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  • Oroborous
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    Easy Now!

    Our best wishes for DHB of course, but folks should know, this ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around....proper safety equipment should be used at all times!
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

    LOL, actually, I was just trying to cast a wide net and provide some choices while we wait for the Fox in the Box...
    The first list is one Dave put out early on with possible choices. Please see below. As you can see, he’s been chipping away at this list over the years, so I though it might be interesting to check some of this out.
    The second bunch (previous post) are just holes I’m trying to fill from specific tours I’m systematically trying to tag.
    The others are the 74s that I’ve never heard before...

    I just went with 6/9/76 as no one had picked anything and there was work that needed to be done requiring fuel...unfortunately most of that is sanding with the best sander so haven’t been able to really hear lol.

    Again, just some suggestions for others to pick from since I’ve been kinda hogging the mic lately lol.

    AND, DISCLAIMER, Do Not Listen to more than two shows a day unless you’ve received permission from your medical staff! Failure to do so may cause permanent damage, state of dangerous levels of Euphoria, psychotic episodes, divorce, child services intervention and/or removal of children, loss of income, sanity, and societal connections, loss of hearing, fatigue, diarrhea, dizziness, nausea, headache, and projectile vomiting.

    DAVES POSSIBLE LIST
    -1/20/68 Eureka DS
    -4/21/69 Ark DS
    -4/23/69 Ark DS
    -1/2/70 Fillmore DS - DaP 30 ✔️
    -1/3/70 Fillmore p/o - Dap 30 ✔️
    -9/19/70 Fillmore DS
    -11/7/71 Harding DS
    -1/2/72 Winterland
    -8/24/72 Berkeley DS
    -2/15/73 Dane DS
    -5/26/73 Kezar (BB)
    -6/10/73 RFK DS
    -6/30/73 Universal Amp. DS
    -9/11/73 W&M DS
    -5/17/74 PNE - PNW Box ✔️
    -5/19/74 Portland - PNW Box ✔️
    -6/23/74 Miami DS - DaP 34 ✔️
    -7/31/74 Dillon - DaP 2 ✔️
    -9/28/75 Lindley - 30Trips ✔️
    -6/14/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
    -6/15/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
    -10/3/76 Cobo - 30Trips ✔️
    -5/18/77 Fox
    -5/26/77 Baltimore
    -11/4/77 Colgate - DaP 12 ✔️
    -1/18/78 Stockton
    -1/22/78 Eugene - DaP 23 ✔️
    -1/15/79 Springfield
    -8/30/80 Spectrum
    -10/14/80 Warfield
    -3/9/81 MSG
    -5/16/81 Cornell - 30Trips ✔️
    -8/30/83 Hult
    -10/21/83 Worcester - 30Trips ✔️
    -10/9/84 Worcester
    -11/2/84 Berkeley
    -9/18/87 MSG - 30Trips ✔️
    -7/29/88 Laguna
    -10/26/89 Miami DS - 30Trips ✔️
    -12/27/89 Oakland
    -10/27/90 Zenith- 30Trips ✔️
    -6/22/91 Soldier Field DSJ
    -9/26/91 Boston DS
    -3/29/93 Albany HCSS
    -9/13/93 Spectrum DS

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    Apparently he is doing well.. the drooling and seizures have stopped for now. He enjoys looking out the window and smelling flowers. Next week they plan on starting with one song a day hoping if they ease him back in a little at a time, the PTSD side effects will be minimized.

    We are hoping to build up some tolerance so he can begin doing one set shows by early next year.. but the doctors are warning us he may never be able to do three set shows in a single day ever again.

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    yeah, Jim

    I looked at that and thought "what kind of challenge is this? you think I can't listen to 3 shows a day, day after day after day?"

    staying calm

    on that list is 9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich. I've mentioned this a couple of times in '21 though never flat out called for it as a potd. High rec to the Usbourne Matrix of this show - solid '74 show with some excellent glimpses of hall atmosphere from the audience component.

    for now I'm going back to the '74 International Amphitheatre cause its been awhile.

    however, my near future (this coming week, month, Sunday?) "for the faithful" pick for the POTD regulars here might well be the first east coast show after the '72 Europe tour.

    Dillon Stadium 7/16/72. I've "sat" on this for awhile. So there are some tape issues, e.g. the audience source at the beginning is skewed hard left channel and crazy raw. However, said audience source will fascinate some, though it may drive away others. I'm in the fascinated crowd. All instruments present in kick ass 11 volume. unlike anything I've heard from this era. a crazy window into the stadium sound. the Cold Rain and Snow for gods sake. The Playing in the Band is on another level (GOGD needs to hear this one.)

    Eventually it settles into a SBD that's a couple generations removed from the master. And its an excellent show. Maybe not on the level of its bastard twin 7/18 Roosevelt Stadium. But did you know that the some of the Allman Bros showed up that night at Dillon? Cause I didn't! this was one of "those" shows - how did I not know this earlier? - given how much I am looking forward to the release of 6/10/73.

    onward :)

    edit - also yes to 8/30/80. and maybe a look and listen to 8/24/80 Grand Rapids, nice audience pull from a venue that definitely wasn't on the beaten path. 1st set is an excellent one from that era i think.

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    That is a great list. 8/30/80 sounds good to me. The Spectrum.

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    I just got a PM from Mr. DHBrewer. After reading Oro's post, DHB driffted off into a catatonic state.. in and out of some fourth dimension.

    She asked if we could give him at least a few days to get through the list. I said yes. Hope I didn't overstep my boundries.. onward folks. It's fun here.

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    I was actually at that one. I was perched up in the balcony, and kept drifting in and out of conciousness, truth be told. I do remember them opening the second set with Shakedown, and people moving out of their seats to dance. It felt things were loosening up a bit. Checking with Deadbase, I notice they followed this with Lost Sailor/Saint of Circumstance, which I didn't know at the time - I guess I drifted off again at this point for a bit !
    I didn't dance myself, but I was able to walk out of the Rainbow unassisted at the end.

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    9/25/76✔️ Nice change up, really need to hit the 76 box more as I’ve barely touched it after the initial run through...
    3/28/81✔️Watched this on YouTube last night. Not sure I’ve ever watched the whole thing strait through?
    Awesome show, this spring 81 Europe tour has been great! This Shakedown is a top pick, but I still think I liked tge 24 better? Chever way, can’t go wrong! The second set is good, but the first set is a monster!
    Second is pretty status quo and Pete is interesting, (I kept waiting for him to trip over JGs guitar wire lol). But he gets old about the time he gets bored...fun, but not ground breaking.
    Not sure which show I liked best? Probably overall 3/24, but that first set of 3/28 is hot, and 3/23 is no slouch either...

    Suggestions you say?
    How bout something off of Dave’s initial wish list he put out:
    1/18/78
    1/15/79
    8/30/80
    10/14/80
    3/9/81
    8/30/83
    7/29/88
    12/27/89
    6/22/91

    Or randomly, or to fill in holes:
    4/21/84
    12/6&7/81
    6/24, 25, 28/91
    11/8, 23, 24, 25, 29/79
    4/6, 7, 8, 12, 14, 19, 21, 78
    Or, since 74 was mentioned:
    6/30/74
    9/14/74
    9/20/74
    10/16/74
    Or
    6/9/76 etc.

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    76 is such an interesting year for the Dead. So many great shows and yet so many songs not played until 77 or 78.
    This show is great and like Jim I like the Lazy Lighting Supplication. Was this the last Cosmic Charlie? Nice St. Stephen NFA.

    What's next?

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    3/24/81 Shakedown

    I've been enjoying that one ever since it was featured on 30 Days of Dead. You're right, it's at least a top 10, if not top 5 for me.

    9/25 is an absolute classic with the Grateful Dead transcending through some tough times. I think Rex Jackson had recently passed away suddenly and unexpectedly.

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    It is....
    ...thought we were going 74 lol, but ole DV called an Omaha audible at the line, which is nice, because 76 sounds better to me, as 74 is too close to the box stuff, and no offense to anyone, but I’m still kinda burnt on pre hiatus stuff, so 76 sounds good!
    I’ve been really digging the 91/81 self imposed cleanse/distraction, but 76 will be a nice cleanse from the cleanse lol.

    Speaking of 91/81, finished my 91 quota for now, and with the completion of 3/23/81 and 3/24/81 I only have 3/28 left which I hope to get to tonight or tomorrow...

    But first I must praise these last 2 Looooondon Rainbow shows as they are stellar! They seemed to get a little better each night of this run, with a big step up on the 23rd. Overall great show, with the tours only Bird Song, set opener no less, Lay Me Down, cool Playing and jam, continued into the other one, Stella etc, and a rare Casey Jones! Sweet!

    The 24 first set is awesome cept for the cowboy Bob BS, sorry, had to skip that, but is more than made up for with otherwise good set list.
    SHAKEDOWN!...whether you listen to this show or not, YOU MUST! check out this Shakedown!!
    I can’t believe I’ve never heard or heard about this one...everyone goes on about the next show, which is a good Shakedown, and I’ll be comparing as soon as I get a good chance, but I don’t recall 3/28 being this good?
    From there they keep ascending until He’s Gone, which is ok, but perhaps too much of a pressure drop?
    Fun drums, into wheel, and Trucking, but then status quo enders...
    Nice false start Brokedown to round it all out!
    If you dig 81, I think you’ll really enjoy these 2 shows!

    Ok next up 9/25/76!
    Next after?, ...Probably hit the other half and that Essen show...

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....between Four Winds and myself. Middle of TN Jed. I'm staring straight at that Morning Dew like a headlight on a northbound train.

What a release Jim, thanks for this pick. I am with Daverock on this one, might be one of the best releases.

I shied away from this one forever, because it was not a complete show. What a huge mistake that was.

Sound quality is A++. If Dave's 34 sounds anything like this we are in for a huge treat.

The China Rider is awesome. Two unreal Eyes. Yes, That Loose Lucy is really good. How about that Morning Dew. WRS, Truckin! All top notch stuff.
To the great soul that turned me on to this release, this one is for you!

Tommorow, we hit up FourWinds pick, From Egypt with Love!

Be well folks!

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....features an If I Had The World To Give. A top five song that I wish they played more often. The others?
Gentlemen, Start Your Engines (saw one and it was pretty cool)
Brother Esau (never saw one)
Built To Last (tough lyrics. I get it. Saw two)
Clementine (nada)
France (saw three. In dreams).
Dead & Co brought back World To Give. And they were pretty nice.

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On the waterproof shuffle, WOS Road Trips. Both shows are excellent as is the sound. 6/16 highlights for me are China>Rider (powerful), Race is On (one of the better versions, sometimes in these electric versions the vocals are all over the place.. this one is a ok), a monster Eyes (more on this later) and nice Big River and a monster PITB.

Excellent

But 6/18 delivers the goods. One of the all-time Eyes>China Dolls. The performance and transition flawless, poweful and seamless. A jazz masterpiece. I think the version on the GD Movie (10/19?) is more popular and certainly sounds better.. but on the movie soundtrack, they cut and edited out one of the jams. I think the transition from 6/18 is better, and it's my favorite. Not a wasted note or chord, everything on purpose and just exactly right. but I am biased. A high water mark.

WRSuite, TOO, I Know It's a Sin, Stella Blue, and perhaps the best Morning Dew of the period rounds out the release. There is a bit of mayhem but it works.. just be patient. I have gotten used to the I know it's a Sin jam and when I listen to it.. I fill in the words. Powerful stuff. A potent part of the set.

Too bad it's a chop job, but it's a great release.. also, to my ears, this was the show where Jeffrey Norman went from Jeffrey the Grey to Jeffrey the White. This was about the period when he really stepped up his game to wizard status. This sounds (to me) head and antlers above the best copies on the archive. Working directly from the Master Reels and by this point in his career having acquired quite the bag of tricks makes a big difference.

That's all I have. Also.. I was remiss last night asking for more time for the new 74 release. There is a whole other place for that on the Dave's Picks thread. We should keep this the way it is. I like the idea of 5/2/70 on it's birthday and I hope someone brings up the 5/15/70 road trips as well.

Edit: Thank goodness they deemed whitewater kayaking as an acceptable social distance sport.. but the shuttles in the truck are a bit taboo.. but not if you bike the shuttle, which just gives you a little extra alone time to grove to the GD.

On it for Saturday. Good idea Strider, Jim and Vguy.

Vguy, interesting you bring up "If I had the world to give", I used to sing this song to my daughter when she was really young.

Okay, never thought I would post that but you brought it up.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?
If I had a song to sing, I'd sing it to you
As long as you live, lullaby or maybe a plain serenade
Wouldn't you laugh, dance, and cry or be afraid at the change you made
I may not have the world to give to you
But maybe I have a tune or two
Only if you let me be your world
Could I ever give this world to you
But I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give, long as I live.
If I had a star to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you have the time
To watch it shine, watch it shine
Or ask for the moon and heaven too? I'd give it to you.
Well maybe I've got no star to spare, or anything fine or even rare,
Only if you let me be your world, could I ever give this world to you.
Could I ever give this world to you....
....why they only played this live four or five times is beyond me. The lyrics remind me of Attics Of My Life. Which, incidentally, is a song I sung for my son when he was really young.
They brought that one back, to much rejoicing.

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A good time to check the mail. Got a package from Bolo24, CIA.

Gonna let it sit for the required time.. just in case it self destructs or something.

What a hoot. Thanks Bolo.

For what it's worth.. to wide awake to sleep.. youtube is serenading me with the acoustic set of 10/31/80. Works for me.

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That is cool Vguy! This band sure brings us all the emotions.

What we all wouldn't give right now to hear, "We will be back in just a little bit, so everybody hang loose." Man, I am trying real hard to hang loose.

Spill the beans Jim, what did Bolo send you for winning the contest?

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Great idea. Count me in. Extra credit for the NRPS set.

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I've got the New Riders set.. I will do my best to send it as Alac or Flac to anyone interested. Just PM me.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?

I guess we all know the answer. Sorry had to say it!

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You ever listen to the 10/17/78 version that is not on the bonus disc. If you haven't during space right before If I had the World to Give, you can hear a woman say to Jerry "I want to take banjo lessons" He responds that he doesn't do that anymore... bob t

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What a great show! Love the acoustic set . Garcia says something about demon rum right before Dire Wolf.

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Mark me down for it.

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You saw a lot of great shows!!! P.S. You will never believe it is raining in Rhode Island again!! Be good everyone bob t

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Winterland October 1978

Can any one or TPTB tell me why we can't get all 5 shows released like June '76 box??

Thanks.

PS, Wouldn't be funny if this was the fall box set to be released Oct 6 according to LMG.

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Bob T, I didn't make it to this show, I went to the shows on Oct 20 and 21. My brotther told me about this incident with the girl and the banjo lessons. Garcia used to give banjo lessons when he worked at Swain's House of Music down in Palo Alto, my brother knows a couple of guys who took banjo lessons from Garcia back in the early 60s.

I don't teach anymore..

How cool is that? Nice call Bob T and cool story BTK!

WOS Rocked me yesterday, both 6/16 & 6/18 were so great to hear again.
I am fully pumped now for the Jai-Alai Fronton Release.
Can't Wait and well executed stoke you good pickers you.

Waited until later in the day, to get the full effect, and it was wonderful.

The Eyes > China Doll & WRS > TOO > It's A Sin > Stella is such an incredible trip to take.

And having read your posts I knew what was coming all day, and the magic part, even with that and having heard the show many times in the past, I couldn't wait and was excited when they broke into Morning Dew and it is EPIC, better than I'd remembered.

And that's what this trip is all about!!

6/18/74 - Eyes, WRS & Morning Dew up there with best evers.

Alright set the time machine for Winterland October 1978 you say?!?!

Right away!

Had to start with If I Had The World To Give after that sweet serenade last night courtesy of you all.

JIMINMD - What's in the box?

It's gonna be a good day!

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Jim, If you're saying you have that day for NRPS, I'd take a copy. I don't have?

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Got em.. will send later today.

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I too opted for the full 10/21/78 show - on "Roses" now, and I have enjoyed this show so far, save for Bobby's slide playing during "Sugaree" and "Stagger Lee." My copy of this show (the Miller one that Vguy posted,) sounds pretty darn good.

I know that 5/2/70 DiP 8 is on tap for it's 50th anniversary Saturday, but what about tomorrow? May I suggest DiP 5 - 12/26/79, one of my personal favorite picks, for Friday's listen?

Of course, I think a number of folks should be receiving DaP34 tomorrow... but if not...

Peace

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Thanks, my man!

Ouch - this patch in the climax of "Stella" hurts. Still - this has been a good listen!

Peace

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I have the complete shows on a HD but they aren’t loaded on the microSDXC card that is currently in my music player.
So, chop job it was.
Yes, definitely time for the whole run to be Plangentized, Normanized, and packed up in a nice little Box that fits on a shelf.

I didn’t initially go for RT because I wanted complete shows, not chop jobs. Probably the wrong choice because I missed out on the bonus disc which I believe allows you to reassemble a complete 10-21 set2.
But, all that can be remedied with the release of a Winterland Oct. 78 Box. Bring it on Dave.

Now I’ve ventured into torrent territory and am listening to 3-25-83 148801.Clugston.
Sound quality is not terrible, but the cymbals are a bit too loud.

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Definitely a different feel than our listen yesterday with the wonderful RT2.3.

Sound quality is mediocre at best and I agree the patches are rough.

Does anyone have a tracking arrival date for tomorrow for Dave's #34.

Mine still is saying label created.

Conekid, check your PM.

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Agreed! Not the same high as yesterdays '74 trip.. But The Other One is ripping and has a moment of IT for sure.

Actually having listened again, I'm surprised that this got released with the number of patches that were required. I'm not holding my breath on a rerelease.. there's so much other stuff in that there Vault.

Fun to revisit.

12/26/79 tomorrow you say? So Be It!

I might have to dig in to some 5/1/70 for it's 50th as well.

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But I wasn’t into chop jobs.
I did start ordering when full shows started coming and I got those bonus discs.

I also didn’t order Rockin’ The Rhein, and missed out on that bonus disc. Still don’t know why I didn’t order it.

....just wrapped up. 6.8 goonie birds out of 10. Mojo working goes on a little too long, but everything after that was fire. Very nice Must have Been The Roses. Moving onto an anniversary of a show i attended. Irvine Meadows 4.30.89. Box Of Rain, Iko to open the second set.

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Thanks!

Luckily we have a new C. M. audience release so there is a better patch for the Stella Blue and some other small patches but, on a bad note the taper only got a partial set 1 so no new patch for Sugaree which sucks.

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If ya don't mind me calling you that. Is this the NRPS 5/2 you have?

nrps1970-05-02.sbd.reel master.cass.dat.flac16

Thanks!

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Ollin> Promised, Sugaree, Ramble On, Passenger, LLR, all good! Stagger- Miracle brings it down.

Bertha, Good Love it's back, MHBTR sweet, Estimated blowing the roof off! He's Gone okay, this show kinda goes up and down. Mojo starts out nice, TOO - Stella - Sugar Mag all good. I got them U.S. Blues.

I think I blew or singed a voice coil in the mid-range speaker yesterday. I got a Emotive xpa-2 amp 70lb monster (all most gave the Fedex guy a hernia). Hard to find speakers that this thing can't blow out. Thinking of going with Airmotiv T2+ loudspeaker anyone familiar with these speakers?

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Yes, there are two versions actually.. I haven't had time to see which one sounds better yet. I think the one that comes as a whole show is slightly better.. I need to figure that out a couple people hit me up.

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The one I have listed is the SIRMick seed.

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

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You might just have a better version than the two I have. It seems to be one or two steps closer to the master reel and my best, although it's a soundboard, has just a touch of hiss.

Shot you a message..

If you could compare All I Ever Wanted from yours to this..

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.sbd-fm-aud.unknown.108955.flac…

That should give us the answer. Yours seems to be a generation or two better.

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If there is any interest in the more complete version I am seeding it at the etree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?torrentId=588035

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

01 //Workingman's Blues
02 Brown Eyed Handsome Man
03 Truck Drivin' Man
04 If You Hear Me When I'm Leavin'
05 tuning
06 Whatcha Gonna Do//
07 All I Ever Wanted
08 Henry
09 Lodi
10 Weir intro and tuning
11 Saw Mill *
12 The Race Is On *
13 Mama Tried *
14 Me And My Uncle *
15 The Weight

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson - rhythm guitar, vocals
David Nelson - lead guitar, vocals
David Torbert - bass, vocals
Jerry Garcia - pedal steel guitar
Mickey Hart - drums

guest:

Bob Weir - guitar, vocals *

Notes:

- This has been provided by an anonymous source.
- There were several nasty high-pitched squeals caused by feedback, which have been removed and some level adjustments have been made.
- Although the start of "Workingman's Blues" is cut this is the first time that any of it has circulated. It's completely missing from the FM source.

edited and mastered
SIRMick
March 2013

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Along with 8/13/75 this made me a dead head... I love this version so much.... I use to listen to it every day in college before I started getting tapes... bob t.... P.S. i am excited to hear Donna tonight!!! bob t

Cool to hear your story re: Wharf Rat & 8/13/75

Definitely have some tunes like that, first Dead album I got was WALSTIB from the ole Columbia Records and Tapes club, 11 Albums for a Penny!

Anything from that album takes me back but in particular Born Cross-Eyed and that Europe '72 Jack Straw.

Despite heavy rotation in bootleg circles, never heard 8/13/75 until the Dead released One From The Vault.
But I was stoked when I did get it.

And I totally forgot about Donna tonight! She's a kick, thanks for the flash:)

How's 12/26/79 going everyone? I had to get some 50 year old 5/1/70 in my ear hole.