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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    PT 4/7/88 is awesome!

    Since this has unfortunately become “today in GD history” and I’ve heard those shows a million times, I checked out the actual, existing site that does that already, and 4/7/88 was their pick (with some noise about best show of tour?).
    Well it was an awesome show, but best of tour….I think not.
    Definitely a need to listen for those whose ears can hear past 72…

    I Really enjoyed those FLA 91s when we did them.

    Edit: 9/3/88 went with Healy/Pearson. Thought it sounded great except for a few times it got a tad hot?

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    Tried to give this one a go yesterday and wasn't able to find a real good source, which is a bummer.

    Hit 4/7/72, not too long ago, fantastic start to an unbelievable tour and how fortunate we are they recorded the whole tour in multi track.

    You doing the whole tour this year Doc?

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    sure was a great date in Dead history, E72, that great run in Orlando in 91, the only stadium show of the 95 spring tour, all great shows, anybody else got any 4-7 or 8 for that matter great shows from other years? Digging 4-7-91 now, a great Ruben in there and that Crazy Fingers to open the 2nd set. So good, I was lucky enough to attend all three of those shows in Orlando that year and also the show in 95 with that exceptional Visions and the really cool Unbroken Chain.

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    Glastonbury Fayre Triple Album

    It wasn't actually a bootleg when it first came out. It was a lavish limited edition set put out by the organisers to defray some of the costs of putting the festival on. I was lucky enough to buy one of the original copies when it came out - and stupid enough to sell it about 10 years later. It was like a trip to another planet for me in 1973 - the overall freak vibe of the presentation and the music. Gong and the Pink Fairies were the highlights for me at the time. That side by Gong still sounds deranged.
    But all the artists on the album donated their music free of charge as far as I am aware.

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    Pop music is aspirin and the blues are vitamins......

    Mornin', rockers!!!

    Let's continue our stroll through the past, daily double style...............

    April 8, 1971 Boston Music Hall
    Solid and crunchy counterpoint to the previous night, maybe a bit jammier? Or was it jellier? The first Second That Emotion, a rare April 71 Star, and a hot Good Lovin' to close the show. Absolutely worth a listen!

    April 8, 1972 Empire Poll, London
    We had a portion of this absolutely amazing Dark Star on the Glastonbury Fayre bootleg LP decades ago, we cherished it. Fine example of how the music would truly sometimes play the band. And a Cumberland Blues that even JimInMD could love. In fact, it's my favorite version ever!!

    You'll excuse me while I check out and take a deep dip into that Dark Star...........

    Music should always be an adventure......

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself, incredible and inconceivable..........

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    Europe 72 - greatest tour ever?

    Yup, I would agree with that. The trouble is, once you realise this, how do you keep your pecker up for the shows that followed ? Best not to try - just buy the E72 shows again on vinyl.

    I bought this one, 4/7/72, a few weeks ago in this format. I wasn't sure whether to or not ...surely the Newcastle show a few days later, also featuring a Truckin-Drums Other one jam would have been a better release. No..I'm glad I did...it's a great show in its own right. The second set is the one to write home about, but for me, first sets on this tour were also the best they played with Keith in the line up. Partly because with Pigpen still hanging on in there, they had a blues/soul connection, which varied the repertoire. Sadly, when he went, he took it with him. 1973 first sets, by comparison, seem really, really long without this variety.
    And hopefully the Newcastle show will also come out on vinyl in the fullness of time.

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    Visions. I always liked that rendition even more than the one on Fallout. 2nd set opening Eyes and I think there's an Unbroken Chain in there, too... :-) :-) :-)

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    Too many daily doubles...............

    Hey rockers, here we go again!!

    April 7 1971, Boston Music Hall
    Crispy. Great venue. Greasy. One of the most painful tape cuts in 1971. Always worth a listen.....

    April 7 1972, Empire Pool, London
    Kick off the greatest tour ever. Super solid show. And it gets better from here.......

    Day off, too much free time................

    What I really have in my head, my imagination, my understanding of music, I never really get that out......

    Rock on!

    Doc
    There are only two things worth aiming for, good music and a clean conscience........

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    Yes, three years! Good work. What a run. Thanks for the reminder Bluecrow. Revisited #42 again a couple weeks ago and yes, fantastic release. I think it took them a couple of songs to get the audio tuned in and it took off after that.

    Where is that Bolo?

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    Thanks Bolo!!

    Was out working in the wilds of the southwest past week with little time for listening up until last night. A lot of fine shows to choose from on this date. Was listening to 4/6/71, Definitely need to hit the whole Avalon '69 run.

