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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #871
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    Dogs

    How Dogs Became Man’s Best Friend

    A story told by some Native American peoples is that the Great Spirit decided to divide the worlds of animals and man.
    He gathered all the living beings on a great plain and drew a line in the dirt.
    On one side of the line stood man and on the other side stood all of the animals of the earth.
    When that line began to open up into a great canyon and at the last moment
    Before it became too great to cross, the dog jumped over and stood by man.
    – Unknown -

    Give a man a fire and he’ll be warm for the day.

    Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life

  • #872
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    luckily...

    I have had next to no interactions with police.

    One speeding ticket when I was young and dumb
    one pullover for ???
    one pullover because I changed lanes too fast.

    "so much things to say right now"...but dead.net isn't really the place.

    just BE KIND and respect your fellow human beings, my people.

  • #873
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    my sense is that the blackout...

    is to halt business as usual and think deeply about current affairs, and keep thinking, and act.

  • #874
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    Blackout, Dogs, and Cops

    BLACKOUT: had no clue....it was fine, just wish they would have announced it. Hopefully it helped make a difference!
    It did inform me that perhaps I’m obtaining a bit of a addiction here lol.

    DOGS: love most animals, especially Dogs, it’s people I tend to have problems with. Some Dogs people will say “careful, their not nice, or their not friendly”....me, they love me! Go figure...real unconditional love, loyalty honesty...always glad to see you...amazing.
    I’ve had a Irish setter that was really smart and well trained, a Lab/Husky, and lived for 5 years at a place with the best, smartest, mellowest Golden Mutt ever. This dog would look at you and you felt like perhaps they were a person last go round and now their stuck in this dog body lol. The dog would basically telepath it wanted to go out. Living where we did that meant just opening the door and letting her go. When she wanted to come back in, she would bark once. Then she would wait patiently. If no one let here in within five minutes, she’d bark again just once. Amazing dog! Oh, and she loved the Dead and music in general. I Played music with her owner and she loved to come curl up at your feet on stage while the band was playing! Owner was tight with LOS and she would do that sometimes at their gigs too!
    Labs and Golden’s are awesome, but they need room and a lot of exercise. Both are fun and can be great partners and both usually have good personalities. Their usually really good with kids. But dogs, like people, definetly have personalities so it’s usually best if you can spend time or get to know them before you have to choose. My last Dog was a lab/Husky mutt and I immediately liked him out of the rest of the large litter....because the crazy little guy was already slipping away from mama and getting into stuff at four weeks old, lol. You could tell right then and there he was going to be a handful, named him Aiko because he had that vibe..hey now! Here i come, wuff!
    He was a handful when he was young, but eventually became an awesome well behaved companion.

    TIPS: get them fixed ASAP before they know what there missing etc, I didn’t for over a year and it was a big mistake....since he was fully mature by then and had “gotten some”, so it took years for him to calm down that way even after he’d been fixed. Be prepared to spend A LOT of time that first year. If you wait too long it’s much harder to get good results. You’ll thank yourself because there is nothing better than a life with a cool, mellow, behaved happy dog, and nothing worse than a bad untrained dog. Preferable to get your pup after they’ve been wormed.....
    Insurance. Currently don’t have any pets but my understanding is nowadays you really need insurance....
    Chewing: they do like to chew stuff up. I used crochet balls and old 2x4s. He’d instantly chew anything else up (until older) he couldn’t get enough jaw on the crochet balls and the 2x4s it didn’t matter that he’d shred them, at least they’d last a little while and were free so didn’t matter.
    All dogs can be overprotective and act out. Every dog I’ve ever lived with or known for long has done it at least once, Usually it was just a weird situation and often not all the dogs fault, but it can happen.
    Also, poop! You will be dedicating the next 10-15 years to endless poop; worming, cleaning up, walking, sickness etc.
    In other words, it’s a big decision because it’s a big responsibility! Unfortunately that’s why we don’t have a dog anymore; our lifestyle is not organized and scheduled for the proper care of a dog, and Pedro doesn’t pick up poop, so though I miss not having one, it’s because it wouldn’t be fair to the mutt and I just don’t want all that responsibility these days. Sounds like you have a family to help which can make a big difference and it can be great responsibility learning for a young person. A life with a good dog can be one of the greatest experiences in life, but man is it hard when they go. I’ve lost my folks, all my grandparents, most of my aunts and uncles, even a few friends, but I think losing a good dog that you were really tight with and had a good life with can sometimes be harder. I still get pretty upset if I start thinking too much about missing those guys. I’m getting misty just talking about it...

    COPS: I’ve had a few good experiences with reasonable, polite, and respectful ones, but unfortunately I’ve had more terrible experiences. Leddead your Denver buddies being some of the worst!
    Years ago after a Phil and Phreinds show at the Philmore, I had 4 or 5 beers over the course of several hours, but stopped more than 3 hours before leaving. This is a system I’ve used based on science for years. Basicallly, get a little buzz early, then stop so by the time you leave your totally fine (legally and otherwise).
    So I take the back street behind the Philmore to avoid all the lights on Colfax, and then cut back over near DT so I could get to the expressway etc. Well as I’m not familiar or good in the city, and my night vision sucks, I made a right on red at a place I wasn’t supposed to. Cop is sitting there hiding in an alley just waiting for this. So she pulls me over, and of course asks if I’ve been drinking. Since I knew I was legal etc I said I had a few, a few hours ago. I know, that’s what everyone says, but it was true. So next thing you know there’s a half dozen cops most of which are trying to mess with me and get me to do something stupid so they can mess with me. One even stepped on my toe while getting so close to my face he was spitting on me while he screamed at me. I was never so scarred in my life. Luckily, I know how to act around wild animals so I just stayed calm and was overly polite the whole time. So I take the so called sobriety tests that I can’t pass if it’s first thing on Tuesday and I’m more sober than a baby. It’s a proven fact these tests are designed for failure.
    So of course I fail and they arrest me even though I’ve still not taken a breathalyzer which I’ve been asking to do the whole time. Now I’m pretty beat up for my age, and I’ve had reoccurring shoulder problems, and it’s extremely painful for me to ware the jewelry behind my back which is standard practice for officer safety. So I try to very calmly and politely explain this to the Women cop who originally pulled me over as she was the ONLY one of the posse that wasn’t being intimidating, obnoxious, rude, or trying to violate my rights. But as soon as I did, the brutes slammed me up against my truck and hurt me so bad putting the cuffs on I was crying out in pain. Luckily the ride was short as I was in severe agony.
    So we get to the compound and go into an armored door underground garage. So before we go in the officer has to put her weapons etc in a locker in the garage area. So now she starts getting nervous about taking her hands off me while she attends to this protocol (they don’t want you grabbing their weapon after they take the cuffs off inside).
    So since she’s now alone she’s not comfortable etc and has me stand on the other side of this fortress garage and says don’t go anywhere....so I’m like Mam, im over fifty years old, mostly broken, I’m in extreme agony here cuffed behind like this, what am I going to do, some acrobatic Kung fu shit and fly over there and bite you in the neck because I made an illegal right on red? Kinda like Arlo Guthrie LOL, but it helped reassure her and she actually smiled a little.
    So next it’s this whole long convoluted process to book you and get mug shots etc and I’ve still not had the test. Meanwhile there are now new Neanderthals circled around trying to get me to give them any reason at all to mess with me. At some point they tell me I have to sign shit which lawyer friends say never sign anything! So I politely mention this and before I even finish they start telling me I’m now failing to comply and refuse the test (which I never did) and how I just lost my license and all kinds of other screaming and carrying on until they finally shut up enough so I say, look, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to know what your asking me to sign. So he takes the paper and jams it in my face so close it’s touching my face. Another inch and he would of basically hit me. Now I’m even more scarred...finally, after more threats, screaming, insults, intimidation etc, I get to take the test. Now I’m still not worried about DUI cause I know I’m not illegal etc, but I am worried about getting beat. Again this whole time I’ve never raised my voice. I’ve only spoken when asked to, and I’ve used only Sir, Mam, Officer etc and been extremely polite and respectful. So I take the test and of course barely register any alcohol like less then .001, .08 is the legal limit....but this nut doesn’t believe it so recalibrated the machine and made me blow multiple times, including putting his face next to mine and screaming at me that I’m not blowing hard enough (like a drill Sargent) even though I’m literally out of breath and panting etc...
    Finally the original gal that stopped me (who’s been totally proffesional the whole time) says “enough, he’s good, I’m letting him go and taking him back.” We’ll they have to go through the whole convoluted process in reverse to sign all my stuff back out including my tour laminate (was not looking forward to notifying my cousin that the cops now have full access)...so while this is happening, they take one last run at me trying to get me to give them ANY reason to mess me up and lock me up, all because I failed to obey a traffic sign I never saw...
    This is just one story, I have several others where I wasn’t as worried about being beat, but I did have my rights totally violated, so my 2 cents is that I’m scarred shitless anytime I have to deal with cops. It didn’t used to be as bad, my experiences have gotten worse over the years and I’m white, I’ve never done anything bad (I don’t believe minor drug stuff is bad) and I’ve never actually been convicted with anything except speeding, yet in the last ten years or so anytime I’ve been pulled over I’ve immediately become extremely scarred, nervous, anxious and worried for my safety. If these cops are all so good and there’s only a few bad apples, why should generally law abiding citizens be scarred for their life during even a routine traffic stop (last time had a company truck with tail bulbs out)? Another example, car searches: they rarely did them in the old days, now, it’s almost like standard practice...they used to have to follow the constitution....
    Imagine how our brothers and sisters of color feel....
    We have a serious systemic problem with the recruitment, training, and oversight of our law enforcement in our police state of a so called free democracy. Be careful out there folks....like Kerouac said “avoid authority, go through life like a ghost”

