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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • JimInMD
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    Are Dicks Picks Failing?

    I think not..

    I think this has the potential to become a big deal simply because they built their house of cards on top of a limited edition, collectible business model. It seems CDs might be disintegrating all by themselves just sitting on a shelf while being properly stored. This issue seems to correlate to a specific year, which means a specific manufacturer and a specific stock of blanks.

    If all this turns out to be true, which is not known, it will have an impact on the number of people buying CD's going forward vs. not which impacts pretty much everything. I think we have reached a good equilibrium now, a stable market, mostly up-front payments which allows for a reliable production run or most importantly the ability to do a good job remastering and producing. (Think proper Jeffrey Norman time.)

    This could be nothing or it could be a big deal, it's too early to be sure. If true, I still think it's correctible and worth the investment to fix. No need to replace packaging, just the discs.

    This might cast a shadow over their ability to meet the 22k number. Just my two cents.

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    Dave s discs

    My Dave s discs all look fine and brand new, they were only played one or two times at most. Dave s 1 & 3 are full of static and and unlistenable, 2 & 4 don't play at all. So far my other Dave s picks seem fine, of the few I've played and they were all stored in the same box. So hopefully, this is something that only affects the first 4 . No big deal.

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    Aluminum will oxidize over time if exposed to air, this is especially true on a thin layer. I never checked this out for myself.. but if the edge is not sealed by the plastic the CD is made from, oxygen and humidity will mix and interact with the metal layer and oxidize it, which given enough time would cause to it to lose it's shape integrity and fail.

    If they are not sealing the edges in some way, that can't be good. I'm no chemist, but a rough edge might mean the metal could become exposed to air and given enough time the foil layer could degrade. But I doubt of that's the problem, that couldn't be the case. (In my best Sgt. Shultz Voice) Hogan.. I See Nothing..

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    What about the winterland box or other boxes? Is this only a Dap thing? This was probably already talked about but was wondering. I checked bears choice because I've had it for a long time and the disk is much better quality and thicker. The edge is smooth unlike the new disks which need a bit of sanding down. Mabey rhino should invest in a belt sander. Just saying. Peace.

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    Disc Rot

    It would be awfully nice, not that I expect it..

    If they somehow accommodated those of us that might have problems with these out of print items. Even if we paid shipping and handling and somehow confirmed an original purchase (or not).

    But the amount of goodwill would more than make up for the costs. Anyway.. Charlie got me to do some research too. It's not as uncommon as I thought. I have no idea how much money these guys save by going cheap on CDs// but it ain't worth it. Spend the extra $22k and charge us an extra dollar. ..and I am quite sure the actual savings are less than $22k per Dave's Pick. That's about 25 cents per blank. Reasonable??

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    DaP2 discs

    All 3 of mine look like new.
    CD1 played flawlessly and so far CD2 has too, Eyes is currently playing.

    6-17-76 CD3, DaP28
    Rhino/GD acknowledged that some of the original discs and the first round of replacements had a defect on the master used for CD production that was detected by some, but not all CD players. My Onkyo DX-C390 6-disc carousel player detected it on both copies, but the 2nd replacement played fine. One of my burners did not detect it on the original when I made my HD backup copy.

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    Yeah, when this came up I looked around a bit and you can find a variety of articles describing the various ways that CDs can fail or "rot" over time.

    WokeUpDead, your experience with DaP 28 sounds pretty similar to mine - I was using a decade old Sony 5 CD player that played all of my other discs flawlessly but I could not get DaP 28 or any of the replacement discs to play without skips. Later on I got another CD player, an Onkyo 6CD player, and DaP 28 played without any problems on that. Still wondering what that's all about.

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    Willy T and the Disc Rot

    uh oh.. Perhaps we are all in trouble..

  • Oroborous
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    Willy T Jones & the Rot

    Sounds like a great band or album name!

  • WokeUpDead
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    No issues with 2012 DaP disks

    As a relatively new rider on the GD bus, I have managed to acquire all of the first year DaP sets on EBay within the past year, all pre-owned and showing varying degrees of wear. I have not noticed any sign of audio degradation or CD player malfunction with any of these. DaP2 has been in heavy rotation recently while anticipating Jai Alai Fronton (worth the long wait!), and unless someone can convince me that the vocal dropout during BIODTL was not part of the original recording then we are definitely good. I am going to go through the others just because it's time to hear them again.

    I also have the infamous Disk 3 glitch on DaP28, which was not remedied by a full set replacement or a replacement disk, but I discovered by accident that it consistently plays without incident in the single-tray recording deck of my CD-R player so I have an effective workaround. I own boatloads of jazz & blues CDs going back to the mid '80s and I just haven't experienced a single disk suddenly going bad. There may be audio differences due to the recording standards and formats of the times, but the media seems to hold up remarkably well. I have had CD players go bad and begin to hiccup on different disks, but my current Sony player has been going strong for 20 years.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Track list is just exactly perfect!

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Yay I got here in time to get one of these Dave's Picks plus a cool T-shirt! Cost is not an issue with my stimulus money! Can't wait to hear the Jai Alai Fronton show in HDCD!!! I wanna learn some jai alai moves too, I could use a new hobby.

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Really looking forward to this one. This is why subscribing is the way to go.

Too soon to request an 80s show for #35?

I've been quarantined for over 5 weeks now. Anything is good news when it comes to music and entertainment.

Hope everyone is staying safe and staying in.

Also...yes...that bonus disc...looks nice.

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Can you really have too much 1974?
No.

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Very happy to see this come alive. We've all been looking forward to this Dark Star since God knows when. I am not familiar with anything else here except for the one and only Let It Rock.

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Only thing that is a bummer about 74, is they only played 40 shows!!!! Daddy I want a golden goose!!! I mean every song from 74!!!!! bob t

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Happy Spring Fellow Heads,

Hope that everyone is holding up well out there. Beautiful spring day in NorCal today.

I love this show. I dove deep in this one years ago when I was really getting into Dead shows. Haven't listed to it in several years. Gonna be a real treat to crank this version on the home system.

Less familiar with the bonus show but great to see that Dave picked all the heavies off of that one for us. Grinning as I right this. Love me some 1974 Grateful Dead.

Listening has been all over the map in these quarantine times. Ejoying the last Dave's pick, jazz of all sorts, a couple of Yo La Tengo Lps, some tasty old time Appalachian discs, etc. Also been enjoying solo guitar music recently. Two artists that I learned about this year that I think others on dead.net would enjoy are Elkhorn and William Tyler. Tylers instrumental guitar pieces are really fantastic.

Peace to you and yours.

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A little bit of gold heading to us during The Great 2020 Shutdown! SpaceBro I could go for an 80s too. In the end, and, when all is said and done, these subscriptions never fail to bring me joy. Thanks Dave and GD.net.

I would want an 80s release from 85 or earlier

86 has little that is Dave's-worthy, unless there were a bunch-in-one, like the BCT run.

87-89 is good and all; 85 or earlier, please.

regardless of my 80s thoughts, I am _psyched_ for 6/23/74 and 6/22/74!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Putting my 2 cents into the convo about what makes a good show, I would like to say I think an exceptional Dead show occurred when the band played rare songs, were on form and cohesive in their playing, and the jams are smooth and unique. I personally love watching shows where the band are goofing around (Copenhagen clowns anyone?) or just smile as they jam really well are gems in their catalog of live shows 💙

Also...I would love to see some solo, acoustic Jerry shows released (my fav is his tour from '82!). And I can't wait for the new Dave's Picks!

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All web-based sound on my laptop is on the blink, so I can't listen to Dave's rap.

Did he drop any hints or just the usual "more greatness to come"?

Definitely looking forward to blasting DaP 34 when it arrives.

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Wall of Sound you say? I'm in too! 😁

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Hey now,
Audio quality is absolutely SUBLIME! Jerry's guitar and vocals on To Lay Me Down are stellar and Bobby''s Weather Report Suite is so fresh -it is def not my era of Dead given I got on Bus in Binghamton in 79 on Brent's first tour, but I will give this a really interesting A rating -sound quality is so hard to improve if the board tapes you started with aren't clear and guessing Jai Lai is small lean venue and so they did not crank sound as boxy rooms (well saw Thorogood in a gym once and could not hear words even) and so it wound up giving a better quality audio..anyway so far so good...thx I am looking forward to mail...thx Dave!

been a while, hope everyone is well during these crazy times.

Can't wait for this one to hit my mailbox. 74 is one of my favorite years and this is one of my favorite shows from that year. Music (and wine) has played a big part in keeping my sanity during quarantine. Between the 76 box set, the dead & co and phish shows being streamed online, and everything in between, live music is one thing I look forward to each day. Bummed I won't be able to see a live band again until god knows when but in the absence of that, these shows really hit the spot.

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Sounds great to these rock-n-roll damaged ears. Keith killing it....All good......

--GratefulGal7277, we need a "Wall of Sound" emoji stat!

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Forgot about "the Beast" -too bad they had to abandon it after Parrish was nearly killed driving over night to Texas (if I recall his memoir correctly)...NEVER had benefit of hearing good old "Wall of Sound." but my college roommate used to talk endlessly about it...i think he saw it in Englishtown show 1976 (lucky boy)...I could have seen Dead back in 1976 and 77 but idiot I was in HS thought Dead was country music...lol--well it was a bit...but not more than a bit...

Dave mentioned at the end, not an exact quote, but close, "See you sometime soon, we will have more announcements coming for other releases later in the year."
This came after he discussed #35, #36 and working on ideas for next year's #37.

I still think this leads to a fall box for this year. But who knows. We already know Workingman's Dead and American Beauty are slated for the anniversary release this year, so what could be the other surprise left for 2020?

Be well folks.

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Hi guys, I'm considering updating my address for this delivery. I worry that the post office won't forward the release. I'm wondering if this is advisable, and also, how do I do it? Thanks in advance, nitecat.

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Early on, I would eat up Dave's release vids. Then I only scrolled to the end to hear whatever tantalizing hint(s) he might drop. After I lost the sound on my laptop, no way I was going to try to lip read.

Aside from WD and AB re-releases (and tasty live '70 material), I would not be greatly surprised if they dished up another (6) June '76 shows.

On my wish list, as always, is more '66-'71 with Pigpen. But close behind is fall '72. I think the 5-6 show box for $150 or less is the sweet spot. I couldn't justify something gargantuan in this period of complete financial uncertainty.

Okay, be well everyone.

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My usual Dark Star listenings happen when I find myself with a half hour or so with absolutely nothing to do and not a thing planned. That's when they seem to sound their best. Needless to say, in the past month I've listened to more Dark Stars than what I would typically listen to in an entire year. Looking forward to including Jai Alai Fronton's (followed by Spanish Jam > US Blues, of course).

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Hey Nitecat - we moved back in September of last year, I had similar anxiety. I contacted deadnet customer service, providing the order number that was in the queue and asked them to confirm the new address back to me after explaining the situation, which they promptly did. Never had to worry, everything has made it to me since. This was in conjunction with completing an online Post Office forwarding notification. You should get an email confirmation from that.

https://www.usa.gov/post-office#item-37197

Be well people.

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P.S. Dead & Co. Summer tour officially canceled. As of this afternoon. Not all that surprised.

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One of the best months in one of the best years. With several shows from earlier, and just past (6/26, 6/28) these two shows already released, I can feel the pull forward from Europe 72.

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I moved twice in 2018 and didn’t have a problem getting my DaPs.
I responded to the order confirmation email for my DaP subscription and gave them my new address each time.

In 2018 3 of 4 DaPs went to different addresses and I didn’t have any problems. Glad it wasn’t 2019 when I moved because I probably wouldn’t have received the last 3 releases.

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Wow, what a treat. We are lucky fans.

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Hey y'all
How do I subscribe to Dave's picks? I want to preorder and also get the extra disc.

The 2020 subscription period is sold out.. the 2021 subscription period starts I think in early November?? and usually runs into late December, early January. ..so it's too late for this year, in fact Dave's Picks 32 (the first of four picks) is long gone already.. Thanksgiving is prime time to order.

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Get on the email list so that you will know when new releases and the DaP subscription are available.
The annoying yellow box that pops up on the lower right corner saying “get on the list” is where you sign up. If you purchase anything from this site you will probably start receiving emails that way too.

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Got 2020 Subscription - Keeping fingers crossed they get this
Volume to me since I didn't get the first one. Please send good vibes my way.
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I saw this release at work today, and was going to jump on and tell everyone how great a show it is, because I have it already, on a decent-sounding unauthorized cd boot I got off ebay or somewhere. I remember spinning it a couple of times in the car, and it always stuck in my mind because that was the venue where Tommy Bolin played his last show opening for Jeff Beck.

Alas, the illegal boot in question is 12/12/78 Jai Alai Fronton. Stellar concert, but... not this.

So I'm totally stoked to get more great sounding 70's Dead. Best decade for everything ever, the 70's. Looks pretty goddamn good these days, doesn't it?

die letzten funf:

Rival Sons - Feral Roots
Rock Candy Funk Party - We Want Groove
Al Di Meola - All Your Life (A Tribute To The Beatles)
Van Halen - Diver Down
The Animals - The Best Of Eric Burdon And The Animals

Not everyone listens to whole albums these days. The lost art of album listening.

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I agree with ICECRMCNKD. Getting a subscription has become the only way to fly. Buy it and forget-about-it. However seeing these "SOLD OUT" banners with-in the first few seconds of the on-sale day is cruel. The Dave's subscription is the equivalent of what "TicketBooks" were in the 80's. Pay one fee and your in every show of the tour. And these were great floor seats in Jerry or Phil zones or in-front-of soundboard or Tapers section, and usually next-to the the same heads every time.

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I was at these shows and have great memories especially from this Sunday show, the second night. I was a student at The University of Miami and these were the first show I went to with my brother, who turned me on to The Dead. I also remember an amusing thing from that night. Leading up to the shows, there were the usual ads on the local FM radio channel announcing the shows. On the ad, they played a few seconds of Truckin' , Sugar Magnolia and one other song. After the show, I turned to two guys behind us and said something like wow wasn't that a great show. They responded "Yeah, but they didn't play any of the songs from the commercial".
Can't wait for my copy to show up. I haven't listened to this show in a while

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I too have been on a listening binge of his stuff. Somebody who knows him used to post here at one time. One of my favs.

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...that would be me. If you haven’t listened to his new album he just released on multiple media sources. Vinyl records, CD and downloads, Tribute to the Beatles! Primo album, al been working on it for a long time now. I’m so happy and grateful to have watched & and heard all the stages of this last album come to be made & released! If your a fan of ALS music or even the Beatles , I highly Recommend seeking this new album out! Have a grateful day 🙏❤️😎

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Fall '72

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First off, Happy Earth Day everyone, looks like the earth is getting a break this earth day, maybe the only good thing about the virus. Being a retired horticulturalist I have planted my share of trees and shrubs and flowers and this virus is not going to stop me from doing what I do every Earth Day, plant another tree. Lately I have been planting fruit trees, apples and cherry and peach, but in the past I have planted many a different kind of tree, from ornamental trees to flowering trees to oak trees, it's all good, they are the front line in keeping the atmosphere clean. I usually buy a tree from a nursery or garden center, but this year, I have started an apple tree from seed and it is now late enough in the year to take her outside and plant her with her other brothers and sisters that I have planted in the past. Yes, it's a little baby, but from this one seed, I will get a beautiful, flowering, fruit producing tree in about 7 years. Seems like a long time, but when I look back at the other trees I have planted, and enjoy the flowers and fruit from them, I know that eventually, this one will also produce flowers and fruit if not for me, for others to enjoy for years to come. It's easy to start a seed, just takes some patience to get it to the planting in the ground stage, but it is worth it when years down the road, you get to bite into that beautiful fruit.
I have had a copy of this Miami show from 74 for years, having lived in Florida for over 38 years, I have seen some shows in a Jai Alai Fronton, just not this show. I caught Little Feat with Lowell in 78 at the Fronton in Orlando, caught U2 when they were unknowns at the same Fronton in 79. The Fronton in Miami is the largest one still operating and seats about 5100 people. What a great place to see a show and I can imagine this show was a real killer. The playing area is surrounded by 3 very tall walls and the audience looks on from the side with the front of the court being to the audiences right and the back of the court to their left. The three sides of the court are padded which makes for great sound acoustics. Back in the 70's I knew some guys in the service who bet on these players and they had a system. They would watch the players, they would give "tells" of who would win and in what order by bouncing the ball in sequences like 2 bounces, then hold, then 3 bounces, etc... They had spotters in the audience that would take these ques an run with them to the betting window and place their bets, winning some pretty good sums of money. If you knew these guys, you could get in on the fix, if not, it was all just luck to pick a winner and very seldom did a novice win. How my friends did it was they would watch the audience and the betting window, usually these spotters would come up and bet at the last possible minute and if you were behind them in line, you placed the same bet as they did. Worked for my friends more than 50% of the time. Of course, that was 40 some years ago and most of those old cheaters are long gone now. It was a very fast game and it could be over before you knew it, just that fast sometimes. That ball was very hard and if it hit you, you knew it, hence the Cesta was made out of wicker and had a padded glove on the inside to take the sting out of fielding that ball. Saw a few players get hit with the ball, you could tell it hurt, it would put those guys on the ground. After a while, the sport lost it's charm for me and I quit going, but it was fun for a while. I prefered concerts in those little arenas ever since. This is a killer show, and the bonus disc is the cherry on top, and that limited edition t shirt is very nice, love the back design. This shirt will sell out in no time, along with the remaining discs. I highly recommend this show and the shirt, get them while you can.

Did Rhino find the right number of copies, or is there 74 burn-out because of the PNW Box?

Well, if that 80’s pick for DaP35 sells out right away we’ll know that it is 74 burn-out.

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