    Oh and ConeKids first show was at the Crisler 4/6/89. On the list.

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This "Morning Dew" is beyond special and is one of the most moving musical passages ever recorded, IMO. Listen carefully and absorb every note. Guaranteed to fill your soul and make every aspect of your life better. **

**Nothing in Bolo's statements to reader will be construed as a promise of guarantee about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes on which Bolo advises reader. Bolo makes no such promises or guarantees. Bolo's comments about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes are expressions of opinion only.

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....it happens with this band. Like. A lot. I'll sign that affidavit.
Some shows are a complete moving passage. Just gotta poke around.

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PITB & Set 2 does it Every Time! = Magic

And What Bolo said.

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An unbelievable show and great release. Can't believe they got this on multi-track.

Agree with all the thoughtful comments made on this show.

Oroborous.. I will be sure to finish reading your post with my morning coffee. Glanced it over it and started cracking up.. I think I want to save it for a caffeinated me.

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The whole show is just a gem. So, I remember the first time I heard this show from the official release from 2007 and thought Wow, unreal. Too many highlights. Probably my favorite Round and Round, yes the faster Eyes, Good Lovin, Samson, Scarlet. This show was mixed by Norman but not mastered. Plangent, yes. Interesting to me. I have given this show to many people as an example of just how good these guys were.

Tomorrow, how about the Cow Palace show from 3/23/74? Dick's 24. First Wall of Sound show. Yes, it is not the full show.

Thanks a bunch folks.

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....is the best New Years.
Y'all better fire up that Deere Jim. Vroom, vroom. Where we're going, we don't need bad vibes.
I member what I was doing 12.31.76. Playing with a Star Trek playset. I loved that thing.
Oblivious....🙄
Five months later, Star Wars came along. 1977 kicks ass.

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Now you’re talking VGUY
Got a Mego Star Trek Enterprise and the crew for my Birthday in ‘76. The transporter was cool!

First NYE show since ‘72 and I think you’re right about it being the best.

Love The 70s!

Don’t remember what I was doing in March of ‘74..

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Nice legal disclaimer from Bolo24, Esquire. What a way to start the day.

Reminds me of Mickey's comment, "I'm actually in the transportation business."

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...all primo picks from everyone’s Choice/ Dicks picks and now Dave’s picks ; top 3 in a row, Wow, that’s really hard, that’s like trying to pick your favorite strain of marijuana! (Medical of course) ;)

...here I go , my three Dave’s Picks is #’s 4,5 & 6
Or, #’s 10,11 & 12
...Here’s my Dicks Picks. #’s 2,3,4,5 or #’s 19,20,21,22 I can’t forget #’s 36, 35, 34 & 33..and then..lol ha ha, this is really hard.
I also believe your “attitude” for the day! , can effect this whole process in picking favorites ;)
Have a grateful day everyone be kind be safe peace be with you all, God bless, The Grateful Dead& all of you Dead heads out there in dead land! 🙏❤️💀🌹
..oh yeah, my pick of the day is Dicks Picks #31
* 8/4-5/74 ‘Philadelphia Civic Center’, Philadelphia PA
Along with * 8/6/74 ‘Roosevelt stadium’ jersey city NJ
** a couple of primo performances right after celebrating Jerry Garcia’s Birthday!!! Love this pick!
*** this Picks has “2’ Wicked’ performances of “Playing in The Band” both are just beautifully playing from the whole Band IMO... Rock on!

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Marvey! I’m in, just as soon as I hit some 12/31/76 highlights again, just because...

Hey, what happened to Four Winds Blow? Hopefully just busy...He was a plaaayer, and watching he and GOGD was like a tennis match 😃

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I concur with your take on Spring '90 with one minor tweak and a small addition.

The tweak, ..if you are in the right mood.. that Branford Eyes is effortless and sublime. The add, that Mind Left Body is amazing. In fact second set pre-drums is a spectacularly amazing mindphuck. That second set cooks.

They should have released this as a whole show, what were they thinking???

Where were we, what were we talking about again?

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12/31/76, I had a job hanging sheetrock at the time and I was so beat after work I just went home and was in bed by 9pm. I thought about going, you could still get tickets the day of the show, my brother and friends went. 3/23/74, Weir says " no you don't" durring Beat it on down the Line, some guy jumped up on stage and tried to grab Donna. A guy also jumped up on stage and handed Garcia a joint, Garcia took a sniff then took a hit and handed it to someone back stage. Weir said you can really tell who got their tickets over the radio, they were giving free tickets out over the radio. Bolo, were you in the audience that day? I definitely missed some good ones along the way.

We're just messing with you VGuy. If you've seen the Truman Show, well.. I don't want to give away the season finale..

Thanks for being a good sport though. If it helps.. the temperature is going to break tomorrow and you will be in a sailboat by the weekend.

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2 days spent at the Cow Palace, sounds like the band liked playing there.

Any Cow Palace stories out there?

Release sounds real good, 10 songs not on release. 4 from Set 1, 4 from Set 2 and double encore.

Missing:
Mexicali, Tennessee Jed, IMHBTR, El Paso, Ship of Fools, Ramble On Rose, MAMU, Around, Casey Jones, OMSN

Comparing the two, release is mighty nice, SBD sounds good, but def noticeable quality difference, in favor of the release, Uh duh.

The final Palindrome. We’ve heard the first & now the last.. might be time for the middle.

This one is heavy, goes far into Playing and then at just the right time spins out a great UJB and then epic Morning Dew (maybe not as good as yesterday’s from 12/31/76 but that’s for you to decide) back into a long and very wonderful UJB jam and lands to dust off the PITB reprise. Loved it

Honorable mention to great late set Bertha!! Jerry is having fun with this one... Lord!

Haven’t been to the 60’s in awhile, ‘68 sounds good to me, what about 3/17/68 Download Series V6? .

Start with set 2 TIFTOO and TOYLL is extra credit (only song that survives from Set 1 they say due to Anthem experiments 🧫)

It’s Friday after all.

This wonderful release, Dick's 24, gave us a glimpse into the greatness of the Wall of Sound recordings in the Vault. Fun to hear the fist live Cassidy.

So interesting to hear them completely restart Playing in the Band, and I am sure glad they did.

68 for tomorrow!

Be well folks.

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Hi-Ya, Hi Ya, Hi Ya Kids!!

Let's dig back in those stacks and pull out some Primal Dead for the POTD

Kick it off with the entire Set 2 from 3/17/68 Download Series V6 released in 2005. (Don't believe it circulated prior to this release?)

Follow that up with Turn On Your Lovelight from Set 1 (Track 1) the only surviving track from that set due to Anthem of the Sun experiments.. as the story goes.

Extra credit:
So Many Roads Disc 1 - Track 8 = Dark Star > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven from 3/16/68

Fun Fact: China Cat would go away for awhile after the March '68 shows and wouldn't come back until April '69

Enjoy and Happy Friday!

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May I throw in my suggestion for Road Trips 4.4 - 4/06/82 Philly Spectrum for Saturday? It has been a long time since I've listened, and I need a little ragged-but-right Jerry right now to fit my current mood.

The primal today was fun, but I was so busy, I could only check in a little here and there. Now that night is falling, I might just have to get a little twisted and play it louder than I should.

Peace

OTIS: Do it again, now that you’re right;)

Throw in 6/14/68 Caution from Fillmore Box Bonus Disc & Anthem Of The Sun original mix from 50th Anniversary release and you’ll be stoked.

‘82 sounds good to me!

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But, as I don't have the Fillmore Box (though I have the shows,) I will have to archive that bonus disc "Caution".

Just for fun, I did a quick Google Shopping search for the Fillmore box with bonus disc... $1,369.00. I suppose that's fair :) Supposedly, it is still sealed.

In another life, I will make my living by making money for the uber-rich so I myself can become one of the 1%, hopefully hiring others to make me more money in turn. Then, I will drop cash like that on a set of CDs (I know! They ARE worth it!) Also, think I'll buy me a Learjet.

Peace

Edit: Found another one for $1,899.00! That first offer is looking better all the time!

Edit 2: Ok... I need to stop, but a guy on eBay has a sealed 77 Winterland box, with bonus, for $1,599.95 - but it has free shipping. I hope that I'm not pulling any tails, but this is crazy. Who has that kind of coin for Cds? Also, why is the 73 Winterland box so much cheaper? IMO, it's the better of the two Winterland boxes.

Back to only positive vibes (sorry friends, I think I am letting my topsy-turvey stressful week leak on to this wonderfully positive thread...)

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eeeeeeeeee, but I believe that's wadeocu's favorite Terrapin 4/6/82.

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Positive/Bad vibes. They WERE good, at least I got a good chuckle when I see those prices. I see the prices for a complete Dick's and I say, thank you, but no thank you. As for who has the coin? Actually for a way to piss money away, it's pretty cheap. Watch those car customizing shows! Some have the money to just piss away, some it maybe the only way they piss it. But can you imagine dropping 2k on a box, then find in a year, you got the rot!!

In the words of Sam the Man -

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed. ”

ps - figured I'd give credit, didn't want to anger the plagiarize god, during our time of plague. :-)

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Happy Shakedown Stream!

