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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6271
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    ICECRMCNKD - haha no doubt!

    DeadVikes - Sorry about dashing those dreams, and yeah that's a fact filled interview, lotsa stuff to process.
    If it makes you feel any better some of my dreams were dashed as well, 1970 is such an epic year, I'd always hoped there was more hiding somewhere, but after watching that, I'm not so sure.

    David Lemieux you must see the Festival Express tapes safely delivered to the Vault, this is our most desperate hour. Help me Vault@Dead.net, you're my only hope.
    Droid noises in the background.
    You must learn the ways of the Force if you're to come with me to the Vault.

    All this 1980's talk is making me want to listen to some of that stuff, might have to try and pick one of the existing full SBD shows for a revisit, 10/30 & 10/31, I'm looking at you.

    DaP 35 has arrived.

    I got some listening to do, I'm way behind. Too much research and not enough music is making me a very dull boy.

    You must do what you feel is right. Learn about the force.

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    Should have popped the tabs on those reels......

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    Thanks for posting that link. I watched the whole thing and my dreams are dashed. Well shit, why did they erase the tapes!

    It was interesting that later someone asked what show some of the songs came from on Dead Set and Dave said, great question, we don't know. And they made major edits to some of the songs.

    I guess it is time for me to move on from that. I am bummed, because those full shows would have been a huge treat in Multi Track.

    I am sure glad the vault is filled with other treasures.
    Be well all!

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    I'm really enjoying this 8-4-89 Cal Expo show. Great choice. 89 was so consistently good. Built to last is one of my favorites. Long 1st set. Pre-Drums Eyes and a Crazy Fingers!?

    Definitely release worthy.

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    Thanks!

    Wasn't sure if I was shouting into the wind, so your positive feedback is much appreciated :)

    As for The List, yes, yes, yes!
    I'd love that and I'd even help do it ;)
    I saw you mention that earlier and think it's a great idea.

    I've been fascinated with the story of the tapes since I got my first one.
    As it was handed to me, I asked "For Free?" and the response was "Yeah man, never sell them that's against the rules."

    This strange occurrence in the middle of the decade of greed, blew my 15 year old brain wide open.

    I've been fascinated ever since:
    1. Where do these recordings come from?
    2. How many are there?
    3. How can I get the best copies of them all?

    Those three questions & my curiosity about the answers continues to inspire me to this very day.

    What A Long Strange Trip It's Been!

    EDIT: JimInMD, agreed! Funny you mentioned 5/1/70 that was another one of Bob Minkin's cleverly chosen photographs, the master reels of that show appeared on the same page. Collector Heads are really really pretty neat.

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    I wonder what the Alfred College stuff would sound like if they cleaned it up. That's a decent full show with an acoustic set. I always liked that one, but it's an East coast college with a terrific emphasis in art and ceramics of all kinds.. so to me it has good karma.

    https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16

    There's other spring 1970 stuff as many have mentioned somewhat recently.

    Agree with Billy.. right on.

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    Thanks for the great information about the vault, your information always is well thought out and reliable. I would love a list of shows that are in the vault, it looks like you would too. I posted a couple of weeks ago that I wish Dead.net would print out such a list so that we could see it. They could print out one list a month for one year (list of the month). I think that people would really look forward to that list each month, I know I would. If people want to remain surprised about what's in the vault , then they don't have to look at the list. Again, thanks for all the great information you put out, your postings are always so interesting and positive.

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    BTK: Yeah, so I think based on Dave's comments that some of the multi-track stuff still exists, some of it got wiped. And then there's also Betty's 2 Track mixes that exist, I think those are mostly acoustic sets, at least based on what circulates.
    I'm tempted to go through both runs and gather my notes on what SBDs are in circulation and which aren't, but I'm thinking that's a pretty good representation of what exists and what doesn't in the vault.

    DeadVikes: Yeah, here's a link to Dave talking about this on January 17th 2012 @ 33:48ish - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19834305

    It's a good watch and pretty informative. I stumbled on it looking into the 1970 tapes in the Vault, and it did answer my question on that as well.

    Unfortunately, he states that there are virtually no shows in the Vault from July 16 through December 1970, largely because of Owsley getting busted. I guess the Dead themselves were not running tape at all during this time. Might be old news for some, but I wanted to confirm it with my own ears.

    Clever Deadhead and Photographer Bob Minkin also gave us a clue to this on Page 221 of his book Live Dead with a picture of the 1970 reels in the Vault, in the picture there's a huge gap of reels between 7/16/70 - 12/27/70 :(

    Dang it.

    The above totally coincides with the tapes that circulate, mostly what exists in circulation from that time frame are either Fillmore East Crew SBDs (partials), FM Broadcasts, or Audience recordings.

    So, mystery solved? I'd still like a nice list of what's there and not, but yeah that might be my OCD.

    Since we're all getting older here, I think some time should be put towards figuring out what else exists from the Festival Express and to try and get that stuff and get it out there. I know there's more of that than what circulates.

    Unfortunately, I don't see any 1970 acoustic set stuff happening for American Beauty 50th, because it doesn't sound like it exists. Happy to be wrong.

    Alright, well there you have it, and that's the way it is Tuesday August 4, Two Thousand and Twenty, I'll be away on assignment and Dan Rather will be sitting in here for the next few years.

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    To bad they erased those tapes, I'm happy to hear that some survived. I'm. happy they released the 10/9/80 and 10/10/80 acoustic sets, I was at both those shows , so that might mean they still have the electric sets for those shows. Both those shows were killer shows,electric and acoustic , so hopefully the electric sets will we the light of day and be.released.

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    Sounds like a winner to me. Cal Expo.

    I am in the camp of hope for 1980. Time will tell.
    Thanks for the information guys, this is better than the alternative.

    GOGD, did you have a link for Dave's comments?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 11:44

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This 91 show is a real gem! Thanks for posting the link VGUY, I don't have Boxilla, but this Matrix sounds sweet!

Wrapping up Set 1 now! That Cassidy got DEEP! High Time was another highlight, but this has been an overall excellent listen!

Set II of Nashville yesterday went about as I expected. I enjoyed the energy of the LL>Supp opener, I'm always a sucker for Must Have Been the Roses, and then I admit I got a little lost in the Estimated jam, which does seem to just meander around. The Eyes is speedy, which is not my favorite type, but it was ok, then Drums, which in 78 is almost always too long, NFA, Wharf Rat (late set highlight) Sugar Mags, OMSN - all fine versions, but not too exciting. I think I do like this pick slightly more than DaP7 - Normal, but I agree with GOGD, it was nice to dust this one off, but I think it'll get popped back on the shelf for a while.

Also, Good Ole - I am planning on checking out that 4/22/77 show - I just DL'd it and I think I will cue it up after DiP12, though I know that one so well I may just pop in for some highlights (of which there are MANY!)

Loving this new board! Good vibes all around!

Gotta go - they just opened set II with Help On the Way!

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...er, a, I can’t keep up! The posts, the POTDs, pant, pant, this is becoming like a job....so I’ve had to miss a few. That’s ok, I didn’t need to hear some of those.
Did dig the JGB live, always a favorite. Top shelf all the way; Audio, tunes, and the band is definetly peak period.
DPs 12: yeah, haven’t heard this one much, prolly too much other competing new stuff to constantly chase? But I’ve always loved this one. I don’t necessarily mind some of the chopped picks when their sort of sequential and/or make sense flow wise. Don’t dig the “cut up” method.
9/10/91: this will be next fo shure, whenever that might be! I might be a couple a few Mississippi Halfsteps behind, but I’m with ya! Rock on folks!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 14:34

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... God, I love this song.
Engraved on my wedding ring - "I'd rather be with you."

Peace

EDIT: What an overall wonderful show! Great pick! What's on for tomorrow?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 15:50

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Yeah, I was bored.

I wanted to see how the audio spectrums reacted to Slipknot!

Thanks for watching!

Good show with B. M. Love the Shakedown opener, C.C Rider is good and that Dylan song was different. Help, Slip, Franklins was strong as well for that era. Definitely a change of pace. Thanks.

I think we owe FourWinds a pick?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 20:17

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....I've done two. I don't wanna bogart the joint here.
I'm in PST. At eleven, if there isn't a pick, my hand will be forced.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 23:07

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....looks fun!! No clue how fixable feet plays into it, but looks fun nonetheless!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 05:54

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Dave's Picks 3: 10/22/71 and filler from 10/21/71

Disc 3 from 10/21 only, Dark Star> Sitting> Dark Star and a St, Stephen> JBG

Thanks All

Maybe will here from Doc.

ps. Shake IT, Shake It, Sugaree!!!

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Submitted by Zomby Woof on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 06:13

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Bolo24, you didn't show your work!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 06:29

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Morning!

Alright, got some good stuff peaking out here today. Nice Work You All!

FOURWINDSBLOW picks 10/22/71 & 10/21 Filler - Gonna Jam That

Also Mentioned: 04/29/80 - The Famous “Fixable Foot” show! (Wink, wink, nod, nod BOLO & Haha @Zomby Wolf)

Recorded by none other than famous Taper Joani Walker.

I’ve got a lot of tapes with her name on it as the source, not just the shows she recorded, but lots of 1st Generation SBDs!

It’s an honor to spin one of her recordings this morning.

And if this Jack Straw is any example of where this show goes… hold on to your hat!! WOW!

You’ve done it again people, another good day to listen to the Dead:)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 06:53

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Yea bolo..

Didn't show your work, …… No Prize For You!

Now that I see the show, the clues were so obvious. Fixable Foot. Fixable, seven letters, 4/29/80 was the seventh performance of 1980

01/13/80- Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, CA
03/30/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
03/31/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
04/01/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
04/05/80- NBC Studios - New York City, NY
04/28/80- Boutwell Auditorium - Birmingham, AL
04/29/80- Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA

Foot. This involves a little history of the Fox Theatre. You see, when the theatre was built, the owners also purchased the “Mighty Mo”, the 3,622-pipe Möller organ or Foot Organ, "that remains the largest Möller theatre organ in the world even today. "

So simple.. of course, the fixable foot show. I can't believe we missed this. I am going out to amazon right now and ordering some of those processed from jellyfish memory enhancement pills. This sheltering in place stuff is making us all weak.

Have a good day all.

es·o·ter·ic
/ˌesəˈterik/ - adjective

1. intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.

Wow... That's amazing.

BOLO24.. @JIMINMD should get some kind of consolation prize?

Reading that made my morning.

So impressed.. and this Fox 4/29/80 show is good!

I think Jerry partied on the set break though, he seems to have forgotten some of the words...
but he still knows how to play and PITB Jam is super Cool sounding!

Thanks @JIMINMD for showing me how it's done!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 08:51

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9/10 a elegant show played very loud,
6/28 a rockin' show played very loud.

hahaha

Listened to the first few songs last night. That MNS starts off clunky but then really picks up. From what I heard last night it sounds more like an 84 than an 83. Will finish the show today.

While listening last night I remembered that a few days earlier I realized that I have video of that show. It’s partial and includes a few songs from 9/4. It’s a VTS folder which is used for burning DVD-R’s, but the file can also be mounted on a computer desktop and viewed that way.
If anyone wants a copy let me know, I already uploaded it to Google Drive.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:36

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This was another show I had in mind. Is it okay if we do this instead or for tomorrow?

I think I remember this show was pretty good.

ps. Jeez check out Phil on Bird Song don't know if I ever heard it played like that.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:41

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Maybe I had to much too fast.

Here's an Updated list of what's come before through today 4/24/20 (I think):
1967-10-22 - Anthem 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-06)
1968-02-23 & 24 DiP V22 (2020-04-09)
1969-01-24, 25 & 26 - Aoxomoxoa 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-12)
1970-04-15 - 30 Trips (2020-04-15)
1971-10-21 & 22 - Dap 3 (2020-04-14)
1972-04-16 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-16)
1972-04-17 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-17)
1972-08-25 - Dap V24 - (SUGGESTED for 2020-04-25)
1972-11-15 & 17 - DaP V11 (2020-04-07)
1973-02-26 & 28 DiP V28 (2020-04-18)
1973-11-30 & 12-02 - DiP 14 (2020-04-13)
1976-09-25 & 09-28 - DiP 20 (2020-04-20)
1978-02-03, 04 & 05 - DiP V18 (2020-04-06)
1978-04-22 - DaP V15 (2020-04-22)
1979-12-26 & 28 - DiP V5 & RT 3.1 (2020-04-07)
1980-04-29 - Audience by Joani Walker (2020-04-24)
1980-11-30 - DaP V8 (2020-04-19)
1983-09-10 & 11 - SBDs (2020-04-08)
1989-07-12 - RFK Box (2020-04-15)
1990 - JGB Released 1991 (2020-04-21)
1991-09-10 - 30 Trips (2020-04-23)

The following shows were also Mentioned
1969-04-21
1973-02-09
1973-02-15
1973-09-08
1973-12-01
1974-06-26 & 28 - DiP V12
1977-04-21
1977-06-07
1979-09-01
1980-09-02
1980-10-10
1982-04-10 - Jerry
1983-04-16 & 04-17
1984-04-20 & 21
1985-11-01
1989-07-13
1989-09-12

I’m listening to 10/22/71 now, as I don’t think I jumped on this thread until around 4/15 ish.. yeah the Days & the Dead are starting to blend together… it's the supplies!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:46

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....Don't Ease as a second set opener is pretty fun!! Passenger kicked ass!
8.25.72 for Saturday sounds grate. It even features a OMSN!!! Just exactly perfecto!
GOGD....Daves 15 was 4.22.78 not 77.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 09:58

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Jim's answer is better - that took some work (and a slightly unhinged thought process - I like that!). I agree, he deserves a consolation prize, just for including the umlaut in Möller! Jim - send me your address and I'll shoot something your way.

OK, here's the original solution. The only two-word anagram for Fixable Foot that uses all the letters is Lifeboat Fox. A quick Google search would show that Oscar-nominated "Lifeboat" was the only film made for 20th Century Fox by Alfred Joseph Hitchcock. And, of course, Sir Hitchcock met his demise on April 29, 1980. But not at Atlanta's Fox Theater - he left in disgust after Jerry had that major brain fart during Terrapin Station!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:03

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That sounds good. Thanks.

4/29/80 Jack Straw!

Thanks for the list.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:11

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Bolo24 - Amazing & Funny in one post.. Nice Work!

VGuy72 - Gotta Love a Good Editor!! Thank you, Edit made.
My thoughts on Don't Ease & Passenger Exactly!
BTW Nice work keeping up on the Avatars, I'm enjoying that. Well Done

FOURWINDSBLOW - I think that Jack Straw is ultimately the best song played that night, SMOKER!
And Nice Pick... Anything '72 will do..
Lemieux sounded like '72 is essentially his favorite year, I mean I'm reading between the lines in his comments, but yeah.. that's what it sounded like.

And this 10/22/71 is sounding super GOOD, I love a '71 Black Peter, might be my favorite year for that song.. not sure about that.

This is fun you guys!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:11

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Sorry was not trying yo ignore you brother. Great pick!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:15

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No harm, no foul, no worries :) Dave's 3 is one of my favorite of the series!

I really tried to get Bolo's game, but after seeing the rationale, I was not on the same plane of reasoning. Would have never gone the Hitchcock direction. I did originally get Fox Theater though!

So, is Bolo's "Fixable Foot" show, 4/29/80, today's pick?

Peace

Edit: It looks like the answer to my question is "yes." Firing it up now! Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Ditto on FOURWINDSBLOWS post

I think you said it perfectly yesterday -

Loving this new board! Good vibes all around!

And I gave special attention to SOTM yesterday in your honor :)

....but you are savage sometimes with these contests. (Lifeboat is a great movie btw). 4.29.80 is the pick of the day. I missed the Dave's 3 pick, so that will be next so i can ketchup.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:35

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Dave gets paid to do this.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:46

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laguna seca 5.9.87. Touch of grey video shot that night. Dog took drummers leg/foot. Roadie put it back.
That was my first one.
Googled fixable foot. Brought me to club feet. A foot is 12 inches. Club Twelve. A non-profit. Which happens to reside in San Antonio, Texas. San Antonio Civic Auditorium. 11.12.71.
That was my second one. I, apparently, need to think outside the box (of rain) more often for these.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:51

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Mind Blown... Just Think!

Wow... I do it for free, I'd def do it for money.. but even BETTER!

@VGUY72, @OTIS @FOURWINDSBLOW, etc.. Dave's 3 is the SICK!

Early Comes A Time.. so good, extra verses, Jerry's reading of it, gots to be my favorite year for that song. So much good on this here release..

I'm glad this came on today cause it sounds just exactly perfect!

My 1st was 10/29/85 - Anagrams of Fox (Theater) and TOO - this show is at the Fox, has an Other One, and a Brokedown Palace (ref. something "fixable.") Also, the first set was cut short due to technical difficulties, another "fixable" problem.

Second guess was Lyceum 5/26/72 - It is the show that TOO was taken from to make-up the "Epilogue/Prelude" sections of the original E72 Lp, which prominently features a foot in need of fixing on the cover. I went this way after Bolo's comment that I needed to "go a little bit further" than I had before, so I went across the Atlantic.

Now I see that both guesses were woefully simple. Still, a fun game!

As to today's show - this raging Passenger is a perfect follow-up to that gorgeous Peggy-O! Another day, another great pick!

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 11:14

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Just wait til' you get to the "Dark Star>Sitting On Top of the World> Dark Star>Bobby McGee"! One of the best segments of any Dave's Pick so far, in my (very) humble opinion.

Glad you're digging on it! Forensic Doc's love of 71 inspired me to check it out more, and now it is one of my favorite years for the band.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 11:34

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Can't wait, 10/22 Rocked!

Early Keith TIFTOO Kills.. It's unreal that he'd just joined the band.

Hitting up 10/21 after lunch, can't wait!

'71 is special
One of my first bootlegs was 4/29/71, I played it to death.
When I got back into collecting Dead after a long break, I got a hold of that Houseboat RT release and the China > Rider brought tears to my eyes as I realized what I'd been missing.

It's not my go to year cuz there's just so many other great years.. but it'll always be special to me!

What a Year, What a Show, What a Band!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 11:38

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....i think i speak for all of us that we would have all been a sweaty mess. Nice Playin' jam in that second set too. I give this show 7.2 goonie birds out of 10. (if you went to shows in '88-'89, you know what i mean).

I got a Goonie Bird at my first show in '86.. It was totally Goonie, I wasn't sure if what I was seeing was real or not.

I agree.. that Bertha is full on!

Man, seeing a show. Those were the days.

I think it's a young persons game, but I was young and dug it!

Hi-Five!

You beat me by 2 1/2 months, went to Riverbend 6/30/86 shortly after my 16th birthday:)

I remember going into the place it looked like an amusement park or something, again I was having trouble trusting what I was seeing, it was super hot and there was tie-dye everywhere and that goonie bird..

I can't remember a lot of things, but I've got some memories from that day that I always smile about.

There was a running dialogue all day I kept picking up on. It went something like:
Man it's Hot Out, You got your ticket?, It's Gonna Be a Good Show.. Man it's Hot Out, You Got your ticket? It's Gonna Be a Good Show..

I'd check my pockets every time. It's funny what you remember.

EDIT: Supplication Jam > Let It Grow!! You lucky Dog You!

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 04/24/2020 - 12:22

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I was at this show, soundboard was taking up our reserved seats so they pulled out some nice padded chairs and put us right at the soundboard. I would have never guessed this was the pick. 2 word anagram, was that part of the clue? Missed that. What I remember (almost 40 years now) about this show was the Jack Straw opener, always loved a Jack Straw opener, got the crowd into it right off, the Passenger being really good, but I'm bias, I've always loved that tune. The second set with Don't ease as the opener, we all looked at each other and went "odd", the Lost Sailor>Saint being very nice. Of course the most remembered part was the awesomeness of the Fox Theatre itself, what a beautiful place and the planetarium ...wow, the sun went down the band came on, it got dark, the stars came out and we went to space and the band played on as the dawn approached, all inside that beautiful theatre. I do believe it is the nicest venue I have ever seen a band at, early 20th century decor, that carpet and those drapes, those bathrooms with the attendant, just so cool. Maybe not the best dead show, but I will never forget it. I've got the ticket stub around here somewhere, sparkles on the Grateful Dead lettering, if I find it, I'll post a pic of it.