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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1001
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    Mañana
    I’m down, never been…
    Perhaps 6/20/83 SB does exist and is being stashed? (Hey why not lol)

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    Keeping Tape Machines Dry

    Being in the pavilion helps.. but no soundboards exist for this show, guessing the machine got zapped when they lost power. The audience tapes sound decent though.. especially considering what they had to go through to make the tapes.

    Phil really gets into it during the second set. Was it thunder or was it Phil?

    Hope you all are doing well... another summer show perhaps? Since no ones thrown out anything how about another Merriweather, 6.27.84? Certainly off the beaten path.

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    Thanks for filling out that picture of the show in my mind Jim!
    How in the world did that taper keep his rig dry?
    I just picked the first one in the archive and the sound was pretty good.
    As Oro suggests a matrix of this should be released. I'd buy it for sure.
    Got so much more feel for the flow when you can hear the audience react.
    Cheers

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    Take a few days off from the boards here and this show pops up.

    For a few brief hours the heavens hid behind a torrent of darkness and mayhem the likes of which, well, tripping at least, the likes of which one rarely gets to witness and come through the other side unscathed.

    It might not come through on the tapes, but boy was that something to behold. The most fun I have ever had a Dead Show.

    I was going to hit 12/31/76 today which came up on the DaP 46 thread but that one will have to take a back seat to this. It's probably been 15 years since I listened to it. Any other storm I have seen of this intensity, I sought cover.. I got to enjoy this one with 20,000 of my closest friends, unprotected, outside, exposed.. many on the lawn.

    Lightning struck the top of the shed I think during Wharf Rat, but the storm was raging for most of the show. Bobby had to put down his guitar during Sugar Magnolia supposedly because he was getting shocked for fear of getting shocked. The storm was localized, but I do not recall a flood on the Little Patuxent River like this one even during some of the bigger hurricane type storms that have hit over the last 30 or 40 years.. at least across Route 29 where the venue sat. The walking bridge to the parking lot was gone, flooded away.. and the highway into and out of the show was under water and therefore closed.
    After the show they had did a hack job patch on the lawn as there were big ruts (mini canyons) where people were doing body slides down the hill (both fully clothed and naked), at first by accident later on purpose. After the second show they brought in the big equipment and had to completely resurface the lawn and the venue before shows could commence. It was destroyed by a dayglo infused bodies tobogganing down the hill. The lawn was like a big waterslide and where it met the pavilion it made a cascading four-foot muddy waterfall into the pavilion seating.

    It was like a four-mile hike from the show to my parents' house where most of us went afterwards. We had to wade across the floodwaters over the highway, the currents trying to displace us.. a few of the smaller people held hands to keep their balance. Picture that, coming down from mushrooms after a local dead show. That's my Grateful Dead kodak moment etched into what remains of my teenage memories.

    Big fun with the Grateful Dead.

    Oh, and the show, at least as I remember it, was high octane GD. A little rough around the edges typical for '83 but the band never wavered, they seemed to embrace the energy and just roll with it in perfect time with the storm around them. I'm clearly biased but I would call this a great show which does not come through on the tapes that circulate.

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    Didn’t catch it before, but JG mos def throws it out there, Shane they didn’t do it more.
    Total surprise seeing it at Buckeye! That and the Violent Fems opening, who I was totally not familiar with until then lol.

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    Anyone notice the R&C tease before the Jed? Shame it was never played again I think after Buckeye Lake on 6/9. Which is better June 90 or June 91? Can't both be true at the same time? :-)¯ :-)¯ :-)¯

    -edit- If I had to go with one it would be June 91 because more is better.

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    What a great tour. Would have been fun to see these two nights in Kansas. Nice first set, good Sugaree. Great second set with Scarlett Fire Truckin into Smokestack Lightning (the archive incorrectly lists the song as Spoonful). Great run out of Drums and Space. Always love a It's all over now baby blue encore.

    Great stuff. Will definitely listen to these shows again. Thanks.

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    Read the posts about this show on deadnet

    After you listen to it.
    I agree, it was a good show but…until Truckin!!…from then on, the energy is,…well, electric!
    I hadn’t read all the posts yet, but sorta knew about storm influence etc, I remember Jim mentioning it once, but for whatever reason I’d not heard it.
    But boy all of a sudden, like a switch being turned on, it got my attention during Truckin, from the moment the lightning struck, holy crap, snapped me outta what I was doing and took full notice! From then on, that’s what the X factor is folks, that’s what the GD was all about! Zaaaaappppp!
    Will definitely need to rehear this one. Kinda glad it was an aud. Not sure it would have been as powerful if SB only? Should totally be a matrix if ever released, which it should!

    Edit: did 3/28/93 for something different. Shows ok overall, solid, no yawns or mishaps. But Jer is on this night and his songs are all noteworthy in the context of the year. Surprised how many enjoyable shows I’ve found from 93 so far. Sure I’m cherry picking, but still surprised and not a real clunker yet…

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    has the last Bob Star (Little Star?) of only three?
    Just finishing 1st set. Good solid start.
    I'll let you know later on the rest but not feeling it yet.
    Notes said raging storm had the place "electric".
    You were there vicariously Oro! Time warp transport?
    Cheers
    Edit: Beam me up to where they were Scotty! Second set rips from the get go.
    China>Rider>Samson and Truckin' that went Nobody's are peak stuff.
    Jerry just everywhere all at once. Juggling rhythms and riffs within riffs.
    And by '83 the wicked speed of his attack was so smooth and polished.
    A style I've had to learn to like I'm embarrassed to say. Nonstop all the way through Drums and that last little 3 minutes of Jam crazy good. Who was doing that steel drum sound for a bit there? Need more of that in the reggae songs. Strong TOO and finish. Love a mellower encore to wind down like Baby Blue.
    Thanks for the tip on this one.

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    Holy Crap!!

    6/20/83………you MUST hear this, that’s all I’m going to say….
    Don’t let the Aud only scare ya!
    Next nights good, but I have not been as emotionally moved by a show like this in quite awhile….
    Cheese and rice Jim!

    Yeah, come on Dave, where’s the 91? Didn’t you see the fall tour I sent ya? Half the works already done lol
    Fall 91 box, summer 91 with video ala Up to Bu faf or CW&I.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Got through both today, good pick Conekid. Listened to 12/2 first. Super mellow vibe. Could have dozed off during that super WRS. Stellar finish with that Truckin, Stella Blue and Morning Dew.

For some reason I prefer the 11/30 show, might be the Dew opener, which is so unique. Yes, Vguy, I agree the Dire Wolf is super mellow. Solid sound quality on this show as well, great job for these two, yes not complete shows from late 73, over twenty years old.

Looking forward to another pick, send us one Otis. This is giving me something to look forward to each day during this terrible time.
Maybe we will hear from Bolo again soon?
Nice new avatar Vguy, it is sweet.

Got a notice from Real Gone Music today, more Dick's picks coming back in stock, 31 and 28. That adds to the recent return of 33 and 29. These four, along with 36 are some of the best, IMO, they put out in the last two to three years. Good work Dave!

Otis, yes, Phil would get very vocal in the early days, through maybe 77. Then, we didn't hear from Phil for a long time.

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 10:16

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It may only be me on this journey, but I'm glad to have you here...

Peace

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:10

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Might As Well fire up 10-21-71 next.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:34

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Dave's #3 is in process. Started this morning. Good choice!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 04/14/2020 - 12:53

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....back to everyday. Was supposed to be off today, but a last minute corporate decision yesterday changed that. Otherwise I'd be halfway through 10.22.71. Listening to 4.14.71 at work though. These Buds+ earpieces are pretty sweet.

Very crisp recording! Good pick Otis, have not listened to this one in a while. Always interesting to listen to some of the classics in the early development phase. Jerry was very talkative in this release. "Hey this place is full of people, too weird."

Great Sugaree, Loser, Black Peter, stellar Comes a Time. Cumberland Blues is hot and than an old school That's it for the Other one.
Disc 3 from the previous night is no slouch, solid Truckin, Dark Star, St. Stephen! Great stuff.
Hard to believe how different they sounded when they got to Europe less than six months later, but that is what makes this so fun.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 06:13

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This is what I’m listening to today. Great Dead show I highly recommend it. I think 5-6 people might be participating.

I've got a lot of work to get through today, so I think I will start with 7/13/89 RFK and finish up with 4/15/70. I wasn't able to get Boxilla, so I will have to archive it, but no biggie :) Then, perhaps a night cap of the 7/12 RFK show...

I'm excited because these RFK shows do not get the love they deserve, and it has been quite some time since they went for a spin. The 4/15 Winterland show will be a first listen for me, so I'm pumped for that too...

I am surprised that more people haven't jumped on the bandwagon here, what with all of the time many of us have on our hands. Perhaps you are correct in many people are going through E72, and how that takes a lot of time. Personally, I LOVE E72, but I need some more variety in my listening - even if 95% of it is one band :)

Happy listening!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 10:01

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your comments, but haven’t been writing....so catch up time...
Loved 9/10/83, and think I liked 9/11 even more! Went for 10/17/82 for extra credit, but didn’t make it through....it was decent but didn’t seem to have the fire in the nuts that the 83s did and the sound wasn’t as good....still think there’s more hot stuff from that summer/fall 83 period. Remember thinking that I should do a real time comparison between the good matrix versions of those Sante Fe’s and the board cassette sourced DaP 27. or DP 6 for that matter. I’ve always felt many of these shows don’t resonate as well due to the flatness or compressed feel of those sources. They just don’t breathe, and 10/14/83 I was at so I’ve felt the recordings just don’t due the shows justice. Of course it’s been mentioned before, how would tptb get around this? Would it be such a big deal to throw a brother some cash for the use of their recordings? The more I hear good matrix’ the more I like better than SB only! Many of the Video discs and Spring 90 Terrapin Release 3/15/90 and perhaps Dozin at Knick? seem to use more ambient mics that to me make the instruments sound way more natural then SB only. I feel this is especially true during post Beatty years, which if they could solve this might make more of the later years available or useable...just a thought...

DP 14: what can I say, always been a favorite. Was one of the few must haves even back when I had the “whata i need more shows for” attitude. Not complete, but not so Frankensteined as some DPs, and from the great fall 73 tour, especially from the “the last ten”. These shows have always been top shelf for me; Amazing jams, true 5 piece during one of their most spectacular phases! Great pick, needed to get reacquainted!

DaP 3: this one is new to me so I’m not as intimate with it, but daddy like! Interestingly, understandably, not as tight as a week or 2 or 3 later, but surely made up for with enthusiasm, and neat look at many newish, work in progress material. Comes a time comes to mind, as well as One Mo Saturday....I must say, I think I like 10/21 better, but a Dark Star will do that to me....I’m realizing that my hangups with 70-71 is the outta tune guitars. Checked out that cool Calebration video someone posted, and same thing. Really dug it, cool transitional period, with great new songs, but Oy, those guitars sometimes are tough to take.....but so what, good pick!

Ok, today, we’ll try 4/15/70 first and follow up with 7/13/89. It’s the Mrs one allowed day a week to work from home (which is stupid because she has plenty more work but they’ll only allow 1 day, idiots)...so have to keep it down a bit, and have a new project to get on, so I’ll do the 4/15 first and wait to crank the 89 tonight.

4/16/72: I would love to do this one tomorrow! Can’t/haven’t taken the full E72 Pepsi challenge for various reasons, but have been trying to at least check out monster jams etc. So this way we get 2 birds stoned at the same time!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:49

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Jerry’s Gibson SG really sings during the Other One . Big sound in a bigger space than ballrooms or theaters. Lovelight / NFA / Lovelight is spiritual . A favorite 30 trips.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 13:12

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Average so far Pig Pen's blues picking it up. Candyman, how sweet!

Cryptical> Drums>Jam >The Other One>Cryptical>Dire Wolf and the rest of Disc 2 is great!

Multi Track bliss. Sounds so good. Great first set, really well played To Lay Me Down. I liked the LLR versions from this era, Bobby got after it on a lot of these. Love the Terrapin. Always makes me sad when I hear I will take you home, we lost Brent way too early. 79-90 was a very important era for the band. So many highs and lows. Good solid finish and I like this version of Good Lovin they did with some added vocals from Brent. Heard it a few times in 89.

Strider, I don't have 4/15/70, otherwise I would que it up.

I am down for 4/16/72 tomorrow, I have this one.

Be well!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/15/2020 - 17:33

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....4.15.70 is on the Archive. Doesn't sound as good, but decent enough. Couple cuts here and there.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 05:40

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Proof that the band had solid performances later in their career .

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 08:28

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Rebirth of the Dead

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 10:42

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RFK - such good stuff! Sadly, I was not able to get in a listen to 7/12, but I am sure that will come along soon now that the set is back on my mind.

I really enjoyed the whole show, but especially that 2nd set!

Now, 4/15/70 - that was a whole different beast. I really enjoyed what I heard (only got through about 2/3) but I will be finishing it up today. Then, I suppose it is on to 4/16/72. Was that the pick for today?

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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 11:14

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Didn't mean to abandon this thread - covid has hit a little too close to home.

2 family members (relatively mild to moderate symptoms and recovering, thankfully), and the wife of my walking/hiking buddy (not doing so well). He's awaiting test results for himself, and if he's positive I'll need to get tested as well. We are careful to keep our distance from each other, but you never know with this insidious virus. I feel great, by the way.

I'll check back in a few days. Glad to see y'all are still going back and re-visiting those gems that have been neglected for far too long!

Cheers and good health to all.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 11:33

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Listen to GOGD to keep the spirits up.

Just finished 4-16-72, played it while working so sometimes I was listening to it and sometimes it was just background music. That Cumberland seemed like it was one Vguy would like.

Now what to listen to?
Think I will go with 7-12-89 to complement yesterday’s listen of 7-13.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 12:20

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Bolo, very sorry to hear that and we hope you and your family will come through this okay on the other side. Just a terrible time and we hope to hear from you again soon.

Your idea for these picks have kept my spirits up here in MN.

Be well Bolo!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 13:12

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....bolo apologizing for being away from these boards. You have zero reason to apologize. Take care of you and yours and we will survive. Wishing you well.
And yes, that Cumberland is very nice. The Cumberland from Europe '72 was the song that got me interested in the GOGD. Is 4.16 the version?

6-7-77
9-12-89
4-16-72

I get a lot more listening done when home in quarantine. I don’t listen to music when at work, so it’s just in the car and when at home.

The June 77 Box got a lot of listening years ago when it still had that new car smell, but then other stuff got released and that stuff got played a lot. It’s great to go back to stuff that hasn’t been played in a long time, it seems new but also familiar. The Morning Dew on 6-7-77 totally did for me today, had forgotten about that one.

Been a busy day. E72 shows speak for themselves, so good. Really good China- Rider, Dire Wolf, Cumberland, Truckin. Solid show with something like 750 people. Good choice!

Also got in the first set of 7/12/89 as well. Always liked Phil on Tom Thumbs Blues, stellar FOTD.

Looking forward to a new pick for tomorrow.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 18:46

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I’ll probably have enough time for a least two, so 4-17-72 will be included.
I have another pick to suggest , but it can wait for any day, as it seems we’ll be here for a while.
I’ll throw it out tomorrow morning while drinking morning coffee if another suggestion hasn’t been made by then. Keep it to official releases because that’s what’s loaded on my music player.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/16/2020 - 19:16

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....better late than never!! A GSET opener is always welcome. Going frozen food tonight for din-din. Egg rolls and beer.
I totally missed the Daves 3 listen. Oops.
I have a pick for tomorrow! Winterland 10.22.67. The live bonus from the Anthem Of The Sun 50th. One disc. Surely we can find the time for that.
Edit....lets listen to the whole release!!!
I'm conekids wingman.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 08:30

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Ah Youth. The band plays with youthful abandon and exuberance during Truckin . Haven't listened to Arhuus in a long time. Picked up this morning from almost where I left off last night. Restart Truckin. Will try and squeeze in 4/17/72 later.
I’ve never been across the big pond.
GD in Europe like Kesey said; “heads across the water.”

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 08:49

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Ok, I'll bite.. this is fun.

I'm usually just a lurker but you guys have inspired me, so Thank you!

1972-04-16 was killer diller yesterday, That was soo good! It just shows the quality of that tour that not a song from that show made the album.. wow.
1970-04-15 - It took a few songs for the boys to get going, but God Damn, that TIFTOO Jam is HUGELY epic. That was great to hear again.

I still gotta listen to the '89 show... but I went off on a different trip yesterday after 4/16/72 and revisited Dick's first pick, 1973-12-19, but wanted to hear the "full show" so listened to the Miller SBD, Dick was right on all his picks, those are indeed the best tracks..

LATVALA!

Another reason I wanted to go back to 12/19 was to listen to Phil's Bass solo that got edited out, I was listening to an interview & Gans mentioned that and I'd forgotten it was missing (nice editing!). After doing some diggin' I came across it... it's cool and worth a listen.. but it sounds like it was missing from the Master Reel anyway as the solo only circulates as an audience patch from what I could find. Anyhow.. definitely worth a revisit whether you're listening to DP V1 or the Miller SBD or the Partial patch.. or all 3 will take you places too:)

Alright now you know why I'm a lurker.. I start babbling and stuff.

So it's 1972-04-17 today you say? Followed by the Grateful Dead Movie on Shakedown Stream... Happy Friday!

Thanks everyone, I'm digging the synchronicity of listening to picks from knowledgable heads and going to far out places.

During times like these it's like Jerry says on 12/19/73 “Remember Your Hippie Training Folks! Be Cool!!”

Thank you for being Cool!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 09:36

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I don’t know the first thing about it.
I used calculator and entered the date from my first GD concert plus date from last. 9181 days or twenty five years ,one month and twenty one days. Then I calculated 9181 days since my last Dead show 2/21/95 and came up with last Saturday .
Still trying to wrap my mind around that ole man time.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 11:29

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4-17-72 playing now
10-22-67 and Anthem-50th completed.

Welcome The GOGD, glad you came out of hiding.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 11:56

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Thanks icecrmcnkd!

Dig it here.

Got sidetracked with some fresh 1991 Preston.Miller upgrades on Archive.org.

As soon as I finish grooving to 1991-09-26, which is sounding pretty darn good, Ima gonna load up 1972-04-17 and enjoy the ride.

If we could lose the Virus I could get used to this... Be well everyone!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 16:23

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Nice to see you here GOGD.

Send us a pick for tomorrow.

I am going to check out the Shakedown Stream at 7:00 CST for the Q&A.

Be well people!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/17/2020 - 20:36

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Thanks DeadVikes!

What about 1973-02-26 - Dick's Picks V28? (missing Set 1 songs on Archive.org)

I haven't listened to it in awhile and could use a fresh pair of ears on it, not much early '73 happening here yet from what I can tell. I listened to 1973-02-09 last week for the first time in forever and was taken away..

If that's not working I can always throw the hat in for 1972-09-16 or that can be a bonus pick.

Between this and watching old Bill Walton, David Lemieux & Gary Lambert I'm feeling some DeadHead pride. Good music can make sad times better. Hats off to you all for doing some good work here.

Here's a list of what's come before (I think):
1967-10-22 - Anthem 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-06)
1968-02-23 & 24 DP V22 (2020-04-09)
1969-01-24, 25 & 26 - Aoxomoxoa 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-12)
1970-04-15 - 30 Trips (2020-04-15)
1971-10-21 & 22 - Dap 3 (2020-04-14)
1972-04-16 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-16)
1972-04-17 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-17)
1972-11-15 & 17 - DaP V11 (2020-04-07)
1973-11-30 & 12-02 - DP 14 (2020-04-13)
1978-02-03, 04 & 05 - DP V18 (2020-04-06)
1979-12-26 & 28 - DP V5 & RT 3.1 (2020-04-07)
1983-09-10 & 11 - SBDs (2020-04-08)
1989-07-12 - RFK Box (2020-04-15)

The following shows were also Mentioned
1972-04-17
1973-09-08
1973-12-01
1977-06-07
1979-09-01
1980-09-02
1980-10-10
1985-11-01
1989-07-13
1989-09-12

PS - That trip through 4/17/72 Dark Star > Sugar Mag > Caution > JBG was soooo sick today! I had to do that twice. Makes you think what could have been… Nobody stuck around to film Set 3.. forehead smack!!!

....you call it babbling. Here we call it crunching Dead numbers. I'm in. Lincoln has the slight advantage due to a GSET with a Dark Star chaser. Salt Lake has a Cold Rain opener (always an indication) and an Eyes->Dew. Tough call.

I am in on this for tomorrow. Good choice GOGD. Dick's 28. Another super solid Dave release.

And this one is for sale again at Real Gone if anybody doesn't have an official copy. Wow!

Cool!

Since it’s the weekend and all here’s my pick:
1973-02-26 - Dick’s Picks V28
1973-02-28 - Dick’s Picks V28
Take your pick, do ‘em both… choice is yours

Extra Credit jam the missing tracks on archive.org or in your stash.

Filler:
1972-09-16 - Circulating SBD partial

Just getting to the 1967-10-22, had to save it for the right time, and the right time is now…
Morning Dew, NPC, Hurts Me Too, great young band version CR&S, Lovelight, sick BIODTL (Jerry fanning.. this S#*% is good!

Dig the Avatar and oh yeah provided this is all copacetic with the moderator... alligator!

Stay well and remember your hippie training.