Dave’s Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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May 20, 2020 - 9:50pm

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JimInMD

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Are Dicks Picks Failing?

I think not..

I think this has the potential to become a big deal simply because they built their house of cards on top of a limited edition, collectible business model. It seems CDs might be disintegrating all by themselves just sitting on a shelf while being properly stored. This issue seems to correlate to a specific year, which means a specific manufacturer and a specific stock of blanks.

If all this turns out to be true, which is not known, it will have an impact on the number of people buying CD's going forward vs. not which impacts pretty much everything. I think we have reached a good equilibrium now, a stable market, mostly up-front payments which allows for a reliable production run or most importantly the ability to do a good job remastering and producing. (Think proper Jeffrey Norman time.)

This could be nothing or it could be a big deal, it's too early to be sure. If true, I still think it's correctible and worth the investment to fix. No need to replace packaging, just the discs.

This might cast a shadow over their ability to meet the 22k number. Just my two cents.
May 20, 2020 - 9:29pm

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billy the kid

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Dave s discs

My Dave s discs all look fine and brand new, they were only played one or two times at most. Dave s 1 & 3 are full of static and and unlistenable, 2 & 4 don't play at all. So far my other Dave s picks seem fine, of the few I've played and they were all stored in the same box. So hopefully, this is something that only affects the first 4 . No big deal.
May 20, 2020 - 9:17pm

#1203

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: Belt Sander

Aluminum will oxidize over time if exposed to air, this is especially true on a thin layer. I never checked this out for myself.. but if the edge is not sealed by the plastic the CD is made from, oxygen and humidity will mix and interact with the metal layer and oxidize it, which given enough time would cause to it to lose it's shape integrity and fail.

If they are not sealing the edges in some way, that can't be good. I'm no chemist, but a rough edge might mean the metal could become exposed to air and given enough time the foil layer could degrade. But I doubt of that's the problem, that couldn't be the case. (In my best Sgt. Shultz Voice) Hogan.. I See Nothing..
May 20, 2020 - 9:05pm

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carlo13

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Winterland

What about the winterland box or other boxes? Is this only a Dap thing? This was probably already talked about but was wondering. I checked bears choice because I've had it for a long time and the disk is much better quality and thicker. The edge is smooth unlike the new disks which need a bit of sanding down. Mabey rhino should invest in a belt sander. Just saying. Peace.
May 20, 2020 - 7:42pm

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JimInMD

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Disc Rot

It would be awfully nice, not that I expect it..

If they somehow accommodated those of us that might have problems with these out of print items. Even if we paid shipping and handling and somehow confirmed an original purchase (or not).

But the amount of goodwill would more than make up for the costs. Anyway.. Charlie got me to do some research too. It's not as uncommon as I thought. I have no idea how much money these guys save by going cheap on CDs// but it ain't worth it. Spend the extra $22k and charge us an extra dollar. ..and I am quite sure the actual savings are less than $22k per Dave's Pick. That's about 25 cents per blank. Reasonable??
May 20, 2020 - 5:27pm

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icecrmcnkd

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DaP2 discs

All 3 of mine look like new.
CD1 played flawlessly and so far CD2 has too, Eyes is currently playing.

6-17-76 CD3, DaP28
Rhino/GD acknowledged that some of the original discs and the first round of replacements had a defect on the master used for CD production that was detected by some, but not all CD players. My Onkyo DX-C390 6-disc carousel player detected it on both copies, but the 2nd replacement played fine. One of my burners did not detect it on the original when I made my HD backup copy.
May 20, 2020 - 10:08am

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Charlie3

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Disc Rot and CD Player Variations

Yeah, when this came up I looked around a bit and you can find a variety of articles describing the various ways that CDs can fail or "rot" over time.

WokeUpDead, your experience with DaP 28 sounds pretty similar to mine - I was using a decade old Sony 5 CD player that played all of my other discs flawlessly but I could not get DaP 28 or any of the replacement discs to play without skips. Later on I got another CD player, an Onkyo 6CD player, and DaP 28 played without any problems on that. Still wondering what that's all about.
May 20, 2020 - 9:34am

#1208

JimInMD

Joined:
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Willy T and the Disc Rot

uh oh.. Perhaps we are all in trouble..
May 20, 2020 - 9:15am

#1209

Oroborous

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Willy T Jones & the Rot

Sounds like a great band or album name!
May 20, 2020 - 8:14am

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WokeUpDead

Joined:
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No issues with 2012 DaP disks

As a relatively new rider on the GD bus, I have managed to acquire all of the first year DaP sets on EBay within the past year, all pre-owned and showing varying degrees of wear. I have not noticed any sign of audio degradation or CD player malfunction with any of these. DaP2 has been in heavy rotation recently while anticipating Jai Alai Fronton (worth the long wait!), and unless someone can convince me that the vocal dropout during BIODTL was not part of the original recording then we are definitely good. I am going to go through the others just because it's time to hear them again.

I also have the infamous Disk 3 glitch on DaP28, which was not remedied by a full set replacement or a replacement disk, but I discovered by accident that it consistently plays without incident in the single-tray recording deck of my CD-R player so I have an effective workaround. I own boatloads of jazz & blues CDs going back to the mid '80s and I just haven't experienced a single disk suddenly going bad. There may be audio differences due to the recording standards and formats of the times, but the media seems to hold up remarkably well. I have had CD players go bad and begin to hiccup on different disks, but my current Sony player has been going strong for 20 years.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

Spoiler alert....

....at the end of Uncle John's, Keith pounds all the keys. Hell yeah. "brummmmmm"

1313 Mockingbird Lane

Munsters

6 23 74

AWESOME

Here I Wait

It should definitely be here by 1:30 p.m. tomorrow according to my most recent update. Of all the late comers.

Jimbo - I'm going to go with Cumberland.

7743 of 22000

It's a majestic release. Thank you to all involved.

Okay...this whole "Mockingbird" thing is starting to get weird

From Dave's 34 liner notes: "CD Mastering by Jeffery Norman at MOCKINGBIRD Mastering, Petaluma, CA".

Hmmmm, there's clearly something going on here...I think we've accidentally cracked some kind of code.

Awesome release however the…

Awesome release however the bonus disc just about blows the lid off my top

It's becoming clear

Obviously the work of Petaluma Al.

Garrett

I hear ya man.. whenever I feel this way, I reach out to specialists to help. Do you have any Allman Brothers??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68iTvhWNB0

Ask President Carter.. Trust me, it always works.

Ledded...

I was lucky enough to see the Screaming Trees & Soundgarden at the Cat's Cradle in Chapel Hill, NC in '88 or '89 I think.
Two bands that have stood the tests of time, for my liking anyway. Trees always make me feel like I'm listening to a 90's version of the Stooges or something. Low-key psychedelia in the 90's....

Also, my first listen to the fabled Jai-Alai...so far, so good. I get it.
Get some...

All I can say is...

....good luck #35. You got your work cut out for you.

Jiminmd

I zipped you a late pm.

Deadfeat1

I zipped you a late pm.

still waiting...

The tracking notice had it set for delivery last Saturday and my entire evening was planned around it-- one of those first beautiful Michigan Spring days to sit on a westward facing back porch, sunglasses, pint, etc. By the time five o'clock rolled around, I knew it wasn't happening.

Updated notice came in today and advised of the package being routed to the incorrect post office. So plan now will be for this coming Saturday, with cold rain and possible snow mix in the forecast. Urghhhh. But will still be better than a Saturday without a new Dave's Picks :-D)

34 is in town

May 1, 2020 Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item

For five days this is what tracking has said. Now says out for delivery!

Keep the faith it's coming.

Thank you!

