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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    May 1978....

    .....the month of the guttural growls.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    DEADVIKES: Nice Pick man!

    5/14/78 show was way off my radar, and I'm not sure I've even listened to it before, if so it was in a fever dream of excitement caused by the 30 Trips Box Set.

    If you too are unfamiliar, I would recommend you all check it out as DEADVIKES knows of what he speaks.. Show rips.

    It's one of those shows that makes you think, is there more stuff like this in '78 that I should go back and look for?

    Admittedly when I looked at the song list, I was not excited. It looks really plain on paper (or wherever you look at things like song lists), almost skipped it, but DEADVIKES said check it out, so I grabbed it, along with 5/13/78 Set 2 and loaded it up on my device and headed out to mow the yard.

    Since I like to have some grass while cutting grass I tend to want a Playing In The Band so I put on 5/13/78 Set 2 first (no Set 1 SBD in circulation, but more on that) and fired it all up!

    From the get go of the Bertha > Good Lovin' opener I could tell this show had that certain special something. You all gotta check it out, it smokes the boys are just ripping. Jerry's got that amazing '78 sound to his voice.. something about '78 Jerry, he has such a great quality to his voice, maybe it was the laryngitis he got earlier in the year, or all the cigs, or age, or all of those things, but his voice just takes on a certain sound in '78 that is... well, Great!

    Again if you look at the set list for 5/13 nothing stands out, but man if you listen to it, the bands on fire. I finished the lawn and the show and popped on 5/14 to get a little taste as my interest was now totally peaked.

    CRACK! Right off the bat... the band is ripping.

    Great Half-Step, Cassidy opener to get things started and you can just tell it's on tonight.
    I grabbed my bike and took off on a ride to further explore the music and the plague ridden earth.
    I was a little skeptical that I had the right show for my ride when Looks Like Rain began.
    Honestly, I kind of put up with that song. It's never been a favorite of mine, sometimes it will impress me, but the big slice of Cheddar that it has for lyrics has always made me a bit dismissive of that tune. Not to mention the whole "street cats making love" line always makes me think of Janice & Pigpen goin' at it, thanks Phil!

    So yeah, I begin to roll my eyes as the road rolls by, but.. I have to say this is a killer version of LLR, I mean shit it's really good. And I can say the same for the rest of this show, they slay it. It's a blast.
    BTW special mention to 1978 Ship Of Fools. Jerry just sings that song so well this year! I remember pouring over the Red Rocks '78 version as a kid and thinking it was a one off, and now when I go through this year and hear these great versions of Ship Of Fools that Jerry delivers it just impresses me how he would go after different songs.. differently. Based on where he was at and where he was going and what that song was feeling like to him.
    Cool stuff!

    So all that said, go check it out, it's worth the trip.

    Big Hat Tip to DEADVIKES for the turn on.

    I would not of gone there on my own, I really enjoyed hearing that show, and also realized I didn't have Set 1 of 5/13/78 in my collection (Audience Only, but nice recording by Steve Rolfe once they get the PA sorted out & TMNS which totally rips was on 2017 30 Days).
    So thanks man!

    Now it makes me wonder what else is hiding in May '78 that I'm overlooking.. 5/10 & 5/11 I'm looking at you.
    Oh but the set lists just don't look that interesting ;)

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    Englishtown Synchronicity Bob T, Didya win?

    DeadVikes 5/14/78 you say? I'll try and check it out.

    Heading into some Drums > Space 7/2/85 style but will see where the day takes us.

    Be Well All.

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    9/3/77 Englishtown..... bob t

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    Put this 30 Trips show on for the morning workout. 5/14/78 Providence RI. This is such a stellar 78 show and the sound quality to my ears is one of top 78 show released to date.

    Be well people and don't climb the barb wired fence idiot.

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    Dug that show yesterday and then... DROP!

    The Angel's Share

    Hot Damn, Hot Damn

    That's some amazing shit! I went there.
    I immersed myself in the studio in Feb / Mar 1970 with Betty & the Boys.
    (pic of tape log says 3/3/70 based on shows around that time they'd of recorded rough tracks between Fillmore West show 2/8/70 & Fillmore East shows 2/11 - 14, practice those rough tracks for a few weeks and tour in Feb, come back play Family Dog 2/27 - 3/1 and then lay down Workingman's between 3/2-3/6 before heading to Phoenix on 3/7. Possibly some more in Feb tween 2/14 - 2/20 or 2/23 - 2/27. Hmmm wonder what else that find tells us about this timing.)

    The rabbit hole opened and I dropped in and have forgotten some of the things I had to say about 7/17/88.

    Mind Blowin', Unknown Recordings Never-Before-Heard = Super Nice Surprise / Super Geek Out

    What'd you all think?

    Love that stuff.

    7/17/88.. You know you're a Head when you listen to the Pre-Show KPFA fund raiser stuff. But I found it fascinating. Discussions with McNally, Gans, Lambert and Healy. And it's an inside view at what a great band we're following around (yes still, only in cyberspace now). Helping support solid causes for our futures and giving joy to people while they're here on earth.

    Good show, I had to relisten to the Blackbird from 4/26/88 with Jerry, Bob & Brent.. they nail that one, give it a go! But just can't seem to get it together as the band here or at Alpine. (Does a SBD circulate of 4/26/88? I thought I had one back in the day).

    Man those Workingman's sessions got me high.

    Threw me off my twofer.
    Lucy you got some listening to do!

    7/1/85 is delivering a strong Set 1 now as I type this stuff.. Day Job (ironic?)

    What's the haps for today.. I got a lot of Dead to listen too :)

    EDIT: JimInMD I need to check out 7/15/88 again soon. Favorite of the 3?

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    This is a great pick Oroborous!

    Source on Relisten is solid. I bet the official copy mixed and mastered would be even better. 88 in MN today! I love it.
    Hot weather and the Dead. Just brings back the memories. Longer show for the era as well. Believe it or not, yes, this is a great song, love it. I think Jerry retired it in 1990, maybe March 18?? Can't remember for sure. Good call everyone and as always looking forward to tomorrow.

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    I like how someone in the band starts cracking up when Bobby tunes up his acoustic to Blackbird.. and says Oh God.. and I think makes Bobby screw up the opening verse. Brent?? Nice little show, I like all three, 7/15 is a gem as well.

    I'd have to think Billy the Kid and Bolo were in attendance?? I would have loved to have been there....

    Believe it or not, great tune and great version.

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    ...that they didn't play "Believe it or Not" more often. Sure, the main riff is the same as "Gomorrah," but man, what a lovely song. No one seemed to complain when they took "Samson" and turned it into the jam portion of "Throwing Stones."

    Another great 88 show. Thanks to this group for showing me light :)

    Peace

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    Ambiance comes in different sizes.
    We like a small hall, and so do you, and an outdoor gig in the sun, and a large hall when it can be made to sound good.
    Urobourous is hungry. How do we control him?

    Greek '88 you say? with a Pre-Show Broadcast on KPFA (It rhymed)

    Sure!

    BTW it's a few days out but can I pick 7/6/87 for it's Anniversary?

    It was a really fun show to see and I'd like to hear your all's opinion on that there show and if you haven't heard it, I'd like for you too.

    Alrighty... Looks like we're heading back to '88 and I think that's great.

    I'm a poet but didn't know it.

    Yep we listened to 1978-07-01 on May 22nd.

    And it's a twofer for you who dare! 7/1/85 with some Dancing In The Streets and double up on your Playing > Uncle John's

    Hot Damn!

    Four Winds Blow where are yooooouuuuuu?!?!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
Be well folks!
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