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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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October 2, 2021 - 8:14am

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DeadVikes

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Dick's 20 1976

76 is such an interesting year for the Dead. So many great shows and yet so many songs not played until 77 or 78.
This show is great and like Jim I like the Lazy Lighting Supplication. Was this the last Cosmic Charlie? Nice St. Stephen NFA.

What's next?
October 1, 2021 - 1:20pm

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wilfredtjones

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3/24/81 Shakedown

I've been enjoying that one ever since it was featured on 30 Days of Dead. You're right, it's at least a top 10, if not top 5 for me.

9/25 is an absolute classic with the Grateful Dead transcending through some tough times. I think Rex Jackson had recently passed away suddenly and unexpectedly.
October 1, 2021 - 12:10pm

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Oroborous

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9/25/76..

It is....
...thought we were going 74 lol, but ole DV called an Omaha audible at the line, which is nice, because 76 sounds better to me, as 74 is too close to the box stuff, and no offense to anyone, but I’m still kinda burnt on pre hiatus stuff, so 76 sounds good!
I’ve been really digging the 91/81 self imposed cleanse/distraction, but 76 will be a nice cleanse from the cleanse lol.

Speaking of 91/81, finished my 91 quota for now, and with the completion of 3/23/81 and 3/24/81 I only have 3/28 left which I hope to get to tonight or tomorrow...

But first I must praise these last 2 Looooondon Rainbow shows as they are stellar! They seemed to get a little better each night of this run, with a big step up on the 23rd. Overall great show, with the tours only Bird Song, set opener no less, Lay Me Down, cool Playing and jam, continued into the other one, Stella etc, and a rare Casey Jones! Sweet!

The 24 first set is awesome cept for the cowboy Bob BS, sorry, had to skip that, but is more than made up for with otherwise good set list.
SHAKEDOWN!...whether you listen to this show or not, YOU MUST! check out this Shakedown!!
I can’t believe I’ve never heard or heard about this one...everyone goes on about the next show, which is a good Shakedown, and I’ll be comparing as soon as I get a good chance, but I don’t recall 3/28 being this good?
From there they keep ascending until He’s Gone, which is ok, but perhaps too much of a pressure drop?
Fun drums, into wheel, and Trucking, but then status quo enders...
Nice false start Brokedown to round it all out!
If you dig 81, I think you’ll really enjoy these 2 shows!

Ok next up 9/25/76!
Next after?, ...Probably hit the other half and that Essen show...
October 1, 2021 - 9:03am

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JimInMD

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Dick's 20

Love that release.. fall '76 has some good stuff. Check out Jerry's work in the Supplication Jam.
October 1, 2021 - 6:18am

#3155

DeadVikes

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74

That is great Bluecrow. Might be a good story for liner notes at some point in time.

Funny, I was just listening to Dick's #12 this week.

Of course I would love to see an October Winterland Box with video released, however, not sure they would go back to that again.
If they ever did, it would rival the sell out time of GSTL.

Looking at 9/25/76 Capital Centre for today. The first half of Dick's #20. Need some 76, it has been a while. Hope you all can join me on this one.
September 30, 2021 - 7:46pm

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JimInMD

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More '74

mhammond had it right many years ago. He called for a WOS box.. box up all the remaining '74's and give us a box.

I have to say, although the great ones are gone, it's not too late. We could have said the same thing about 1972 before we got the trunk.. I mean, they did release a good portion of this and decided for the box and re-released the already released ones for good measure.

Give us WOS Box Set Dave.. and include 2/22 and 2/23 as bonus discs.

(true confession, I love 1974 GD)
September 30, 2021 - 4:50pm

#3157

icecrmcnkd

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Nice story BlueCrow

I suspect that the remaining 74’s will trickle out as DaP’s.
Too few remaining to Box ‘em up.
Need them for subscription bait.
September 30, 2021 - 9:13am

#3158

Oroborous

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9/28/75

Oo oo oo, mr Kotter!
Yasssss, that sounds like a good start today!
Then imma gonna continue on with Spring Europe 81, believe I’m up to3/23/81?

74 you say?
Perhaps we should do some mañana for a little FAC?...

Yas WTJ, what will be next indeed?
I say he trickles a couple more biggies out, and then lumps what’s left, pieces and all into a “74” box....

7/25/74 is the big dog on paper, though I think I recall liking 5/25/74 better, but ya know how that goes situationally etc. 6/20/74 certainly should be near the top of a 74 list....I thought 5/12 and 6/8 were ok, 7/12 I don’t recall, though I’ve heard it? Ya know something will happen with the February shows....the rest I’m not familiar with?

BCROW: cool story! Thanks for sharing.

JIM: “I felt 3’ tall and just wanted it to stop” lol...I remember my first time after like 12 hours or more, eventually at least lying in bed wishing I could fall asleep, and thinking “hmmmm, so this is what they mean by your either on the bus or off”, thinking it wasn’t ever going to fully go away and thus I’d be “on the bus” forever lol, and wasn’t sure yet how I felt about that?
Eventually I think I finally was able to go to sleep. The jury’s still out on the rest...
September 30, 2021 - 8:13am

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bluecrow

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7/25/74

a quick story related to this show. - I didn't attend but a funny thing happened a "few" years later. if i already shared this story here in the fog of the last year and a half, i apologize.

ca. 1997 i had recently relocated in the desert southwest, off the beaten path. one other deadhead that I knew of in that tiny town. one night he mentioned a river running buddy of his from Flag had dropped off a list of shows he had to trade would I be interested? On that list was an audience of 7-25-74, International Amphitheatre, graded a C+. It was a '74, i grew up near Chi-Town, of course I asked for that. One night a few weeks later the friend of a friend stops in town briefly and he and I got to talk outside under the desert night sky for a few minutes before he continued down the road.

he had, in fact, taped the show (from the balcony?) - yes it was "his" tape, and i think the only show he ever taped. he was proud of it, myth time, stars in his eyes thinking about that show. i can't remember most anything he told me except that he was seriously d*sed (by someone close to the band?) and the ship of fools encore was absolutely righteous.

listening to it I'd say a C+ grade was generous (of course it was his baby.) but you could hear the music and get into the headspace. I dubbed a copy and sent it to a friend back in Chicago (his day job was at Dr. Wax.) a few weeks later I got an excited letter from him. he had reached out to some folks in one of the elite tape trading forums and found out that there were no tapes of this show known to be in circulation. none. zip. zero. a big goose egg. and so not only a non-circulating '74 but also a non-circulating '74 Dark Star (or DS jam for some) and in that there was a Slipknot tease. so this obscure tape caused something of a stir. the folks who were putting together the first volume of the Deadheads Taping Compendium wanted my friend to write a review for the first edition but then decided it was too late to get it in (already in galley i guess.) my buddy was able to trade it for some pretty cool stuff at the time. years later the board finally began to circulate, its in the vault and parts of it have been featured in Jam of the Week, the taping section, 30 days of the dead. but not clear if it was in the vault way back in '97.

so yeah, Dave. L, release the 7/25/74 hounds also!

and 2/22 and 2/23 absolutely need to see the light of day sooner rather than later
September 30, 2021 - 7:35am

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JimInMD

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You Had Me at 1974

I'd add 2/22 and 2/23. Man... why didn't they do a Winterland '74 Box Set?

I can't believe how many 74's have been released and how few we have left. I did a quick count.. of the 40 shows performed that year, 28 have either been released or partially released (I did this really quickly, I missed be off by a show or two). This means only 12 are not already in the ether? And a few of these are not ready for prime time.

Still.. a few gems to see the light, love your list Wilfred.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace