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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2351
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    Passing the Test

    Isn't the goal here to be lighthearted? I try my best to not let the craziness of the world/media not get to me here? Isn't the goal here to be a kind prankster? They ask, "Are you kind?" Most of the flamers I look like as children, either actual age or not. Many are so deep in social media and issues that result thereof, they cannot see what it is doing to them. They are being handled, manipulated, and unwittingly abused by the profiteers. I try to stay away.

    Jim, had no idea of the McIntosh amp issues. Thanks for that piece of info. As much as I love the music, it is just how they were. So real and fun which someone wrote, "creating their own iconography." The richness of their traditions and internal musical dialog that we love is an unending source of comfort as they lived it everyday for 30 years. I wish I had a shot at hearing even 50% of their music, but as I have written before, my OCD makes me wear out a great jam over and over instead of looking for the next one. Need to work on that for sure.

    So Jim and Oro and many others, thanks for passing the test.

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    You are kind soul.. I appreciate all you provide here. Same goes to Oro. I think it would take a face to face to catch me up on all the technology (old or new) that the two of you bring for me to truly understand. As for old.. and I am sure you both know.. in either late 73 or early 74 (I think 73).. the GD got into a scuffle with DOD over equipment they were ordering that was desperately needed for national security. Apparently, the Macintosh amps they were buying in unprecedented numbers were needed both in general and more specifically by special, top secret subs that needed the clean sound and amplification to either detect enemy interference or better hear and make stealth the noise they were making. So they called the GD and tried to work out a way to either stall, postpone or barter a purchasing arrangement that would not jeopardize national security.

    I think this is well known, and I apologize in advance for going on memory and surely confusing some of the information listed above as fact. ..but what is written is pretty close, if someone can clarify and correct it would not offend me in the least.

    Hope I didn't write anything that was incorrect or in any way interpreted as insulting or offensive.

    As for chainsaws and sawzaws to clear way for our living room WOS.. what could possibly be more fun.

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    Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

    All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

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    Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

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    Do you have any '74 Dijon?

    Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

    I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..

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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

    G

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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    I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

    I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

    Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

    Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

    Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

    Ok enough for now.

    G

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:23

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This "Morning Dew" is beyond special and is one of the most moving musical passages ever recorded, IMO. Listen carefully and absorb every note. Guaranteed to fill your soul and make every aspect of your life better. **

**Nothing in Bolo's statements to reader will be construed as a promise of guarantee about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes on which Bolo advises reader. Bolo makes no such promises or guarantees. Bolo's comments about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes are expressions of opinion only.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:39

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....it happens with this band. Like. A lot. I'll sign that affidavit.
Some shows are a complete moving passage. Just gotta poke around.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:42

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PITB & Set 2 does it Every Time! = Magic

And What Bolo said.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 20:53

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An unbelievable show and great release. Can't believe they got this on multi-track.

Agree with all the thoughtful comments made on this show.

Oroborous.. I will be sure to finish reading your post with my morning coffee. Glanced it over it and started cracking up.. I think I want to save it for a caffeinated me.

The whole show is just a gem. So, I remember the first time I heard this show from the official release from 2007 and thought Wow, unreal. Too many highlights. Probably my favorite Round and Round, yes the faster Eyes, Good Lovin, Samson, Scarlet. This show was mixed by Norman but not mastered. Plangent, yes. Interesting to me. I have given this show to many people as an example of just how good these guys were.

Tomorrow, how about the Cow Palace show from 3/23/74? Dick's 24. First Wall of Sound show. Yes, it is not the full show.

Thanks a bunch folks.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 22:20

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....is the best New Years.
Y'all better fire up that Deere Jim. Vroom, vroom. Where we're going, we don't need bad vibes.
I member what I was doing 12.31.76. Playing with a Star Trek playset. I loved that thing.
Oblivious....🙄
Five months later, Star Wars came along. 1977 kicks ass.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 23:27

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Now you’re talking VGUY
Got a Mego Star Trek Enterprise and the crew for my Birthday in ‘76. The transporter was cool!

First NYE show since ‘72 and I think you’re right about it being the best.

Love The 70s!

Don’t remember what I was doing in March of ‘74..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 03:09

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Nice legal disclaimer from Bolo24, Esquire. What a way to start the day.

Reminds me of Mickey's comment, "I'm actually in the transportation business."

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 06:02

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...all primo picks from everyone’s Choice/ Dicks picks and now Dave’s picks ; top 3 in a row, Wow, that’s really hard, that’s like trying to pick your favorite strain of marijuana! (Medical of course) ;)

...here I go , my three Dave’s Picks is #’s 4,5 & 6
Or, #’s 10,11 & 12
...Here’s my Dicks Picks. #’s 2,3,4,5 or #’s 19,20,21,22 I can’t forget #’s 36, 35, 34 & 33..and then..lol ha ha, this is really hard.
I also believe your “attitude” for the day! , can effect this whole process in picking favorites ;)
Have a grateful day everyone be kind be safe peace be with you all, God bless, The Grateful Dead& all of you Dead heads out there in dead land! 🙏❤️💀🌹
..oh yeah, my pick of the day is Dicks Picks #31
* 8/4-5/74 ‘Philadelphia Civic Center’, Philadelphia PA
Along with * 8/6/74 ‘Roosevelt stadium’ jersey city NJ
** a couple of primo performances right after celebrating Jerry Garcia’s Birthday!!! Love this pick!
*** this Picks has “2’ Wicked’ performances of “Playing in The Band” both are just beautifully playing from the whole Band IMO... Rock on!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:42

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Marvey! I’m in, just as soon as I hit some 12/31/76 highlights again, just because...

Hey, what happened to Four Winds Blow? Hopefully just busy...He was a plaaayer, and watching he and GOGD was like a tennis match 😃

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:47

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I concur with your take on Spring '90 with one minor tweak and a small addition.

The tweak, ..if you are in the right mood.. that Branford Eyes is effortless and sublime. The add, that Mind Left Body is amazing. In fact second set pre-drums is a spectacularly amazing mindphuck. That second set cooks.

They should have released this as a whole show, what were they thinking???

Where were we, what were we talking about again?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 09:54

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12/31/76, I had a job hanging sheetrock at the time and I was so beat after work I just went home and was in bed by 9pm. I thought about going, you could still get tickets the day of the show, my brother and friends went. 3/23/74, Weir says " no you don't" durring Beat it on down the Line, some guy jumped up on stage and tried to grab Donna. A guy also jumped up on stage and handed Garcia a joint, Garcia took a sniff then took a hit and handed it to someone back stage. Weir said you can really tell who got their tickets over the radio, they were giving free tickets out over the radio. Bolo, were you in the audience that day? I definitely missed some good ones along the way.

We're just messing with you VGuy. If you've seen the Truman Show, well.. I don't want to give away the season finale..

Thanks for being a good sport though. If it helps.. the temperature is going to break tomorrow and you will be in a sailboat by the weekend.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 19:26

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2 days spent at the Cow Palace, sounds like the band liked playing there.

Any Cow Palace stories out there?

Release sounds real good, 10 songs not on release. 4 from Set 1, 4 from Set 2 and double encore.

Missing:
Mexicali, Tennessee Jed, IMHBTR, El Paso, Ship of Fools, Ramble On Rose, MAMU, Around, Casey Jones, OMSN

Comparing the two, release is mighty nice, SBD sounds good, but def noticeable quality difference, in favor of the release, Uh duh.

The final Palindrome. We’ve heard the first & now the last.. might be time for the middle.

This one is heavy, goes far into Playing and then at just the right time spins out a great UJB and then epic Morning Dew (maybe not as good as yesterday’s from 12/31/76 but that’s for you to decide) back into a long and very wonderful UJB jam and lands to dust off the PITB reprise. Loved it

Honorable mention to great late set Bertha!! Jerry is having fun with this one... Lord!

Haven’t been to the 60’s in awhile, ‘68 sounds good to me, what about 3/17/68 Download Series V6? .

Start with set 2 TIFTOO and TOYLL is extra credit (only song that survives from Set 1 they say due to Anthem experiments 🧫)

It’s Friday after all.

This wonderful release, Dick's 24, gave us a glimpse into the greatness of the Wall of Sound recordings in the Vault. Fun to hear the fist live Cassidy.

So interesting to hear them completely restart Playing in the Band, and I am sure glad they did.

68 for tomorrow!

Be well folks.

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Hi-Ya, Hi Ya, Hi Ya Kids!!

Let's dig back in those stacks and pull out some Primal Dead for the POTD

Kick it off with the entire Set 2 from 3/17/68 Download Series V6 released in 2005. (Don't believe it circulated prior to this release?)

Follow that up with Turn On Your Lovelight from Set 1 (Track 1) the only surviving track from that set due to Anthem of the Sun experiments.. as the story goes.

Extra credit:
So Many Roads Disc 1 - Track 8 = Dark Star > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven from 3/16/68

Fun Fact: China Cat would go away for awhile after the March '68 shows and wouldn't come back until April '69

Enjoy and Happy Friday!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 14:14

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May I throw in my suggestion for Road Trips 4.4 - 4/06/82 Philly Spectrum for Saturday? It has been a long time since I've listened, and I need a little ragged-but-right Jerry right now to fit my current mood.

The primal today was fun, but I was so busy, I could only check in a little here and there. Now that night is falling, I might just have to get a little twisted and play it louder than I should.

Peace

OTIS: Do it again, now that you’re right;)

Throw in 6/14/68 Caution from Fillmore Box Bonus Disc & Anthem Of The Sun original mix from 50th Anniversary release and you’ll be stoked.

‘82 sounds good to me!

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But, as I don't have the Fillmore Box (though I have the shows,) I will have to archive that bonus disc "Caution".

Just for fun, I did a quick Google Shopping search for the Fillmore box with bonus disc... $1,369.00. I suppose that's fair :) Supposedly, it is still sealed.

In another life, I will make my living by making money for the uber-rich so I myself can become one of the 1%, hopefully hiring others to make me more money in turn. Then, I will drop cash like that on a set of CDs (I know! They ARE worth it!) Also, think I'll buy me a Learjet.

Peace

Edit: Found another one for $1,899.00! That first offer is looking better all the time!

Edit 2: Ok... I need to stop, but a guy on eBay has a sealed 77 Winterland box, with bonus, for $1,599.95 - but it has free shipping. I hope that I'm not pulling any tails, but this is crazy. Who has that kind of coin for Cds? Also, why is the 73 Winterland box so much cheaper? IMO, it's the better of the two Winterland boxes.

Back to only positive vibes (sorry friends, I think I am letting my topsy-turvey stressful week leak on to this wonderfully positive thread...)

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 15:29

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eeeeeeeeee, but I believe that's wadeocu's favorite Terrapin 4/6/82.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 16:39

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Positive/Bad vibes. They WERE good, at least I got a good chuckle when I see those prices. I see the prices for a complete Dick's and I say, thank you, but no thank you. As for who has the coin? Actually for a way to piss money away, it's pretty cheap. Watch those car customizing shows! Some have the money to just piss away, some it maybe the only way they piss it. But can you imagine dropping 2k on a box, then find in a year, you got the rot!!

In the words of Sam the Man -

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed. ”

ps - figured I'd give credit, didn't want to anger the plagiarize god, during our time of plague. :-)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:07

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Happy Shakedown Stream!

Jerry is looking healthy, he’s younger here than I am now.. that’s a trip.

Give it just a minute and it’ll blow away ;)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:42

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....RIP Brent.
Changed my avatar to a new pair of Birkenstocks I got in the mail today. My old pair were like 7 years old, and finally wore out. Any Birks fans out there? Only sandals I've worn for the past twenty years. I swear by them. Bob Weir get it. Smart guy.
Lol. Phil sporting the same dolphin tie-dye I used to own, until I got it caught on a gate and ripped it.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 22:46

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Yes, the 82 Philly show. Need to listen to that one again. I remember being super excited and then....

Other releases that are crazy expensive on the secondary market. Not sure they ever get those crazy high prices. $1599 for Winterland 77.

Otis, remember, you have a friend in me.

Crazy times around the US and my home here in MN.

Haven't had a chance to listen any Dead tonight... Tomorrow!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 03:25

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... listening to 82’ got me thinking about the 80’s Dead, and a favorite year of mine during that era is 1985! A profound time/period in the bands career and musical Style & composition formate for their live performances. I remember readying and seeing how the fans & audience would come to their concert with a lot of energy & grateful vibes radiating oof the crowd & Band , especially 1985! IMO. It was like a ‘religious experience’, it’s really hard to describe in words. Everyone seem to be on the same page and the dead could do no wrong! The band was just firing 100% on all their mystic musical cylinders As a unit & band . I think Bob & Jerry are really great during this year,85’ they both just seem to be on a higher level of cosmic connection with each other. And I also think Brent really added a lot fire to the music. Jerry seemed to really play well and enjoy the inter play between himself & Brent! While weir begins learning how to play slide guitar on the sidelines lol 😆 , just playing around folks! Dicks picks #21 is all this wrapped up & more in this dicks Picks, #21
11/1/85 Richmond VA Another primo pick!
Have a grateful day everyone, rock on!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:31

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I’m alright Jack
Keep your hands off of my stack

Those eBay prices are the “I don’t really want to sell it price”.

If people were willing to pay those prices then the items would have sold already.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:34

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100% right.

First rule of collecting anything,,,, don't tell me what price people are asking, what price are they getting.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:31

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... on 4/6/82.

Ah, this show feels like slippin' into a nice ol' worn-in pair of Birkenstocks. (VGuy, I've been rockin' them since 96 - I always go with the classic style with the backstrap. I even wore a pair of Birks at my wedding - granted, it was on the beach... or did I plan it to be on the beach so I could wear my Birks ;)

@Dennis, IceCream, etc. - yeah, I know those prices are unrealistic, and there are many sillier things to piss your money away on - shit, if I had of saved all of the money I've spent on stupid cigarettes, I could buy the entire GD catalog for eBay prices two or three times over.

@DeadVikes, you're a good man, Charlie Brown! I will holler if anything particular jumps out at me.

CRS>Promised Land - Hell of a nice way to open a show!

The Shakedown Stream was delightful last night! Bobby and his mirror shades! Sad to think that only 10 days later, the world lost Brent. He was a true treasure.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:59

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It’s kinda ironic, I started feeling positive this week about things maybe turning a corner in my immediate surroundings, which I hadn’t been feeling prior. Had a pretty good week, and great Thursday & Friday and was feeling a bit more up than previously. And then I watched the news.. one of the worst weeks in the History of America.

A bright spot for me throughout has been hanging out with you all and listening to some good jams and talking about this band we all love. So thanks for that You ALL!

One Way or Another, This Darkness Has Got To Give.

DEADVIKES - Hope you get to enjoy some good jams today! My heart goes out to you, your city and our nation, we will survive.. I hope!

VGUY - Nice Birks! Shakedown Stream was sweet, watching Brent was sometimes bittersweet. RIP Brentski, them was some good times!

OTIS - Dead Heads are a resourceful lot and you got friends. Whoever is going that other route might have more money than sense. Just saying..

LMG - 1985 RULES!! Always been especially fascinated with that year, and it’s the year the bus came by and I got on. I’m down for 11/1/85 DiP V21! Maybe tomorrow?

And now.. it’s time to set the WABAC for Philly April ’82.

CR&S > Promised opener anyone? (Right There with you OTIS!) Wo-Ho!!!

...hello ‘good Ol Grateful Dead , sounds grateful tomorrow Dicks Picks #21 “1985 - Richmond, Virginia”could be “the pick of the Day! I’m in if it’s okay 🙏
...I missed the Dicks Picks 24 discussion, I’m a big fan of that dicks Picks. As one mentioned it was the first time for “WOS” and it was beyond primo - it was & still is in short, heavenly ! I look forward to rewind back to 24 , dick pick. Ciao’

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 08:40

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...heres a special little treat for all you brothers & sisters out there in this beautiful openWide grande world we all call home!
Have a grateful day everyone! H errs a little gift BB of love for all of you here as well as the ones who have passed on, god bless! 🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 09:37

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Have slacked off listening. Just glad I can participate in this sometimes. Oh Lord these troubled times. And we thought shit was bad 50 years ago. The law may not always be just, but karma is. Please encourage as many people to vote this fall. Because “this darkness has got to give”.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:05

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....Dylan should write a song about it. Pisses me off to no end, but you won't see me torching an AutoZone or a Target over it. Floyd's girlfriend said that he would have been appalled about the reaction and violence over this. He seemed like a cool dude. Those cops? Not so much.
Sorry Deadland, but that was fucked up and I vented here. That video is so sad to watch. So sad.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:49

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Music heals. And we as a people and a nation need all the healing we can get. We learned so much at Grateful Dead concerts about tolerance and acceptance of others and being kind. Keep that spirit strong. We did not go through these experiences for nothing.

Thanks Man. Squeezed in a little Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack bonus tracks early this morning. Been on a 74 bender for this week. Still one of favorite Uncle John's Band.

Yes, this is messed up. So much destruction. Today, they hijacked two ups trucks. Funny, no one here is talking about Covid anymore.

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 15:14

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....or confrontation at a Dead show. Saw a lot of pretty girls though. Saw someone pass a baggie of mushrooms to someone twelve people down, dude ate cap or two, then passed it back. No one in between snuck a snack. Seems like a different age.
I wasn't at Deer Creek '95. Just saying.
Can I go back to 1989 now?

Heavy times for sure...

My phone just blew up with an Alert System warning, I guess we're on curfew tonight and there's some serious rioting going on. (I wasn't going anywhere, there's also a plague, so yeah.. staying home.)

DEADVIKES: Maybe the Portland people were feeling our Solidarity and had to ramp it up?
I jest, it's craziness.. and '74 is a good place to be.

VGUY: It's '82 today not '89 ;)

As The Replacements would say "Anywhere is better than here."

I'm gonna hunker down and venture onward into 1982.. 4/14/82 to be exact. Love some PITB from '82.

I'll leave you with the following lyrics:

Crumbling ground
Tumbling down
Run to the sound
Of a fire in the city

Stay Safe Everybody and Keep Positive!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:37

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Wow, been outside on the patio doing absolutely nothing but 4/5&6/82 and hunting vermin, while the 1 year old Husky Siblings next door rollick and romp. Huge snow capped peaks down valley with low grumpy storm clouds not doing much but grumblin’...but seems like this situation has gotten fluid...
If you get confused indeed! .....think I’m going to hit the tube again, crack an ice cold Sip O Sunshine, and go back out where those chilly winds don’t blow. I’m sure the wonderful world will be there waiting for us on the news Monday. But tomorrow never knows...so scuse me while I eat this fly.

4/5 & 4/6/82 = good stuff!
I might just like the killer filler the best. But I enjoyed It all.
Great Pick!

Made me fire up 4/14/82 which cooks!! Play it

Between 4/1-4/21/82 Jerry played 16 shows, including:
1st solo show since the ‘60s
1st appearance on Letterman
1st duo show w John Kahn

He’s the man!

OB: sittin’ on the porch doin’ nothin’, good call!
Inspiration..

Really enjoyed that today, no time for a review, just really dug most of this one. Picked it up at Real Gone a year or so ago and have always enjoyed it. Same with that DL vol 6 yesterday. Nice cryptical, Potato, Caution etc, but again, no time, “I got, got, got no time”...85 manana...

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:27

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Nice pick. I can't believe I've had this for 9 years and only ever listened to the electric Deep Elem. This is a great show. I even like the Terrapin, which I usually skip over. The 4/5 Playin filler is nice, with Bob's guitar loud and clear for a change. Sound is a little squirrely, but you get used to it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:37

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Almost forgot...great Shakedown stream last night. Never saw that one before. Based only on being there I used to think that the 90 show should have been the trucking up to buffalo release, and though it’s a good show, that 7/4/89 has really grown on me over the years, it’s funny, I knew it was a great show when I was there, but I didn’t realize how awesome it was until later. Now that I’ve seen the 90 video, Im sure I like 89 better, but I still think it’s agood show.
It takes a while to get rolling, and at first as is often could be the case, the sound sucked, but by the end of first everything was hitting on all cylinders! Great time at this show. Hanging with that 21 yr old I’ve mentioned before, along with our old pal Lee Esdee. After many years, hadn’t run into him until Shoreline that year. Good Times!