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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3121
    DeadVikes
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    76 is such an interesting year for the Dead. So many great shows and yet so many songs not played until 77 or 78.
    This show is great and like Jim I like the Lazy Lighting Supplication. Was this the last Cosmic Charlie? Nice St. Stephen NFA.

    What's next?

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    I've been enjoying that one ever since it was featured on 30 Days of Dead. You're right, it's at least a top 10, if not top 5 for me.

    9/25 is an absolute classic with the Grateful Dead transcending through some tough times. I think Rex Jackson had recently passed away suddenly and unexpectedly.

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    It is....
    ...thought we were going 74 lol, but ole DV called an Omaha audible at the line, which is nice, because 76 sounds better to me, as 74 is too close to the box stuff, and no offense to anyone, but I’m still kinda burnt on pre hiatus stuff, so 76 sounds good!
    I’ve been really digging the 91/81 self imposed cleanse/distraction, but 76 will be a nice cleanse from the cleanse lol.

    Speaking of 91/81, finished my 91 quota for now, and with the completion of 3/23/81 and 3/24/81 I only have 3/28 left which I hope to get to tonight or tomorrow...

    But first I must praise these last 2 Looooondon Rainbow shows as they are stellar! They seemed to get a little better each night of this run, with a big step up on the 23rd. Overall great show, with the tours only Bird Song, set opener no less, Lay Me Down, cool Playing and jam, continued into the other one, Stella etc, and a rare Casey Jones! Sweet!

    The 24 first set is awesome cept for the cowboy Bob BS, sorry, had to skip that, but is more than made up for with otherwise good set list.
    SHAKEDOWN!...whether you listen to this show or not, YOU MUST! check out this Shakedown!!
    I can’t believe I’ve never heard or heard about this one...everyone goes on about the next show, which is a good Shakedown, and I’ll be comparing as soon as I get a good chance, but I don’t recall 3/28 being this good?
    From there they keep ascending until He’s Gone, which is ok, but perhaps too much of a pressure drop?
    Fun drums, into wheel, and Trucking, but then status quo enders...
    Nice false start Brokedown to round it all out!
    If you dig 81, I think you’ll really enjoy these 2 shows!

    Ok next up 9/25/76!
    Next after?, ...Probably hit the other half and that Essen show...

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    Love that release.. fall '76 has some good stuff. Check out Jerry's work in the Supplication Jam.

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    That is great Bluecrow. Might be a good story for liner notes at some point in time.

    Funny, I was just listening to Dick's #12 this week.

    Of course I would love to see an October Winterland Box with video released, however, not sure they would go back to that again.
    If they ever did, it would rival the sell out time of GSTL.

    Looking at 9/25/76 Capital Centre for today. The first half of Dick's #20. Need some 76, it has been a while. Hope you all can join me on this one.

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    mhammond had it right many years ago. He called for a WOS box.. box up all the remaining '74's and give us a box.

    I have to say, although the great ones are gone, it's not too late. We could have said the same thing about 1972 before we got the trunk.. I mean, they did release a good portion of this and decided for the box and re-released the already released ones for good measure.

    Give us WOS Box Set Dave.. and include 2/22 and 2/23 as bonus discs.

    (true confession, I love 1974 GD)

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    Nice story BlueCrow

    I suspect that the remaining 74’s will trickle out as DaP’s.
    Too few remaining to Box ‘em up.
    Need them for subscription bait.

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    Oo oo oo, mr Kotter!
    Yasssss, that sounds like a good start today!
    Then imma gonna continue on with Spring Europe 81, believe I’m up to3/23/81?

    74 you say?
    Perhaps we should do some mañana for a little FAC?...

    Yas WTJ, what will be next indeed?
    I say he trickles a couple more biggies out, and then lumps what’s left, pieces and all into a “74” box....

    7/25/74 is the big dog on paper, though I think I recall liking 5/25/74 better, but ya know how that goes situationally etc. 6/20/74 certainly should be near the top of a 74 list....I thought 5/12 and 6/8 were ok, 7/12 I don’t recall, though I’ve heard it? Ya know something will happen with the February shows....the rest I’m not familiar with?

    BCROW: cool story! Thanks for sharing.

    JIM: “I felt 3’ tall and just wanted it to stop” lol...I remember my first time after like 12 hours or more, eventually at least lying in bed wishing I could fall asleep, and thinking “hmmmm, so this is what they mean by your either on the bus or off”, thinking it wasn’t ever going to fully go away and thus I’d be “on the bus” forever lol, and wasn’t sure yet how I felt about that?
    Eventually I think I finally was able to go to sleep. The jury’s still out on the rest...

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    a quick story related to this show. - I didn't attend but a funny thing happened a "few" years later. if i already shared this story here in the fog of the last year and a half, i apologize.

    ca. 1997 i had recently relocated in the desert southwest, off the beaten path. one other deadhead that I knew of in that tiny town. one night he mentioned a river running buddy of his from Flag had dropped off a list of shows he had to trade would I be interested? On that list was an audience of 7-25-74, International Amphitheatre, graded a C+. It was a '74, i grew up near Chi-Town, of course I asked for that. One night a few weeks later the friend of a friend stops in town briefly and he and I got to talk outside under the desert night sky for a few minutes before he continued down the road.

    he had, in fact, taped the show (from the balcony?) - yes it was "his" tape, and i think the only show he ever taped. he was proud of it, myth time, stars in his eyes thinking about that show. i can't remember most anything he told me except that he was seriously d*sed (by someone close to the band?) and the ship of fools encore was absolutely righteous.

    listening to it I'd say a C+ grade was generous (of course it was his baby.) but you could hear the music and get into the headspace. I dubbed a copy and sent it to a friend back in Chicago (his day job was at Dr. Wax.) a few weeks later I got an excited letter from him. he had reached out to some folks in one of the elite tape trading forums and found out that there were no tapes of this show known to be in circulation. none. zip. zero. a big goose egg. and so not only a non-circulating '74 but also a non-circulating '74 Dark Star (or DS jam for some) and in that there was a Slipknot tease. so this obscure tape caused something of a stir. the folks who were putting together the first volume of the Deadheads Taping Compendium wanted my friend to write a review for the first edition but then decided it was too late to get it in (already in galley i guess.) my buddy was able to trade it for some pretty cool stuff at the time. years later the board finally began to circulate, its in the vault and parts of it have been featured in Jam of the Week, the taping section, 30 days of the dead. but not clear if it was in the vault way back in '97.

    so yeah, Dave. L, release the 7/25/74 hounds also!

    and 2/22 and 2/23 absolutely need to see the light of day sooner rather than later

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    I'd add 2/22 and 2/23. Man... why didn't they do a Winterland '74 Box Set?

    I can't believe how many 74's have been released and how few we have left. I did a quick count.. of the 40 shows performed that year, 28 have either been released or partially released (I did this really quickly, I missed be off by a show or two). This means only 12 are not already in the ether? And a few of these are not ready for prime time.

    Still.. a few gems to see the light, love your list Wilfred.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 06:56

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Cool! This is a pick that I have not spun since its release. I am not a huge fan of 78 in general (though the July Box is great,) but I remember thinking that this one was better than I was expecting. Anyway, I am looking forward to diving in and giving it some fresh ears! If I recall, I preferred the 1st set to the 2nd on this one, but I'll reassess today.

BOLO - I threw my (most likely erroneous) hat in the ring and sent you a PM.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 07:03

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I've never heard that before! That made a really nice warm-up for the day, making coffee, and watching the sun come out listen! Thank you! I especially loved the "Gomorrah" - what a gorgeous tune and what a great version!

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GRATEFULGAL7277 - Thanks for suggesting Jerry's only solo acoustic show! I plan to give that a spin today for sure.

Bootleg notes.. A lone voice in the crowd shouts out "Maestro" and that about sums it up!

