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  • bluecrow
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    Legend has it that if you click your heels together three times while saying "There's no place like Lille" during the Phil thunderclap intro to The Other One, Bolo himself will post once again on POTDWD.

    1/30/78 - fine choice DV - 1st show of excellent run at the mighty Uptown Theatre. My 1stShow mere days later in Dane Co.

    Jim - trick question indeed! No record of it on the GDHour that I see.

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    I have never heard it Jim. Interesting.

    Okay, here is a pick, 1/30/78, Uptown Theater. Can't remember if we ever hit this one, so if we did apologies in advance.

    And go Twins. First playoff win since 2004 and first series win since 2002. A long time ago. On to Houston!

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    Not Phil, It sounded an awful lot like Pigpen, but not quite. I was thinking it was a stand in or guest or something.
    I arrived at my destination and had to turn off my truck before they said anything about who was singing.

    I guess it was Pigpen, it was just a rehearsal and I suspect he showed up or tried to practice with the band. It was very good, especially Jerry's solos. Perhaps the last thing he did with the GD which is why it sounded different?

    Has anyone else heard of this? They did say it was from January or February 73.

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    Jim, Phil?

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    I always liked Lille

    It gets an A for overall vibe.

    I did revisit 4/7, 5/11 and 5/26. First, I always held Rotterdam in the highest regard but giving a relisten to the whole show and man, start to finish it's great. So is 5/26 but unlike Oro I have tried really hard not give this too many listens. When you finally hear that suite in the second set, in it's whole it's more like a symphony than a rock and roll show. Nothing leads, nothing follows it just flows, moody, brawling, reflective, sad and hopefull from minute to minute. 5/7 is another other big favorite. I think I like 5/3 a bit more than a few. I like to listen to 5/4 with 5/3, 5/10 with 5/11, etc. It's hard to discount the final four shows of the tour too.

    I also fit in the 85 Red Rocks show the folks at the DaP 47 thread were howling about (8/7/85). A fine little show with some memorable highlights.

    I agree with the comments on 73 v 72 also. To me, when they took off in January off, they left behind the smooth continuity of 72. They had a really good show and set structure going and the new Wake and other material they brought into the fold took some time to gain it's footing.
    The beginning of the year was rebuilding, where are going to put Let Me Sing Your Blues away and You Ain't Woman Enough for example. A little of this disjointedness continued into '74. Nonetheless, '74 was the polished version of this era and direction of the band with their new Grateful Dead Records material.

    Speaking of which.. David Gans played this passage from I think January 73 on the radio a month or two ago. It was a really good performance of King Bee I had never heard before. Supposedly, it was lifted from a practice session. Any guesses to who sang vocals? I was kinda floored by it.

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    This vinyl was part of the big box "The Story of the Grateful Dead". I almost ordered it, then checked the box and there it was. So if you already have the box,,, UB set on Without a Net.

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    Nice work OB and Firstshow. What a feat! I am sure you both will need a break. It is quite the box. Not sure if they will ever put another box like this with a full tour.

    Go Twins. They are due. They have lost 18 straight playoff games.

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    5-16-72 Lille: Lively, despite sound issues early on. Again every song played well. Energetic, these guys are durable! Classic Truckin' with Jerry going off on it. The TOO seems advanced for '72, short but completely fully developed. Some of this tour's TOOs rival Dark Stars in this regard. Best yet TOO? It's a contender. Hurts Me Too was stellar.

    5-16-72 Luxembourg: Were those first two a sound check? The treatment of Big River I could see as a regular thing but sadly no. Almost starts like the '77 intros to Jack-a-Roe, and Bob gets an interesting part not seen later. Radio broadcast maybe quickened the pace on many 1st set songs? The TOO not nearly up to the level of the other Other Ones. A short and sweet show as I'm finishing the usual NFA> GDTRFB> NFA ending now. How many kinds of radio bandwidths did Europe have back then?

