Grateful Dead

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ps I'd like to hear the rest of this show. This portion was fantastic!

Hey Kids!!
Anybody have access to scans of the individual show folders?
Mahalo!

New box sound is incredible. On that score it is definitely top notch.

In terms of repeats, a lot of the earlier years were pretty repetitive. Less overall material and more new songs, which got repeated a lot. And for '76, there were only 2 tours (41 shows). Another tour might have broadened the menu some. And, no acoustic sets or extended runs with guests (Dylan) or personnel changes.

# of different songs performed by GD year/# of shows):

Over 100 different songs: 1987: 150 songs/85 shows; 1994: 145/84; 1990: 144/74; 1995: 143/47; 1993: 143/81; 1991: 138/77; 1989: 135/73; 1992: 134/55; 1988: 131/80; 1985: 130/71; 1986: 125/46; 1984: 125/64; 1981: 123/82; 1970: 119/142; 1982: 110/61; 1983: 110/66; 1980: 103/86.

Less than 100: 1969: 97/146; 1979: 93/75; 1971: 90/82; 1972: 87/86; 1978: 86/89; 1977: 81/60; 1974: 83/40; 1973: 77/72; 1976: 66/41; 1966: 63/102; 1968: 46/117; 1967: 32/121; 1975: 28/4.

Though I guess one should go ahead and do the different songs/show math if you want a real diversity rank. Though I guess sings per show would have to factor as well.

And, surely, the lack of set lists from the early years depresses the numbers some.

With the caveat we can disagree about what qualifies fir a box, I nixed the ones that do not include full shows (So Many Roads, Golden Road, Beyond Description, GD Movie Soubdtrack.

Year: # Boxes: Shows/ Discs
1969: 1: FW CR: 4+/11 (2005)
1972: 1: E72 CR: 22/73 (2011)
1973: 1: W73 CR: 3+/10 (2008)
1976: 1: J76: 5/15 (2020)
1977: 3: W77 CR 3+/10 (2009); May77 5/14 (2013); GStL 4/11 (2017)
1978: 1: J78 CR: 5/12 (2016)
1989: 2: Warlocks 2/6 (2010); RFK 2/6 (2017)
1990: 2: S90 6+/18 (2012); TOO 8/23 (2014)

Multi Year:
1973/74: PNW CR: 6/19 (2018)
87/89/91: Giants: 5/14 + 1 DVD (2019)
74/78/80/85/87/89-91: ATYC: 10ish/14 (2012).
66-95: 30 Trips: 30/80 + '45 (2015)

What's next? The absence of '68, '70, and '71 boxes is glaring. That would get my vote. 3 issues are: having the tapes, some stuff already released, and the deal for the Betty's may include getting them out first.

October '68 is really interesting. You could do a break-up/make-up box with the Mickey & the Heartbeats shows (no Bob/Pig) on the 8th-10th; the Avalon shows with Bob back (11th-13th). And then the 10/20 & 10/30 shows with everyone back (& Cassidy & Bishop guesting on the 30th). IDK if they have tapes, though.

Don't think they have fall '70 tapes, but 2/11, 2/13, & 2/14 deserve a complete release, though a lot of 2/13 & 2/14 is already out.

Ditto April '71. That closing of Fillmore East run. 5 shows. Could also be issues with permission for the Beach Boys/Duane Allman stuff.

Would love acoustic '80 stuff, but I don't think they have the tapes (as the Warfield release proves). And we just got peak Brent/Bruce with Giants, so I think Alpine or a Meetup video box is probably out.

So I would predict Betty's. Likely from '73-'74. October '74 Winterland has already been released in part. So I would go '73. Either 2/9, 2/15, 2/17 or 5/26, 6/9, 6/10. .

Sorry for legnth.

Dam kids, get off my lawn, and quit having so much fun! Lol
Sounds like the box is a real Boobie Dazzler, glad your all enjoying it so much....I’ve been doing the Spring 90 shuffle instead, hard to believe it’s been 30 years!
Also think I might use this time to try and get ripped the remainder of the huuuggge stack of Discs Dead.net Sandy Claus sent a ways back that I haven’t had time.
Hey, have to find the upside right?

VGUY: thanks for the Betty tip. That ought to be awesome!

CHARLIE: Thanks for the huge laughs! I only rode the bus 2 years for half days to “trade school” Senior year we’d go to regular school in AM then head there via bus on the Thruway to another town/school district etc. (Stoners from like 6 different districts)
Our school had 2 busses. One completely overcrowded with 70s freaks doing pretty much everything because 1) it was late seventies and the inmates were sorta running the asylum, and 2) because we had the coolest bus driver ever: this super hip black dude named Bill. I swear I saw him hit the bong on occasion!
Only like a half dozen quiet/loner/awkward types rode the other bus.
So as part of the journey, we’d have to go through a toll booth. So for some reason they’d always pull into 2 separate parallel booths at the sane time, bad move! Degenerates that we were we would use that opportunity being side by side, especially if there was a line, to have massive food fights, Er a, more accurately us idiots on the rowdy bus would pelt the “good” bus. It was becoming a thing with folks literally bringing old vegetables from there families gardens etc, just crazy stuff, especially if the good bus forgot to shut their windows!
This went on for longer then you’d think, until one day some jack ass thought it’d be funny to get the booth attendant and no it wasn’t toll both Willy!
So next day the circus comes rolling up and don’t ya know the fuggin State troopers are waiting for us....good bus sails right through and we get pulled over and boarded. Holy shit talk about people getting creative about stashing big bongs, various rotten projectiles, you name it, and poor ole Bill was freaking out! (Don’t Blame him!).
Well being the seventies and “kids being kids” and 5 0 really not being that into it thank God, they basically just came through and shook some nap sakes and yelled a little and put on a show to scare us enough to “not jump off the balcony” Er, a, stop throwing shit out the windo etc, oh yeah, and from then on we always pulled up single file 😉

PS: need to blow those hits out the windo Bra! LOL. Ozium helped too, but like you said, who did we think we were kidding!

Check PM

I believe yesterday someone was asking if the BOG, Groovy Music was worth buying - absolutely!

I suck at picking and ranking things, but every full or partial boxed sets I have listened to are among the very best...

Really enjoy the lists, though.

So one of the few Dead.net musical releases I do not have is the FW box. My embarrassing admission is that at the time when it came out, I was more into shows from 72-74 and 77. Because of that and my cashflow at that time to a somewhat lesser extent I passsed on it. I was wise enough to get the 3 CD compilation which surprisingly came with the bonus disc.

I had 3/1/69 on tape back in the day and the 3 disc compilation set so I am familiar with the shows. However seeing how highly regarded the FW box is on these lists has compelled me to make acquiring it my next conquest.

Looking at the secondary market the 2 most expensive releases to acquire are: the FW box aand Dave's Picks Vol. 1. Spring 1990. TOO, the Warlocks, Dave's 2-4 get up there on prices as well. Right now on ebay there are a few FW boxes sitting at about $500. Recently a complete FW with discs only (no box no sleeves, just the loose CDs) on an auction went for $200. A cheap price for Dave's Vol. 1 is $250. It would be hard for me to shell out 500 big ones for the FW box. Similarly I am not keen on paying $250 for Dave's Vol. 1. However if I could get the complete FW box for $250 (discs, box sleeves) I would do that. I might have to wait for a while as I am not sure when or even if I will find it at that price. It just seems like that box is the "missing link" for me.

There’s a lot of song repetition in FW69.
I don’t have the physical box, but do have a copy made out of digital ether. Also have 27,28 on vinyl which are made from Plangentized remasters. Thus, those who don’t want the FW Box rereleased are denying themselves a better sounding copy.
Personally, I think I like 11-10-67 and 2-14-68 better than the shows in FW69 (not that I don’t like FW69).
So Dave, bring on a 67/68 Box (after the 71 Box).

Don’t forget about the From The Vault Box which contains a remastered 8-13-75 and a third disc with FTV2.

Box speculation is fun. I agree with what others have said in the past, that ABCD Enterprises may have stipulated that the returned reels get priority treatment for release within a set time frame. ABCD is run by Deadheads, and they want the reels released just as badly was we do. I wonder how many copies of each release ABCD gets, and if they are unnumbered.

Jamming to 6-15 set 2 right now.
Sound quality on this release is spectacular.

For me it really depends on my mood at the time. Different box sets fit different moods. Having said that, FW '69 would be at the top of the list for that 2/27/69 Dark Star, just like Live Dead will always be at my favorite original album. That 2/27/69 Dark Star was instrumental in turning me on to the Dead in the first place, that whole Dark Star - St. Stephen - Eleven - Lovelight sequence was unlike anything that I had heard before. Once I discovered Live Dead it replaced most of the classic rock that I had been listening to on my morning ride to school on the bus.
Looking back it surprises me sometimes that the school bus driver didn't just drop a few of us off at the police station. There were about 5 or 6 of us that would just sit in the back portion of the bus and smoke bowls, carefully covering the bowl and discretely passing it around. I mean, we thought we were slick, we'd hold our hits for as long as possible to minimize the smoke, but it obviously must have reeked. Everyone else in the back of the bus knew, and in fact pointed it out on one or two occasions. And yet, nothing was ever said. But I digress, I was talking about box set rankings...