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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3231
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    ✔️
    Watched this one on YT. Looked good on paper and thought my recollection was that this was the standout?
    Upon further review: Perhaps a few highlights but overall not as consistent as the previous two?

    Jerry has a look on his face early on and though he plays fine, he doesn’t seem to smile or really lean into it until terrapin etc, but he definitely does then! Perhaps my favorite second set of the run? Always was fun to see/hear a live Dark Star, or in this case sort of...Victims a bit ragged, but I generally like Victim.
    It was a year after we saw the first shows there with Vincent, and though it wasn’t going to be the same again, it was going to be alright! You could see the progression continuing from the year before. The band was back on track and there was a collective feeling that things were going to be ok.
    Saw six shows that year and not a clunker in the bunch! Next year things started to feel different?
    Glad I finally got to these shows as I was not familiar.
    Now back to the road less traveled!

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    Nice OB

    Nice hockey organ reference.

    Still haven't gotten to Madison, perhaps tomorrow.. After that, I will reside myself to the passengers seat for a while and enjoy the arrangements from another's muse. That 66 looks bomb.. perhaps that next?

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    Cue the hockey organ...

    Cause this boy gotta DHB Hat Trick yesterday! Woo-who! Of course Mrs OB wasn’t quite as enthused lol.

    10/27/73 second set ✔️ (mentioned below)
    9/4/91 ✔️ (mentioned below)
    7/3/66 ✔️ Forgot what a fun show this is. It’s interesting how “formed’ they are already. The dead, but not quite the dead. So many different songs too, good palate cleanser.
    9/5/91 ✔️ Stayed up and watched this one on YouTube.
    Another decent show, Halfstep, nice China-Rider, Trucking-Smokestack, BP etc.
    nothing mind blowing just another solid outing. From what I remember I believe tomorrow, the 6th is the best, or perhaps on paper?
    Might read and decompress today, hit 9/6/91 on YT tonight, and mañana...?
    Still on the fence about my Dane (s) virginal status...I guess we’ll see what tomorrow brings?

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    I think the 91 was hot, mildly oversaturated.. especially the Picasso Moon. It rounded out ok by the end but still seemed a bit hot. Still, the instruments were all well represented, there was great clarity and separation and no audience mic, which to me is a breath of fresh air. I like the Pearson/Healy's. My system does not display levels so I am going by feel, but methinks the levels were high. I have to wonder if this occurred during the initial transfer from the DATs? You are correct about the first 73 show too.. I knew that going in but took the plunge nonetheless. I also bet a better recording exists out there, but this is what we have for now. If memory serves, Madison sounds better which is why I saved it for later. Unfortunately I will not get to this until tomorrow.

    Still, like OroB I enjoy the road less travelled.. Both Madison's in 73 are worth the trip. Some enjoyable shows that do not get the love they deserve.

    Hope you all are enjoying your Labor Day weekend.. big flood waters here, which are just now beginning to dissipate. Good fun, but a bit dangerous perhaps...

    Enjoy the last true summer weekend all.. play dead, loud and proud.

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    ...I love fall 73!, but all these shows were good!
    5/12/91✔️
    11/18/78✔️
    10/27/73✔️
    9/4/91✔️
    Sometimes the 91s sound a little? fuzzy, the vocals, or the miked sources, the direct fed instruments always sounded good. Not bad, just sometimes...anywho. Good shows, especially enjoyed the first set list from 5/12. In fact, I think that’s a highlight of 91, first sets are usually solid and not just the warm up set...
    The 78 was pretty typical, and that’s in a good way, really dug the whole jam/drumzzz segment, and yasss that was a smoking TMNS!
    10/27/73: damn what a nice surprise...THIS, is why I love this place: finding chestnuts that might not of been fond, soon, or otherwise! Unfortunately the sound wasn’t the best, but listenable. The mix actually is really good, and I think maybe at some point there was (is?) a good sounding master? My guess is combination of years, gens, and perhaps not unlike some cheap street blow, a tad too much electronically stomped on?
    But that gives hope that maybe there’s a good master still?
    Uncle Jimmy summed this one up good, and in fact I’ve really enjoyed everyone’s discussions!

    Oh, lol, did not officially complete the DHBHat Trick as I was dozing off during the first set of 10/27 and wanted to actually hear the second set so had to finish this morning. The ring was in the grasp, but I just let it slip away...
    Two tactical errors: had to redo much of the second set of 11/18 due to distraction and felt it would be a violation of the DHB code to thus count it, so used time I could of started on 10/27, thereby facilitating the completion of said show. Also, I missed my 5 o’clock caffeine dose, and I’ve learned doing it later is like pissing in the wind: it dosent kick in in time, and then, after you go to bed, you bolt awake and crackle all night! No bueno!
    Hey, this DHB stuff is serious business, and after almost no dead all week, had some catching up to do, like Pintos date in Animal House...
    Ok, what’s next? Maybe later I’ll hit Dane, but I’m tempted to honor my purity ring on this one?
    Mañana I’ll hit 9/5/91, but not sure what other directions I’ll roam...free range Dead!

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    Sounds like a good plan Jim. They are on tap for this weekend.

    Enjoy the weekend. Can't believe we are at labor day weekend already.

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    I like it.

    Finished 10/27/73. Nice little underrated show. Highlights include great China>Rider, the Playing sequence is unique and the Truckin' Nobody's Fault is typical, meaning typically good for the era. Boy, if I could go back in time.

    Not sure if I am getting to Madison tonight or not.. we will see.

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    If the four winds blow we could have potential for the increasingly rare DHB Hat Trick folks!

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    You evil temptress!
    Like I don’t have enough on my plate, lol.
    Definitely going to HAVE to slip those in too!
    Have not heard either of those, which surprises me about Dane? And Indy if nothing else, which I doubt will be the case, will be another notch in the overall, and especially the ole fall 73, preverbal bedpost! One of those tours that MUST be completed!
    Actually, not sure I’ve heard either Dane...prolly thought they would have been released by now and like the teenage girl I am, but without the purity ring, wanted to save myself.
    GREAT DANE: Still say that would make a GREAT box: 2/15/73, 10/25/73, 2/4/79, 12/3/81, and 6/24/83.
    Not sure I’ve heard the 79 or 83, but think I heard 83s decent. Good enough for filler considering the magnitude of the 73s, and as we heard here on POTDWD, 81s a real burner!

    So I guess I’m binging out this we lol. Hup, hup, nothing too it, but to do it!
    Digging this 91 so far. Currently descending into H-S-F...

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    How about a fall '73 diversion?

    I have my eye on relistens to the following two shows:

    10/27/73- State Fair Coliseum - Indianapolis, IN
    This one's a bit weird and flies under the radar. The soundboard seems to end towards the end of Wharf Rat. There's a new Charlie Miller that has an upgrade of the better part of the second set and what exists of the first set is decent with some flaws. I am going to splice together the best show I can and give it a try.

    Then.. to reward the patience of cobbling together a decent show from two remasters.. I plan on hitting the night before which is a true classic.

    10/25/73- Dane County Coliseum - Madison, WI

    So more a less a weekend of '73.

    So pick or choose what we like between what is listed above? I am sort of psyched for a unique PITB sandwich. Looks out there.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

....for one one the best shows I've heard them play. 9.7 goonie birds out of 10 and Don't Ease Me In hasn't even ended yet. Pure gold. Off today and the wife went to work. This one begs to be turned to eleven.
"Relax people. We have you all night long."

excellent anniversary pick! acoustic 1970 is such a special sound. so intimate, at times almost like you're seated cross legged in front of them in a small room with your close friends. once again, it's been awhile since I've listened to this set, more recently those in that awesome Road Trips 5/15/70 release. we really need another of these acoustic / electric shows from 1970 released. too bad that most of the fall run appears to not have been taped.

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....Jerry making that pedal steel sing. Outstanding!
If Henry doesn't get your foot tapping, better check yourself for a pulse.

....gotta take a break. Shower up. Because I know that the upcoming St. Stephen->The Other One->Cosmic Charlie is going to blow my mind and will have me picking my face up off the floor. Again.

....hitting that record button at the start of St. Stephen. Wonder why? "Guys! Wait a minute! I was hanging with the crowd! You usually take a longer break! Dammit! (Pushes the button). Ahhhh. All is good."
I got all clean, just to get dirty again. Let's gooooo!
The 6.9.76 RT release also has a cut start to St. Stephen. Hmmmm.....

DP 5 12/26/79✔️ Ahh, finally got back to this one. Been meaning to play this one. It was played all the time back in the day since there weren’t many official releases yet, or at least I didn’t have many. When DaP 31 came out I dove into as much fall 79 as I had, but somehow didn’t get to this one. So now, finally we get back to this gem. Typical for 79 but great first set, with an UJB to open the second sliding nicely into a hot Estimated. But the highlight to me is the 2 jams. The first is more traditional with them skirting around the edges of a Caution jam, with wiffs of DS and Eyes, but then Phil clearly try’s to start He’s Gone, but Jerry’s not ready until a few minutes later Phil starts again and this time they go with it, SWEET! Then after a nice He’s Gone, TOO, and drums, they slide into almost space like segment that gets delightfully weird. One of my favorite things from this tour is all the far out jams and weirdness that regularly popped up in the second sets. The rest is standard fare except a nice but perhaps a tad allegro Brokedown. Of course the big surprise is the Shakedown UJB reprise for the encore. It’s not surprising ole Dick put his name on this one, what a great 79 show!
4/29/72: ✔️so then I did this one to somewhat follow the European trail. I even had Sierra Nevada 2019 Ocktoberfest, Sierra Nevada Skiesta “Bavarian Style” and my last bottle of EKU 28. All leftovers I’ve been saving for too long for a tasting that’s not going to happen anytime soon. So not proper authentic German beer, but in the spirit of the event celebrating the fine show and DS from the sister city of my hometown, Hamburg.
10/26/89: after this one came up the other day I figured I’d give it a spin. Since it was getting late and the buzz was making me sleepy, I FF here and there and by the end of DS was falling asleep in the big boy chair, so decided, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings....was totally enjoying the show, but not sure I’d rank it above 10/9 or 10/16? I’ll have to slip back to this one after 5/2/70....

....is strong with this Spanish lady with a rose. Total cacophony, into a lulling bliss, then back into masterful ladder climbing. Its an auditory roller coaster. Pretty much perfection. Makes me feel high, without being high.
The 12:20 mark....for fucks sake. Rainbow colors blended.

my favorite year is '72, like the deep space mind melt of the Berkley show. but a fire-breathing cryptical - other one - cryptical is another beast altogether, and i love them too! phil thunder intro right now! holy shit!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 12:56

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....its a full fledged Pigpen grease party. Incredible.
Life pro tip. If you have a grease fire, water or fire extinguishers don't suppress it. Gotta cut off the oxygen.
The 5:35 mark of Good Lovin'. Kicking into the extra gear. Reminds me of wild horses. Can only tame them so far until they race off.

....also marked.
Ducked out of the CD into the archive for the Cold Rain & Snow that was cut from the release. Earning my badge.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 13:35

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“The goal is to find shows that can stand up under repeated listenings and still give you the goods.” - Dick Latvala

Harpur College – anyone with any common sense knows Harpur College is a show that should have come out centuries ago. It was ten years of trying to get that one up the flagpole. Healy would say, ‘That Latvala, he can’t tell the difference between stereo and mono!’ And that’s why he would reject Harpur College, cause the electric sets are in mono. So fucking what? Does anyone say that ain’t a great example of a show? I’ll tell you, it wasn’t like I snapped my fingers to have it occur, it was like embarrassing myself forever to get it out.”

Thanks Dick,
I hope you know how right you were.. LATVALA!

Anybody want Electric Wine? = Dick's Picks Volume 8

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 13:58

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Here’s the first paragraph of the DaP34 announcement:

"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

Sounds like you’re all having a good time with Harpur.

I have some more yard work to do, but then it’s Harpur, beer, grilling. Looks like I got a good evening coming.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:02

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My 2nd Dead concert was 5/15/70 early show. That was also first time seeing NRPS. Then Workngmans Dead released late May. May 3rd was free Jefferson Airplane concert at Central Park bandshell. Super intense , only one of two times seeing JA. Kent State happened in early May .Saw CSNY at the the Fillmore East at the end of May 1970. Neil Young had already written Ohio. What a month , fifty years ago!
Now to the electric sets.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:06

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Great Other One descriptions Vguy & thanks for those Latvala & Lawson-Garcia quotes Good Ole.
I listened to Good Lovin' and Man's World on my Saturday outdoor stroll to the Grocer. Even the Man's World shines on this show. Every note was golden that night. It was great to escape my quarantine and be outside in the sun with bugs and dogs and the Grateful Dead. This show has always felt very Springlike anyways.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:10

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I first got this show-5/2/70-about 1987 on a very rough sounding tape. I only had a primitive ghetto blaster to play it on, but I loved it and played it to death.
So on to Dicks Picks, which sadly missed the New Riders set-which was on the tape I had, and seemed to be an essential part of the whole show. Its my favourite in the series. Then I got the vinyl last year, which has no New Riders but includes a somewhat ropey Cold Rain and Snow. But it is an incredible show in any format. The acoustic set is beautifully recorded-they could be here in my living room.

I always think of the electric set as being the last hurrah for primal Dead. The versions of Other One, Dancing in the Street, Good Lovin' and Viola Lee Blues are incendiary. It seems to me as though they take a bit of a breather with the shorter songs in the set, before diving off the high board again with these all powerful jams. I can't think of another Dead show that is like this, either. Unique and brilliant.

.....Billy The Kid said earlier "if there was one show I could time machine back to, it would be this one." I paraphrased, but you get the gist. Top 10.
Good luck to tomorrow's pick.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:44

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Listened to the whole night together for the first time. Even though I've listened to DP8 tons of times, I really absorbed it + NRPS this time around. I may have to wander up into the mountains for a week or so to process what I just heard.

I know we're a biased lot here on this site, but, really, who else is in the conversation for Musician of the 20th Century besides Garcia? Mastery of varied instruments and genres, improvisational skills, longevity, number of people played in front of....you get the picture. Yet try to find him listed on those inane "best of" polls that pop up from time to time. Sheesh.

Maybe our deadhead brains are just wired differently than the rest of humanity. If that's indeed the case...thank you, God!!

....either you get IT or you don't. Screw the "lists". I'm hard wired. Jerome John Garcia is/was the most pleasing guitar player, at least to my ears.
Miss you.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 15:06

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Right on bolo. No other musician comes close to Garcia in my world. We are lucky....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 17:06

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What a great pick, Strider. You people hear these guitars?

Haven't listened to this one a while, so great, the acoustic set! I know you Rider is so smooth and relaxed.

I have no clue when my Dave's 34 is coming. Tracking still just says lable created, not yet shipped. I guess it is my turn to experience the shipping blues.

Be well folks!

I, too, listened to the whole thing in one sitting. I managed to carve out just enough time and mother nature took care of the rest.. a relatively easy close by river was running just right, temps in the mid sixties (hey, that rolls right off your tongue).. I combined the listen with an outdoor adventure, social distance style.

Dropped off my bike at the bottom and proceeded to the top with my boat. A 12 mile wilderness canyon, a ten mile bike ride to the truck allowed me to be completely alone for the entire day with it. Most excellent. There and back again.. four and a half hours of mind blown fun, nobody could call me, text me, email me, tap me on the shoulder, ask me a question.. no one could disrupt a single note. Heaven. Plus I completely burned off the cabin fever that's been building up these last couple months. Man, if I ever get the chance to do what I did today again, it will be a life well lived. Holy shit what a piece of music. A psychedelic masterpiece, the entire thing. Oh, and to drive the point home, I did reach deep into my bag of tricks to make sure my mind was properly malleable for the journey.

No point for me to get into a song by song study, everyone else did a great job covering the details.

Great choice, great day. It really was not that different than what I described this morning.. not that different at all.

Edit: Out of shape and sore I am.. What a drag it is getting old...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 06:41

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I love Paris in the springtime

Good times were had at Harpur College for sure!

Did anybody else get something cool in the mail yesterday?

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 06:56

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5/2/70 might have left a smoking crater of our minds...

5/3/72, Paris - that should set it right.

GOGD - Still no mail here in B'more :(

Happy Sunday, friends.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:05

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The music comes on and keeps coming!

It's in the music

It's in the water

More Dead

May 5, 1970 - Colonial News SUNY Binghampton by Richard Walinsky

OTIS: It's coming!
I'ma holding off and waiting for you all, for now... :)

Sunday listening = Olympia Theatre 5/3/72.. don't mind if I do!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:29

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Looks like everyone had a great show yesterday. I am on Dire Wolf right now sounds nice!

5/372 sounds like another fine pick. Thanks!

ps. I am wondering if anyone has any interest in doing a Sunday Night At The Movies with VFTV 4 7/26/87 Anaheim.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:54

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I'm in a bit of a mind fog myself.. not from alcohol. ..and my body hurts.

Right there with you Otis/4Winds. I will get up some energy to make a good day of it soon. I am thinking 5/3/72 sans the stem I chewed on yesterday.

Yesterday was a glorious day in Western MD. I owe it all you guys pumping up the good vibes.. and Bolo for keeping it all unreal.

Thanks all.

P.S. View IV is a monster.. The Jack Straw opener is epic and it just grows from there.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 08:13

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Extra props for being one with nature yesterday JIMINMD!

This here 5/3/72 Tennessee Jed is the first one I ever heard...

No can do VFTV 4 tonight.. But that sounds fun!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 09:48

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Also The Playin'> D/S> Uncle Johns is mighty fine too. Miracle> Bertha> Sugar Mag, But the 7/26 has some unique Jerry just saying.

If this is not doable can I have tomorrows pick? Thanks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 10:33

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....but the arrival date got bumped to Monday instead of Wednesday, so there's that!
5.3.72 on deck. A 3h 40min monster! Going to have break this one up.

VGUY72 - 40 plus minutes of that close to 4 hours is a big bad Other One Monster that weaves in and out of Set 2.. and it's sounding pretty hot too.

And Monday is better than Wednesday fo sure!

FOURWINDSBLOW - The 5/2/70 Monster Other One suite is some of the greatest Dead ever IMO (and many others from the sounds of things).. and it never gets old, every time it's sick!

What's everyone thinking in regards to listening to Dave's Picks Vol 34?
They seem to be trickling in at diff times all over the country as we speak.

Just curious.. that Monster keeps looking at me...

Yes, for sure!

Love the Taper's Compendiums, out-of-date but still great!

Along with the liner notes article reprint it really paints a cool scene.

Damn, I'd love to hear the beginning of that St. Stephen, just hearing the crowd response to those opening notes..

alas, it's all a dream we dreamed, One afternoon long ago

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 13:07

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This is a show i really like that I had not listened to in a while.

It's a really great show, the best!

11/8/1969 Dick's Picks, Volume Sixteen

Heard it was one of Dick's all time Favorites, posthumously released as a tribute to him.

I'm on a Latvala trip, Dick sure knew how to Pick!

Latvala!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 15:50

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Dick was the best!

I thought I'd make up for the '87 suggestion.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:03

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FWB: Dude ‘87 pick is still in the mix!

Love ‘87 & haven’t heard that in awhile..

But.. it’s no 11/8/69
JIMINMD that was all FWB’s pick, I just picked up on it ;)

But yeah that’ll put you right back on the bus!!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:12

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....is indeed a good show. Comes highly recommended by yours truly! 👍🌹💀
Then again, I was at 7.26.87. First world problems!
Back to Paris. Love the fade out from Sugar Mags into NFA. Good stuff right there.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:39

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Jerry was the father I never had and I like to see him when I saw him. Sometimes.

Never could compete with 11/8/69 I know.

ps, Just so ya know I'm a sixties head (Freak!).

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 07:45

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Dick Latvala's response to Jim Wise after receiving the "fixed" version of 11/8/69 master.

Initially planned to be released in honor of it's 30th Anniversary.

The amount of work put in to this recording in order for us to hear it at it's best possible sound quality, is impressive to say the least.

Another fine moment in Grateful Dead history, both the show and the story of how we are now able to listen to it.

Big Thanks to Jim Wise & Dick Latvala!!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 11:20

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I’m up for that

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 13:27

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RE: STRIDER 88

Would love to hear your 2nd Dead concert 5/15/70 early show story some time..

That had to be amazing.

Jesse Jarnow speculated in a blog post that this show was "possibly" the night that Jerry was tripping so hard that he began to think that assassins / mobsters were after him, and that the only way he'd survive is if he played for his life.

Of course there's no way to know for sure, but..

It sure sounds like he's playing for his life.