Supposedly Jerry was terrified and never did it again, the show fills a nice gap in a hot Spring '82 GD tour.. Bob & Jerry would play Letterman together 3 nights later. Love this stuff!

I'm with OTIS - '78 can run pretty hot or cold and the set lists tend to be a bit pedestrian, I don't think I gave this release a lot of attention, it probably got a listen and then I moved on to the next thing.

But from the sounds of the Opening Bertha > Good Lovin' through.. I'm up to Tennessee Jed, this sounds like a hot one! I think most of April is real good?!?

It's gonna be a good day to listen to the Dead!

PS - BOLO24 did you get my guess?
I tried to send a PM with my Fixable Foot Show Guess, being new at this participation thing and all, message system is kinda hooky... Can't tell if it got sent to you or not?

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 07:58

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Bertha> Good Love rocks, Candyman LLR was nice, rest of set 1 was just okay,

Lazy Supp. nice jam, Estimated>Eyes was nice, Drums into NFA love that, Wharf Rat Sugar Mag
OMSN blow out.

Nashville is a fine choice for a revisit, anniversary no less! Cool cover art also, psychedelic river boat and Wharf Rat. Anybody looking for an excellent paddlewheel side trip should take a listen to the album Mark Twang by the late great John Hartford. Gratefulgal - def will check out the solo Jerry show. I saw tail end of a Garcia & Kahn show a couple months later at Auditorium Theater in Chicago. Rowdy happy crowd. End of show, people yelling for Jerry to play Ripple. Then someone yells out loud and clear -"Play what you want!" Jerry looks up, says "Thank you!" and then plays Ripple! As to "Fixable Foot" - i got nothing Bolo.

I'm glad you enjoyed. I love the Gomorrah as well! I think the announcer saying "This is a rare musical experience" is very true for this show. Going Going Gone is also hauntingly beautiful.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 08:37

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....i provided two guesses. Both wrong. I have no idea.
Working today, so unable to listen to the physical Nashville, so firing up a Miller SB of the Archive.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 08:43

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Rare Musical Experience indeed!

I think that's John Scher (promoter) doin' that introduction.

There's a couple of videos of Rubin & Cherise (Spelling seems to be subjective) & Ripple floating around on the interwebs.. They'll definitely bring a smile to your face.

Jerry!

I wonder if the whole set / both sets video is out there somewhere?

I'm diggin' this! Thanks for the tip..

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:04

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I sent a reply to your PM - I hope that it went through this time. I don't know what happened to the first one.

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Submitted by gr8fulgal77 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:05

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Thank you so much! So cool to see Jerry playing! That song is one of my favs from that set so that was a real treat!

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Submitted by gr8fulgal77 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:06

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I sent my answer in last night! I can't wait to see what show it is, such an interesting hint!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:13

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Synchronicity

Thanks for the mention > triggered some research > stumbled on video > had to share.

Love that song too, and haven't heard this show in years and years.. so good!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:25

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Yay Work! The economy needs you.

Let us know what you listen too.. maybe we'll join you.

Not working & shit, but in spirit you know?

BTW Miller has been dropping some nice Don Pearson Cassette Master Upgrades lately... there's some freshies out there! Especially if you like 1989, 90 & 91... 9/26/91 comes to mind.. I know that run gets pretty panned by history and in McNally's book, but I dug that show the other day... for '91 sounded pretty sweet.

Best wishes.

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Submitted by pkb on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:24

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I sent my guess to your inbox. This is my first time sending a message, so I hope I did it correctly.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:47

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Me too, Looks like PM aren't working.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:54

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Rocking Bertha>Good Lovin! Very nice Candyman (what a great song! This version is stellar.) Donna sounding great on LLR. Tenn Jed - why so sllllooooowwww? It is such a great tune, but at this pace, it is a bit of a bore. Jack Straw is pretty standard, Peggy-O is always welcome, and this one is pretty good- Jerry's singing is solid. Minglewood is high-energy, rock-star Weir, and Deal closes things out nicely. Overall, I enjoyed it... It does get dragged down in the middle of the set with Tenn Jed serving as the the third "slow" tune in a row, then followed by an average Jack Straw and another slow tune Peggy-O. Miglewood and Deal bring the energy back up, but neither are "must-hear" versions, IMO. Overall, a solid 7/10.

"That's it, we quit." Sounded like Bob was actually kinda pissed!

Now onto Set II...

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:58

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I received a PM from Bolo saying that he did not get my original, so it looks like PMs are working (at least in some capacity.)

I replied to his PM, but have yet to hear anything. I think my problem was that the site didn't recognize that I had sent the message to Bolo. The original is in my Messages folder, but I am the only recipient. I know that I typed his username into the "To:" portion, but for some reason, it didn't register.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:59

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In honor of our newest release, do to ship in a week may I suggest
a trip to June '74 with Dick's Picks Vol 12. 6/26 - 6/28 1974.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:04

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PM Resent, this one includes you on the thread.. so I think it worked.

LMK and Thanks!
Best,
The GOGD

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:06

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I like the idea of some '74 pre-partying.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:14

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Have now received the missing messages.

No winner yet, although That's Otis was on the right track - he just needed to try a "little bit harder, just a little bit more, a little bit further than he gone before."

EDIT: No, "The Wheel" isn't in the setlist.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:28

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Thanks Bolo24!

Dang it.. I knew my attempt was weak 😬 🌹⚡️🌈

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:20

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Garcia's solos on virtually every song of that JGB 91 release were immaculate. Whether slow, fast, bluesy or funky, each song was performed darn near flawlessly. Melvin and David were beasts on their respective instruments, with the ladies adding beauty to the vocal palette. A great latter-day release!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:39

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Had not listened to this show in a long time. Also on my iPod . Lazy Lightning - Supplication was exciting.
Happy Earth Day 50 today. Was at Central Park bandshell for first Earth Day celebration 50 years ago when I 16. Saw the Jefferson Airplane play a free concert a few weeks later at the same venue.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:48

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Hiya Bolo! Sent another PM your way... (fingers crossed!)

Set II for today's listen has been delayed (how is it that I seemingly have more work when I am not at work?!?) Anyway, about to walk the pups and start dinner. Set II will have to be my cooking jams for the night :)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 14:04

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Dave's Picks #15. One more Saturday night in Nashville. Damn right! Like Otis and Strider, I don't listen to this one often, but I should. I usually pull 4/24/78, Dave's #7.
But this wonderful exercise is forcing me to listen to these shows again in full.

Nice first set, yes Otis, that New Minglewood blues really rocks. Bob definitely kicked it up a notch on this one.
I have to say I really like Deal, however, this version and other 78 versions with Donna's high pitch squeal of Deal, just makes me want to turn it off. Sounds like yodeling.
Second set is sweet, great start and I like the Estimated, but Jerry kind of wanders a bit in these 78 versions. Really good Eyes, love the Wharf Rat and great finish with Sugar Magnolia and One More Saturday Night.

These picks have been fun for me people. Thanks!

I think Conekid maybe had some suggestions for next picks? I have a few more as well, but I will wait until others get some more in.

Oh, one more thing, I believe we will be getting another early April 78 release soon.

Be well folks!

Edit, sorry I didn't see Dicks #12. Rats, another one I don't have.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 14:43

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At this point, it's fairly apparent that the odds of someone solving this riddle based on the sole clue provided are pretty low. On a positive note, some of the guesses have been quite clever and somewhat entertaining!

So, below you'll find a further (furthur?) clue. A consolation prize will go to the first accurate guess. I'll save the better goodies for a future giveaway. Again, show your work, one guess per screen name.

Here it is:

2 word anagram, no leftover letters.

Good luck!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 15:49

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"guesses have been quite clever and somewhat entertaining!"

Bolo, I bet you pissed your pants when you saw my answer.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:05

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....holee shit Garcia! Tell us how you really feel!! As Jim Carrey said in The Mask, "Smokin!!"

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:48

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I'm still trying to figure out Liberace on a ostrich running in a garbage dump in Virginia from last year... I guess i need easier clues, like Alpine Valley is in this state!!! Just kidding... bob t

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:55

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Yeah Deadvikes, the pick I was holding on to is 8-13-75. I was looking for a reason to listen to the vinyl copy I have.
But we don’t have to listen to it this week.
Alternatively, maybe we need to throw in a more modern show at this stage of the game. Say, something with Bruce?
Maybe spiced up with some Branford in honor of his father being taken by Covid?
9-10-91 for tomorrow?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 17:05

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....what was up with that clue last year involving Liberace??
EDIT. 9.10.91 for Thursday? Okee-dokey. I'm easy to please.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 17:52

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Milton the Toaster was a spokesman! Just kidding i have not even come close to guessing a riddle of yours.... be safe everyone... bob t

Well..... That narrows it down.

Narrows it down to what show?
I, for one, do not know.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 19:14

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I can think of at least six shows that fit this bill. The US Festival in 82.. a few Fillmore East shows, Sunsplash '82 and of course the Closing of Winterland just to name a few. None of them contain fixable feet anagrams though.

I think all the clues are carefully documented if you take a magnifying glass and do a deep dive on Blotter Art. That's all I've got. Be safe all.

http://www.key-z.com/special.html

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 22:18

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So, as the whole family is extremely fortunate and working from home and going to school, my 11 year had a very asoute observation. I have been working in our basement and playing a ton of GD. I don't do the headphones due to fear of hearing issues (yes, might be old lame reasoning). "Your music is so loud and annoying." Of course I said, "No it is not and if it was why do you always dance every time you hear it and sing along?"

"I don't like it, it is just stuck in my head."

For AJS and Carlo, Jerry! Jerry Garcia!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 04:17

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Grateful Dead music is highly infectious before you no it you can have symptoms like singing out loud dancing around collecting massive amounts of live shows.

ps. 6/28/74 To Lay Me Down last Jam almost blew my walls out.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 07:41

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About to fire it up.

Deadvikes, don’t let those kids push you around.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 07:55

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https://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-10.mtx.amdig.gems.98132.flac16/gd…
....just started. At work again today, so i will be pausing it here and there, but I'll make in though.
On a side note, the mayor of Las Vegas embarrassed the shit out of herself and our city during an interview on CNN yesterday. Holy cow. I just put both my hands in my head and shook it. Technically, i live in Henderson, so she's not MY mayor. Lol.
Avatar changed accordingly for todays listen.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 08:40

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Hey there!

I've enjoyed reading the back and forth and tripping through these live Dead picks. It's like a smorgasbord:)

Follow Up on Yesterdays listening & comments:
4/22/78 - I agree with everything you all been laying down in regards to that pick and don't have anything better to add, nice work! It was fun to dust it off.. I think it might get dusty again.

4/10/82 - Jerry Acoustic, man is that a treat! Both sets, so intimate and special, flawed and personal. Kinda like the maestro himself a multi-faceted jewel.

I took a detour along the route to today and I'd highly recommend it -
4/22/77 - What a killer show!

After tripping through June '76 box set & DiP V20 - 9/25 & 9/28/76 followed by DaP V15 - 4/22/78 this show lands right in the middle and gives them a run for their money.

The 1st show of the legendary Spring Tour, an AMAZING 20 minute PITB to close Set 1, The 2nd ever FOTM, 1st ever Mojo. It's definitely worth the trip. And... it's so cool to hear the difference between 1976 & 1978. Ever changing ever evolving. It's the same band, but it's not. Check out the solo in IMHBTR (playing right now), wow Good Stuff! The launching point for some of their most legendary shows that will follow in the next coming weeks. This show feels like it's a bit off the radar, can't remember really settling into it before, probably collected in a fever to get everything and.... well check it out!

Alright, sounds like today is packed with more good listening suggestions -
1991-09-10 - 30 Trips
1974-06-26 & 1974-06-28 - DiP V12

I've got my work cut out for me, but I'm hip to the challenge.

Be Well you all and keep the good times rolling!