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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Let me know what you think OB. I really enjoyed this one and would love to see the whole run released. They just really seem to be stretching a lot of songs out during this period. Yes, what in the world went on at these shows with the crowd.??
    Add in all the new material from Terrapin through Go to Heaven and you get a lot material. Recording is great until it goes into an audience patch during Wharf Rat.
    Okay, I need to go back and check out February 79 at Dane County.

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    Hola Amigos!

    WEIDRICH: nice to meet ya!
    Thanks for stopping by.
    We actually hit 7/2/87 recently here on Pick of the Day with discussion, and everyone seemed to have a positive overall consensus!
    As I was fortunate to be at that one, I can understand your interesting comments about recordings vis a vis humidity etc. It was most definitely one of those Great Lake sweat fests! But man the energy was off the hook!

    2/4/79: I knew you’d like that one BC! Yep, it’s easy to second guess all these years later lol, I’m sure everyone thinks about the show(s) that got away, sigh…unfortunately, my understanding is there’s no tapes for these early 79 shows, but who knows with all that’s happened last few years? That Dane box would be sweeeeet!

    Ok DV, 10/31/79 Rollin. Ha, Phil sounds wrecked when he first starts telling folks to step back etc, ah, the Heineken years!

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    If 7-7-87 was good check out 7-2-87 another one must hear from the opener to the end from that era show of quality performance and good set list - is there a good copy of the show ? not really the best copies are sharp with lots of crowd noise, why ? humidity and rain - afternoon concert outdoors with ohio valley and lake effect rain all morning in Rochester ny area - the digital recorders of the era couldn't operate well and the tapers got less than great copies for most palates , i love it - even if the tapes are just good they show was great

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    Reporting in. This show is freaking great and should be released if there is a clean Betty Board to be had. Want that humble opinion clearly understood upfront. Maybe part of that Great Dane Box ; )

    Like Oro wrote about 7/7/87 - sometimes you know the band is on from the get-go. The opening MIssissippi Half-Step > Franklin's Tower kills it - just a great version of Franklin's. Other 1st set highlights are a beautiful Peggy-O, a stellar Friend of the Devil (always something I look for), and a sweet sweet sweet Lazy Lightning > Supplication closer with Bob and Donna locked in on the vocal exchange. Of note - Donna's singing is really solid throughout the show. You would never guess this is less than 2 weeks til the end of the Godchaux era. Jerry's singing also noticeably emotive. Phil is very much on.

    A great Godchaux era Shakedown to open Set II. Samson. Heart of Me. Terrapin > 18+ min Playing. Great laid back Iko out of D/S > Jerry doing his best mournful Black Peter > rocking Around. The US Blues is a solid send off into the February winter night.

    The Clugsman audience has a good hall balance for the time. Some talkie and clappy folks are an occasional minor issue. One thing seems apparent in all that - a good time was had by all.

    Final assessment - I def screwed up in not seeing this show. And it wasn't the last time I'd do that unfortunately.

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    Okey dokey Smokey!
    Not exactly sure when, but it’ll be next up on my Dead listening fo sho!

    Hit most of Dicks 68 for FAC and then select cuts of about half of 6/23/73 Friday night which was awesome!
    They both were perfect vibes for the situation, cause as we all know, “the situation is the boss”
    The 68 for the Friday energy, and I guess I was really jonesing for an Alligator!
    The 73, especially that disc 3, was perfect for first night being able to party on the back patio!
    Like a light switch, it’s gotten warm. So the stars aligned: warm out, almost full moon, new comfy patio chair, fully stocked on summer beer, with a sonic collage of spacey dead, all kinds of night birds and critters etc, and the sweet sound of the creek as it’s full run off. Fortunate that our “backyard” is so vast and beautiful (our yards only about 20’ , but beyond is open, mountain rimmed valley. So with the moon this WE its prime time! Perhaps we’ll hit some of that 79 at the pa-teh on da patio baby!

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    Looks like I will be stuck inside for a while. Have we ever hit 10/31/79? I can't remember, but I think this would be a good show to check out again.
    This Nassau run would make a great box. Three great shows, throw in Providence, and the two Spectrum shows and you would have a winner. Yes. I know they 'releaed" 11/5 and 11/6 as downloads, but most people don't have them and 11/5 is a top five show in my book. And I know they released that crazy Scarlet Fire form Nassau as hidden tracks from Dicks 13, but it would be great to have it as a full show. Would to see some variety and this late 79 delivers that.

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    Well duh, that’s what happens when every A frame has your number on the wall!

    “More volume was necessary” nice!

    RIVERDOG: thanks for joining our little party!
    But a, Dave’s not here man!
    No, the inmates most definitely run the asylum here…which is nice!

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    Badda-bing!

    A rimshot on the drum for Jim!
    Nice "Stealie" Dan reference.
    My POD just became my long forgotten vinyl of the Aja album.
    Finished second taste of DaP42 yesterday and realized my mistake on the first run through.
    More volume was necessary!
    Cheers on your weekend.

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    How'd they find us? We've been found out..

    Clean this mess up else we'll all end up in jail
    Those test-tubes and the scale
    Just get it all out of here
    Is there gas in the car?
    Yes, there's gas in the car
    I think the people down the hall know who you are.

    Oh, it's just the Grateful Dead Bulletin. Never mind.. as you were.

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    Hello David,
    I know we are not to request for a specific show to be released and I understand that would be overwhelming. So I’m not going to do that. I going to lobby for a general geographical area ! And that is southwest Virginia. And to clarify SWVa has little to nothing in common with Northern Virginia or the Tidewater area. We are the beautiful and rural part of Virginia. 4 hours from DC and 4 1/2 hours from Williamsburg. With that said the GD played here 4 times from 1974-1987. Three times at the Roanoke Civic Center and once at Virginia Tech. Pick any and all !
    The 74 show was a real trip. The civic center was only about 1/2 full but that 1/2 was ready and tripping. It was a great night for Roanoke. It was my 8th show but it was the first for a large percentage of the crowd. The US Blues>Jam>Promised Land was primal. They had done similar sequence a month before in Miami but we didn’t know that. To this day when I hear that jam in the sequence it makes feel like I’m hearing some organic primal stew brewing. Tribal !!
    I’m a Hokie grad and Blacksburg is sacred ground around here. So in 1978 when they announced this show we were over the top. And it was a different story this time. The place was packed to the rafters. They were VERY popular by then. I was fortunate enough to see the two FOX Theater shows earlier that week. Just listen to TOO>Black Peter and tell me the boys were not ON this night. The whole show is smoking. A couple interesting side notes we relayed to me by friends on the concert committee. The band got to Blacksburg a day early and a couple of them came out and saw our Hokie baseball team play. Also another committee person took Jerry and Bob in a VT van to a Roanoke theater and they saw Saturday Night Fever. He said on the 45 minute return trip they talked about the movie and it’s music. Those are second hand stories but the people that told them to me had no reason to lie. Something I saw with my own eyes was during the “percussion” segment of the show when all band members were on stage I saw Bob beating on Jerry !! Weir had drum sticks and started playing on Jerry’s back. Jerry looked surprised and then started laughing. One great night for sure.
    We had to wait 9 years for them to pass our way again in 1987. By now they were HUGE !! How Roanoke got two nights in July right in the middle of stadium season is still a mystery. This time GD mania and culture took over and overwhelmed out humble little hamlet. It took years for our city fathers to get over this event. But the band did come to the Star City (huge star on mountain top above coliseum) and boy did the band play. Check out Morning Dew as an example of just what a meltdown occurred those two nights. We were blessed and we knew it.........those were the days my friend.
    Hopefully you were able to find time to read my scrabble and as I said earlier, I’m not requesting a specific show but I/we think it time for some love for the mountains of SWVa 😉. I saw Jerry 101 times from 1973-1995. These shows hold their own with any I ever saw.

    Thanks for being a great keeper Of the vault and the flame.

    PLP in Rocky Mount, VA Go Hokies !!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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This 91 show is a real gem! Thanks for posting the link VGUY, I don't have Boxilla, but this Matrix sounds sweet!

Wrapping up Set 1 now! That Cassidy got DEEP! High Time was another highlight, but this has been an overall excellent listen!

Set II of Nashville yesterday went about as I expected. I enjoyed the energy of the LL>Supp opener, I'm always a sucker for Must Have Been the Roses, and then I admit I got a little lost in the Estimated jam, which does seem to just meander around. The Eyes is speedy, which is not my favorite type, but it was ok, then Drums, which in 78 is almost always too long, NFA, Wharf Rat (late set highlight) Sugar Mags, OMSN - all fine versions, but not too exciting. I think I do like this pick slightly more than DaP7 - Normal, but I agree with GOGD, it was nice to dust this one off, but I think it'll get popped back on the shelf for a while.

Also, Good Ole - I am planning on checking out that 4/22/77 show - I just DL'd it and I think I will cue it up after DiP12, though I know that one so well I may just pop in for some highlights (of which there are MANY!)

Loving this new board! Good vibes all around!

Gotta go - they just opened set II with Help On the Way!