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    you made me check on Robb Johnson, I have none, I want. Amazon has a 5 cd set called "A Reasonable History of Impossible Demands". (I'd want it just for that title!) Used, it's an ok price. Anyone familiar with said album?

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    Simon-no I had no idea what was happening on this website yesterday until someone told me in an email. I am obviously following what is happening on the news, but I never came across any references to social networks-or whatever this is-closing for the day. It almost felt as though they were stopping discussion on the subject by their action. So...an act of protest. I would never have known it if I hadn't been told. I'm not sure what "going black" for the day is supposed to achieve.

  • #877
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    Colin - PERFECT!

    Thick, Rich, White!!!

    Still laughing, but will work that bad boy in, somewhere!

  • #878
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    T.I.H.

    Dead-Shoreline amp. mountain view 6/3/76. Max creek-Capital theater 6/3/89. You could almost find as much acid at max creek gigs as the dead in the 80s. Whew, is it safe to come out now?

  • #879
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    Quotes

    Two that I like, both from Half Man Half Biscuit lyrics:

    “You’re the reason that Paradise Lost”
    “The light at the end of the tunnel is the light of an oncoming train”

    Perhaps a little simplistic but a lyric from Robb Johnson about an earlier Tory government
    “They’re the cream of the nation. Thick, Rich, White”

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    Quote a Day Board!

    I just read somewhere further down someone suggested a quote a day board (sorry forget who), but I thought what a great idea!

    Here's an mean one to start off

    I kept it in a cage, watched it weeping, but I made it stay. - Kate Bush

    :-)

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 12:22

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SIXTUS: whoa, major bummer. It’s often hardest when you think your good and don’t know it’s coming. Remember, when the going gets weird...!
Hang in there, often we take the biggest steps forward after things go sideways or fall apart. Hey, look at the bright side, you can sharpen your frisbee golf skills 😉
Speaking of unforeseen setbacks and new gigs, was it WILFREDTJONES that had similar challenges not so long ago? If so, hows that all worked out?
DENNIS: like Daverock said so well once again, talant isn’t necessarily necessary. It’s just like anything else, if you spend enough time at it eventually you’ll figure it out. I recommend perhaps some basic lessons to get you started; basic cords, perhaps basic scales. Or there are all kinds of sources, but I liked the books....or if you know someone get them to show you some cords and a couple simple songs. There are millions of simple 2 -3 chord songs out there. Once you can play most of the basic chords, move on to bar chords etc. Painful, but necessary. At that point, you should be able to follow along using chord sheets to accompany songs you want to learn. Once you can hear the changes and play along, try to find a open jam and start to play with people, that’s when the real fun starts!
It may sound like a lot, but if you WANT to do it and spend enough time, most folks can learn to play basic guitar.
Of course with your “affliction” your poor wife would probably kill ya in your sleep if you started collecting that shit, 😆 like you and DAVEROCK and some of the others would love this place! (Bought my Ibenez there in 79)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Guitars

DAVEROCK: too damn funny, well said! That was always my joke: “just because we get paid doesn’t mean we’re any good” lol.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 13:28

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Sixtus, really sorry to hear about your job.
Stay strong and we all hope for better times ahead.

Best,

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 13:46

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So sorry man, I was in the same boat in March, all I can say is hang in there man, it will get better. I applied for unemployment and the company tried to screw me out of it, but all came thru and now I am making more than I would have if I had kept working. So file for unemployment and take the cash that they are giving. 600$ from the feds plus what your state will pay depending on the formula your state uses. You earned it and besides, Might as Well. Now you've got all the time in the world to catch up on whatever you need to catch up on, it's all good.

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Submitted by mustin321 on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 14:22

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Billy the Kid- Thanks for the recommendation! ...I feel like I've heard this show talked about a lot, but I'm currently listening and they just came back from Space (great Space by the way!) and back into Playing in the Band. Despite Jerry's vocals sounding about as rough as possible, the performances in this show are outstanding.

Sixtus- I'm right there with ya, currently searching for work. But its been fun listening to shows while on the hunt. I've had the time to go through large chunks of 87 and 89, a lot of good stuff I've never heard before, and several others here and there. (Like 4/28/85). And I'm gonna squeeze in as much as possible because I know this time won't last forever.

As far as releases go - We need more 80's shows for sure! I know that Dave has said there isn't a whole lot available from the 80's, but I'm definitely ready for whatever they have. All of the 80's stuff thats been released is pretty sweet. All the 80's shows from 30 Trips, Dave's Picks 27, RT4.4, Giants Stadium shows, RFK shows, etc...The Music Never Stops!

...that if a thing is worth doing, its worth doing badly. I have had no end of fun doing things I am not very good at...football, cricket and dancing come to mind, as well as playing the guitar. Why should the talented people have all the fun?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 20:15

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....not our Doc, but that Doc. Or is it the same Doc, just in a different timeline? Damnit Back To The Future! Damnit Biff!
I don't play guitar. Have two. Dusty.
Why the GOGD only played Let It Rock once is dumbfounding. But I don't play in the band. I just ingest them.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 21:22

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I guess were brothers with time on our hands now. I feel for you. When one journey ends, another begins I guess. That frisbee golf sounds fun. With beer of course. Carlo out.

Love that avatar

Sixtus, if its any consolation, my wife got laid off in March. We still ok, but I reeeeeeeally want her to get a job soon.

We all are rooting for you, Sixtus.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 23:30

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....in low times. Spanish Jam -> US Blues. Over & Over. Soooooo good. Can't help to smile.
edit. The UJB is gravy. OMSN is the napkin.
Best wishes to everyone....

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 02:13

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Dave's 7 Normal Illinois 4/24/78 to be precise. It starts in the fast lane, and the whole first set burns very brightly. Check out the interplay between Jerry and Bob on second song Rambling Rose-Bob on slide, no less. But it fits in beautifully here. The second set wanes a bit to my ears. The longer it goes on the slower they seem to play-although the Werewolves encore brightens things upo a bit-this time with Jerry on slide.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 04:02

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To all those good people here whose employment has been adversely affected by this insidious virus. This too shall pass, eventually, so hang in there.

As others have opined, thank God for the Good Ol' Grateful Dead during these bizarre times.

If you get confused, listen to the music play.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 07:08

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Slow Dog: yes, Eastman are great guitars for the money, really well-made and extremely resonant when not plugged in. I like my 371 better than some of the more recent ES 175s.
Sixtus, sorry to hear about your job loss. Strange Days indeed, just heard that LA county may be closed through July.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 07:25

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Band names are easy – in high school we had a made up band, “The Yellow Flame”.
Arrested? Hell, they don’t even fingerprint anymore, they know who I am.
Sex tape – Tried, only could manage a short (and that was with upcoming previews)
But my band is gonna take a different direction. I kinda going the Richard Cheese route. I going to do my own angry rap lyrics over Andy Williams songs, instead of hard rock done lounge style.

My rapping name will be “Twisted Jay”

Born Free as free as the wind blow…..

They made me a slave the day I was born.
Locked me on a ship and sent me abroad.
Hooked me to a plow, treated me like a mule.
Picked their cotton and made their food

Born Free as free as the wind blows…..

Fast forward to today, Has anything changed?
Life ain’t no different, what can I say.
Stick up the head, shot while unarmed.
Nothing but sorrow left for my moms.

Born Free as Free as the Wind blows……

Never been free in the USA
When I walk down the street, whites go the other way
When I go to court, it’s pay, pay, pay
Wednesday in America is just another day.

Born Free as free as the wind blows

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 10:00

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The extremely gracious and heartfelt support from this group sincerely touches my emotions in a powerful way; your positivity, gentle reminders of what we are ALL capable of, and true sincerity shine through the words on the page.

The common awe of The Grateful Dead is why we're all here.
The takeaway, for me, is so much more than that; it's difficult to clearly express in words but my sincere gratitude is hopefully apparent in return.

Thank you All for your support and kind words.

-Sixtus

P.S. Disc Golf course is indeed open!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 17:37

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That's what's coming after Dave. Dark stars on every release bird songs on every release.

How does this show sound so good? I think Norman's filtering it through a stereo expander. Every once in awhile I talked about the Poweramp app that I use on my phone to listen to the Grateful Dead on. Android only. The sound enhancement tools make these to track recordings sound so much better I can't even begin to tell you what you're missing. But I guess you have to have a good pair of noiseless headphones to not crappy earbuds. But anyway it almost seems like Jeffrey Norman is cleaning up the sound a lot more with digital tools that in the past. Plus you figure every 5 years or so they probably have some kind of big technology come out of that Roswell crash. But anyway I'm just thinking about how much better I can make Dave's Picks Volume 2 sound simply by running it through a couple of filters. If I can do that Norman can do that and I think he has a lot more stuff like that at his disposal than ever before. Great job Jeff we love it. This doesn't even sound like a '74 for fucksake.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 19:27

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...if anyone missed out on these two most recent Dave’s picks from 2020 series, send me a PM Message. Theirs a place that has a couple copies available for face value 🙏❤️💀🌹

Please don't post here just to sell stuff.

🙏❤️💀🌹

Regardless of the terms. This place cannot become a resale venue, it would simply ruin the spirit of well... everything. Set up an eBay account or go somewhere that is better set up to handle this kind of stuff.

PM or not, secret handshake or not.. if it's someone else selling it and not you, or not.. another site or not.. purportedly for sale at face value or not, it's poor form and very much what dead.net is not intended to be. This is not a secondary market, and it's just weird to advertise selling Dave's Picks (or anything) here for sale. And the whole way this comes across just feels dirty and shady. Week after week, time after time. Please stop it.

How about a nifty little tune to drive the point home.

LMG if you please
I am on my bended knees
don't post to sell any shit here, anymore.
anymore.
anymore oh ohh-oore. ANYMORE!

Glad I got that off my chest. whew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DCAFUerzs

Now, …Back to your regularly scheduled Drums and Space.

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Submitted by Butch on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 03:35

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LMG, what you're doing isn't cool. To anyone. Not to the people who have felt ripped off by you. Not by the dead.net site, whose terms of use not only prohibit reselling their stuff, they prohibit any use of their website for selling, so double whammy there. And personally it makes me feel like what if however unlikely you really are the insider you claim to be and these CDs you're selling were courtesy gifts to you? And then you turn around and sell them when someone legit could have gotten a copy. And you're only selling these face value because it's all they're worth. Your Europe CDs weren't so inexpensive.

This is at least the thrid time I remember people asking you to stop, so why don't respect dead.net and it's customers.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 04:10

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I’m not trying to sell anything to anybody. I had lunch with a friend and found a record store near by that has them for sale.
Just trying to help somebody/family Run Indie Record Shop.who’s caught up in this medical crisis we are all experiencing with this deadly virus and as you all probably already know a lot of people are out of work and trying to find funds and money to keep their businesses and their families open alive and fruitful.
Have a grateful day! 🙏❤️💀🌹
***PS***
I bought my 2nd copy of Dave’s Picks #5,at a Fye Music Store in The Garden State Mall by The Newark airport in New Jersey, for $35.00!

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Submitted by simonrob on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 04:52

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I wasn't aware that Dave's Picks were distributed to retail. If not, why would a record store buy them from here and then sell them for the same price. That ain't how it works. I always have my doubts about LMG's posts and this one is no different.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 05:15

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I call bullshit LMG......someone correct me if I’m wrong but Dave’s Picks are not sold in mass to independent record stores so that they can turn them for a profit. They are limited edition copies that are only available through dead.net. So then, if said record store is purchasing them for resale then they are doing so at retail, and now that the production numbers are higher they are having a hard time getting rid of them for anything more than “face value”. I have no sympathy for them or you and since you have proven yourself to be a liar in other circumstances, I have no reason to believe you now either....almost like the boy who called WOLF except in this case you are the boy and the WOLF. Cut your deck to the queen of spades, but the cards are all the same....

I think someone else here said it best.....go sell your PBJs at another entrance.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 06:09

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... I can tell by your posts you have no idea how the Business operation goes especially a record music store & RSD participation
I’m not going to debate or go any further but to say once again, “I am not selling anything to anyone on this website And this harassment Needs to stop & Will BE Fixed🙏❤️💀🌹

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I want to end this nonsense with this notion; when the Dave’s pick series began in 2011 or 2012 I didn’t have a computer or any internet device or access,so I went to my local record shop at that time in my life, and the owner/old friend ordered me subscription. ; that’s just one example ...
Now let’s all move on peacefully. Be safe everyone, rock on my Brothers and sisters 🙏

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 06:30

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Are they opening up in the US? Over here they are all closed except for mail order. I realise that your various states are at different stages of relaxing any lockdown whereas England at least is likely to act as a nation.
If anyone reading does have some idea of the business can they say if DaP’s are released to record stores on RSD? I’d be interested to know.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 07:28

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To my knowledge Dave’s Picks has never been part of the annual RSD drop. I go every year to a handful of record stores and have never seen them. Furthermore RSD has been rescheduled for 2020 for three separate weekends in the fall:

https://www.jambase.com/article/record-store-day-rsd-drops-dates

Harassment? You are the only one who continues to harass others on this site with repeated offers to sell goods. I have seen many here offer to give things away for free, but you are the only one that I’ve noticed who is selling. The most recent violation that I know of was when a few months ago you offered a unopened copy of Dave’s Picks Volume 2 for $225 via PM, and then claim that you are only doing it for your “meds”.....

As a reminder....Last summer, you personally ripped me off charging $900 for “beautifully framed” Stanley Mouse artwork that arrived without frames. You also told me that you would throw in for free a D&C summertour print that never arrived. Then you subsequently posted the same prints for sale at a significantly cheaper price and said you were doing so as a favor to Mr. Mouse personally. Ughh...it’s just disgusting!

Harassment???? You know where you can stick that comment

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Submitted by gben on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 07:32

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Are folks still waiting to receive their copy? I live in CA and have not heard word one, no shipping notice, and no package in my mailbox. Are there other folks still waiting?

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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 07:35

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I’m not usually an anniversary show listener - unless one lines up with the era that I was already looking for - but that’s what happened this morning with the ‘78 show from 30 Trips.

An underrated show from that box - it has a ton of fire and energy. The 17+ minute Let It Grow to end the first set is an absolute scorcher.

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Submitted by mustin321 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 09:13

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Not to get in the middle, but if someone is ripping someone off on a site designed for comments pertaining to the current release, that is bullshit of the worst kind. I don't want to speak for everyone, but I come to this site for the kind community created by great music, to hear interesting stories, and learn more about this band, or just music in general. Much gratitude for the good souls out there.

Dave's Picks have definitely not ever been a part of Record Store Day. RSD releases are primarily vinyl releases, and Dave's Picks has never been issued on vinyl. If my memory is correct, the only Grateful Dead RSD release issued on CD was the Warfield Acoustic sets, and that was also issued on vinyl. All that being said, I have seen a couple of "new" Dave's Picks for sale at Indy CD/Vinyl here in Indianapolis. I don't recall the exact prices, but they were somewhere around $40. I say "new" because they obviously had to be bought here first, as they are not distributed to any retail stores, and it was still sealed... I've never heard Dave say "If they sell out here, check out your local record store..."
But however they ended up there, it doesn't matter, a record store is a perfect place to sell new/used CDs. Not here.