Jerry is looking healthy, he’s younger here than I am now.. that’s a trip.

Give it just a minute and it’ll blow away ;)

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....RIP Brent.
Changed my avatar to a new pair of Birkenstocks I got in the mail today. My old pair were like 7 years old, and finally wore out. Any Birks fans out there? Only sandals I've worn for the past twenty years. I swear by them. Bob Weir get it. Smart guy.
Lol. Phil sporting the same dolphin tie-dye I used to own, until I got it caught on a gate and ripped it.

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Yes, the 82 Philly show. Need to listen to that one again. I remember being super excited and then....

Other releases that are crazy expensive on the secondary market. Not sure they ever get those crazy high prices. $1599 for Winterland 77.

Otis, remember, you have a friend in me.

Crazy times around the US and my home here in MN.

Haven't had a chance to listen any Dead tonight... Tomorrow!

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... listening to 82’ got me thinking about the 80’s Dead, and a favorite year of mine during that era is 1985! A profound time/period in the bands career and musical Style & composition formate for their live performances. I remember readying and seeing how the fans & audience would come to their concert with a lot of energy & grateful vibes radiating oof the crowd & Band , especially 1985! IMO. It was like a ‘religious experience’, it’s really hard to describe in words. Everyone seem to be on the same page and the dead could do no wrong! The band was just firing 100% on all their mystic musical cylinders As a unit & band . I think Bob & Jerry are really great during this year,85’ they both just seem to be on a higher level of cosmic connection with each other. And I also think Brent really added a lot fire to the music. Jerry seemed to really play well and enjoy the inter play between himself & Brent! While weir begins learning how to play slide guitar on the sidelines lol 😆 , just playing around folks! Dicks picks #21 is all this wrapped up & more in this dicks Picks, #21
11/1/85 Richmond VA Another primo pick!
Have a grateful day everyone, rock on!

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I’m alright Jack
Keep your hands off of my stack

Those eBay prices are the “I don’t really want to sell it price”.

If people were willing to pay those prices then the items would have sold already.

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100% right.

First rule of collecting anything,,,, don't tell me what price people are asking, what price are they getting.

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... on 4/6/82.

Ah, this show feels like slippin' into a nice ol' worn-in pair of Birkenstocks. (VGuy, I've been rockin' them since 96 - I always go with the classic style with the backstrap. I even wore a pair of Birks at my wedding - granted, it was on the beach... or did I plan it to be on the beach so I could wear my Birks ;)

@Dennis, IceCream, etc. - yeah, I know those prices are unrealistic, and there are many sillier things to piss your money away on - shit, if I had of saved all of the money I've spent on stupid cigarettes, I could buy the entire GD catalog for eBay prices two or three times over.

@DeadVikes, you're a good man, Charlie Brown! I will holler if anything particular jumps out at me.

CRS>Promised Land - Hell of a nice way to open a show!

The Shakedown Stream was delightful last night! Bobby and his mirror shades! Sad to think that only 10 days later, the world lost Brent. He was a true treasure.

Peace

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It’s kinda ironic, I started feeling positive this week about things maybe turning a corner in my immediate surroundings, which I hadn’t been feeling prior. Had a pretty good week, and great Thursday & Friday and was feeling a bit more up than previously. And then I watched the news.. one of the worst weeks in the History of America.

A bright spot for me throughout has been hanging out with you all and listening to some good jams and talking about this band we all love. So thanks for that You ALL!

One Way or Another, This Darkness Has Got To Give.

DEADVIKES - Hope you get to enjoy some good jams today! My heart goes out to you, your city and our nation, we will survive.. I hope!

VGUY - Nice Birks! Shakedown Stream was sweet, watching Brent was sometimes bittersweet. RIP Brentski, them was some good times!

OTIS - Dead Heads are a resourceful lot and you got friends. Whoever is going that other route might have more money than sense. Just saying..

LMG - 1985 RULES!! Always been especially fascinated with that year, and it’s the year the bus came by and I got on. I’m down for 11/1/85 DiP V21! Maybe tomorrow?

And now.. it’s time to set the WABAC for Philly April ’82.

CR&S > Promised opener anyone? (Right There with you OTIS!) Wo-Ho!!!

...hello ‘good Ol Grateful Dead , sounds grateful tomorrow Dicks Picks #21 “1985 - Richmond, Virginia”could be “the pick of the Day! I’m in if it’s okay 🙏
...I missed the Dicks Picks 24 discussion, I’m a big fan of that dicks Picks. As one mentioned it was the first time for “WOS” and it was beyond primo - it was & still is in short, heavenly ! I look forward to rewind back to 24 , dick pick. Ciao’

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...heres a special little treat for all you brothers & sisters out there in this beautiful openWide grande world we all call home!
Have a grateful day everyone! H errs a little gift BB of love for all of you here as well as the ones who have passed on, god bless! 🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

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Have slacked off listening. Just glad I can participate in this sometimes. Oh Lord these troubled times. And we thought shit was bad 50 years ago. The law may not always be just, but karma is. Please encourage as many people to vote this fall. Because “this darkness has got to give”.

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....Dylan should write a song about it. Pisses me off to no end, but you won't see me torching an AutoZone or a Target over it. Floyd's girlfriend said that he would have been appalled about the reaction and violence over this. He seemed like a cool dude. Those cops? Not so much.
Sorry Deadland, but that was fucked up and I vented here. That video is so sad to watch. So sad.

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Music heals. And we as a people and a nation need all the healing we can get. We learned so much at Grateful Dead concerts about tolerance and acceptance of others and being kind. Keep that spirit strong. We did not go through these experiences for nothing.

Thanks Man. Squeezed in a little Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack bonus tracks early this morning. Been on a 74 bender for this week. Still one of favorite Uncle John's Band.

Yes, this is messed up. So much destruction. Today, they hijacked two ups trucks. Funny, no one here is talking about Covid anymore.

Be well folks!

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....or confrontation at a Dead show. Saw a lot of pretty girls though. Saw someone pass a baggie of mushrooms to someone twelve people down, dude ate cap or two, then passed it back. No one in between snuck a snack. Seems like a different age.
I wasn't at Deer Creek '95. Just saying.
Can I go back to 1989 now?

Heavy times for sure...

My phone just blew up with an Alert System warning, I guess we're on curfew tonight and there's some serious rioting going on. (I wasn't going anywhere, there's also a plague, so yeah.. staying home.)

DEADVIKES: Maybe the Portland people were feeling our Solidarity and had to ramp it up?
I jest, it's craziness.. and '74 is a good place to be.

VGUY: It's '82 today not '89 ;)

As The Replacements would say "Anywhere is better than here."

I'm gonna hunker down and venture onward into 1982.. 4/14/82 to be exact. Love some PITB from '82.

I'll leave you with the following lyrics:

Crumbling ground
Tumbling down
Run to the sound
Of a fire in the city

Stay Safe Everybody and Keep Positive!

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Wow, been outside on the patio doing absolutely nothing but 4/5&6/82 and hunting vermin, while the 1 year old Husky Siblings next door rollick and romp. Huge snow capped peaks down valley with low grumpy storm clouds not doing much but grumblin’...but seems like this situation has gotten fluid...
If you get confused indeed! .....think I’m going to hit the tube again, crack an ice cold Sip O Sunshine, and go back out where those chilly winds don’t blow. I’m sure the wonderful world will be there waiting for us on the news Monday. But tomorrow never knows...so scuse me while I eat this fly.

4/5 & 4/6/82 = good stuff!
I might just like the killer filler the best. But I enjoyed It all.
Great Pick!

Made me fire up 4/14/82 which cooks!! Play it

Between 4/1-4/21/82 Jerry played 16 shows, including:
1st solo show since the ‘60s
1st appearance on Letterman
1st duo show w John Kahn

He’s the man!

OB: sittin’ on the porch doin’ nothin’, good call!
Inspiration..

Really enjoyed that today, no time for a review, just really dug most of this one. Picked it up at Real Gone a year or so ago and have always enjoyed it. Same with that DL vol 6 yesterday. Nice cryptical, Potato, Caution etc, but again, no time, “I got, got, got no time”...85 manana...

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Nice pick. I can't believe I've had this for 9 years and only ever listened to the electric Deep Elem. This is a great show. I even like the Terrapin, which I usually skip over. The 4/5 Playin filler is nice, with Bob's guitar loud and clear for a change. Sound is a little squirrely, but you get used to it.

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Almost forgot...great Shakedown stream last night. Never saw that one before. Based only on being there I used to think that the 90 show should have been the trucking up to buffalo release, and though it’s a good show, that 7/4/89 has really grown on me over the years, it’s funny, I knew it was a great show when I was there, but I didn’t realize how awesome it was until later. Now that I’ve seen the 90 video, Im sure I like 89 better, but I still think it’s agood show.
It takes a while to get rolling, and at first as is often could be the case, the sound sucked, but by the end of first everything was hitting on all cylinders! Great time at this show. Hanging with that 21 yr old I’ve mentioned before, along with our old pal Lee Esdee. After many years, hadn’t run into him until Shoreline that year. Good Times!