    A shout out to Bluecrow who clued us in on some easy to get to petroglyphs in the front yard of his San Juan River, Utah cave up in the hills. A friend of the devil is a friend of mine. Fantastic stuff and an inspiring place for sure. I'm rejuvenated and ready to cruise through the rest of EU72.
    Cheers

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    Good, because I finished the quest on Saturday with a sit down listen to 5/26/72.
    Bad, because everything lately is a blur, so the multiple times I hit 5/24 and 5/25 are now also a blur, so I’ll try to remember some of the standouts?
    5/24: variety pack = Cold Rain and Snow, Dire Wolf, Only Black Peter, You Win Again, Rocking Pneumonia, and Lovelight. Most were good with Win Again and Hurts Me Too making the album cut!
    The second set sequence they do step it up, and I liked the shorter LL, sadly, Pigs last…
    I hadn’t heard this show before so I did hit it multiple times, though didn’t get a great listen in…
    Generally, by now, they’ve totally melded and though perhaps early on in this show you might catch a slightly passed the peak vibe, but not sure hearing it alone, out of sequence and/or casually listening you’d notice. Still mostly full on magnificent.
    Part of my problem deciphering is how much these shows do sound alike, sure their all different and have unique nuances, but after so many in a row, they all sorta roll into one…
    5/25/72: this one seemed like it took a bit to build up from good to RJ…, but certainly did!
    Of course the second set sequence was superb, and benefited from the tour unique UJB> Warf Rat> DS> Mags variety mix. Other Variety pack songs= Another awkward Promised Land, a sweet Brokedown, the aforementioned UJB and Rat, with unfortunately the last Sitting on top (another farewell to that 60s pyscho style/energy), and a sweet Sing Me Back Home! The Dark Star of course was RJ (have you ever heard a 72 DS that wasn’t lol), and a nice slightly different GDTRFB/One Mo Saturday finale. Sadly Pigs last Good Lovin, perhaps a bit abbreviated due to fatigue, and an unusual only four songs on the night…
    5/26/72: some call this the greatest Dead show ever, not sure I’d say that, but it is a beast!
    Only did one listen on this one as I’ve had it, gave it a sit down, and honestly, I’m just burned out. Both in general, which unfortunately didn’t help my tour burnout. But I’ve enjoyed every note, and this one didn’t disappoint either!
    Not so much variety, and sadly, only 3 helpings of grease, perhaps due to some being repeated at least a couple times here at the end: Promised Land, Dire Wolf, nice Cumberland, Sugaree returns after more regular play early on, same with Loser, and of course THE Dew! Another sweet Sing Me, and another OMG second set sequence that is definitely RJ! It’s all most too much, when some shows, they basically play another small set AFTER these big powerful sequences, but here they do it again, though why they had to repeat Me&My Uncle yet again I’m not sure? They just did it a year before on Skullfuck so why use up so many slots on this tour that might have made room for another, possibly THE version of something different to make it to vinyl?
    Anywho, A great show and proper fitting ending to one of the all time greatest tours! They Hit most of the usual suspects of the tour, and even managed to nail some album worthy versions, including that magnificent Dew!
    Oh, and how could I not mention the consistently hot PITBs, everyone RJ fo sho…

    Well, this was bittersweet. I’m glad I finally went for it even if the timing was poor and I didn’t feel I went as deep as I usually do when hitting a tour. But I did hit every show in order, including a few I hadn’t gotten to yet, though I did miss some of 4/7 and 4/8 which I’m going to do this week, perhaps with a couple other partial rehashes, though I really need to hear some other Dead for a much needed cleanse…
    I’ll, prolly think of more insights, but for now I’ll just comment on something I kept thinking of that DR said awhile back about post Pig Dead. After hitting all those amazing but long 73 box shows, then hitting all these amazing but long 72s,
    Pigs departure really did affect the flow and energy of those long shows. As awesome as those 73 shows are, they can sometimes be a bit monotonous, so they definitely miss not having those little Pig interludes to break things up, keep things moving, add more variety, and give an occasional energy boost. It also made me think a lot about what if Pig hadn’t checked out? By this point in their trajectory perhaps the overly long repetitive nature of LL and Good Lovin, and the old, overripe straight blues numbers, maybe needed to take a break, but think of all the sweet alternatives they were coming up with that just shown so brightly on this tour: Hurts Me Too, Mr Charlie, China Town, 2 Souls, and some old chestnuts like Lied Cheated and Big Boss Man. And who can forget the few but enjoyable Cautions, a tour highlight for me personally.
    You have to wonder what if…what if he was healthy and kept writing and growing as a writer etc?
    I think he would have had to have grown as a byproduct of just being in the band and how they kept changing etc.
    He may have transitioned from being the main focus, but there probably would have been some monumental new stuff that might even have been better, but alas we’ll never know…
    Well, hopefully we didn’t lose ole 1stshow in some unknown rural border jail lol, and he’ll fill us in on his travails.
    Until next time, keep it forward, never straight…and get yo self a shotgun and a pocketful of shells ; )

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    I heard on the YouTube broadcast from the In Groove in Phoenix, AZ that Without A Net is coming to vinyl November 17, 2023 as a Brick n Mortar release.

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I believe that was the decision, but I know GOGD is also jamming the 50th of 5/1/70 today.

This one seems to be missing the 2nd set, but it has 1 and 3, and sounds typical Charlie Miller awesome!
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16/…

I'm going with Dick's 5, as it was my suggestion, and one of my all-time favorites! Shakedown>UJB Reprise encore? Yes, please :)

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....starts off with Cold Rain & snow, C.C. Rider and Dire Wolf. No complaints so far!

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@VGuy - Dick's 5 12/26/79 is gonna rock!

@OTIS - Nice PICK bro!

Didn't mean to muddy the waters I just had to listen to some acoustic Dead to start my day, anniversary and all.. so I hopped that train.

But that next train be passing later today and I'll be hopping aboard it to join you all fo sure!

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Nice pick and, the best thing is it's Betty Board.

Starts off with CR&S you know it's gonna be Hot!! haha

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Now maybe I can catch up with all theses great picks!

Wait...every day is like a weekend.

Never mind.

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Hot DAMN!

"Alabama>Promised Land" should have ended more sets. Scorching!!!

What a wonderful set - incredibly strong playing throughout. Aside from the closing duo, I particularly liked the opening combo of "CR&S" and "CC Rider," the "Brown-Eyed Women," and Bobby's reading of "LLR."

Got some meetings to pretend to care about, so Set 2 will have to wait for a bit.

Peace

the little brother in the Christmas story...trying to keep up with the bigger kids in his giant snow suite!
But I’m trying, lol

- 5/23&24/69 ✔️ Smoking! Got this a year or so ago. Gets lots of rotation...
RT 2.3 6/16&18/74: do not have yet. I’ve been catching up on the RTs I was missing as they were re-releasesing them regularly almost on schedule with Dave’s. Started at 4.5 and were moving forward until last year then it stopped for some mysterious reason? Started again this winter so I’m up, down, whatever to 3.2, but no news as to when they’ll do next one? This is a bummer because I’ve been drooling for all the volume 2s, which would of been out by now if they’d kept to their schedule. Doooaaaahhh! I have most of vol 1, and at least copies of everything except vol 2...did pick up Dicks 29 and 31 though. Have a copy of 31. Not a big 77 fan but most of 2 shows for $69, WTH....

RT 1.4 10/21&22/78 ✔️ Just went with the chop release, but easy enough with my trusty Album Player SW to put in correct sequence (including bonus disc material). This release is all over the place, but I mostly enjoyed it, and some parts, like most of 10/21 were fuggin ripping! Estimated, Mojo, TOO, and holy shit Batman, forgot how hot that Stella is, patches and all! The rest was ok, though I was preoccupied so maybe missed something. But 10/21 was a pleasant surprise as I don’t normally listen to 78 much. Nice pick, hadn’t heard in too long.
Oh, yeah, that Workd to Give >> A&A was awesome. That song has always been one of my favorite Jer tunes. Yes, it boggles the mind why they didn’t keep playing it? This and Believe it or not, though I like WTG better...I need to check out that 10/17 show as it gives me the “hot” vibe...

Also been sneaking in some E72 shows or at least the good parts. Looking forward to DP 5 12/26/79 today as I continue to sort through great piles of accumulated crap in the lower level. Hopefully get 4/29/72 in tonight on the big boy system. Definetly DP 8 5/2/70 tomorrow. Haven’t heard either of these Dicks in quite a while. Love them both so stoked. So enough rambling, let the tunes begin!
Rock on folks!

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I just got done with set 1 now I have to take a
break to put the fire out, that was blazing.

Takes a whole pail of water just to cool him down.

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I just got the Sting openers from Sam Boyd '93

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DiP 5 was one of the first of the series that I got, and I have been in love with it ever since. The heat of the first set is only enhanced over the course of the next two discs - every tune is a highlight for me. The track after Drums, labeled "Jam 2" is a trip! Sweet "Brokedown", rocking "Around>JGB" (another pairing they should have done more often) and then the awesome "Shakedown>UJB Reprise" encore - just an all around killer show.

This pick is a big reason why I consider the Fall/Winter of 79 to be a pinnacle in the band's illustrious career. Thanks for jamming to this one with me today, and...

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

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You talkin' to me? :)

All 3 nights? I'd like to hear those.

How was Sting at RFK.. you got to see Jerry jam with.

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I only got the last two nights at Sam Boyd and the second night at RFK so far they are from sbd and sbd-aud. The RFK is the one Jerry jammed on so I get to hear it now.

When I was at RFK '93 I unfortunately didn't go in for the openers. I only saw a few Dead show openers, CSN Buffalo '90, Little Feet Giants '91 and Steve Miller Giants '92.

ps. They sound good. Intermission music.
pss. I wish I could get them to you I can only go snail mail.

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Good to see you Oroborous! What burn out?

Bolo, what did you send Jim?

When is the next mind bending contest?

79 has a lot to offer, good pick. Would love to see this one remastered.

Peace folks!

FWB: Nice! I had to look for a minute, but I do have that 5/16/93 opening set after all.

RFK '93: Were peeps raving about it when you got there that Jerry jammed with Sting? Curious

That was trip seeing Donna Jean! She's funny. Bobby Weir and 7/2/89 next week Bro!

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Don't want to say, as I'm not sure he's opened it yet.

Another contest (perhaps) after the warm glow of receiving DaP 34 has subsided a bit.

Does anyone have Dave's #34 yet?

Mine still just says label created, which is not a good sign.

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'RFK '93: Where peeps raving about it when you got there that Jerry jammed with Sting? Curious'

I don't remember people saying much about it I don't think many peep's went in for Sting. I personally was a little worried that last night of the tour I hadn't planned on the RFK shows so I didn't have a plan on how I was going to get home after the show as I was hitch hiking that summer but, I new that I had friends there I tried for two days to find them to get a ride home. So I skipped out during Liberty on a last chance to find them in the lot it was like looking for a needle in a haystack so I started to go up and down the rows in the lot and I hear someone ask me If I would like a cold soda and here it was my buddy I was looking for I was so re-leaved I found them and was not stuck in D C.

Things always seemed to work out at the shows.

12/2679 remaster, I have the vinyl record of this show and that was supposed to be a remaster J. Norman

Have a goodnight everybody see ya tomorrow.

....we saw him the first night in Vegas '93. He was pretty good....Partied a little longer in the lot the second and third shows because we assumed they would be pretty much the same sets (which they were). Sting never sat in either.

FWB: that summer ‘93 story is great! Good times :)

DeadVikes - my tracking stayed shipping notified until today, looks like it might come tomorrow.. hang in there, it’s coming! :)

Reissue 5/2/70 now has CR&S said DL. (Remastered?)
I did not know that..

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There's a lil variety in those set lists, especially the 3rd night

Prob caught wind that he needed to try a little bit harder ;)

Race ya! Portland or Nevada... who gets there first?!?!

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....had focused listening to the first set @ work. Solid. Then phones and clients. Home now. Second set starting. Very familiar with this release, but never got tired of it.

....it was right there! Then they decided to make a left hand turn into a Caution Jam. That then faded into a Mojo jam? (echoes of 10.21.78 sans Lee Oscar's harmonica)....for a few seconds there, is it Stella or a rat in a drain ditch? Ditch it is.

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....good pick dude. Nothing Shaking on Shakedown Street. Ain't that the truth.
12.26.79 gets 8.8 out of 10 goonies.
Harpur College on tap. The cream.
Be safe people. Wash hands. Play Dead.

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Well, I'm ready when you are. In fact I've already listened to half of it.

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Poor Jim was probably sworn to secrecy by agent Bolo to never reveal what the prize was with threat of being put in front of firing squad.

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Thanks man!

The transition from U.J. into Estimated was perfect.

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Perhaps because the Dead are about to blow some college minds wide apart.

Dick's Picks 8, 50 years ago today. Acoustic set for breakfast - very nice indeed :)

Peace

.. sorry for the delay and for getting behind here. It all started a few days ago, when I got a parcel on my front porch addressed from:

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I didn't think much of it.. I set it aside in the part of the front porch where I let mail age for a couple to three days before opening. Then at some point yesterday I got to that stack of mail that had cleared the quarantine period, I opened the package. Now.. I live in a quiet neighborhood for the most part, but immediately upon opening I heard the sound of three large vehicles pull down the street and stop in front of my house. Turned out to be three Lincoln Navigators with dark shaded windows. I did glance briefly at the contents of the package, which was sparse. A change in skivvies, an n95 mask, some minimal food, water a gps device, a high def portable music player with a small graphic of the 5/2/70 Dicks Picks cover, a Visine bottle marked for emergency use only and a new passport with my picture and the name Henry Spencer on it.

After getting in one of the Navigators, we proceeded several miles away to a clearing. When I went to get out of the vehicle, someone placed an ether soaked rag over my face. I am just waking up now from a tranquil dream state, my bed, a thin layer of straw covering the dirt floor. The structure, privative with a thatched roof. There is a stump next to my sleeping space with some items on it including a small laptop with access to the internet somehow.. The bottle of Visine is now empty and I have this strange taste in my mouth. The portable 5/2/70 music player is there, I can hear running water in the background.. rapids of some sort and a small booklet that appears to be instructions. I can hear monkeys howling in the background, something must be going on and it's quite hot and humid here.

Reading the instructions now.. "....barely time to wait.., grab your stuff, put the headphones on, hit play don't forget your passport. Walk out the door ..now. Watch out for the monkey's they are not friendly....." The monkey's all stopped howling in unison, not a good sign. more to co

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Your the tops! Your the tower of Pisa, your the smile on the Mona Lisa...

I don't how you do it but, keep it up brother.

I got to get out today so stay safe and everyone have a great show.

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I Know You Rider, very spiritual ,
Kinda like that feeling I get when I listen to Iggy Pop. Just kidding.
Three set Grateful Dead was a rare bird . 1970 throw in NRPS and one had an awesome , exciting night of music.

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I got a head start on this in the wee small hours this morning, starting with the Dead acoustic set. I realize now this must be my favorite Dead acoustic set. Every rendition here is an all-time favorite. There may be more carefully played "Rider" 's but none more heartfelt and urgent. Well, the whole show is heartfelt and urgent. A half acoustic/electric "Cumberland" - perfect! The crowd is electrified by the "Friend of the Devil". Note the band's half-hearted reprimands when it ends.

Next, the spectacular NRPS set. I didn't realize before that Mickey was still their drummer at this show. It's a treat to hear Mickey as the sole drummer, and I think he's perfect for this music. Marmaduke's vocals are always good for the head. David Nelson's picking is right on point. (dang, I was supposed to see Nelson for the first time last month before the Covid Kabosh) Garcia is tearing it up on pedal steel, you can tell he's having a blast. Here again, the crowd is electrified. McDuke seems pleasantly taken aback by it - witness his exclamation of "far out" after Lodi.

Both sets have a good amount of Dead Freak screams from the audience - like the Aoxomoxoa St. Stephen screams. These are always a welcome addition to the proceedings. For me this cosmic cowboy music is just as deep and profound as the psychedelic electric stuff - next up.

p.s. Jim have you been watching Ozark, or something? :)

Hey y’all! Last night’s show on shakedown stream was a blast! What’s today’s pick? I need to clean my apartment and need some tunes!

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"We're going through some transitions. Our music is not what it was: it's continually changing. What we've been doing in the States lately is having like 'an evening with the Grateful Dead.' We start off with acoustic music with Bobby and I playing guitars, light Drums and very quiet electric bass. Pigpen plays the organ. Then we have a band we've been traveling with, The New Riders of the Purple Sage, where I play pedal steel, not guitar, Mickey plays Drums, and three of our friends from the coast, musicians that we've known for a long time, are fronting the band. So we start off with acoustic music and then The New Riders of the Purple Sage - it's like very snappy electric country-rock, it's kinda hard to describe - and then we come on with the electric Dead, so it keeps us all really interesting, and it's six hours of this whole development thing. By the end of the night it's very high." - Jerry Garcia speaking to Dick Lawson 5/24/70 - England

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For those of you looking for some extra credit on this fine Saturday, here is a link to the Charlie Miller transfer of this immortal show, which contains the full NRPS set and sounds WAY better than the only other version of that set that I can seem to find. It also has the full Dead show, in case some of you don't have the actual release.

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.138227.sbd.miller.flac1648

JimBo - Letting your mail age for a couple - three days... priceless! I hear the news contained therein gets a little smoother that way. Stay safe out there, and watch out for those monkeys!

Peace

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Tell ya all a Story -
At some point shortly after High School, I got a hold of the Mama Tried, Me & My Uncle & The Weight with Bobby Ace from Harpur College, I think it was from the Grateful Dead Hour in around ’88 (can’t confirm that) or maybe it was just filler on a tape. Anyhow, it wasn't properly labeled and didn't have a date, so it was kind of a mystery. When I heard the harmonies & pedal steel on Mama Tried, MAMU I was mesmerized, what is THIS!?! Then The Weight came on, a song I’d grown up hearing on the radio, so familiar and yet never like this. Is that Bobby & Jerry singing? Is this the Grateful Dead playing The Weight (not sure I even knew the song title). I listened to that tape over and over and over. It was unlabeled, there was no internet, I was just a high school kid in Ohio, didn’t have a good trading connection, got most of my “quality” stuff off GD Hour at that point, would sit in front of my tape deck and anxiously wait & look forward to it every week. I loved listening & thinking about that tape. The tape would remain a cherished mystery for years. At some point I lost the tape, and would think about it from time to time, I wonder where that was from? what the hell was that?…

Flash to today. Well all these years later, on it’s 50th anniversary, I can hear that “tape” in it’s proper context along with the most Amazing evening with the Grateful Dead.

What A Long Strange Trip it’s Been!

Grateful Dead coming on in about 10 - 15 minutes.. Thank you!

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If I had to pick just one Dead show to attend out of all the Dead shows ever played, this would be the one. Only gripe, I wish they would have played the full version of Candyman, like the killer version on 5/15/70. Love the Dire Wolf.