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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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April 22, 2022 - 2:08pm

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Oroborous

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All Good

We’ll give that a whirl sometime, don’t think we’ve down a 94 so, like you said, extra credit if nothing else.
Rain, rain, raiaaaNnn, the weathers fine! Glad to hear, it’s clouding up here and supposed to…but these days ya never know. Scary shit lately, all kinds of fire already and only April! Duck Pound fire was less than 10 miles away. Luckily they were able to contain right on the edge of town, but lots of folks had to evacuate for a few days.
They were saying front range possible fire conditions today historical, yikes!
Up here not too much better. So good news for you, here, we might have to break out the rain dance!

ISTSHOW knows of what I speak! Rain PLEASE!
Hey, cool list, Rhapsody is a current fav, not sure what version offhand, and Debussy, classical for deadheads lol. I believe Bob has stated he was influenced by Debussy’s angular stuff?
April 22, 2022 - 1:44pm

#2332

Oroborous

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Daverock

Please check your PM, this isn’t the place for this.
Thanks
April 22, 2022 - 1:20pm

#2333

bluecrow

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all good

all good

so i revisited 6/13/94 Set II (yeah I really like it and recommend for the "adventurous" and the Dew is very much muy excellente) and now with nitecat in 1980 and right there with the Let It Grow. Sweet recording.

in other "news" just got some personal good news and a weight lifted off my shoulders. The rain after hours of wind and dust was a harbinger.
April 22, 2022 - 12:48pm

#2334

daverock

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misunderstanding

I don't think anyone was suggesting that having the vaccine and boosters is a bad idea. Just that you can feel unwell after you have had them. That's not misinformation, I've had all the shots and it happened to me, too. Doesn't put me off having the next shot when my time comes though. I think the side effects you get are how you would react if you got the curse itself.
April 22, 2022 - 9:32am

#2335

1stshow70878

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I'm With You Fellers

Second booster yesterday. Sore arm and other aches for me but the wife had much tougher night with aches and little sleep. An unvaxxed neighbor down the street almost died from it last month. Poor guy can't even drive as his fog is bad. Lucky for him there are more life saving treatments now. My buddy from Crested Butte who was one of the very first wave still dealing with long haul. He was in the coma for weeks and had to relearn walking, talking, eating, etc. Thankful we played dead and hid out. Found out you really cannot die of boredom. So I'm with you fellers (like Delmar in Oh Brother) and just plain thankful. My fog is definitely from Connoisseur shelf products.
Jim, hope the folks are OK. Had to look up the McIntosh amp story; priceless.
Gary, great write up on the Meyer sound equipment. Amazing tech in modern sound reproduction. Wish I understood more of it. I'm an analog guy in a digital world I'm afraid.
Cheers to all!
Last 5
- Marty Robbins, Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs: Couldn't resist getting this if only for the original El Paso, but the Big Iron tops it!
- Renaissance, Ashes Are Burning
- RT Vol.3, No.2: Austin 11-15-71
- Debussy, La Mer (always crack myself up when I see his name and remember the yutz in my college music appreciation class that wrote his essay on that guy "W.C.")
- George Gershwin, Rhapsody in Blue and Other Favorites. Very interesting album played by an amazing Steinway-Duo Art "player piano" from the Aeolian Company's 1913 invention. From 1916-1925 all the major artists made rolls for this incredible machine that you could play like a regular piano or it could play without assistance the actual performances of those who have played upon it, even reproducing the dynamics, pedal effects, method of attack, and many other subtleties of expression. It really does sound like Gershwin playing it! Found this album (in stereo no less) at the Salvation Army store for $0.50 in pristine condition; Priceless! Wonder if the artists got royalties when it was used, LOL.
April 22, 2022 - 9:12am

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bluecrow

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Another June 13 in Seattle

So just now recollecting that I in fact saw another June 13 Seattle show - 6/13/94 Memorial Stadium. Some might see the year and shrug their shoulders and turn away. So be it. Stadium was maybe a little over half full. It was cool and misty - I think there's pictures of Jerry Set I wearing a leather bomber jacket. Jerry was bringing it all night long. Huge Scarlet > Fire to open Set II. And the Morning Dew that finishes Set II is pure Jerry's cup runneth over with love.

Only the first 1/2 of Set II circulates as a SB (and it sounds really good), but there are good audience pulls available. If not a POTD maybe extra credit for those who aspire to the DHB hat trick. Next night didn't have such big jams but was really well played also. And it had a That Would Be Something. At the time I didn't realize it was a Paul McCartney tune and my thought was that Hunter had written a beautiful but lyrically simple song that Jerry could easily remember!

Sorry to hear about the hospital "stuff" Jim. Best wishes. As difficult as being in a hospital with a loved one can be, it's good that you can actually be there with them. So often these past 2 years that hasn't been an option for many of us.

Oro - yes, what i heard of 6/24/70 was very much listenable. I'd go with the Ken Lee source, but if that wasn't available I'd still listen to the others. Amazing show. A SB holy grail - sadly almost certainly not recorded by the crew. The Not Fade Away that opens that last set is crazy good and segues into a kick ass Easy Wind.

Second booster 2 weeks ago. Vaccines are a "miracle."

Back to our regularly scheduled programming. Onward : - )
April 22, 2022 - 8:54am

#2337

Oroborous

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Old folks boogie

Down on the farm. Sounds like a hoot! (Just teasing as one who’s been there)
Hope they’ll be well soon!!

Bluecrow: 6/24/70, I’ll mark that down and we’ll have to slip it in…you say it’s listenable?
April 22, 2022 - 8:18am

#2338

JimInMD

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6/80

I'm all over that. Just back from couple days in the hospital with one of my parents in their mid 80's, so an 80's show fits that bill. Also excited to hear the new price placed ever so gently on Archive.org. What a gift.

Thanks all.. lots of good stuff these last few days.

Over and out.
April 22, 2022 - 7:38am

#2339

Oroborous

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DV +

Glad your back. Sorry, just saw the PM. Haven’t had time for here lately.
Great minds think alike though. I was going to inquire about checking out that 80s show of nitecat.

Yeah, sorry but I’m with Jim and I think he handled it fine.
Misinformation is not opinion, and it’s getting out of control.
April 22, 2022 - 7:37am

#2340

bluecrow

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6/13/80

yeah DV, let's jump on the John Deere and join nitecat in Seattle. I listened to Set II but it was just on my laptop speakers, which are decidedly not optimal so it would good to listen on my old Sennheisers. Wild that you got locked out. I find that as of late Recaptcha will suddenly get a wild hair and its just wave after wave of challenges.

Bonner Springs makes me think of the next show on that tour - Lousiville 7/6/90, and specifically the He's Gone > jam. IIRC good friend's brother was front row in front of Jerry and was eyeballs deep and way way out there. Brother told my friend that Jerry was locked in on him during that jam and had the most gnarly crazed look about him as he played. And years ago as I listened to it I could feel the complete holy shit energy about it. That sequence got released as bonus material on View from the Vault I, which I don't own (low on funds, pick an choose guy back in the day.)

Found myself listening to the Ken Lee source for electric set for 6/24/70 Capital Theatre. Yowza. I can't recall doing that show as a POTDWD but feel like it had to have happened given what a monster show that is. Whole show with all the acoustic material is up in a Hance/SirMick transfer.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace