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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #871
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    Dogs

    How Dogs Became Man’s Best Friend

    A story told by some Native American peoples is that the Great Spirit decided to divide the worlds of animals and man.
    He gathered all the living beings on a great plain and drew a line in the dirt.
    On one side of the line stood man and on the other side stood all of the animals of the earth.
    When that line began to open up into a great canyon and at the last moment
    Before it became too great to cross, the dog jumped over and stood by man.
    – Unknown -

    Give a man a fire and he’ll be warm for the day.

    Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life

  • #872
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    luckily...

    I have had next to no interactions with police.

    One speeding ticket when I was young and dumb
    one pullover for ???
    one pullover because I changed lanes too fast.

    "so much things to say right now"...but dead.net isn't really the place.

    just BE KIND and respect your fellow human beings, my people.

  • #873
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    my sense is that the blackout...

    is to halt business as usual and think deeply about current affairs, and keep thinking, and act.

  • #874
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    Blackout, Dogs, and Cops

    BLACKOUT: had no clue....it was fine, just wish they would have announced it. Hopefully it helped make a difference!
    It did inform me that perhaps I’m obtaining a bit of a addiction here lol.

    DOGS: love most animals, especially Dogs, it’s people I tend to have problems with. Some Dogs people will say “careful, their not nice, or their not friendly”....me, they love me! Go figure...real unconditional love, loyalty honesty...always glad to see you...amazing.
    I’ve had a Irish setter that was really smart and well trained, a Lab/Husky, and lived for 5 years at a place with the best, smartest, mellowest Golden Mutt ever. This dog would look at you and you felt like perhaps they were a person last go round and now their stuck in this dog body lol. The dog would basically telepath it wanted to go out. Living where we did that meant just opening the door and letting her go. When she wanted to come back in, she would bark once. Then she would wait patiently. If no one let here in within five minutes, she’d bark again just once. Amazing dog! Oh, and she loved the Dead and music in general. I Played music with her owner and she loved to come curl up at your feet on stage while the band was playing! Owner was tight with LOS and she would do that sometimes at their gigs too!
    Labs and Golden’s are awesome, but they need room and a lot of exercise. Both are fun and can be great partners and both usually have good personalities. Their usually really good with kids. But dogs, like people, definetly have personalities so it’s usually best if you can spend time or get to know them before you have to choose. My last Dog was a lab/Husky mutt and I immediately liked him out of the rest of the large litter....because the crazy little guy was already slipping away from mama and getting into stuff at four weeks old, lol. You could tell right then and there he was going to be a handful, named him Aiko because he had that vibe..hey now! Here i come, wuff!
    He was a handful when he was young, but eventually became an awesome well behaved companion.

    TIPS: get them fixed ASAP before they know what there missing etc, I didn’t for over a year and it was a big mistake....since he was fully mature by then and had “gotten some”, so it took years for him to calm down that way even after he’d been fixed. Be prepared to spend A LOT of time that first year. If you wait too long it’s much harder to get good results. You’ll thank yourself because there is nothing better than a life with a cool, mellow, behaved happy dog, and nothing worse than a bad untrained dog. Preferable to get your pup after they’ve been wormed.....
    Insurance. Currently don’t have any pets but my understanding is nowadays you really need insurance....
    Chewing: they do like to chew stuff up. I used crochet balls and old 2x4s. He’d instantly chew anything else up (until older) he couldn’t get enough jaw on the crochet balls and the 2x4s it didn’t matter that he’d shred them, at least they’d last a little while and were free so didn’t matter.
    All dogs can be overprotective and act out. Every dog I’ve ever lived with or known for long has done it at least once, Usually it was just a weird situation and often not all the dogs fault, but it can happen.
    Also, poop! You will be dedicating the next 10-15 years to endless poop; worming, cleaning up, walking, sickness etc.
    In other words, it’s a big decision because it’s a big responsibility! Unfortunately that’s why we don’t have a dog anymore; our lifestyle is not organized and scheduled for the proper care of a dog, and Pedro doesn’t pick up poop, so though I miss not having one, it’s because it wouldn’t be fair to the mutt and I just don’t want all that responsibility these days. Sounds like you have a family to help which can make a big difference and it can be great responsibility learning for a young person. A life with a good dog can be one of the greatest experiences in life, but man is it hard when they go. I’ve lost my folks, all my grandparents, most of my aunts and uncles, even a few friends, but I think losing a good dog that you were really tight with and had a good life with can sometimes be harder. I still get pretty upset if I start thinking too much about missing those guys. I’m getting misty just talking about it...

    COPS: I’ve had a few good experiences with reasonable, polite, and respectful ones, but unfortunately I’ve had more terrible experiences. Leddead your Denver buddies being some of the worst!
    Years ago after a Phil and Phreinds show at the Philmore, I had 4 or 5 beers over the course of several hours, but stopped more than 3 hours before leaving. This is a system I’ve used based on science for years. Basicallly, get a little buzz early, then stop so by the time you leave your totally fine (legally and otherwise).
    So I take the back street behind the Philmore to avoid all the lights on Colfax, and then cut back over near DT so I could get to the expressway etc. Well as I’m not familiar or good in the city, and my night vision sucks, I made a right on red at a place I wasn’t supposed to. Cop is sitting there hiding in an alley just waiting for this. So she pulls me over, and of course asks if I’ve been drinking. Since I knew I was legal etc I said I had a few, a few hours ago. I know, that’s what everyone says, but it was true. So next thing you know there’s a half dozen cops most of which are trying to mess with me and get me to do something stupid so they can mess with me. One even stepped on my toe while getting so close to my face he was spitting on me while he screamed at me. I was never so scarred in my life. Luckily, I know how to act around wild animals so I just stayed calm and was overly polite the whole time. So I take the so called sobriety tests that I can’t pass if it’s first thing on Tuesday and I’m more sober than a baby. It’s a proven fact these tests are designed for failure.
    So of course I fail and they arrest me even though I’ve still not taken a breathalyzer which I’ve been asking to do the whole time. Now I’m pretty beat up for my age, and I’ve had reoccurring shoulder problems, and it’s extremely painful for me to ware the jewelry behind my back which is standard practice for officer safety. So I try to very calmly and politely explain this to the Women cop who originally pulled me over as she was the ONLY one of the posse that wasn’t being intimidating, obnoxious, rude, or trying to violate my rights. But as soon as I did, the brutes slammed me up against my truck and hurt me so bad putting the cuffs on I was crying out in pain. Luckily the ride was short as I was in severe agony.
    So we get to the compound and go into an armored door underground garage. So before we go in the officer has to put her weapons etc in a locker in the garage area. So now she starts getting nervous about taking her hands off me while she attends to this protocol (they don’t want you grabbing their weapon after they take the cuffs off inside).
    So since she’s now alone she’s not comfortable etc and has me stand on the other side of this fortress garage and says don’t go anywhere....so I’m like Mam, im over fifty years old, mostly broken, I’m in extreme agony here cuffed behind like this, what am I going to do, some acrobatic Kung fu shit and fly over there and bite you in the neck because I made an illegal right on red? Kinda like Arlo Guthrie LOL, but it helped reassure her and she actually smiled a little.
    So next it’s this whole long convoluted process to book you and get mug shots etc and I’ve still not had the test. Meanwhile there are now new Neanderthals circled around trying to get me to give them any reason at all to mess with me. At some point they tell me I have to sign shit which lawyer friends say never sign anything! So I politely mention this and before I even finish they start telling me I’m now failing to comply and refuse the test (which I never did) and how I just lost my license and all kinds of other screaming and carrying on until they finally shut up enough so I say, look, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to know what your asking me to sign. So he takes the paper and jams it in my face so close it’s touching my face. Another inch and he would of basically hit me. Now I’m even more scarred...finally, after more threats, screaming, insults, intimidation etc, I get to take the test. Now I’m still not worried about DUI cause I know I’m not illegal etc, but I am worried about getting beat. Again this whole time I’ve never raised my voice. I’ve only spoken when asked to, and I’ve used only Sir, Mam, Officer etc and been extremely polite and respectful. So I take the test and of course barely register any alcohol like less then .001, .08 is the legal limit....but this nut doesn’t believe it so recalibrated the machine and made me blow multiple times, including putting his face next to mine and screaming at me that I’m not blowing hard enough (like a drill Sargent) even though I’m literally out of breath and panting etc...
    Finally the original gal that stopped me (who’s been totally proffesional the whole time) says “enough, he’s good, I’m letting him go and taking him back.” We’ll they have to go through the whole convoluted process in reverse to sign all my stuff back out including my tour laminate (was not looking forward to notifying my cousin that the cops now have full access)...so while this is happening, they take one last run at me trying to get me to give them ANY reason to mess me up and lock me up, all because I failed to obey a traffic sign I never saw...
    This is just one story, I have several others where I wasn’t as worried about being beat, but I did have my rights totally violated, so my 2 cents is that I’m scarred shitless anytime I have to deal with cops. It didn’t used to be as bad, my experiences have gotten worse over the years and I’m white, I’ve never done anything bad (I don’t believe minor drug stuff is bad) and I’ve never actually been convicted with anything except speeding, yet in the last ten years or so anytime I’ve been pulled over I’ve immediately become extremely scarred, nervous, anxious and worried for my safety. If these cops are all so good and there’s only a few bad apples, why should generally law abiding citizens be scarred for their life during even a routine traffic stop (last time had a company truck with tail bulbs out)? Another example, car searches: they rarely did them in the old days, now, it’s almost like standard practice...they used to have to follow the constitution....
    Imagine how our brothers and sisters of color feel....
    We have a serious systemic problem with the recruitment, training, and oversight of our law enforcement in our police state of a so called free democracy. Be careful out there folks....like Kerouac said “avoid authority, go through life like a ghost”

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    you made me check on Robb Johnson, I have none, I want. Amazon has a 5 cd set called "A Reasonable History of Impossible Demands". (I'd want it just for that title!) Used, it's an ok price. Anyone familiar with said album?

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    Simon-no I had no idea what was happening on this website yesterday until someone told me in an email. I am obviously following what is happening on the news, but I never came across any references to social networks-or whatever this is-closing for the day. It almost felt as though they were stopping discussion on the subject by their action. So...an act of protest. I would never have known it if I hadn't been told. I'm not sure what "going black" for the day is supposed to achieve.

  • #877
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    Colin - PERFECT!

    Thick, Rich, White!!!

    Still laughing, but will work that bad boy in, somewhere!

  • #878
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    T.I.H.

    Dead-Shoreline amp. mountain view 6/3/76. Max creek-Capital theater 6/3/89. You could almost find as much acid at max creek gigs as the dead in the 80s. Whew, is it safe to come out now?

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    Two that I like, both from Half Man Half Biscuit lyrics:

    “You’re the reason that Paradise Lost”
    “The light at the end of the tunnel is the light of an oncoming train”

    Perhaps a little simplistic but a lyric from Robb Johnson about an earlier Tory government
    “They’re the cream of the nation. Thick, Rich, White”

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    Quote a Day Board!

    I just read somewhere further down someone suggested a quote a day board (sorry forget who), but I thought what a great idea!

    Here's an mean one to start off

    I kept it in a cage, watched it weeping, but I made it stay. - Kate Bush

    :-)

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 07:07

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I'm IN, thanks! Are you referring to Archive.org, or is there some special place I should be going?

Hendrix, thanks for the PM.

Dang. I glanced too quickly at the Miami shirt and thought it was lightly-colored and one-sided. Now that I REALLY look at it, I want it, but need a Medium (Sold Out). Interesting that Mediums and 2x XL sell out first . . . everyone has gone completely one way or the other? :) And NOW I see the sweet astrological hoodie, which of course is GONE in Medium. Oh well. I do have a Medium brown Garcia hand shirt on the way, along with GarciaLive 13.

I hope that instead of the "remnants" from the partially-released shows that we receive other goodies from the Vault. I don't need to hear all the Me & My Uncles that Dick left behind. But I would love some '60s, '80s, and '90s sprinkled in hither and yon. The Grateful Dead is like a lifelong relationship/marriage: the beginning is always the hottest, but is sometimes messy and foundering, and the later years can be awfully sweet if one does not go into them expecting the fire of the early days. One cannot expect things to feel the same every day, and wouldn't it be boring if it did?

As long as the release is from the Jerry era, it's fine by me.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 08:20

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Meh. Missed opportunities.. pint glasses, decent t-shirts (and by decent I mean upgrade the quality two notches above the thin, flimsy, almost see through ill-fitting t's), coffee mugs, Tervis tumblers.. all these things would sell more.

Perhaps my favorite two items from dead.net besides pint beer glasses are my long out of print Morning Brew, double-walled, sealed, stainless steel coffee mug and this killer skull and roses Tervis tumbler glass. The stainless insulated mug for hot coffee, the Tervis tumbler for iced coffee. (Yes, I drink a lot of coffee. ... got to run, looks like I missed my 11 am mandatory twitching session)

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 08:25

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Would be nice the sbds from this run sound good.

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Submitted by musicnow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 08:26

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Thanks for the "Quacking" duck story! Being laid off and stuck at home, this really put a smile on my face. Sure do love that show too.

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Submitted by rusty string on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:47

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here in Southern Germany.
Ordered the June 1976 box late in March (after release date). Received shipping notice a while ago.
Also waiting for DaP 34, subscription.
And for GarciaLive 13. Ordered it via local record shop.
And for "Good Old Boys" 2-disc set. Ordered it via German mailorder (said "in stock" but missing in first parcel).
The race is on. Lots of good things to come in a dreadful time.
Might start watching the 93 show tonight but stream won't start before half past midnight here. Stay safe!

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Submitted by RV3 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:48

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Perhaps #34 not selling out in the longest amount of time yet is telling us something.....it's just getting a little long in the tooth with mid-1970s releases. As great as Betty may have recorded the pre-1979 shows, most setlist & sound for each year is the same(imho). Just time to switch gears with the DP series to the 1980s, plenty of good sounding shows in that period, and so what if recordings aren't quite the recording level of betty boards. 7/13/84 PLEAS

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:38

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Looks like it is sold out now, still before the release date. Seems like they might have hit the sweet spot where folks purchasing individual releases have a couple of days to get an order in before it sells out, but they don't have to store unsold product after the release date. The first year of Dave's Picks they released 12,000 and they have incrementally increased production just about every year since, up to the current 22,00. You have to figure at some point they are gonna get to the saturation point.

I guess its open to debate why this is the case. From where I am sitting, the most likely reason is that people aren't ordering things through the post as much at the moment due to this crisis. I have drastically cut down on what I order - I am only inviting things to get pushed through my letter box that I really need-soap-stuff like that. It seems my friends over here in England are doing the same. Not wanting to give postal workers undue exposure to germs-or myself.

I did break this rule last week, I must confess, ordering a Quicksilver cd - but I am a lot more reticent about ordering stuff now than I was a month ago.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 12:04

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Boy, that sure sold out fast compared to the last one.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 13:05

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Dap 34 or shipping notices have not shipped out to anyone yet. I'm sure you know that, also received 3 months ago a reply from dead.net that you cant go to the warehouse itself and get them. You get used to these claims after awhile. Peace dude. P.S.- 1/2/70 Dap 30 sounds even better after a break of 2 months. Keithfan- I'm glad you told that story but you should have waited till tonight to make it a bedtime story. Next you can read the story of goldilocks and the 3 bears. Right on keith.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 13:11

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Yeah, I too am always confused by those particular posts...

1/2/70 you say? Hmm... might be a good suggestion for the pick of the day. It has been a while :)

Peace

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 13:16

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...is getting it's due in a few short hours:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/grateful-dead-shakedown-s…

I'm not familiar with this one, but I did an exceptionally quick peek at the setlist (so as to still have surprises along the way....the best way) and it looks pretty f'n good.

Collective Conscious Viewing Opportunity.

Be well, All.
Sixtus

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 13:22

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I sez YES

That and my first show are the jackpot shows for me. I am glad beyond words how much I am glad I was able to attend.

I am not burned on the 70s _at all_. Something from the early to mid 80s would be welcome. but no complaints from me.

if you need a palette cleanse at the moment, Melvins "Stoner Witch" at volume 11 is my suggestion.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 15:15

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It's definitely the 22k release number combined with the volume of high quality shows released. This is what.. the 200+ show to be released? I love 80's GD, so don't take this as a swipe.. but if they released four 80's shows in a row, then rolled into the next years subscription, things would NOT sell out faster, the subscription might still be available.. There's lots of secondary data to support this, just look at the resale value on eBay and stratify this by the era / year of the show and don't forget to factor in the number produced (12k, 14k, 16,500, etc). I think the previous poster knows this and is just getting in a jab. I commend Dave on what he has done, a tip of the hat to a job well done (p.s. I want his job).

..I like the Greek '84 love, there is a few people that post here regularly that were there. Envious. I literally just finished listening to the second set post space of 9/18/87 doing a little pre-shower after a messy house project soak in the tub. I am anything but an 80's hater, but I second the emotion that I am not weary of good 70's shows getting released. Finally, bring on the 60's and I firmly believe we will see a 91 show get released as a Dave's Picks one day.

Honestly, as many have commented.. the time from sale to sell out was just about right this time. 22k seems to be the magic number for now...…

I get that we complain that these things sell out so quick. I don't get a passive complaint when things don't sell out immediately. Take the win.

Your faith in your fellow man is a good thing. Always maintain that. On this side of the pond, people are ordering shit they don't need just to escape boredom, then making videos for social media of them opening it and trying to figure out what it is. A co-worker showed me one of these videos, and the young lady had bought herself a gentleman's enhancement pump, and had no clue what it was, but she got close after using it on her lips.

But about the longer sell out time, I agree with Jim, it's that boost to 22K that is most to blame. I'd wager most of the resellers buy the subscription, and some may buy a couple more a la carte. And I'd also wager that a good portion of the resellers may not know the Dead's music, but they know enough about Deadheads and collectors, and I'll bet they are aware of the vagaries of different eras and the market for those. But they also know supply and demand. Those 12K of the the first four are long gone, as are many of the next couple years, then you can find a glut of sealed copies of the last few years's Picks.

I will say I hadn't thought of the fact that it's nearly 200 shows released now. That seems incredible until you think of how many shows you had before they were being released, whether on tape, cd, DAT, etc. The Dead are a completist's nightmare!

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Submitted by LedDed on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 16:09

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Garcia Band Poplar Creek 9/16/89 just arrived. Jamming it now. I kind of like saxophone with the band, as I do with the Dead as it's pretty rare. Works great in the ultra-jammy format of JGB and the sound is good here, even if the keys are a bit loud.

It was great to be driving around today and hearing the classic rock stations playing the new Rolling Stones song, "Living In A Ghost Town." Love the song, great groove and Mick is fantastic on both vox and harp. Classic rock stations hardly ever spin new music so it felt like a throwback to better days to hear new Stones on the radio.

Just got back from the local landscape supply where they filled up the entire back of my pickup truck with mulch. Tomorrow's big project, will look beautiful when done many hours later. Peace to all.

\m/

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 16:15

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... call the dead’s cus support number , they will confirm that shipping has started on 24th... your name calling a posts about me are slander, I’m asking nicely & respectfully to be please stop. If you don’t like my posts present, past , future or any other time, just ignore them. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but by putting someone down there’s no excuse this isn’t the place actually there is no place for it . Peace be with you Carlo, have your self a safe & Grateful weekend Carlo. 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 16:51

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Very Nice, a little Grateful Dead I have not even heard yet. Hope it is slinky (Shakedown Stream). Reminds me of last years MUATM, where the Giants show was played. Had not heard that show either and as I had not looked it up, the Eyes opener thru me for a little coo-coo.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 19:41

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What i meant about the '91Charlie Miller soundboards usual spots were the Bit Torrent trackers like Etree and Lossless Legs...they have about 8 new '91 shows

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 21:28

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No need to call in the lawyers..

🙏, no lawyers.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 00:48

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What a great start to a fantastic run of shows. These 5 shows would make a terrific box set!

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 00:48

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I watched Post Malone's live charity show on YouTube earlier tonight. A tribute to Nirvana.
Holy fuckin' mackerel was it good. New respect for Malone. Over and over I kept saying to myself...get tha fuck outta here. Travis Barker on the skins.
All the dough goes to the World Health Organization.
Fuck you Trump….
Rock & Roll is alive and well.
get some

Great clip. Strangely, I was fooling around on my guitar before logging in, and was playing about with a very similar riff to the one Jerry plays at the introduction to this song. Same key and everything. Bit of Bo Diddley in there methinks.

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Submitted by dreading on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 05:06

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I was the one with the record store who commented last year maybe more, and you are correct that I said the older Dead sells much faster than 80s forward. It was never mor obvious tham the 30 Trips box. I still sold out of everything in the 60s and 70s in under 6 months, and I bought 7 sets, all sold individually. I had 80s and 90s up until about 6 months ago, even 1987 atvthe Garden. Just sitting on the shelf for $25 bucks while newer Dave's Picks sold out from underneath them.

LMG you have a lot if nerve talking about slander after shitting on drug addicts in need of methadone. You spoke down on them as if you know the first thing about living on the streets and getting hooked. So take those fake 'bless yous my brothers and sisters' and fake prayer signs to the next unwitting crowd, because everyine here is on to your conman act. And you know what? Nothing anyone said is slander, because you're not using your real name here, you're using an alias in no way connected to your real person. Even if you used your real name here, slander must also include an element where a person has false statements made about them. I don't think anyone here has said anything false. They just called you out on your own false statements. If anyone is in violation of something, it is you for pretending to be an "insider" who receives CDs and information before it's publicly available to the rest of the subscription community. For crying out loud lol you boast about getting the goods before everyone else all the time and then can't answer a simple question about the release. Like when Dave's 32 came out and everyone wanted to know the lenth of the Jam and Dark Star tracks to see where Rhino had decided one track ended and the next one started on that continuous piece of music. You gave some vague response like yes there is a Dark Star and a Jam (someone else recalled this story yesterday too I think). And when you got asked the question a second time in clear as day English, you disappeared until the CD had been received by everyone already.

My suggestion would be to stop making up stories or put your money where your mouth is. Take a clear picture of the CDs and post as your avatar. Otherwise nobody wants to hear about how you get releases early. The new Dave's Picks sounds real good does it? I'm pretty sure you read that in the description at the top of the page. Peolple were fine with your harmless nonsense until you started ripping people off selling Dead merchandise on the dead.net message boards and excluding items, as well as selling free stuff people gave you out of sympathy. I'm sure selling here is a violation of site bylaws and user agreement you signed up for.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 06:20

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I was thinking about the possibility of Dave and Co. releasing shows that have been partially used or cut for older releases, and that got me going down the rabbit hole - 1974, a year with relatively few, but very GOOD shows, seems to have suffered the worst from the cut-and-paste game. All of the Dick's Picks from 74 are cut-jobs (vols. 7, 12, 24, and 31), as is the Wall Of Sound Road Trips, and of course, the ultimate cut-job, The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack. If I am counting correctly, (which I am probably not) that is at least 15 shows that have been partially released.

I am sure that the sound issues from the WoS, especially early in the 1st sets, was a factor in deciding what to cut, etc. And I have not heard the complete shows of all the Dick's Picks or the Road Trips release, so maybe there are bigger sound/quality issues there... However, that October Winterland run is just crying out to be released in full, and at this point, Dave knows that we his audience don't really care TOO much about a "Promised Land" without vocals...

I am really looking forward to having another complete 74 release in the collection! This has been a long-time favorite, and I cannot wait to hear it all dressed to the nines!

Happy Saturday, all!

"This ain't Kentucky!"

Peace

EDIT: Oh, I forgot the bonus discs for Dave's 2 - Cap Center 7/29/74 (still my favorite bonus disc of the series.) Thanks, Bob T! AND, the bonus disc that will be coming with this set (6/22 - another wonderful show!) Add those to the list of partially released 74s.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 06:37

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I was thinking about the same thing the other day. There's also a Dave's bonus disk that has Landover on it from 74!!! only 40 shows for that year and it's cut the worst!! I agree about Winterland also!! Bob t

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Submitted by perithecat on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 06:57

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I think you might be the same person I’ve been buying stuff from eBay here in the uk from . I’ve bought a couple of the July 78 box and the 30 trips box that take my fancy . I do them in monthly treats to spread the cost . It a bit like a great full dead version of reader’s digest 😺

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 07:54

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This den of iniquity is packed with rabid Deadheads.

Daverock, you're killing me, man. You've stopped all online purchases, EXCEPT you suddenly had to have Quicksilver delivered to your door. I get it. Would your choice possibly be: Quicksilver Live at the Fillmore, June 7, 1968?

Alvarhanso: I had to take a shower after your little online purchasing anecdote. Thanks for the visual!

Foaming at the mouth for # 34...

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Submitted by dissident1980 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 07:55

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Thank you. Your LMG analysis was brilliant.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 08:27

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Shakedown Stream

Very cool thing

I could join for only a short while, but more please, GDPTB.

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Submitted by pkb on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 09:52

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I’ve lingered for a few years on these forums without ever creating a username or posting until recently. I had to comment on your LMG post. Spot on and well done.

Stone me, Hendrixfreak, how did you know that?! The Quicksilver cd I bought was indeed the one you guessed it was- Live at the Fillmore 7th June 1968. I've got two other versions, but I read online that this one was more complete and had a better sound quality. Which, incidentally, it has and does. Brilliant release.

My post might have seemed a bit contradictory, but this was the first cd I have ordered for about 5 weeks - which is an eternity to me. I handled it as though it was a potential explosive when it arrived. Put it in the cd player and the whole room lit up.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 12:46

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I've got a few Quicksilver discs, but could only locate that one this morning.

I got lucky, but check these two clues: "Fillmore" + "1968." I mean, how easy was that?

As for online ordering, I make no criticism. I too have refrained (pretty much) as I don't want Amazon workers, postal workers, you-name-it workers risking anything more than they have to. I did buy a new modem and tablet to join the live-streamed and recorded open mic nights here in my town to preserve two warm and wonderful communities that I belong to. (One is a brewery called Dead Hippie Brewing -- they're total Deadheads and the first time I played there I whipped out 'Easy Wind,' 'Operator' and 'I've Been All Around This World' and the owner's wife gave me a lovely tight embrace, so the 'encouragement' worked.)

I did just buy some John Prine, Guy Clark and Townes Van Zandt as I want to learn to write more sophisticated songs. Taking another break from purchasing because I have serious pile of new CDs: GD, Jer, ABB, The Band, Delaney & Bonnie, New Riders, Dylan, John Lee Hooker, etc. And just a little more time to listen.

Cheers everybody. Say a prayer for those we've lost around the world and for the folks on the front lines. Their risks allow me to stay home. Though I did donate blood on Wednesday (I'm AB negative, one of the two rarest types, so this is a clear obligation to society).

Get this: I called ahead, asked about their precautions, was assured everyone was in masks, checked at the door for a temperature, etc. So I go in, do the pre-screening, look up and see half the staff chatting away in tight groups without masks. They tested my hemoglobin then my blood pressure, and the latter had shot up beyond acceptable limits in a very short time. I thought of bolting but talked myself down to go through with a donation that could really help someone in need. A few minutes later, my blood pressure had come down to acceptable to donate levels. And the phlebotomist assigned to me was a total pro with mask in place. But I informed the company I would no longer donate unless they stick with the declared safety standards. Blew my mind! But I went through with it. Now I'm tracking my next 14 days and staying quarantined, thanks to those idiots, just to be sure/safe.

Argh, thanks for letting me rant a little! Cheers for Saturday.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 14:13

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OTIS/74: Berry interesting...Why indeed? Imagine if they used William Burroughs cut up methed to sequence, lol

HENDRIXFREAK: first, good for you! Luckily for the recipient of your generous gift, the weird turned pro!
But that is some fucked up shit (pardon my French) but I’ve seen and heard so many anecdotal versions of that tune and it’s infuriating! No offense but it’s mostly young folks, in groups, no masks etc, BS!
Yet the no balls Governor, who I usually like, is caving and going to open up...the most messed up is he’s using Eagle County as a petrie dish. When we first heard the criteria to open: 14 days decreased cases; full testing available; adequate available hospital facilities; and antibody testing and tracking, we thought, ok, that’s not too bad, especially cause that’s not going to happen right away. NOT! Days later Governor says we’re opening, BS! The ole lady has been obsessed with all this and doing non-stop tracking and they have constantly fudged and/or changed the data. The rate of new cases may have slowed, but it has not decreased! Sorry, just freaking out that once again history is going to repeat itself and just like Spanish influenza we’re going to get hit with a deadly second and third wave. Why?, because we can’t live without bike shops and hair dressers?

Anyway, bring on the 74! Can’t Wait!
Be safe folks!

I was going to PM you about this one, after your comments last week. Its a double cd on the Purple Pyramid label, called simply Live at the Fillmore June 7th 1968. It has the same track listing as Lost Gold and Silver, except for the fact that it opens with Pride of Man and If You Live. Calvary is listed, but its actually Maiden of the Cancer Moon. It sounds, to my ears, much better than Lost Gold and Silver or thye Maiden of the Cancer Moon album. Its not up to Dave's Picks standards, but its pretty good. I paid £19.00, about, for it - not cheap- and even though I have had the material for over 25 years and have listened to it countless times-this release is well worth it to me and outclasses the earlier ones.
There is a drop in sound at one point during Pride of Man, I should say, but that doesn't put me off.

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Submitted by okiedoke13 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 14:47

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Often overlooked was Shady Grove. I think it had the most astoundingly varied and mature assortment of Cipollina's soloing and the guitars were micd and mixed really imaginatively. Great songwriting. I felt they erred in assigning sides -- should have opened with the title track and ended with Hopkins's piano excursion. The remaster brought out so much that had been missed in earlier variants (I was surprised and thrilled), but the truck outside the window sound starting Shady Grove was turned into staticky mush. Go figure. Healy at the board, for those who are interested. I imagine a fair bit of hash and DMT as well.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 15:24

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I only have one version of Quicksilver Live At The Fillmore 7th June 1968 and it is the Purple Pyramid version. I got it years ago when it first came out. Unfortunately not all Purple Pyramid Quicksilver releases are up to the standard of this one.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 15:30

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Have not seen you around here much. How's it going? I owe you a good cigar for having our backs. If you smoke I'll send you a couple from my humidor. I agree with you on 70s sell faster then the 80s. I think rhino whet peoples appetites with the '87, '89, '91 giants box to prevent Daps from delving into the 80s. I'm hoping they wind back to '68 since that's my birthdate and I like those rare tracks they dont play much after 1970 like easy wind, TOYLL, cosmic Charlie and alligator. Peace.

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Submitted by RobbZ on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 15:33

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...and she called herself Lil,...but everyone knew her as Nancy.

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