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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Ha!

    I hear you man, it is brutal.

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    Wow, what a grateful day

    Yesterday was: DV, yer gonna love that 10/14/80. There is a version of the acoustic set and you should check it out!
    Heaven Help AND Bird Song!
    Then switch to the SBD Miller as it sounds good!
    Nice long well played show! So far most of these off of Dave’s list have been promising.

    12/7/71: more of the same 71 madness. And it’s Got a sweeettt Smokestack, the last until 3/25/72 which is the last Pig Era version. Smokestack is perhaps my favorite song from the whole 70-72 transitional period, and this version is another beauty.

    2 awesome shows definitely made for a Grateful day, even if the VIKS pulled a Britney….”Ooops I did it again” lol.
    Doood, as much as it’s hard being a Buffalo fan, I don’t know if I could handle the Viks ; )

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    What is going on?

    Could not post since last Thursday. Very strange. Kept saying access to server denied.

    12/8/73, yes Oroborous. Nice call.

    10/14/80, will cue it up later today. The acoustic set is missing but sets 2 and 3 are there and they are really good.

    Oh and Vikings lost to the Lions!

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    Change up

    Going 10/14/80, then hopefully 12/7/71

  • Oroborous
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    Where we’re we?

    Oh yeah, DVs been banished from posting for being too nice lol

    Found the notes I had with some of BC and other suggestions

    and moving right along;

    Hit 12/6/71 DaP 22 Friday night. Short but SWEEEEETTTT! Hot show!
    Loving these strong first sets, especially been digging the first set Black Petes!
    It’s a shame it got so formulaic later on. I like the structure of the later years, but the song slots got too predictable etc.

    Trying for 12/7/71 today. Need to get 10/14/80 in, but might save that one for work Monday?

    12/8/73: yowsa, how had I not hit this one! No secret I’m partial to fall 73 and especially those last 10 pure quintet shows. 11/23 was good, but I think I liked this one better? I’ve added the few remaining shows from this tour I haven’t hit yet to our list! 10/21, 11/1, 11/25, 12/12, and 12/18, but I’m holding out on 12/18 until they release it!

    Ok, have many suggestions from various sources so hopefully we can massage our ears and check some boxes this week!
    ONWARD!

    Hopefully DV gets turned back on soon.

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    "can't you see how beautiful this all is!!??"

    been a long long time but i seem to remember that wide-eyed bit of stage "talk" from a fan at 12/8/73. soon, soon.

    mid-morning I had the need for an Eyes ca. '73 / '74, First one that fell in my hands was Selland 7/19/74 DaP Disc 3, floating free out of its Digi in a slim case. My freaking heck did that disc 3 sound good!!

    2/18/71 - beautiful show, best of the run. Dark Hollow early on and all the others. (edit: oh wait - Dark Hollow is from 2/19, now I'm all confused. "I Like it all!!". 2/19 is really good.) had 2/21 spinning in the ride just past week.

    12/5/71 - again been a good long while. "Should" have been released a long long time ago. Same excellent level, end of same year, as Porchester run, but we're in solid new territory here in only a 10 month span (not like that's a rare occurrence with the GD.)

    After Hawaii 1/70 rewound to Thelma 12/69 (all of it but really, I mean what can you say, Alligator > Caution > Feedback>Bid You Goodnight) And today thought it was time for 2/2/70 DaP 6. Which IMHO is one of the great releases from the series. I'm paused in that right now just before the crazy good Dark Star > St. Stephen > Mason's sequence I first heard on cassette many years ago. 2/2 was one of many Holy Grail shows from before the days that the doors of the Vault had even (officially) opened. Also on that list 2/15/73. Like a few others here!

    as for a few things on another list - maybe 8/24/80 Grand Rapids (audience only but a sweet one is out there) or a few nights earlier 8/19/80 Uptown, an excellent show that is still looking for a better source than what seems to circulate. Had a nice balcony audience back in the day. should have been there, saw Alpine right after. and 3 nights before Uptown the Mississippi River Festival (again audience only) which had a "you are there" write up in one or more of the Deadbase volumes, all lit up by an epic midwestern downpour cutting loose at the beginning of China Cat (IIRC). One of those crazy storm shows, middle of midwest "nowhere" sorta deal that some of us, yes from the midwest, wished we could have experienced in all its glory.

    on another musical note - recently picked up from Owsley Foundation:

    That Which Colors The Mind
    Ali Akbar Kahn
    Indranil Bhattacharya
    Zakir Hussain

    Absolutely beautiful release. Don't hesitate.

    And while I'm typing this back to Dead and Co at Wrigley 9/18. Yep one of those shows.

    Hoping for cold rain and snow in the dry Southwest. Stay safe and have fun. Onward!!

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    Going with 12/8/73 then…

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    never straight!

    So, I know we’re fumbling around in 71 goodness, but do we want to throw something else in the mix for today and this WE?
    Imma gonna hit Daves 22? 12/6&7/71 this WE, but how bout 12/8/73 if you want to stay in that neighborhood or perhaps 10/14/80 off of Dave’s “list”? since DVs been digging fall 80?
    Shit this would have been a good time for one of BCs picks but the list is at home?

    Yeah, seems like I remember lol, sure I do lol, that they used to work the holiday shopping season more BITD?
    Seems like a quick one off or something to boost holiday numbers would make sense, AND feed our insatiable jones lol!

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    Nice, I am sure you are digging the freedom. You have been a stalwart with Doc's 71 tour. Those Port Chester shows are all great. I still have 2/18 at the top of my list, just for that Dark Star, WR, Dark Star. It is unreal.

    I still have 12/5/71 in the que for this week. I got side tracked with 10/9/80. Which has a recent Miller transfer from this year.

    Would love to see Rhino put out some type of release in December to tie us over until February.

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    Ha, finally!

    Got an empty job site with tunes!
    So hitting 11/23/73 from the start.
    Sorry DV, no Port Chester at this time as I’m
    A) still trying to hit all the 71 shows, and
    B) getting a little burnt on 71 lol, so not ready to rehash YET!
    But I did really dig those. Funny thing, I was not enthused about FTV III, until I got past my hang ups and dove into this 71 challenge. Now, it’s one of my year favs and definitely my fav of the run. Just that Smokestack alone does it for me!
    Think I liked 2/21 next, then the 18th? Can’t remember my other preferences as I don’t have my Deadbase?
    Great run of shows, but I can understand why they didn’t do a box since their not quite fully formed or as tight as they’d soon be. Meant, I think strong arguments could be made for other things being more a priority and with only one box a year it is valuable real estate, so might not have got as much love as needed?
    I think he chose right doling them out separately?
    I’m sure he’ll dole more out eventually.
    Personally I’m good with 71 for now only because we’ve had several solid 71s the last few years.
    But there most definitely more 71shows I’d like to see, eventually…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

....for one one the best shows I've heard them play. 9.7 goonie birds out of 10 and Don't Ease Me In hasn't even ended yet. Pure gold. Off today and the wife went to work. This one begs to be turned to eleven.
"Relax people. We have you all night long."

excellent anniversary pick! acoustic 1970 is such a special sound. so intimate, at times almost like you're seated cross legged in front of them in a small room with your close friends. once again, it's been awhile since I've listened to this set, more recently those in that awesome Road Trips 5/15/70 release. we really need another of these acoustic / electric shows from 1970 released. too bad that most of the fall run appears to not have been taped.

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....Jerry making that pedal steel sing. Outstanding!
If Henry doesn't get your foot tapping, better check yourself for a pulse.

....gotta take a break. Shower up. Because I know that the upcoming St. Stephen->The Other One->Cosmic Charlie is going to blow my mind and will have me picking my face up off the floor. Again.

....hitting that record button at the start of St. Stephen. Wonder why? "Guys! Wait a minute! I was hanging with the crowd! You usually take a longer break! Dammit! (Pushes the button). Ahhhh. All is good."
I got all clean, just to get dirty again. Let's gooooo!
The 6.9.76 RT release also has a cut start to St. Stephen. Hmmmm.....

DP 5 12/26/79✔️ Ahh, finally got back to this one. Been meaning to play this one. It was played all the time back in the day since there weren’t many official releases yet, or at least I didn’t have many. When DaP 31 came out I dove into as much fall 79 as I had, but somehow didn’t get to this one. So now, finally we get back to this gem. Typical for 79 but great first set, with an UJB to open the second sliding nicely into a hot Estimated. But the highlight to me is the 2 jams. The first is more traditional with them skirting around the edges of a Caution jam, with wiffs of DS and Eyes, but then Phil clearly try’s to start He’s Gone, but Jerry’s not ready until a few minutes later Phil starts again and this time they go with it, SWEET! Then after a nice He’s Gone, TOO, and drums, they slide into almost space like segment that gets delightfully weird. One of my favorite things from this tour is all the far out jams and weirdness that regularly popped up in the second sets. The rest is standard fare except a nice but perhaps a tad allegro Brokedown. Of course the big surprise is the Shakedown UJB reprise for the encore. It’s not surprising ole Dick put his name on this one, what a great 79 show!
4/29/72: ✔️so then I did this one to somewhat follow the European trail. I even had Sierra Nevada 2019 Ocktoberfest, Sierra Nevada Skiesta “Bavarian Style” and my last bottle of EKU 28. All leftovers I’ve been saving for too long for a tasting that’s not going to happen anytime soon. So not proper authentic German beer, but in the spirit of the event celebrating the fine show and DS from the sister city of my hometown, Hamburg.
10/26/89: after this one came up the other day I figured I’d give it a spin. Since it was getting late and the buzz was making me sleepy, I FF here and there and by the end of DS was falling asleep in the big boy chair, so decided, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings....was totally enjoying the show, but not sure I’d rank it above 10/9 or 10/16? I’ll have to slip back to this one after 5/2/70....

....is strong with this Spanish lady with a rose. Total cacophony, into a lulling bliss, then back into masterful ladder climbing. Its an auditory roller coaster. Pretty much perfection. Makes me feel high, without being high.
The 12:20 mark....for fucks sake. Rainbow colors blended.

my favorite year is '72, like the deep space mind melt of the Berkley show. but a fire-breathing cryptical - other one - cryptical is another beast altogether, and i love them too! phil thunder intro right now! holy shit!

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....its a full fledged Pigpen grease party. Incredible.
Life pro tip. If you have a grease fire, water or fire extinguishers don't suppress it. Gotta cut off the oxygen.
The 5:35 mark of Good Lovin'. Kicking into the extra gear. Reminds me of wild horses. Can only tame them so far until they race off.

....also marked.
Ducked out of the CD into the archive for the Cold Rain & Snow that was cut from the release. Earning my badge.

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“The goal is to find shows that can stand up under repeated listenings and still give you the goods.” - Dick Latvala

Harpur College – anyone with any common sense knows Harpur College is a show that should have come out centuries ago. It was ten years of trying to get that one up the flagpole. Healy would say, ‘That Latvala, he can’t tell the difference between stereo and mono!’ And that’s why he would reject Harpur College, cause the electric sets are in mono. So fucking what? Does anyone say that ain’t a great example of a show? I’ll tell you, it wasn’t like I snapped my fingers to have it occur, it was like embarrassing myself forever to get it out.”

Thanks Dick,
I hope you know how right you were.. LATVALA!

Anybody want Electric Wine? = Dick's Picks Volume 8

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Here’s the first paragraph of the DaP34 announcement:

"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

Sounds like you’re all having a good time with Harpur.

I have some more yard work to do, but then it’s Harpur, beer, grilling. Looks like I got a good evening coming.

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My 2nd Dead concert was 5/15/70 early show. That was also first time seeing NRPS. Then Workngmans Dead released late May. May 3rd was free Jefferson Airplane concert at Central Park bandshell. Super intense , only one of two times seeing JA. Kent State happened in early May .Saw CSNY at the the Fillmore East at the end of May 1970. Neil Young had already written Ohio. What a month , fifty years ago!
Now to the electric sets.

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Great Other One descriptions Vguy & thanks for those Latvala & Lawson-Garcia quotes Good Ole.
I listened to Good Lovin' and Man's World on my Saturday outdoor stroll to the Grocer. Even the Man's World shines on this show. Every note was golden that night. It was great to escape my quarantine and be outside in the sun with bugs and dogs and the Grateful Dead. This show has always felt very Springlike anyways.

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I first got this show-5/2/70-about 1987 on a very rough sounding tape. I only had a primitive ghetto blaster to play it on, but I loved it and played it to death.
So on to Dicks Picks, which sadly missed the New Riders set-which was on the tape I had, and seemed to be an essential part of the whole show. Its my favourite in the series. Then I got the vinyl last year, which has no New Riders but includes a somewhat ropey Cold Rain and Snow. But it is an incredible show in any format. The acoustic set is beautifully recorded-they could be here in my living room.

I always think of the electric set as being the last hurrah for primal Dead. The versions of Other One, Dancing in the Street, Good Lovin' and Viola Lee Blues are incendiary. It seems to me as though they take a bit of a breather with the shorter songs in the set, before diving off the high board again with these all powerful jams. I can't think of another Dead show that is like this, either. Unique and brilliant.

.....Billy The Kid said earlier "if there was one show I could time machine back to, it would be this one." I paraphrased, but you get the gist. Top 10.
Good luck to tomorrow's pick.

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Listened to the whole night together for the first time. Even though I've listened to DP8 tons of times, I really absorbed it + NRPS this time around. I may have to wander up into the mountains for a week or so to process what I just heard.

I know we're a biased lot here on this site, but, really, who else is in the conversation for Musician of the 20th Century besides Garcia? Mastery of varied instruments and genres, improvisational skills, longevity, number of people played in front of....you get the picture. Yet try to find him listed on those inane "best of" polls that pop up from time to time. Sheesh.

Maybe our deadhead brains are just wired differently than the rest of humanity. If that's indeed the case...thank you, God!!

....either you get IT or you don't. Screw the "lists". I'm hard wired. Jerome John Garcia is/was the most pleasing guitar player, at least to my ears.
Miss you.

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Right on bolo. No other musician comes close to Garcia in my world. We are lucky....

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What a great pick, Strider. You people hear these guitars?

Haven't listened to this one a while, so great, the acoustic set! I know you Rider is so smooth and relaxed.

I have no clue when my Dave's 34 is coming. Tracking still just says lable created, not yet shipped. I guess it is my turn to experience the shipping blues.

Be well folks!

I, too, listened to the whole thing in one sitting. I managed to carve out just enough time and mother nature took care of the rest.. a relatively easy close by river was running just right, temps in the mid sixties (hey, that rolls right off your tongue).. I combined the listen with an outdoor adventure, social distance style.

Dropped off my bike at the bottom and proceeded to the top with my boat. A 12 mile wilderness canyon, a ten mile bike ride to the truck allowed me to be completely alone for the entire day with it. Most excellent. There and back again.. four and a half hours of mind blown fun, nobody could call me, text me, email me, tap me on the shoulder, ask me a question.. no one could disrupt a single note. Heaven. Plus I completely burned off the cabin fever that's been building up these last couple months. Man, if I ever get the chance to do what I did today again, it will be a life well lived. Holy shit what a piece of music. A psychedelic masterpiece, the entire thing. Oh, and to drive the point home, I did reach deep into my bag of tricks to make sure my mind was properly malleable for the journey.

No point for me to get into a song by song study, everyone else did a great job covering the details.

Great choice, great day. It really was not that different than what I described this morning.. not that different at all.

Edit: Out of shape and sore I am.. What a drag it is getting old...

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I love Paris in the springtime

Good times were had at Harpur College for sure!

Did anybody else get something cool in the mail yesterday?

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5/2/70 might have left a smoking crater of our minds...

5/3/72, Paris - that should set it right.

GOGD - Still no mail here in B'more :(

Happy Sunday, friends.

Peace

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The music comes on and keeps coming!

It's in the music

It's in the water

More Dead

May 5, 1970 - Colonial News SUNY Binghampton by Richard Walinsky

OTIS: It's coming!
I'ma holding off and waiting for you all, for now... :)

Sunday listening = Olympia Theatre 5/3/72.. don't mind if I do!

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Looks like everyone had a great show yesterday. I am on Dire Wolf right now sounds nice!

5/372 sounds like another fine pick. Thanks!

ps. I am wondering if anyone has any interest in doing a Sunday Night At The Movies with VFTV 4 7/26/87 Anaheim.

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I'm in a bit of a mind fog myself.. not from alcohol. ..and my body hurts.

Right there with you Otis/4Winds. I will get up some energy to make a good day of it soon. I am thinking 5/3/72 sans the stem I chewed on yesterday.

Yesterday was a glorious day in Western MD. I owe it all you guys pumping up the good vibes.. and Bolo for keeping it all unreal.

Thanks all.

P.S. View IV is a monster.. The Jack Straw opener is epic and it just grows from there.

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Extra props for being one with nature yesterday JIMINMD!

This here 5/3/72 Tennessee Jed is the first one I ever heard...

No can do VFTV 4 tonight.. But that sounds fun!

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Also The Playin'> D/S> Uncle Johns is mighty fine too. Miracle> Bertha> Sugar Mag, But the 7/26 has some unique Jerry just saying.

If this is not doable can I have tomorrows pick? Thanks!

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....but the arrival date got bumped to Monday instead of Wednesday, so there's that!
5.3.72 on deck. A 3h 40min monster! Going to have break this one up.

VGUY72 - 40 plus minutes of that close to 4 hours is a big bad Other One Monster that weaves in and out of Set 2.. and it's sounding pretty hot too.

And Monday is better than Wednesday fo sure!

FOURWINDSBLOW - The 5/2/70 Monster Other One suite is some of the greatest Dead ever IMO (and many others from the sounds of things).. and it never gets old, every time it's sick!

What's everyone thinking in regards to listening to Dave's Picks Vol 34?
They seem to be trickling in at diff times all over the country as we speak.

Just curious.. that Monster keeps looking at me...

Yes, for sure!

Love the Taper's Compendiums, out-of-date but still great!

Along with the liner notes article reprint it really paints a cool scene.

Damn, I'd love to hear the beginning of that St. Stephen, just hearing the crowd response to those opening notes..

alas, it's all a dream we dreamed, One afternoon long ago

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This is a show i really like that I had not listened to in a while.

It's a really great show, the best!

11/8/1969 Dick's Picks, Volume Sixteen

Heard it was one of Dick's all time Favorites, posthumously released as a tribute to him.

I'm on a Latvala trip, Dick sure knew how to Pick!

Latvala!

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Dick was the best!

I thought I'd make up for the '87 suggestion.

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FWB: Dude ‘87 pick is still in the mix!

Love ‘87 & haven’t heard that in awhile..

But.. it’s no 11/8/69
JIMINMD that was all FWB’s pick, I just picked up on it ;)

But yeah that’ll put you right back on the bus!!

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....is indeed a good show. Comes highly recommended by yours truly! 👍🌹💀
Then again, I was at 7.26.87. First world problems!
Back to Paris. Love the fade out from Sugar Mags into NFA. Good stuff right there.

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Jerry was the father I never had and I like to see him when I saw him. Sometimes.

Never could compete with 11/8/69 I know.

ps, Just so ya know I'm a sixties head (Freak!).

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Dick Latvala's response to Jim Wise after receiving the "fixed" version of 11/8/69 master.

Initially planned to be released in honor of it's 30th Anniversary.

The amount of work put in to this recording in order for us to hear it at it's best possible sound quality, is impressive to say the least.

Another fine moment in Grateful Dead history, both the show and the story of how we are now able to listen to it.

Big Thanks to Jim Wise & Dick Latvala!!

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I’m up for that

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RE: STRIDER 88

Would love to hear your 2nd Dead concert 5/15/70 early show story some time..

That had to be amazing.

Jesse Jarnow speculated in a blog post that this show was "possibly" the night that Jerry was tripping so hard that he began to think that assassins / mobsters were after him, and that the only way he'd survive is if he played for his life.

Of course there's no way to know for sure, but..

It sure sounds like he's playing for his life.