P.S. Thanks KevinBrandon for mentioning 1921. That tune gave me a much needed warm fuzzy feeling this morning.

Nice shout to an excellent record store, Indy CD & Vinyl! I love that place. I hope it survives the lockdown.

I have given the latest Dave's Picks release a couple of listens-through, and it is as expected. Excellent. I had this show on tape back in those days, and it got a lot of play in the late night hours.

However, the real gem is the bonus CD. I am so glad I bit the bullet in November and bought the subscription again after having passed on it for a couple of years. This may be one of the best bonus discs yet. That's a conversation for another day (or has it already been addressed?): best bonus disc EVER.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 10:34

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Interesting to see your comment on lockdowns Colin, I've been wondering what the situation on the ground is in other places. Things in Montana seem pretty normal except for the fact that with the supply chains out of whack there are things absent from supermarkets and limits on the amounts that can be purchased for certain items like meats and toilet paper. Our state imposed restrictions are starting to be lifted at this time, but we have only had a total of 459 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 16 deaths in a population of about 1 million spread over a land area of 147,040 square miles. In contrast, on the news last night I noticed that they reported about 10% of the state population applied for food assistance of some sort last month, so it seems the economic impacts out here may have exceeded the impact of the virus to date.

As far as your statement that England is acting as a nation and your implication that the US is not, Montana is an example of the fact that different states in the US are having different experiences with the virus as we are clearly in a different situation than the New York city area where the virus has run wild, and different responses are appropriate. England has a population of about 56 million spread over a landmass of 50,346 square miles whereas the US has about a population of about 330 million spread over 3,797,000 square miles, ranging from sparsely populated western states like Montana to densely populated urban areas in states like New Jersey or New York. I don't know how well a one size fits all strategy works in England, but I can tell you I can't see how it makes sense to treat Montana the same as New York City when conditions are totally different in each location.

Looking at the economic damage that has already resulted from the shutdowns, I have to wonder how long the shutdowns can be sustained before there is lasting damage resulting in famine and shortages and collateral deaths from the economic damage that is accruing. The UN has already warned of the possibility of famines resulting from the disruptions caused by COVID-19 so it seems there should be some assessment of the misery and death that will inevitably result from an extended shutdown as well as the potential death toll of the virus. Having barely avoided losing my home in the economic crash a decade ago, I am not eager to repeat the experience.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 11:07

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...is it just me, or does it seem outrageous that a person with so many serious health problems is meeting people for lunch in one of the most dangerous areas of the country? Not sure which infraction is worse?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 11:39

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Not cool!

If you truly want people to believe your message of peace, love, and happiness for all, then you should promptly refund his money.

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Submitted by direwulf on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 12:50

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Gre-e-e-easy. Its becoming bleak in here, what with the apocalypse and such. Pretty soon someone will be offering up chunks of their neighbor at discount prices. If there was a Dave's for sale at FYE it would have to be found in some sort of used bin not for sale on the floor like a regular cd set. Not fulfilling an arrangement would be downright offensive. It would appear shameful behavior abounds as of late. That bonus disc though, WOW! Some truly unique and great playing throughout, superb distraction from it all.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 13:38

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Apologies if I triggered you in some way. I was only asking if record stores were reopening. I assume from what you are saying that they probably are in Montana.
I am fortunate in some ways that I took early retirement a few years ago so I don’t have a job to lose and my income hasn’t been cut. Of course, this also means I’m old so if I do get the virus I’m at a higher risk of dying. My best wishes and thoughts to everyone who are losing their jobs or have lost friends and relatives. These things too will pass away.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 14:22

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No worries, your post just got me wondering and that got me rambling, which may have come off different than intended. Hopefully I didn't offend you either.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 14:26

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I found an album tucked away since the early eighties. The knack. Remember when they came out? So out of left field when this band popped up. P.S.- cheech and Chong came out with their version called ma,ma,ma, my scrotum.

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