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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6251
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    8/7 it is..

    Tomorrow's show?

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    testing, testing - Radio High Desert here. hello Dear Friends and Fellow Travelers - hope you and your loved ones are all well. a little late - this is the anniversary of a favorite and super sweet show - Alpine 8/7/82, formally released as Dicks Picks 32. Yep, I was there, so was my youngest brother. A beautiful evening in southern Wisconsin. this and the next night, 8/8/82, with John Cippolina and Zakir Hussain mysteriously showing up on stage in America's Dairyland, were foundational, life changing. Super solid '82 1st set. Music > Sugaree > Music opener. No idea how crazy rare that was at the time. Roses / CC Rider / more Roses a-Rambling. before the show my dear brother, all of 12(?) at the time, had said he wanted to hear On The Road Again. I said "No Way, not happening." Wrong (again) - No hay way? Si, hay way! One of a handful of electric versions! Always love Althea. And a Let It Grow out in low rolling Midwest farmland??!!
    But its the 2nd set, of course, that takes this to the level of "Sacred Alpine". Laying it down now - this China > Rider is flat out one of the greatest versions post hiatus. at times Jerry sounds like he's finger picking during the jam, it builds and builds and builds, and just when you think they're settling into that first verse of Rider, he and Brent go long and pull out that little pre-hiatus breakdown and it is flat out - stone - cold - gorgeous. classic great Rider, Phil and Jerry crushing it on northbound train. swinging early funky Women Smarter. Ship of Fools (always). Excellent Playing, with a sweet long jam into drums. Again, laying it down - the Wheel that emerges from the waves of Space rolling over the those dark hills and sleeping cows is without question one of the most beautiful live versions I've heard. Into a exquisite Playing reprise. And then (of course) Morning Dew. Monster version. Yep - just another Saturday Night out there in the rolling pastureland. Shook the hand with Uncle Sam. it was beautiful. A few words of caution, this had a classic Latvala caveat emptor. this is an early 80s Healy board, Phil was way higher in the shed mix then the SBD, sigh, c'est la vie, oh well. Still so very lucky to have this, like all the audience tapes and releases. Best to everybody in these difficult times. With love.

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    and I thought I had slacker employees.

    These guys have it down to exactly how many quarters, nickels and dimes to add to the pay phone for a truly convincing flu.

    This is really good stuff, hilarious. I wish I was hanging you guys back then. I would have taken notes and gone much further in life than I did... (not that I am complaining)

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    Put in 4x the amount of money so that the message to add more coins doesn’t come on during the call.

    Yeah, got up too late that day, and my friends didn’t have to work so they were in no rush. Almost missed calling in sick before my shift started because I forgot that I was in central time zone and was an hour behind my job. Luckily the pay phone at the rest area wasn’t being used when I got there.

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    Nice seats Bob t. I will keep my eyes out for you and the crew.

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    Lmao, you brought back many memories! Most are funny now but at the time....yeah, sometimes the hard way is the only way to learn! So Remember kids what fat Freddy says: getting drunk THEN stoned is like pissing in the wind! 3/13/81 anyone! Lol.
    Especially enjoyed the “cause I had a job“ and the calling in sick from a pay phone!
    Missed a few top shelf shows because of some BS job, like 7/19/89, 4/9/89, and had to do the pay phone thing several times. Forget what the trick was but there was a way to have the call go through normal without the boss knowing it was LD. Of course the hard part was getting up at the right time and finding a quiet pay phone to call in at just the right time!

    Oh, and big thanks to GOGD for that awesome 2012 Dave video! Between that and his wish list from back then it’s interesting what’s been released and of course what hasn’t been but might...

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    My 3rd and 4th shows. Like a fool I didn’t go on the 23rd because I had a job. Which I missed that day anyway and had to call in ‘sick’ from a pay phone at a rest area on I-57 north of Kankakee.

    On the 21st I was just outside the gate when the music started. They had pulled closed tall chain link gates because people were trying to sneak in. So we were standing there, with legit tickets, waiting to get in. Finally got in and had to squeeze in on the lawn.
    Traffic was a disaster that day, complete traffic jam on I-80. I know someone who, along with hundreds of other cars, just parked on the shoulder of I-80 and ran to the venue. I think that the closure of I-80 that day, along with other problems, is why it had to be Soldier Field from then on.

    Jim, your description of me is accurate, except that was 7-17-89, where I drank beer all day in the hot sun, but wasn’t old enough to buy beer inside. Didn’t eat enough food, had some paper, lost my friends, didn’t drink enough water, then about lost it when Jerry played a few notes of Close Encounters Theme during Space. But everything came back together during Gimme Some Lovin.
    Awesome initiation and learning experience for me, being by myself at my 2nd show and having too much too fast. Memories......

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    Upon re-listening to these Radio City shows from 10/30 & 10/31 they are definitely a couple of high-profile gigs that the GD really lived up too.

    Having known bits and pieces of these two shows from essentially the beginning of my tape collecting days, I've always wanted to listen to them in their entirety as an experience.

    I remember collecting both runs from the Warfield & Radio City and being bummed that there weren't complete SBD sources available, sound quality varied tremendously between shows and tapes and that it was a real pain in the ass trying to determine what existed and what didn't and the best versions etc.

    Not sure if I sat down and listened to them after I got all the shows as I was burnt out by that time. But this latest re-listen was really cool.

    I'd read an article with Betty recently about the editing process of Dead Set and that planted the seed to go back and check it out, so I started with the remaster of that album. Props to Betty, she really could pick the best takes on songs the band played during a run. The Dark Star from Live Dead is a great example. It's always Betar with Betty! Dead Set was in heavy rotation in my early collecting days, it was the best sound quality & closest thing to current live Dead we could get BITD, so we played that album, and Dead Ahead VHS tape ALL THE TIME in high school. And I love those versions of these songs.

    I followed up Dead Set with the full recording including sketches of 10/31 on Wednesday and then 10/30 yesterday. I decided to Watch set 3, the first half released as bonus material on Dead Ahead remaster and the 2nd part available on YouTube (thanks JimInMD & DeadVikes for the reminder). Man if you haven't checked it out, DO! You gotta see Drums with Billy Cobham to get the full effect, it's awesome, Kreutzmann is freaking out.

    Really enjoyed that whole trip and these are some really solid shows, 3 full sets each night and the last two nights of this legendary tour of historic halls never to be repeated again. It might not be the Dead at their best, but it's the best Dead we have, so dig it. 10/30/80 On The Road Again is the definitive version and Jerry's call and response gets me every time.

    Listening to the opening of 10/31 you can imagine the tension as the band deals with technical difficulties when they hit the stage and are filming a live TV Simulcast (A first at the time?, rare for sure). I mean this is 40 years ago, I know what happened and I was still feeling nervous for them as Phil's gear squawks and squeaked. And what happens? Epic versions of Heaven Help The Fool & Sage & Spirit (last time for each?) that's the magic right there! That's the stuff I love.

    Highly recommend a couple of supplemental videos, the famous Press Conference for these shows (I guess it's you and me bub, I mean Bob), and Bob & Jerry's appearance on GMA, they're both a real treat and they really set the shows up in the proper context.

    Alright, lots of good stuff here. Thanks for tripping with me, this has been on my to do list for awhile, and I really enjoyed it.

    Who here saw these shows? Stories?

    OB: Thanks for the Meyer Sound webinar tip, looking forward to checking that out.

    As for pick today, take your pick! Catch up on 10/30 & 10/31 if you haven't already, Listen to DaP V35 if you have it already, or there's the DiP V31 stuff BobT pointed out, which is epic. And we got the final Shakedown Stream tonight of 7/21/90. Wowee.

    Happy Friday All!

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    10/30/80 awesome, have never listened to any of these complete shows. Great for working, nice long shows too, must of been awesome to have been there! Looking forward to 10/31 today, and of course SS this evening. Oh, and don’t forget the Meyer Sound webinar about their history with the dead going all the way back to the wall of sound before there was a Meyers sound! It really is a great time to be a DH.

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    Best tickets I ever got from mail order was this run. I was in grad school in Illinois, we got 5th row, 3rd row and 10th row for the 3 days right in front of Bob. I feel bad for the person behind us because my friend i went with was 6' 4"!!! bob t

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 14:55

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 16:19

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 21:07

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 05/05/2020 - 05:05

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 05/05/2020 - 06:52

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 05/05/2020 - 07:36

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/05/2020 - 08:45

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 07:00

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 09:40

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:41

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:44

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 14:30

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 15:29

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 16:06

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 16:09

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 16:14

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 06:25

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 07:34

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 08:36

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I’m there. And was there.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 12:18

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 13:11

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 14:14

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 14:38

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 15:11

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 15:44

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .