, but thought this show was awesome! Really surprised me how good it was. The Eyes opener just cooks and Jerry is on all night. If you like this band, you will like this show. I am really looking forward to this box!

Is that right, that classical music is always played the same way by different musicians? I can remember buying my uncle, who was a classical music enthusiast,an album-maybe the composer was Mozart-decades ago. I was chastened to realise that he already had the music, but bemused to hear that he hadn't got the version I had bought him. I had assumed that if you bought a symphony on record, one was as good as another. Not so-at least according to my uncle. I have never got into classical music myself, I have to say.

Nice story from LMG about his first Dead show. Also a nod to Terrapin Station the album, and earlier nods on here to the official Dead live albums that came out. I haven't heard most of the Dead's studio/live albums, including Terrapin, for years. The ones I have played most over the last 10 years or so have been Anthem, Live Dead and Blues For Allah.