This show is unreal when compared to the cassette tape I had from earlier! Yes, yes, yes. Also thank you to that board member who was speaking of a cache of entrusted photos from a long gone friend. I asked for them to be posted and you mentioned that had to go somewhere special or nowhere at all. I was a hopeful but didn't know I'd be seeing some of them inside this newest Dave's Picks. Nice work sir, your dear friend would be proud where they ended up and now they are forever part of the Dead Archive, very very cool! Not to mention an honorable word from Dave himself. Cheers!

Hagizmo

Yeah we are talking about the same show, that Field Trip disc was unreleased and is back in print with a remastering as someone mentioned. Can't wait til my copy arrives and give it fresh listen, but the vinyl for RSD 2020 in June has really got me drooling. Now I can have the whole damn day on vinyl. Weird how this stuff can just be had from another time and place, wonderful.

Petaluma Al

Crazy cowboy guy, always shooting guns around Bugs Bunny right?

Bummed -- no DaP 34

So, according to the tracking for DaP 34, "Shipment received acceptance pending" at my local P.O. But nothing yet, so I called the P.O. and the helpful guy there informed me that no, the package is not there and in fact Dave's 34 is "not even in the system yet." Meaning that the sender generated the label and the P.O. theoretically accepted the assignment to transport... but the actual physical object has never been brought to the Post Office for shipping. It's not that it is stuck at the P.O. -- according to this guy, it has not even been sent yet.

Can anybody help with this? I tried to PM Marye but her name is not accepted when I try to type it in... Is there an email I can try? Dr. Rhino or someone? This is frustrating... First world problems I know, but still.

Thanks...

Maine Dave

I had the pending status until yesterday evening too, but then bing bang boom, out for delivery. just hang on tight :)

Maine Dave

I have the same this thing here in Maryland. UPS and USPS are both pointing fingers at each other, and playing the COVID19 card.

I just want a realistic expectation for when I’ll receive this item. Instead it’s in a black hole.

UPS - USPS Handoff Standoff

Yep, my Dave's has also been hung up since Saturday morning when UPS handed it over to USPS. No further updates since then. USPS tracking still says, "Your shipment was received at 9:00 am on May 2, 2020 in MIDLAND, TX 79711. The acceptance of your package is pending." UPS tracking still states package will be "delivered on May 2 by end of day." Lame.

Not leaving on a jet plane - yet...

My copy was received by UPS in Fontana, CA on Mayday. The same day it got passed to the post office and subsequently processed by the international carrier. Now it seems to be waiting on a trans-pond flight. Could be a while due to the current paucity of flights.

Dave"s 34 is here

Mine came yesterday, one for me and one for my brother. I live in the S.F. Bay Area. Now it's time for the Workingman"s Dead & American Beauty 50th anniversary release. I hope they release a full live 1970 show for each one, acoustic and electric. Or maybe more, maybe a 10 show box set, more the merrier! It will probably go on sale in June.

Dave's 34

I received this on Friday, which was a nice surprise because it seems I typically receive mine at the end of the delivery cycle for this side of the pond, despite dwelling close to the center of the postal universe.

I'm through the 1st set and my first impression is that Garcia's lead playing during Bobby's verse singing is just off the charts. He's not really playing fills. He's playing continuously and its just blistering, interesting note runs he's absolutely nailing. Particularly on Black Throated Wind and El Paso.

Last 5 - Pre Dave's 34

Dead - 4-29-72 - Hamburg
Dylan - Knocked Out Loaded
Dylan - Oh Mercy
Dylan - Pat Garret and Billy the Kid
Dylan - Street Legal

Shipping Europe

same with me, Fontana, CA, May 1st, at 6.11h transferred to US Post. No updates yet.
Doesn't look too bad. I guess 2 to 3 weeks for arrival.
G.

Dave’s Picks Vol. 34 USPS has not received anything

Maine.Dave - Check your PM

Finished DP 34, sweet!

Finished DaP 34 this morning, which was sweet!

Garcia Live #13 arrived this morning! How convenient! Will probably segue into some Bruce after that.

Cannot wait for the Workingman's/Beauty 50ths. Hope they do a compete show release with them, and/or release the rest of 2/13-14.

Tidbit: 1970 and 1971 fare the worst in terms of top 10 (via DeadBase) shows being fully released. Neither year has fully released top 10 show.

Though 5/2/70 and 5/15/70 are only missing one song. 2/13&14 are missing big chunks/all of the early shows. Nada from the other 6 top 10s that year.

The closest '71 comes is 8/6 from Dicks 35, but it is missing 8 songs. 4/27-28-29 are partials (Skull & Roses, Ladies & Gentleman) with big chunks missing and 10/31 (Dicks 2) is just the 2nd set.

1974 is unique in that with Da34, all 10 of the top 10 shows have now at least been partially released. Only 3 are complete: 5/19 (PNW), 2/24 (Da13), and 6/23 (Da34). 10/18-19-20 are partials (Steal Your Face, GD movie + bonus + Soundtrack, So Many Roads) missing 10+ songs each. 6/26-28 are split on Dick's 12, most/all of the 2nd sets; half on 6/18 is RT2#3, and 8/6 has 5 songs of filler on D31.

Anywho, I'd love for them to go back and complete/finish some of the iconic shows that are incomplete. Be it as part of a larger box (Fillmore '70, Closing of Fillmore East '71, Winterland '74), as part of anniversary releases, or utilizing filler space better on yearly Dave's releases.

Shipping Notice

This is CRAZY Nothing was updated from May1st until noon today Mat 5th. May 1st it was supposed to arrive at post office but when I called they had no record. Then today. 4 and a half days later it arrived and when I called they said it would be delivered tomorrow. The post office said UPS may have said it arrived at the loading dock but until the post office scans it is is officially NOT ARRIVED. My post office did say there has been a lot of confusion with a lot of tracking numbers ???

As lone as I get it but this is CRAZY.......................I would say be Patient it will show up

Also does anyone out there have the first issue of High Times Magazine? I have two that have the same insides but the cover is different ( same lady eating a mushroom ) but one is Paper and one is like a foil?? and the type margin is different for the list of what is inside.

Chuck

No status until last night. …

No status until last night. It was in my mailbox this morning (in Phoenix, AZ). I am ripping it right now - can't wait to listen to it after work tonight!

High Times

It looks to me like the original was a paper cover.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-TIMES-SUMMER-1974-1ST-EDITION-OF-HIGH-TIM…

16749 - Plano

Ripping now. I understand it has beat that's great to spackle by.

….. I can lay spackle much longer, my arms are getting tired.
Those corners kept me up past 4....

Yeah, Weird

....so what's up with so many people having this shipment fall into a black hole once it supposedly gets to the post office? Same thing as others have described is happening on this end as well; it's been sitting since May 1st at a somewhat local post office with a status of "package acceptance pending". WTF does THAT mean? It's been there since FRIDAY. I get there is a pandemic - and other shipping priorities - but this is just looking like incompetence or perhaps some other tracking snafu that is more pervasive than I might have suspected.

Hopefully this gets "unstuck" in the system....I will try calling tomorrow if my email sent today goes unanswered....I don't have high hopes.

Glad others are receiving and it's sounding as it should....aka excellent.

Sixtus

"Let It Rock"

Just sounds so damn good on Dave's 34...the band is rocking-and-rollin, hitting on all cylinders, sounding like they're having a blast! I kind of wish the band would have added this tune to their set lists a lot more often, maybe splitting time with "Big River".....so much potential there.

What A Gem Of A Show!

I cannot believe the clarity of this show. This is definitely going in my top 10 Dave's Picks rotation. I've been listening to it through my studio monitors and it's mind blowing! The band is so tight, Bobby's vocals are pitch perfect, Jerry's playing is impeccable, the entire band is hitting every note with perfect timing...including Donna! What a great set...I just wonder why this didn't come out sooner. Thanks Dave!

mail innovations

Usually you get a UPS tracing number with your shipping email that didn't happen this time we got the USPS tracking which usually isn't updated till UPS hands it over to USPS.

DP34

Wow! Thanks DL and team. This release is already in my top 5 DP shows, and maybe climbing! Jerry's work on Lay Me Down, and some of his runs throughout the show are amazing. Definitely looking for more versions of Let It Rock.... so tasty. And Cumberland Blues, which is THE song that sucked me into this Dead Life; I haven't heard one that tops this version.

I'm numb with Numb....

....agreed on both counts. Top 5 Dave's for sure, maybe top 3. Cumberland from E72 is what got me on the bus as well, and this version is also Top 5 I've heard, maybe Top 3.
https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-23.mtx.seamons.105983.flac16/gd74…
....for those who haven't got it yet, and don't mind cheating, take a gander!
Bonus disc tonight.

The goddamn Grateful Dead

I can't stay here much longer, Melinda
The sun is getting high

Dark Star jam working on 2-3rd listening....blah blah i know bigger things right now but missing some Stanley Cup Playoffs...last five pretty much Dead with this and tons of May shows 5/5/77 New Haven kicked off light box

Sixtus

My Dap has stalled at Shrewsbury USPS since may 1st.. I'm not really worried yet. Mabey a little. I have been spinning giants box today.

Dave's Picks 34

This one is definitely a winner! Ok, it's time to release the October 74 Winterland shows as a complete box set, probably have videos to go along with it!

It's Agreed Then

The Grateful Goddamned Dead.

Too funny.. one of the releases I was most excited for and the mail is all over the place. I can't get a good read on where mine is, where it's going and when it will get here. It puts things in perspective though.. our good friends across the pond and around the globe go through this every time.

I think we can chill out a little and just take this one. We've been waiting 46 years for this, what's another week.

If I had to guess, I expect mail innovations is at least a partial contributor to the schizophrenic deliver this time. Well, mail innovations combined with a peak period in covid19 destruction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H1lcubN0oE

Be safe all.. taking some creative liberties with a Jimmy Martin tune.. be thankful you're living, drink up and stay home.

Thanks for all the responses

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who weighed in on the mailing snafu... I thought I was 1 in a million but having read that many others are going through the same weirdness, I feel a bit better. Not that I'm happy that others are stalled out as well, but... I guess it feels better to know that I'm not the only one? Like, maybe this is an issue that will work itself out, given the odd circumstances we're all living under these days.

Perspective helps, as they say.

Also, thanks to the kind folks who sent me PMs.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled... err... June box, I guess? And keep washing your hands, everybody...

Forensic Photos

I like hearing the perspectives of the folks who don't post much. I see people with accounts opened years ago I've never heard of, and with good food for thought. Keep postin'

It is a fact that I can't remember these numbered volumes and dates on most of these releases. Sure I know 5/2/70 is DP 8 / Harpur College; 5/8/77 is The Monster at Barton Hall from GSTL; 8/13/75 is One From the Vault. Those big shows are easy enough; but more times than not I need a title, and the title hast to come from something significant about the show or album cover artwork: Skeleton Skaters; Scooby Doo House; Opium at the Orpheum; Return to Normal with the Grateful Dead, and so on and so on.

After reading Doc's name in lights in the DaP 34 booklet, I have the just exactly perfect title: "Forensic Photos"

Drink Up and Go Home

Great tune, I saw Garcia and Grisman play it at the Warfield Theatre. Great version on the Good Ole Boys cd.

Jam > Ship Of Fools

I love the Jam into Ship Of Fools to kick off the second set. I also love the US Blues Jam out of Spanish Jam.
Dicks Picks 12 — 6/28/74 Boston has a spectacular US Blues Jam out of a Weather Report Suite and a Mind Left Body Jam.
Clearly the band was playing at a very high level IMO

Am I the only one...

...for whom USPS shows a status of "USPS Currently Awaiting Package"?

No Ben

A number of us have gotten the "awaiting" message and then it just shows up at the door. I got one and mine still said awaiting even after delivery the other day. I'd like to say it's the pandemic but it's not, there a monkey driving this locomotive and some times he jumps the track...

Thanks, Dire

Appreciate the response!

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