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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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November 8, 2020 - 3:11pm

#5371

JimInMD

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Winterland '73

I just did the 9th a couple months ago.. did we do that one here?

I might skip it and do the 10th and 11th.
November 8, 2020 - 2:44pm

#5372

DeadVikes

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Winterland 73

Let's crank them out Bob t!
November 8, 2020 - 2:22pm

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JimInMD

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Audience Tape(s)

I agree with the quality of the 11/8/70 audience tape, one recorded by Ken and Judy Lee. Ancient and historic. If you haven't read this, check it out. For most of 1970, if there was not tapers in the audience, the shows might as well not have happened....

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/short-guide-to-1970-audience-tap…

Sort of like the 1970 Good Lovin' > La Bamba > Good Lovin'
If the tape didn't survive, we would not know it happened.

"11-11-70 is a wild, long show, with the first La Bamba in Good Lovin (I don't think they repeated this for 17 years!), and an hour-long series of jams with Jack Casady & Jorma Kaukonen; unfortunately the recording is pretty poor."

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-11-11.aud.cotsman.17081.sbeok.shnf
November 8, 2020 - 1:47pm

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Strider 808808

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November 8, 1970 Capitol Theater / Basement Tape mythic quality

The song selection is all over the map. It reminds me of Dylan and the Band at Big Pink. Was there with Kirk and Judy. We sat in pretty good balcony seats. Of a few bands and nine Dead shows I went to at the Capitol Theater 11/8/70 was my only time sitting in the balcony. The big-O -Otis was there, liked the balcony the best.
Started listening 5am. The acoustic set was fantastic opening with Dire Wolf and then slow version I Know You Rider.Was gettin jiggy during Rosalie Mcfall and operator .
NRPS set with Jerry and Mickey was standard 1970. Garcia’s pedal steel guitar was always so sweet . Any NRPS recordings are worth hearing.
The Dead’s electric set was also spectacular. Morning Dew opener wow! Only time Mystery Train was played, First Around and Around . Truckin has an interesting fall 1970 unique jam sounding Chicago Blues back into slow shuffle, killer. Baby Blue was one of the best versions I’ve ever heard from the Dead. First verse only.Dark Star with spectacular post 1st verse jam, space/feed back. The Celtic art work and plaster work on the Capitol walls glowed purple . The Dead did not have a light show at the Capitol like at the Fillmore. February 71 were only slides for the ESP experiment. The band was in top form November 8th, at the same time David Lemeiux was being born. Auspicious.
I was way impressed with the quality of the audience tape. Not the highest quality audio but the historical aspect of that particular night and set list.
I count my lucky stars to have been 16 fifty years ago and lived 15 miles from the Capitol Theater.
November 8, 2020 - 1:23pm

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bob t

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Guess what tomorrow starts!!!!

Winterland 73, November 9, 10,11..... How should we honor this run???? Bob t
November 8, 2020 - 11:52am

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Strider 808808

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Happy 50th Birthday Dave Lemeiux & 11/8/70

I listened to 11/8/70 this morning on relisten including NRPS. I highly recommend it for a listen on this half century mark. I wrote down impressions and thoughts and mined memories. Will just say that for now.
November 8, 2020 - 10:48am

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The Good Ole G…

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I Can't See Reason One...

For Fightin' And Complainin', Lord We Should Be Having Fun!
- Bob Weir 12/31/71

Ahoy Matey's!

Did I hear something about 1970 going on today?

Happy Birthday David Lemieux!
You young pup you... Gotcha by almost 5 months ;)

I fell down a new release & 30 Days of the Dead wormhole... coming through the other side today with some lingering 1971 playing in the background.

Caught bits of 11/7/71 yesterday, the good bits! That's a tasty Dark Star.
2/18/71 is sounding Awesome.
3/26/87 & 3/27/87 are representing Spring '87 Tour in the official release canon.
All and all, the energy and the excitement is there. And most present, the 1987 Spring Tour Roar!!!
(Note: These are probably the best recordings from that tour, due to Healy's UltraMatrix experiment going on this year. My guess would be the official release are as good as they're going to sound. So you get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as we used to say to my daughter.)
And 30 Days of the Dead has been fun, I'm 8 for 8, isn't that great?!?!

11/3/20 threw me off and after spending too much time figuring out which version of Good Time Blues I was hearing, I've been playing catch up all week on my GD time allotment.
Plus I've been learning some cool CSS stuff, and let's not forget there's been an historic election.
So there's all my excuses for not regaling you all with my colorful commentary this week, but I was here in spirit.

By the way yesterday's 30 DOTD show 7/25/74.. that Dark Star!!! Love it!
I don't think we've done that one yet, we should make that a pick one of these Days.

OB: Sounds like we've been in the '71 space time continuum together. Not too many jams in the early months of that year, 3/18/71 Caution is worth seeking out for sure, and then the only thing coming to mind is 4/29/71, which is legend.

The jams really start to pick up once Keith joins the band, prior to that, they're crafting new songs and giving those the once over twice. If there's some jammy jams that you all know of in the early months of '71, let us know. But from what I recall, they're all pretty short. November '71 was sounding good yesterday, and this 12/31/71 I stumbled into is like the best NYE show I've listened to all day ;)

November 8th 1970? Ironically that's kind of the last big jammy month from what we have before the early 1971 saloon Dead begins to take shape. The December 1970 stuff really sounds like a prelude to early 1971.

Looking forward to those November Capitol Theatre stories Strider.
I want to hear all about it. The scene, the color of the curtains, who did the light show, what cartoons they played during intermission, all the deets!!

Alright, good to see you're all still rockin' the tunes.
November 8, 2020 - 9:36am

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JimInMD

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11/8/70

I've listened to this show once.. I am going to try and give it a second listen.

I love the last half of this comment from setlists.net

"Finally, the space interlude in the Dark Star is some of the scariest Dead I have ever laid ears on. Its like the Book of Revelation--it'll scare the crap out of you. Listen to it at one in the morning with no lights on, at a loud volume, alone, and check back with me. WOW!"
November 7, 2020 - 1:27pm

#5379

Strider 808808

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Capitol Theater / November 1970

Been preoccupied. Will consider what to write about being there fifty years ago. Attended all four nights.
David Lemeiux was born November 8, 1970. Must have been something in the ethers that day. Pre-destined.
My late brother Rick was at the Harding Theater one of those nights 49 years ago.
November 7, 2020 - 10:27am

#5380

Oroborous

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Today

Have garage work to do: sanding etc so need some good working music! Plus, I’ve been doing the “five year anniversary” plan for years since it’s hard and very limiting to try and do every anniversary. So for instance this year being a “0” that means I shoot for 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, and 95. Since that still leaves a lot, next criteria is shows from those years I was at, thus, going 85...but,
Have been starting a 71 bender though as I went totally grateful yesterday after grueling gig with no tunes this week.
Vegged out to 2/18/71 and was digging it so much followed up with 2/19/71...perfect as I was so whooped I don’t think I could have fully grasped a big spacey show, and Rockin later years would have been too much energy in my delicate state lol.
Realized, that there isn’t much difference between sets then, meaning 2/18 at least is like 2 bookend sets. They both are mostly just songs, with one tasty smaller jam at the end. I need to find more early 71 jams, like biggins’ if there are any? Where’s GOGD or DOC when ya need em? ; )
Definitely going to Poke around there as time allows. Really hoping to finally get to 10/19/73 tomorrow if time allows a full immersion. Haven’t givin that one a spin in a while and it always calls to me in the fall.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace