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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1981
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    I've been lurking and listening when I can..

    I still have not caught up on my digital media issue after losing a couple of PC's in a couple of weeks. I am back up and running, but.. I still have some work to do getting all my software installed, tuned up and working the way I like.

    So I have been listening vicariously through you guys.. and have been hitting a bunch of released shows on my own on devices that are already loaded when I cannot keep up. I'm on a bit of a post hiatus roll.. I did do the 69 shows doc tossed out, Essen and a few others. I also hit the entire May 77 Box (the first one) in sequence, both Hartford 87's, the whole Giants Box, and Deer Creek plus a few others. I've been venturing out into a new hobby which has kept me outdoors a lot, so less PC time and I have always tried to avoid being too attached to a cell phone.

    So that's my excuse.. but I am still here and will participate more when the planets are properly aligned. Speaking of planets.. holy crap, what about the James Web telescope.

    As you were.. up next is the YouTube of the 90 show. Looking forward to that.

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    Hey OB, yes will give this one a listen tonight. Thanks for the pick. New Haven.

    Hey Bluecrow, yes super excited about the new box. Dave is giving the audio an A+, I have never heard him say that before and he could not with last year's box. I think it is great they are giving us something new this year. I would have thrown in the 79 shows at the Garden as well, but hey, that is just me.

    Enjoy it out there. Enjoying an Oberon right now as well.

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    tumbleweeds

    scene - "tumbleweeds rolling by - only sound, the wind"

    awfully quiet in this here town last little while (guilty as charged)

    unlike Senator Oro, not much dedicated listening on my part last little bit. got caught up in other stuff. hopefully getting back on track.

    that Essen Set I video was awesome (still haven't gotten to Set II). A few years ago in regards to query as to Jerry using a pick vs. finger picking, someone over on archive lynkd to a concert video clip of Jerry playing Althea where he switches between the two techniques at several points in course of the song. He finger picks the main Althea "theme", while using a pick throughout bulk of it I think. The transition is like a magic trick, he tucks the pick between two fingers (index and middle finger stub?) almost like a card sharp - you really don't see the move unless you're laser focused and then you "might" see it. A year ago I tried to contact the guy to find out what show that was (I forgot) but no response. And now I think the video shared to illustrate this might be Essen.

    Senator, glad to see that you are picking up the listening slack for the Intermountain Conference. Nice that you got in the '87 Red Rocks shows. Was 2nd row center Night 1 with "extended family" of 10 (personally staked it out after sprinting past the security dude despite his call to stop when they let us in at the lower entrance - I think an impressive uphill run at elevation over 6000 ft.) Was reading that Touch of Grey article via That Mike this morning and thought how freaking lucky I was to get mail order tix for that Red Rocks run (plus Alpine and Pittsburgh) plus Hampton '88 (all while living in rural southern Indiana/Ohio) given how the scene had changed in those days.

    Also want to add that both DaP 43 and the Garden box are like manna from heaven. Woo doggies!!

    Hope everyone's doing well. Hot and dry here - need some rain. Scene - bluecrow holding a mass produced cheap 16oz cold beer - "Onward !!"

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    Tap, tap, tap….is this thing on?
    Ok, where we’re we?
    Watched 3/23/81, and most of 7/10/90 over the past WE, back to back.
    Both good in different ways, but man, the level of overall professionalism etc on the 90 video was eye opening.
    I just don’t understand how some folks don’t like 89-90? But hey that’s their prerogative and all good!

    Caught the 7/11&12/69 shows. Decent, interesting, nice look at JG messin with the pedal steel etc. sound was variable. Nice Live Dead suite etc.
    Free ranged 10/6/77 (think y’all did that one awhile back?). Some solid 77. Had a King Biscuit tape early on.
    A good show but perhaps more run of the mill comparatively?
    Did 7/4/81 on the fourth, and 8/11, 12, and 13/87 recently.
    Enjoyed them all. Not a bad one in the barrel, nothing spectacular sticks out either. All are worth a spin, but not must listens. Sorry, everything’s been a frickin blur lately, so not many notes etc.

    Bastids are dragging me back to work soon, so I’m sure I’ll be rolling accordingly.
    But today I’m enjoying this fine show (so far) from 9/23/82.
    Figured a) it’s an 82 which we’ve been focusing on this year, and really enjoying! , b) it’s the show before the Cuse Dome show we were at, and c) since it’s the night after the second MSG night from the upcoming box.
    I’ve only heard the 3/9/81 show from said box (it is a goodn), but like to have virginal listens of released shows when possible, so I won’t hit any of the actual shows, but will sneak around some of their neighbors etc to catch the flavor and perhaps some perspective?
    Oh, gonna try and watch 7/12/90 this WE on the big screen!
    Ok for now. Now if only that dam bear hadn’t filched our beer!

    EDIT: 9/23/82. Solid, Most enjoyable. This, and the next night (that I saw), perhaps hopefully being a good indicator that the 82 shows at least are going to be sweet! We’ll poke around the carcass more over the next couple months as (some of us) anxiously await the box drop.

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    Okay Conekid, 7/12/90 sounds good to me. I have never heard this show. Thanks. #43 Announcement coming tomorrow.

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    Playing it now, if a pick is needed for today jump on board.

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    Essen and "food for the soul"

    "essen" is German for "eat".

    True.

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    Interesting Hard to Handle

    Bad Jokes to be sure. What a piece of history we have here.

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    The first principle is that you must not fool yourself………

    Hey rockers!!

    Pick(s) Of The Day: New York State Pavilion, July 11 and 12, 1969

    And you are the easiest person to fool. That being said, there’s not a lot of fooling around here. It can be challenging to explain…….

    I lumped these together because they were some of the first “bootleg” 1969 recordings I ever heard. Which means, they’ve been around since the dawn of time, since I am, after all, as old as dust………………..

    What to make of these little gems? Difficult to digest, but rewarding. Unlike Reed’s Ranch, there are big jams here, to go along with new material being worked in, good doses of Pigpen, and two Lovelights. Plus a reminder that Mr Robert Weir shouldn’t try to tell jokes………..

    The recordings themselves are pretty decent, maybe not “great” and I’m not sure they’re “official release material” (especially the second night, for which only a large fragment circulates), but they served us well back in the day, as they do now.

    If I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize.

    Rock on,

    Doc
    I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there……

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    Overachiever and proud of it! Good job, OB.

    I can do 7/10/90 today (I think)..

    I only made it through 7/1/85 from my list earlier. I agree with OB's comments, but I do like the revisit of the early arrangement for Dancin' that surfaced in this time. Not a best of show by any means, but there's something about 1985 that's different. It's like taking a break from French Roast and dipping into a double expresso. Love some of the song selections and their willingness to throw new songs and ideas into the ether, especially songs like She Belongs to Me, Comes a Time, etc.

    Up early, drinking some strong, strong Italian Roast.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/09/2020 - 18:46

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Please give the date of the show, not just the release identifier.
My shows are organized by date.
Thanks.

Edit:
Just figured out what DP22 is. I listened to those shows a few weeks ago and so will pass.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 04/09/2020 - 19:07

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Snowed here in WI, too. Yet, I finished the lawn raking. Go figure. Are you sure it wasn't Graupel (snow pellets)?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/09/2020 - 21:24

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....got the Galaxy S20+ at the beginning of March. My old phone was circa 2014. Was time for an upgrade. Came with an early order credit of $150. Used that towards Buds+'s. Testing them now during 2.23/24.68 Tahoe. Not bad.
Then I heard about all the 5G shit. Can't win for losing i guess.

RT 3.1. Fun to revisit this one - been a long long time. Totally forgot that it had that awesome Terrapin > Playing. BITD I had a cassette from a friend who labeled it "Terrapin > Playing > Jam > Yikes!!" At one point it seems like Brent was channeling his inner Ned Lagin (fully approve!)

Looking forward to visiting Santa Fe later today. Never given that legendary show a deep listen. Anybody got rec as to what source? Notice that there's an Usborne matrix.

Pick of the day reminds me of a college literature class - 4 days in and it feels like already a week behind. Tahoe is gonna have to wait.

Wichita - real bounce in their step whole show. I think '72 is my favorite "era" for Other One. Some really great Keith piano in there. Always sweet when they drop from one of these into some slow heartfelt beauty like Brokedown. When are we gonna get 9-28-72?

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 07:41

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If I told you all that went down it would burn off both of your ears.

Viola Lee Blues 19:15 pure bliss
Hurts Me Too 4:13
Dark Star 6:49 nice transition>
China Cat Sunflower 4:38 best ever?
The Eleven 10:33 fantastic
Turn On Your Lovelight 12:40 nice little boogie
Born Cross-Eyed 2:32 yes
Spanish Jam 7:23 wow
Morning Dew 8:10 nice
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 14:39 sweet blues jam
That's It For The Other One 8:13 okay
New Potato Caboose 9:08 Heavenly
Alligator 3:45 okay
China Cat Sunflower 4:14
The Eleven 7:17
Alligator 6:39 oh yeah, an 11 jam
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) 11:49 see that train a comin', wow excellent!!
Feedback 4:55

Feb 1968 Jerry played a - Gold-top Les Paul with P-90 single coil p/u's. 3 Twin Reverbs, 2 Fender 4x12 cabinets, JBL D120 speakers

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 10:47

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Stoked, unfortunately have to make a death run first; ACE for varnish, and PO. Don’t ya know almost finished with more book shelves for Lovey and I’m out of Varnish, Doooaahh! At least it’s pre-order curb side. PO I’m afraid I might have to go in and stand in line for a package (clothes for her, to go to a wedding, that we already dropped non refundable mucho dineros, that were probably not going to be able to attend).....
But I’ll be firing that up this afternoon once I have the goods....going to try the Siemens matrix. Never been as enamored with SB recordings as most. I feel there is nothing like a good matrix, more natural sounding....

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 11:39

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....actually does sound better boros. Thanks!✌
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-10.139379.mtx.seamons.ht112.flac16
Opens with Music Never Stopped. Bobby botches half the lyrics, but, as usual, the boyz make up for it with a smoking end jam.
TLEO follows. Jerry and Brent in SYNC!! Thats my wedding song btw. 20 years strong!
I really, really dig these two shows.

....to end the first. Storm clouds were rolling in and rumor has it, this show had one of the longest set breaks of all time. Waiting for the weather. Pics show that they didn't have a covering over the stage, just the rigging (see my avatar). The China Rider segue is bopping!! Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 12:49

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Music, holy crap, energy of a set 2 opener; TLEO, nice pace mellow and jammy; Esau, it's nice; Big RR and BIODTL fast songs didn't work here(maybe a Bird Song or Row J.); Tenn Jed back on track; Minglewood, smoking; China>Rider rockin' nice transition, wish I was a headlight...

Woman R, nice energy; Cumberland, foot stomping, Phil bombs; Playin, really nice jam; China Doll, beautiful; Jam Drums, Space really great; TOO, trembled and exploded; GDTRFB, OMSN, rockin'; CR&S the only time they encored with CR&S.

...."If its any comfort to anyone, on this date in 1890 in Cairo Illinois, it rained fish."
https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/item/can-it-rain-frogs-fish-and-…
Lolololol.
For the record, the fact that there is a second set Cumberland with bombs never swayed my opinion of this show. 😜

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Submitted by bolo24 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 13:07

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Had some family issues to deal with the last couple days, so I'm behind a bit. Halfway through RT 3.1, hope to get through the rest of that one and Santa Fe by tomorrow morning. Kinda fun listening to shows that haven't been in the rotation for a few years. SO much good stuff - we are blessed indeed!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 13:19

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....in all good time Bolo. Hope all is well. Meanwhile, Phil is laying some serious brickwork towards the project that is PITB.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 13:47

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....the only ballad in the second set was China Doll. Albeit played at 1.5× speed, the outro jam is delicious. More Lost Sailor teases from Bobby during space with a dash of Heaven Help The Fool.
At the 9:10 mark they finally decide on The Other One. 9:10 mark. I still don't believe in coincidences. Cool Space.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 14:05

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....to be honest, I can't remember the last time I actually listened to one. Shame on me.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 14:17

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....and it gives me chills. Wonderful!!!
Phil steps up to Bobbys mic at 4:36.
Thanks for playing. See yall later.
9.11 up next, because why not?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 14:41

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....features a raucous Greatest Story and an early Hell In A Bucket that was just spreading its wings. Good stuff.
Still enjoying the ride. Kinda bumpy lately, but enjoying nonetheless.
West LA up. One of the most covered songs by them, because West LA.
Saw a picture of LA today. No smog. Actually a beautiful looking city.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 15:34

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One of the high points of my life. Turbo Tom drove down from Kiowa, Montana , picked me up where I was living north of Taos and we made our way to the Santa Fe Downs. We camped next to the parking area where the Hog Farm was helping out. The Sikhs were security (Akal Security) for the Downs. Both days were amazing. And it was harvest season. The two shows were far from sold out. Many of the old guard long hairs from northern New Mexico were in attendance. Just thinking about those two concerts is like a memory from the Golden Eternity.
I’m most of the way through the first set. Earbuds , iPhone and cell tower signal up in the mountains to access this.
Great call V-guy 72!

....they played three shows there. These two, plus a one off in '82. On off as in no tour. 13 song first set if I recall correctly. Just decided to pop into Santa Fe. Plangent it and box it and ship it.
I'll pay $99.99 US dollars.
Alaska would work too. I'll pony up three moose pelts.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 16:51

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When I moved down from Montana in January 1982 I lived ten miles north of Taos on north Hondo Mesa in the “kiva” in the Grow-hole. (Built by the alternative school the Taos Learning Center TLC in the early 70s) Lived in a tipi and then the “Pyramid Cube” on El Salto Mountain for the next five years. Spring of 1987 I moved to Grant County and worked trails in the Gila. Also have worked many years up in Gallup. (Trail work and Public Radio)
Another side bar on the Santa Fe Dead shows. The state penitentiary is just a couple miles from the Santa Fe Downs. Bobby Petersen (Unbroken Chain, Pride of Cucamonga) arranged with the authorities at the prison to transmit a low wattage FM signal live broadcast direct from the Downs. Bobby used to live on Lama Mountain up in Taos County not to mention Robert Hunter spent time living on Canyon Road in Santa Fe in the 60s and visited Taos at different times. And contrary to rumors , the Dead did not play at New Buffalo Commune in the 60s. I asked one of the founders last summer , Rick Klein who helped start Buffalo in 67 that very question. Not the Dead but the Eagles played at New Buffalo. Also Laird Grant (Jerry’s longest time friend) used to live at Morning Star above Arroyo Hondo.
The skies are the most consistently clear of pollution day after day for the past three weeks than for the better part of the past 40 plus years. And I’m talking the mountain west.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 16:54

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....northern NM does have energy. The Taos hum proves that. Gallup was always a pit stop for me.
9.11.83 has a Morning Dew.
Where have all the people gone today??

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 04/10/2020 - 23:03

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Good work Vguy.

Looking forward to the next pick.

This has been a fun week, good idea Bolo.

Be well people.

Did you catch the Shakedown Stream?
Pretty cool. Dave, can't sit still. He mentioned 50-70 or so high quality video in the Vault from 89-95. Intriguing to me, not sure if they will put any more of it out, but I would love to see it. Man, how about putting out the Spring 90 Tour on video? I would volunteer to help out on that project.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 04:48

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Should not have passed this one by.

ps Feb '68 this is what I think heaven must be like.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 10:58

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Been working in the garage last few days and the energy from both DP 22 and 9/10/83 has made things fly by!
Gave Santa Fe another listen last night because I was diggin it and wanted to give it a better listen than the first time. Great 83 show, fun, spirited show with interesting sets. Might just give the next night a spin today while I work.
Guessing perhaps partially why that China-rider is in overdrive might be due to the deluge that was obviously happening as Bob says something like “we’ll be back when it stops raining”. I might contribute the pace solely to “other” things except it’s not like all the songs were that fast and it wasn’t right after break? So to go from normal 83 tempo to warp drive just then, and since they didn’t have full canopy etc, makes me think they were trying hard to get the fug outta there lol.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 11:31

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I like 9/10 a little better both are great. There are two grate audience recordings of these shows in hi-rez maybe a matrix box.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 12:20

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China Cat Sunflower / I Know You Rider had me dancing in the dark last night. Gonna listen to the second set today. You know, land of manana , New Mexico stylie. Damn this is a long set break!

May I make a suggestion inspired by Bolo's idea? I think a "Pick Of The Week" is more workable. I think one person should make the selection and at the same time designate the next picker. So on Monday let's say JiminMd makes a pick and names the next picker who will announce his pick the following Monday and the next picker etc etc. Hey I know I'm in social isolation at least through May and I think Bolo's idea is great but it needs some structure. I also know I've been drinking and I have no idea if anything I've said makes any sense. Also I just finished 4/11/72 and I think it's probably the weakest show of the tour.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 04/12/2020 - 02:38

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That appeals to me a bit more. I am still following my own unplanned trail through shows, so the pick of the day was on top of what I was already listening to. The result was I got left behind straight away and decided to drop out. A weekly pick would obviously give us more time, and wouldn't intrude on where we feel we are supposed to go.

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Submitted by DeadAreMyDealers on Sun, 04/12/2020 - 07:43

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Another vote for Mhammonds idea. Gives us all a chance to give these the attention they deserve. Goddamn work has been interfering with my listening sessions :-)

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 04/12/2020 - 08:43

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Maybe finish 2nd set today. 9/11/83 was amazing also.
Happy Easter! Be safe everyone.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 04/12/2020 - 11:14

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I listened to 12-28-79 a day late and haven’t done the others so far.
Looks like I have 9-10,11-83 on a HD but they haven’t migrated to my music player yet. Might do that later today, but first yard work calls.

For my easy-listening, coffee-drinking routine to get today going I went with 10-10-80 Acoustic.
But that just finished.

So onward with 1-24,25,26-69 % which is compiled from the AOXOMOXOA-50th bonus disc, AOXOMOXOA-Golden Road Box filler, and a portion of Live Dead. Such things are possible with my collection because I organize by show date, not by the arbitrary order that shows are released.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 04/13/2020 - 06:06

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I think we only had 3-4 picks last week. Now that we are through the Holiday, maybe we could get back at it. Seems like every other day is doable for most. Either way we need a new pick from someone. I already had one last week. Would like us to stick to official releases. Just my thoughts.

Be well people.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 04/13/2020 - 07:34

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12-2-73, part of DP14

The remainder of DP14, 11-30-73%, can also be done as extra credit.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 04/13/2020 - 08:23

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Not like I’m a regular here, but did jump in at (under)ground level. 50 year anniversary , 30 Trips around the Sun. Winterland. What’s not to love. “ let me hear you say; WAAAAA!!”

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 04/13/2020 - 08:25

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Just started :)

I've always preferred this part of the pick to the 11/30 portion (which isn't to say the first part is any slouch!) I think a part of it is that "Morning Dew" always seems to work better as a closer than an opener, at least for me. The second disc of this portion (or disc 4 of the set,) is just exactly perfect!

Happy Listening!

EDIT: Oh yeah, this is the show where Phil hassles the guy in the audience - "Who are you? The heat? Someone shine a light on this guy..." Kind of a jerk..

Peace

I had to take a break for some work related conference calls just as Weather Report was moving into Let it Grow, but I picked back up and am now into "Nobody's Fault" jam territory. This was a great release of a great show! As I mentioned, I prefer this one to 11/30, but I think I will have to def. go back and hit some of those highlights (maybe all of disc 2,) after this.

That being said, it is really hard to beat this second set, that though very short, contains some FAR OUT there stuff... Wharf Rat, Playin, He's Gone, Truckin, Stella, Dew - all heavyweights in my all-time favorite GD tunes list.

Good choice, IceCream!

Peace

(EDIT: Whoops, I forgot 1/2 Step - another gem!)

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 04/13/2020 - 13:07

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Matrix of 12/1/73 - the show Dick forgot.

https://archive.org/details/gd1973-12-01.124132.mtx.dusborne.flac16/gd7…

It's got a "Sugaree", a "China>Rider", and a "Playin'>UJB>Playin'" - and so far, this Matrix sounds pretty darn good. I've never listened to this show, so it's a treat :)

I suppose this is for those students that not only want extra-credit, but are looking to write a master's thesis, or simply polish them apples into a 110%.

Peace

EDIT: After LLR, Phil says to the crowd "Be quiet over there, can't you see our piano players trying to tune up?" Seriously, what crawled up his %%# during this run?