Peace

...er, a, I can’t keep up! The posts, the POTDs, pant, pant, this is becoming like a job....so I’ve had to miss a few. That’s ok, I didn’t need to hear some of those.
Did dig the JGB live, always a favorite. Top shelf all the way; Audio, tunes, and the band is definetly peak period.
DPs 12: yeah, haven’t heard this one much, prolly too much other competing new stuff to constantly chase? But I’ve always loved this one. I don’t necessarily mind some of the chopped picks when their sort of sequential and/or make sense flow wise. Don’t dig the “cut up” method.
9/10/91: this will be next fo shure, whenever that might be! I might be a couple a few Mississippi Halfsteps behind, but I’m with ya! Rock on folks!

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... God, I love this song.
Engraved on my wedding ring - "I'd rather be with you."

Peace

EDIT: What an overall wonderful show! Great pick! What's on for tomorrow?

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Yeah, I was bored.

I wanted to see how the audio spectrums reacted to Slipknot!

Thanks for watching!

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Good show with B. M. Love the Shakedown opener, C.C Rider is good and that Dylan song was different. Help, Slip, Franklins was strong as well for that era. Definitely a change of pace. Thanks.

I think we owe FourWinds a pick?

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....I've done two. I don't wanna bogart the joint here.
I'm in PST. At eleven, if there isn't a pick, my hand will be forced.

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The Pick will come.

By the way Bolo, what was the answer to your contest?

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....looks fun!! No clue how fixable feet plays into it, but looks fun nonetheless!

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Dave's Picks 3: 10/22/71 and filler from 10/21/71

Disc 3 from 10/21 only, Dark Star> Sitting> Dark Star and a St, Stephen> JBG

Thanks All

Maybe will here from Doc.

ps. Shake IT, Shake It, Sugaree!!!

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Bolo24, you didn't show your work!

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Morning!

Alright, got some good stuff peaking out here today. Nice Work You All!

FOURWINDSBLOW picks 10/22/71 & 10/21 Filler - Gonna Jam That

Also Mentioned: 04/29/80 - The Famous “Fixable Foot” show! (Wink, wink, nod, nod BOLO & Haha @Zomby Wolf)

Recorded by none other than famous Taper Joani Walker.

I’ve got a lot of tapes with her name on it as the source, not just the shows she recorded, but lots of 1st Generation SBDs!

It’s an honor to spin one of her recordings this morning.

And if this Jack Straw is any example of where this show goes… hold on to your hat!! WOW!

You’ve done it again people, another good day to listen to the Dead:)

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Yea bolo..

Didn't show your work, …… No Prize For You!

Now that I see the show, the clues were so obvious. Fixable Foot. Fixable, seven letters, 4/29/80 was the seventh performance of 1980

01/13/80- Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, CA
03/30/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
03/31/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
04/01/80- Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ
04/05/80- NBC Studios - New York City, NY
04/28/80- Boutwell Auditorium - Birmingham, AL
04/29/80- Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA

Foot. This involves a little history of the Fox Theatre. You see, when the theatre was built, the owners also purchased the “Mighty Mo”, the 3,622-pipe Möller organ or Foot Organ, "that remains the largest Möller theatre organ in the world even today. "

So simple.. of course, the fixable foot show. I can't believe we missed this. I am going out to amazon right now and ordering some of those processed from jellyfish memory enhancement pills. This sheltering in place stuff is making us all weak.

Have a good day all.

es·o·ter·ic
/ˌesəˈterik/ - adjective

1. intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.

Wow... That's amazing.

BOLO24.. @JIMINMD should get some kind of consolation prize?

Reading that made my morning.

So impressed.. and this Fox 4/29/80 show is good!

I think Jerry partied on the set break though, he seems to have forgotten some of the words...
but he still knows how to play and PITB Jam is super Cool sounding!

Thanks @JIMINMD for showing me how it's done!

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9/10 a elegant show played very loud,
6/28 a rockin' show played very loud.

hahaha

Listened to the first few songs last night. That MNS starts off clunky but then really picks up. From what I heard last night it sounds more like an 84 than an 83. Will finish the show today.

While listening last night I remembered that a few days earlier I realized that I have video of that show. It’s partial and includes a few songs from 9/4. It’s a VTS folder which is used for burning DVD-R’s, but the file can also be mounted on a computer desktop and viewed that way.
If anyone wants a copy let me know, I already uploaded it to Google Drive.

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This was another show I had in mind. Is it okay if we do this instead or for tomorrow?

I think I remember this show was pretty good.

ps. Jeez check out Phil on Bird Song don't know if I ever heard it played like that.

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Maybe I had to much too fast.

Here's an Updated list of what's come before through today 4/24/20 (I think):
1967-10-22 - Anthem 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-06)
1968-02-23 & 24 DiP V22 (2020-04-09)
1969-01-24, 25 & 26 - Aoxomoxoa 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-12)
1970-04-15 - 30 Trips (2020-04-15)
1971-10-21 & 22 - Dap 3 (2020-04-14)
1972-04-16 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-16)
1972-04-17 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-17)
1972-08-25 - Dap V24 - (SUGGESTED for 2020-04-25)
1972-11-15 & 17 - DaP V11 (2020-04-07)
1973-02-26 & 28 DiP V28 (2020-04-18)
1973-11-30 & 12-02 - DiP 14 (2020-04-13)
1976-09-25 & 09-28 - DiP 20 (2020-04-20)
1978-02-03, 04 & 05 - DiP V18 (2020-04-06)
1978-04-22 - DaP V15 (2020-04-22)
1979-12-26 & 28 - DiP V5 & RT 3.1 (2020-04-07)
1980-04-29 - Audience by Joani Walker (2020-04-24)
1980-11-30 - DaP V8 (2020-04-19)
1983-09-10 & 11 - SBDs (2020-04-08)
1989-07-12 - RFK Box (2020-04-15)
1990 - JGB Released 1991 (2020-04-21)
1991-09-10 - 30 Trips (2020-04-23)

The following shows were also Mentioned
1969-04-21
1973-02-09
1973-02-15
1973-09-08
1973-12-01
1974-06-26 & 28 - DiP V12
1977-04-21
1977-06-07
1979-09-01
1980-09-02
1980-10-10
1982-04-10 - Jerry
1983-04-16 & 04-17
1984-04-20 & 21
1985-11-01
1989-07-13
1989-09-12

I’m listening to 10/22/71 now, as I don’t think I jumped on this thread until around 4/15 ish.. yeah the Days & the Dead are starting to blend together… it's the supplies!

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....Don't Ease as a second set opener is pretty fun!! Passenger kicked ass!
8.25.72 for Saturday sounds grate. It even features a OMSN!!! Just exactly perfecto!
GOGD....Daves 15 was 4.22.78 not 77.

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Jim's answer is better - that took some work (and a slightly unhinged thought process - I like that!). I agree, he deserves a consolation prize, just for including the umlaut in Möller! Jim - send me your address and I'll shoot something your way.

OK, here's the original solution. The only two-word anagram for Fixable Foot that uses all the letters is Lifeboat Fox. A quick Google search would show that Oscar-nominated "Lifeboat" was the only film made for 20th Century Fox by Alfred Joseph Hitchcock. And, of course, Sir Hitchcock met his demise on April 29, 1980. But not at Atlanta's Fox Theater - he left in disgust after Jerry had that major brain fart during Terrapin Station!

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That sounds good. Thanks.

4/29/80 Jack Straw!

Thanks for the list.

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Bolo24 - Amazing & Funny in one post.. Nice Work!

VGuy72 - Gotta Love a Good Editor!! Thank you, Edit made.
My thoughts on Don't Ease & Passenger Exactly!
BTW Nice work keeping up on the Avatars, I'm enjoying that. Well Done

FOURWINDSBLOW - I think that Jack Straw is ultimately the best song played that night, SMOKER!
And Nice Pick... Anything '72 will do..
Lemieux sounded like '72 is essentially his favorite year, I mean I'm reading between the lines in his comments, but yeah.. that's what it sounded like.

And this 10/22/71 is sounding super GOOD, I love a '71 Black Peter, might be my favorite year for that song.. not sure about that.

This is fun you guys!

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Sorry was not trying yo ignore you brother. Great pick!

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No harm, no foul, no worries :) Dave's 3 is one of my favorite of the series!

I really tried to get Bolo's game, but after seeing the rationale, I was not on the same plane of reasoning. Would have never gone the Hitchcock direction. I did originally get Fox Theater though!

So, is Bolo's "Fixable Foot" show, 4/29/80, today's pick?

Peace

Edit: It looks like the answer to my question is "yes." Firing it up now! Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Ditto on FOURWINDSBLOWS post

I think you said it perfectly yesterday -

Loving this new board! Good vibes all around!

And I gave special attention to SOTM yesterday in your honor :)

....but you are savage sometimes with these contests. (Lifeboat is a great movie btw). 4.29.80 is the pick of the day. I missed the Dave's 3 pick, so that will be next so i can ketchup.

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Dave gets paid to do this.

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laguna seca 5.9.87. Touch of grey video shot that night. Dog took drummers leg/foot. Roadie put it back.
That was my first one.
Googled fixable foot. Brought me to club feet. A foot is 12 inches. Club Twelve. A non-profit. Which happens to reside in San Antonio, Texas. San Antonio Civic Auditorium. 11.12.71.
That was my second one. I, apparently, need to think outside the box (of rain) more often for these.

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Mind Blown... Just Think!

Wow... I do it for free, I'd def do it for money.. but even BETTER!

@VGUY72, @OTIS @FOURWINDSBLOW, etc.. Dave's 3 is the SICK!

Early Comes A Time.. so good, extra verses, Jerry's reading of it, gots to be my favorite year for that song. So much good on this here release..

I'm glad this came on today cause it sounds just exactly perfect!

My 1st was 10/29/85 - Anagrams of Fox (Theater) and TOO - this show is at the Fox, has an Other One, and a Brokedown Palace (ref. something "fixable.") Also, the first set was cut short due to technical difficulties, another "fixable" problem.

Second guess was Lyceum 5/26/72 - It is the show that TOO was taken from to make-up the "Epilogue/Prelude" sections of the original E72 Lp, which prominently features a foot in need of fixing on the cover. I went this way after Bolo's comment that I needed to "go a little bit further" than I had before, so I went across the Atlantic.

Now I see that both guesses were woefully simple. Still, a fun game!

As to today's show - this raging Passenger is a perfect follow-up to that gorgeous Peggy-O! Another day, another great pick!

Peace

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Just wait til' you get to the "Dark Star>Sitting On Top of the World> Dark Star>Bobby McGee"! One of the best segments of any Dave's Pick so far, in my (very) humble opinion.

Glad you're digging on it! Forensic Doc's love of 71 inspired me to check it out more, and now it is one of my favorite years for the band.

Peace

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Can't wait, 10/22 Rocked!

Early Keith TIFTOO Kills.. It's unreal that he'd just joined the band.

Hitting up 10/21 after lunch, can't wait!

'71 is special
One of my first bootlegs was 4/29/71, I played it to death.
When I got back into collecting Dead after a long break, I got a hold of that Houseboat RT release and the China > Rider brought tears to my eyes as I realized what I'd been missing.

It's not my go to year cuz there's just so many other great years.. but it'll always be special to me!

What a Year, What a Show, What a Band!

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....i think i speak for all of us that we would have all been a sweaty mess. Nice Playin' jam in that second set too. I give this show 7.2 goonie birds out of 10. (if you went to shows in '88-'89, you know what i mean).

I got a Goonie Bird at my first show in '86.. It was totally Goonie, I wasn't sure if what I was seeing was real or not.

I agree.. that Bertha is full on!

Man, seeing a show. Those were the days.

I think it's a young persons game, but I was young and dug it!

Hi-Five!

You beat me by 2 1/2 months, went to Riverbend 6/30/86 shortly after my 16th birthday:)

I remember going into the place it looked like an amusement park or something, again I was having trouble trusting what I was seeing, it was super hot and there was tie-dye everywhere and that goonie bird..

I can't remember a lot of things, but I've got some memories from that day that I always smile about.

There was a running dialogue all day I kept picking up on. It went something like:
Man it's Hot Out, You got your ticket?, It's Gonna Be a Good Show.. Man it's Hot Out, You Got your ticket? It's Gonna Be a Good Show..

I'd check my pockets every time. It's funny what you remember.

EDIT: Supplication Jam > Let It Grow!! You lucky Dog You!

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I was at this show, soundboard was taking up our reserved seats so they pulled out some nice padded chairs and put us right at the soundboard. I would have never guessed this was the pick. 2 word anagram, was that part of the clue? Missed that. What I remember (almost 40 years now) about this show was the Jack Straw opener, always loved a Jack Straw opener, got the crowd into it right off, the Passenger being really good, but I'm bias, I've always loved that tune. The second set with Don't ease as the opener, we all looked at each other and went "odd", the Lost Sailor>Saint being very nice. Of course the most remembered part was the awesomeness of the Fox Theatre itself, what a beautiful place and the planetarium ...wow, the sun went down the band came on, it got dark, the stars came out and we went to space and the band played on as the dawn approached, all inside that beautiful theatre. I do believe it is the nicest venue I have ever seen a band at, early 20th century decor, that carpet and those drapes, those bathrooms with the attendant, just so cool. Maybe not the best dead show, but I will never forget it. I've got the ticket stub around here somewhere, sparkles on the Grateful Dead lettering, if I find it, I'll post a pic of it.