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  • #1281
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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

  • #1289
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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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This "Morning Dew" is beyond special and is one of the most moving musical passages ever recorded, IMO. Listen carefully and absorb every note. Guaranteed to fill your soul and make every aspect of your life better. **

**Nothing in Bolo's statements to reader will be construed as a promise of guarantee about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes on which Bolo advises reader. Bolo makes no such promises or guarantees. Bolo's comments about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes are expressions of opinion only.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:39

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....it happens with this band. Like. A lot. I'll sign that affidavit.
Some shows are a complete moving passage. Just gotta poke around.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:42

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PITB & Set 2 does it Every Time! = Magic

And What Bolo said.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 20:53

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An unbelievable show and great release. Can't believe they got this on multi-track.

Agree with all the thoughtful comments made on this show.

Oroborous.. I will be sure to finish reading your post with my morning coffee. Glanced it over it and started cracking up.. I think I want to save it for a caffeinated me.

The whole show is just a gem. So, I remember the first time I heard this show from the official release from 2007 and thought Wow, unreal. Too many highlights. Probably my favorite Round and Round, yes the faster Eyes, Good Lovin, Samson, Scarlet. This show was mixed by Norman but not mastered. Plangent, yes. Interesting to me. I have given this show to many people as an example of just how good these guys were.

Tomorrow, how about the Cow Palace show from 3/23/74? Dick's 24. First Wall of Sound show. Yes, it is not the full show.

Thanks a bunch folks.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 22:20

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....is the best New Years.
Y'all better fire up that Deere Jim. Vroom, vroom. Where we're going, we don't need bad vibes.
I member what I was doing 12.31.76. Playing with a Star Trek playset. I loved that thing.
Oblivious....🙄
Five months later, Star Wars came along. 1977 kicks ass.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 23:27

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Now you’re talking VGUY
Got a Mego Star Trek Enterprise and the crew for my Birthday in ‘76. The transporter was cool!

First NYE show since ‘72 and I think you’re right about it being the best.

Love The 70s!

Don’t remember what I was doing in March of ‘74..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 03:09

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Nice legal disclaimer from Bolo24, Esquire. What a way to start the day.

Reminds me of Mickey's comment, "I'm actually in the transportation business."

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 06:02

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...all primo picks from everyone’s Choice/ Dicks picks and now Dave’s picks ; top 3 in a row, Wow, that’s really hard, that’s like trying to pick your favorite strain of marijuana! (Medical of course) ;)

...here I go , my three Dave’s Picks is #’s 4,5 & 6
Or, #’s 10,11 & 12
...Here’s my Dicks Picks. #’s 2,3,4,5 or #’s 19,20,21,22 I can’t forget #’s 36, 35, 34 & 33..and then..lol ha ha, this is really hard.
I also believe your “attitude” for the day! , can effect this whole process in picking favorites ;)
Have a grateful day everyone be kind be safe peace be with you all, God bless, The Grateful Dead& all of you Dead heads out there in dead land! 🙏❤️💀🌹
..oh yeah, my pick of the day is Dicks Picks #31
* 8/4-5/74 ‘Philadelphia Civic Center’, Philadelphia PA
Along with * 8/6/74 ‘Roosevelt stadium’ jersey city NJ
** a couple of primo performances right after celebrating Jerry Garcia’s Birthday!!! Love this pick!
*** this Picks has “2’ Wicked’ performances of “Playing in The Band” both are just beautifully playing from the whole Band IMO... Rock on!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:42

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Marvey! I’m in, just as soon as I hit some 12/31/76 highlights again, just because...

Hey, what happened to Four Winds Blow? Hopefully just busy...He was a plaaayer, and watching he and GOGD was like a tennis match 😃

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:47

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I concur with your take on Spring '90 with one minor tweak and a small addition.

The tweak, ..if you are in the right mood.. that Branford Eyes is effortless and sublime. The add, that Mind Left Body is amazing. In fact second set pre-drums is a spectacularly amazing mindphuck. That second set cooks.

They should have released this as a whole show, what were they thinking???

Where were we, what were we talking about again?

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12/31/76, I had a job hanging sheetrock at the time and I was so beat after work I just went home and was in bed by 9pm. I thought about going, you could still get tickets the day of the show, my brother and friends went. 3/23/74, Weir says " no you don't" durring Beat it on down the Line, some guy jumped up on stage and tried to grab Donna. A guy also jumped up on stage and handed Garcia a joint, Garcia took a sniff then took a hit and handed it to someone back stage. Weir said you can really tell who got their tickets over the radio, they were giving free tickets out over the radio. Bolo, were you in the audience that day? I definitely missed some good ones along the way.

We're just messing with you VGuy. If you've seen the Truman Show, well.. I don't want to give away the season finale..

Thanks for being a good sport though. If it helps.. the temperature is going to break tomorrow and you will be in a sailboat by the weekend.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 19:26

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2 days spent at the Cow Palace, sounds like the band liked playing there.

Any Cow Palace stories out there?

Release sounds real good, 10 songs not on release. 4 from Set 1, 4 from Set 2 and double encore.

Missing:
Mexicali, Tennessee Jed, IMHBTR, El Paso, Ship of Fools, Ramble On Rose, MAMU, Around, Casey Jones, OMSN

Comparing the two, release is mighty nice, SBD sounds good, but def noticeable quality difference, in favor of the release, Uh duh.

The final Palindrome. We’ve heard the first & now the last.. might be time for the middle.

This one is heavy, goes far into Playing and then at just the right time spins out a great UJB and then epic Morning Dew (maybe not as good as yesterday’s from 12/31/76 but that’s for you to decide) back into a long and very wonderful UJB jam and lands to dust off the PITB reprise. Loved it

Honorable mention to great late set Bertha!! Jerry is having fun with this one... Lord!

Haven’t been to the 60’s in awhile, ‘68 sounds good to me, what about 3/17/68 Download Series V6? .

Start with set 2 TIFTOO and TOYLL is extra credit (only song that survives from Set 1 they say due to Anthem experiments 🧫)

It’s Friday after all.

This wonderful release, Dick's 24, gave us a glimpse into the greatness of the Wall of Sound recordings in the Vault. Fun to hear the fist live Cassidy.

So interesting to hear them completely restart Playing in the Band, and I am sure glad they did.

68 for tomorrow!

Be well folks.

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Hi-Ya, Hi Ya, Hi Ya Kids!!

Let's dig back in those stacks and pull out some Primal Dead for the POTD

Kick it off with the entire Set 2 from 3/17/68 Download Series V6 released in 2005. (Don't believe it circulated prior to this release?)

Follow that up with Turn On Your Lovelight from Set 1 (Track 1) the only surviving track from that set due to Anthem of the Sun experiments.. as the story goes.

Extra credit:
So Many Roads Disc 1 - Track 8 = Dark Star > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven from 3/16/68

Fun Fact: China Cat would go away for awhile after the March '68 shows and wouldn't come back until April '69

Enjoy and Happy Friday!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 14:14

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May I throw in my suggestion for Road Trips 4.4 - 4/06/82 Philly Spectrum for Saturday? It has been a long time since I've listened, and I need a little ragged-but-right Jerry right now to fit my current mood.

The primal today was fun, but I was so busy, I could only check in a little here and there. Now that night is falling, I might just have to get a little twisted and play it louder than I should.

Peace

OTIS: Do it again, now that you’re right;)

Throw in 6/14/68 Caution from Fillmore Box Bonus Disc & Anthem Of The Sun original mix from 50th Anniversary release and you’ll be stoked.

‘82 sounds good to me!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 15:04

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But, as I don't have the Fillmore Box (though I have the shows,) I will have to archive that bonus disc "Caution".

Just for fun, I did a quick Google Shopping search for the Fillmore box with bonus disc... $1,369.00. I suppose that's fair :) Supposedly, it is still sealed.

In another life, I will make my living by making money for the uber-rich so I myself can become one of the 1%, hopefully hiring others to make me more money in turn. Then, I will drop cash like that on a set of CDs (I know! They ARE worth it!) Also, think I'll buy me a Learjet.

Peace

Edit: Found another one for $1,899.00! That first offer is looking better all the time!

Edit 2: Ok... I need to stop, but a guy on eBay has a sealed 77 Winterland box, with bonus, for $1,599.95 - but it has free shipping. I hope that I'm not pulling any tails, but this is crazy. Who has that kind of coin for Cds? Also, why is the 73 Winterland box so much cheaper? IMO, it's the better of the two Winterland boxes.

Back to only positive vibes (sorry friends, I think I am letting my topsy-turvey stressful week leak on to this wonderfully positive thread...)

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 15:29

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eeeeeeeeee, but I believe that's wadeocu's favorite Terrapin 4/6/82.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 16:39

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Positive/Bad vibes. They WERE good, at least I got a good chuckle when I see those prices. I see the prices for a complete Dick's and I say, thank you, but no thank you. As for who has the coin? Actually for a way to piss money away, it's pretty cheap. Watch those car customizing shows! Some have the money to just piss away, some it maybe the only way they piss it. But can you imagine dropping 2k on a box, then find in a year, you got the rot!!

In the words of Sam the Man -

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed. ”

ps - figured I'd give credit, didn't want to anger the plagiarize god, during our time of plague. :-)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:07

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Happy Shakedown Stream!

Jerry is looking healthy, he’s younger here than I am now.. that’s a trip.

Give it just a minute and it’ll blow away ;)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:42

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....RIP Brent.
Changed my avatar to a new pair of Birkenstocks I got in the mail today. My old pair were like 7 years old, and finally wore out. Any Birks fans out there? Only sandals I've worn for the past twenty years. I swear by them. Bob Weir get it. Smart guy.
Lol. Phil sporting the same dolphin tie-dye I used to own, until I got it caught on a gate and ripped it.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 22:46

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Yes, the 82 Philly show. Need to listen to that one again. I remember being super excited and then....

Other releases that are crazy expensive on the secondary market. Not sure they ever get those crazy high prices. $1599 for Winterland 77.

Otis, remember, you have a friend in me.

Crazy times around the US and my home here in MN.

Haven't had a chance to listen any Dead tonight... Tomorrow!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 03:25

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... listening to 82’ got me thinking about the 80’s Dead, and a favorite year of mine during that era is 1985! A profound time/period in the bands career and musical Style & composition formate for their live performances. I remember readying and seeing how the fans & audience would come to their concert with a lot of energy & grateful vibes radiating oof the crowd & Band , especially 1985! IMO. It was like a ‘religious experience’, it’s really hard to describe in words. Everyone seem to be on the same page and the dead could do no wrong! The band was just firing 100% on all their mystic musical cylinders As a unit & band . I think Bob & Jerry are really great during this year,85’ they both just seem to be on a higher level of cosmic connection with each other. And I also think Brent really added a lot fire to the music. Jerry seemed to really play well and enjoy the inter play between himself & Brent! While weir begins learning how to play slide guitar on the sidelines lol 😆 , just playing around folks! Dicks picks #21 is all this wrapped up & more in this dicks Picks, #21
11/1/85 Richmond VA Another primo pick!
Have a grateful day everyone, rock on!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:31

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I’m alright Jack
Keep your hands off of my stack

Those eBay prices are the “I don’t really want to sell it price”.

If people were willing to pay those prices then the items would have sold already.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:34

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100% right.

First rule of collecting anything,,,, don't tell me what price people are asking, what price are they getting.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:31

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... on 4/6/82.

Ah, this show feels like slippin' into a nice ol' worn-in pair of Birkenstocks. (VGuy, I've been rockin' them since 96 - I always go with the classic style with the backstrap. I even wore a pair of Birks at my wedding - granted, it was on the beach... or did I plan it to be on the beach so I could wear my Birks ;)

@Dennis, IceCream, etc. - yeah, I know those prices are unrealistic, and there are many sillier things to piss your money away on - shit, if I had of saved all of the money I've spent on stupid cigarettes, I could buy the entire GD catalog for eBay prices two or three times over.

@DeadVikes, you're a good man, Charlie Brown! I will holler if anything particular jumps out at me.

CRS>Promised Land - Hell of a nice way to open a show!

The Shakedown Stream was delightful last night! Bobby and his mirror shades! Sad to think that only 10 days later, the world lost Brent. He was a true treasure.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:59

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It’s kinda ironic, I started feeling positive this week about things maybe turning a corner in my immediate surroundings, which I hadn’t been feeling prior. Had a pretty good week, and great Thursday & Friday and was feeling a bit more up than previously. And then I watched the news.. one of the worst weeks in the History of America.

A bright spot for me throughout has been hanging out with you all and listening to some good jams and talking about this band we all love. So thanks for that You ALL!

One Way or Another, This Darkness Has Got To Give.

DEADVIKES - Hope you get to enjoy some good jams today! My heart goes out to you, your city and our nation, we will survive.. I hope!

VGUY - Nice Birks! Shakedown Stream was sweet, watching Brent was sometimes bittersweet. RIP Brentski, them was some good times!

OTIS - Dead Heads are a resourceful lot and you got friends. Whoever is going that other route might have more money than sense. Just saying..

LMG - 1985 RULES!! Always been especially fascinated with that year, and it’s the year the bus came by and I got on. I’m down for 11/1/85 DiP V21! Maybe tomorrow?

And now.. it’s time to set the WABAC for Philly April ’82.

CR&S > Promised opener anyone? (Right There with you OTIS!) Wo-Ho!!!

...hello ‘good Ol Grateful Dead , sounds grateful tomorrow Dicks Picks #21 “1985 - Richmond, Virginia”could be “the pick of the Day! I’m in if it’s okay 🙏
...I missed the Dicks Picks 24 discussion, I’m a big fan of that dicks Picks. As one mentioned it was the first time for “WOS” and it was beyond primo - it was & still is in short, heavenly ! I look forward to rewind back to 24 , dick pick. Ciao’

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 08:40

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...heres a special little treat for all you brothers & sisters out there in this beautiful openWide grande world we all call home!
Have a grateful day everyone! H errs a little gift BB of love for all of you here as well as the ones who have passed on, god bless! 🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 09:37

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Have slacked off listening. Just glad I can participate in this sometimes. Oh Lord these troubled times. And we thought shit was bad 50 years ago. The law may not always be just, but karma is. Please encourage as many people to vote this fall. Because “this darkness has got to give”.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:05

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....Dylan should write a song about it. Pisses me off to no end, but you won't see me torching an AutoZone or a Target over it. Floyd's girlfriend said that he would have been appalled about the reaction and violence over this. He seemed like a cool dude. Those cops? Not so much.
Sorry Deadland, but that was fucked up and I vented here. That video is so sad to watch. So sad.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:49

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Music heals. And we as a people and a nation need all the healing we can get. We learned so much at Grateful Dead concerts about tolerance and acceptance of others and being kind. Keep that spirit strong. We did not go through these experiences for nothing.

Thanks Man. Squeezed in a little Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack bonus tracks early this morning. Been on a 74 bender for this week. Still one of favorite Uncle John's Band.

Yes, this is messed up. So much destruction. Today, they hijacked two ups trucks. Funny, no one here is talking about Covid anymore.

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 15:14

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....or confrontation at a Dead show. Saw a lot of pretty girls though. Saw someone pass a baggie of mushrooms to someone twelve people down, dude ate cap or two, then passed it back. No one in between snuck a snack. Seems like a different age.
I wasn't at Deer Creek '95. Just saying.
Can I go back to 1989 now?

Heavy times for sure...

My phone just blew up with an Alert System warning, I guess we're on curfew tonight and there's some serious rioting going on. (I wasn't going anywhere, there's also a plague, so yeah.. staying home.)

DEADVIKES: Maybe the Portland people were feeling our Solidarity and had to ramp it up?
I jest, it's craziness.. and '74 is a good place to be.

VGUY: It's '82 today not '89 ;)

As The Replacements would say "Anywhere is better than here."

I'm gonna hunker down and venture onward into 1982.. 4/14/82 to be exact. Love some PITB from '82.

I'll leave you with the following lyrics:

Crumbling ground
Tumbling down
Run to the sound
Of a fire in the city

Stay Safe Everybody and Keep Positive!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:37

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Wow, been outside on the patio doing absolutely nothing but 4/5&6/82 and hunting vermin, while the 1 year old Husky Siblings next door rollick and romp. Huge snow capped peaks down valley with low grumpy storm clouds not doing much but grumblin’...but seems like this situation has gotten fluid...
If you get confused indeed! .....think I’m going to hit the tube again, crack an ice cold Sip O Sunshine, and go back out where those chilly winds don’t blow. I’m sure the wonderful world will be there waiting for us on the news Monday. But tomorrow never knows...so scuse me while I eat this fly.

4/5 & 4/6/82 = good stuff!
I might just like the killer filler the best. But I enjoyed It all.
Great Pick!

Made me fire up 4/14/82 which cooks!! Play it

Between 4/1-4/21/82 Jerry played 16 shows, including:
1st solo show since the ‘60s
1st appearance on Letterman
1st duo show w John Kahn

He’s the man!

OB: sittin’ on the porch doin’ nothin’, good call!
Inspiration..

Really enjoyed that today, no time for a review, just really dug most of this one. Picked it up at Real Gone a year or so ago and have always enjoyed it. Same with that DL vol 6 yesterday. Nice cryptical, Potato, Caution etc, but again, no time, “I got, got, got no time”...85 manana...

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:27

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Nice pick. I can't believe I've had this for 9 years and only ever listened to the electric Deep Elem. This is a great show. I even like the Terrapin, which I usually skip over. The 4/5 Playin filler is nice, with Bob's guitar loud and clear for a change. Sound is a little squirrely, but you get used to it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:37

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Almost forgot...great Shakedown stream last night. Never saw that one before. Based only on being there I used to think that the 90 show should have been the trucking up to buffalo release, and though it’s a good show, that 7/4/89 has really grown on me over the years, it’s funny, I knew it was a great show when I was there, but I didn’t realize how awesome it was until later. Now that I’ve seen the 90 video, Im sure I like 89 better, but I still think it’s agood show.
It takes a while to get rolling, and at first as is often could be the case, the sound sucked, but by the end of first everything was hitting on all cylinders! Great time at this show. Hanging with that 21 yr old I’ve mentioned before, along with our old pal Lee Esdee. After many years, hadn’t run into him until Shoreline that year. Good Times!