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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6651
    wilfredtjones
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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    The Good Ole G…
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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

  • #6657
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    We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
    BS CORP
    WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.

  • #6658
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    Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
    Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
    hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
    So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
    Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
    Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
    Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
    But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
    Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
    Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
    I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
    So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
    Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
    Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
    Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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    but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.

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    Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:23

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This "Morning Dew" is beyond special and is one of the most moving musical passages ever recorded, IMO. Listen carefully and absorb every note. Guaranteed to fill your soul and make every aspect of your life better. **

**Nothing in Bolo's statements to reader will be construed as a promise of guarantee about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes on which Bolo advises reader. Bolo makes no such promises or guarantees. Bolo's comments about the outcome of any of reader's matters, experiences or outcomes are expressions of opinion only.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:39

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....it happens with this band. Like. A lot. I'll sign that affidavit.
Some shows are a complete moving passage. Just gotta poke around.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 19:42

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PITB & Set 2 does it Every Time! = Magic

And What Bolo said.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 20:53

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An unbelievable show and great release. Can't believe they got this on multi-track.

Agree with all the thoughtful comments made on this show.

Oroborous.. I will be sure to finish reading your post with my morning coffee. Glanced it over it and started cracking up.. I think I want to save it for a caffeinated me.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 21:47

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The whole show is just a gem. So, I remember the first time I heard this show from the official release from 2007 and thought Wow, unreal. Too many highlights. Probably my favorite Round and Round, yes the faster Eyes, Good Lovin, Samson, Scarlet. This show was mixed by Norman but not mastered. Plangent, yes. Interesting to me. I have given this show to many people as an example of just how good these guys were.

Tomorrow, how about the Cow Palace show from 3/23/74? Dick's 24. First Wall of Sound show. Yes, it is not the full show.

Thanks a bunch folks.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 22:20

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....is the best New Years.
Y'all better fire up that Deere Jim. Vroom, vroom. Where we're going, we don't need bad vibes.
I member what I was doing 12.31.76. Playing with a Star Trek playset. I loved that thing.
Oblivious....🙄
Five months later, Star Wars came along. 1977 kicks ass.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/27/2020 - 23:27

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Now you’re talking VGUY
Got a Mego Star Trek Enterprise and the crew for my Birthday in ‘76. The transporter was cool!

First NYE show since ‘72 and I think you’re right about it being the best.

Love The 70s!

Don’t remember what I was doing in March of ‘74..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 03:09

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Nice legal disclaimer from Bolo24, Esquire. What a way to start the day.

Reminds me of Mickey's comment, "I'm actually in the transportation business."

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...all primo picks from everyone’s Choice/ Dicks picks and now Dave’s picks ; top 3 in a row, Wow, that’s really hard, that’s like trying to pick your favorite strain of marijuana! (Medical of course) ;)

...here I go , my three Dave’s Picks is #’s 4,5 & 6
Or, #’s 10,11 & 12
...Here’s my Dicks Picks. #’s 2,3,4,5 or #’s 19,20,21,22 I can’t forget #’s 36, 35, 34 & 33..and then..lol ha ha, this is really hard.
I also believe your “attitude” for the day! , can effect this whole process in picking favorites ;)
Have a grateful day everyone be kind be safe peace be with you all, God bless, The Grateful Dead& all of you Dead heads out there in dead land! 🙏❤️💀🌹
..oh yeah, my pick of the day is Dicks Picks #31
* 8/4-5/74 ‘Philadelphia Civic Center’, Philadelphia PA
Along with * 8/6/74 ‘Roosevelt stadium’ jersey city NJ
** a couple of primo performances right after celebrating Jerry Garcia’s Birthday!!! Love this pick!
*** this Picks has “2’ Wicked’ performances of “Playing in The Band” both are just beautifully playing from the whole Band IMO... Rock on!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:42

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Marvey! I’m in, just as soon as I hit some 12/31/76 highlights again, just because...

Hey, what happened to Four Winds Blow? Hopefully just busy...He was a plaaayer, and watching he and GOGD was like a tennis match 😃

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 08:47

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I concur with your take on Spring '90 with one minor tweak and a small addition.

The tweak, ..if you are in the right mood.. that Branford Eyes is effortless and sublime. The add, that Mind Left Body is amazing. In fact second set pre-drums is a spectacularly amazing mindphuck. That second set cooks.

They should have released this as a whole show, what were they thinking???

Where were we, what were we talking about again?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 09:54

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12/31/76, I had a job hanging sheetrock at the time and I was so beat after work I just went home and was in bed by 9pm. I thought about going, you could still get tickets the day of the show, my brother and friends went. 3/23/74, Weir says " no you don't" durring Beat it on down the Line, some guy jumped up on stage and tried to grab Donna. A guy also jumped up on stage and handed Garcia a joint, Garcia took a sniff then took a hit and handed it to someone back stage. Weir said you can really tell who got their tickets over the radio, they were giving free tickets out over the radio. Bolo, were you in the audience that day? I definitely missed some good ones along the way.

We're just messing with you VGuy. If you've seen the Truman Show, well.. I don't want to give away the season finale..

Thanks for being a good sport though. If it helps.. the temperature is going to break tomorrow and you will be in a sailboat by the weekend.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/28/2020 - 19:26

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2 days spent at the Cow Palace, sounds like the band liked playing there.

Any Cow Palace stories out there?

Release sounds real good, 10 songs not on release. 4 from Set 1, 4 from Set 2 and double encore.

Missing:
Mexicali, Tennessee Jed, IMHBTR, El Paso, Ship of Fools, Ramble On Rose, MAMU, Around, Casey Jones, OMSN

Comparing the two, release is mighty nice, SBD sounds good, but def noticeable quality difference, in favor of the release, Uh duh.

The final Palindrome. We’ve heard the first & now the last.. might be time for the middle.

This one is heavy, goes far into Playing and then at just the right time spins out a great UJB and then epic Morning Dew (maybe not as good as yesterday’s from 12/31/76 but that’s for you to decide) back into a long and very wonderful UJB jam and lands to dust off the PITB reprise. Loved it

Honorable mention to great late set Bertha!! Jerry is having fun with this one... Lord!

Haven’t been to the 60’s in awhile, ‘68 sounds good to me, what about 3/17/68 Download Series V6? .

Start with set 2 TIFTOO and TOYLL is extra credit (only song that survives from Set 1 they say due to Anthem experiments 🧫)

It’s Friday after all.

This wonderful release, Dick's 24, gave us a glimpse into the greatness of the Wall of Sound recordings in the Vault. Fun to hear the fist live Cassidy.

So interesting to hear them completely restart Playing in the Band, and I am sure glad they did.

68 for tomorrow!

Be well folks.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 09:15

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Hi-Ya, Hi Ya, Hi Ya Kids!!

Let's dig back in those stacks and pull out some Primal Dead for the POTD

Kick it off with the entire Set 2 from 3/17/68 Download Series V6 released in 2005. (Don't believe it circulated prior to this release?)

Follow that up with Turn On Your Lovelight from Set 1 (Track 1) the only surviving track from that set due to Anthem of the Sun experiments.. as the story goes.

Extra credit:
So Many Roads Disc 1 - Track 8 = Dark Star > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven from 3/16/68

Fun Fact: China Cat would go away for awhile after the March '68 shows and wouldn't come back until April '69

Enjoy and Happy Friday!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 14:14

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May I throw in my suggestion for Road Trips 4.4 - 4/06/82 Philly Spectrum for Saturday? It has been a long time since I've listened, and I need a little ragged-but-right Jerry right now to fit my current mood.

The primal today was fun, but I was so busy, I could only check in a little here and there. Now that night is falling, I might just have to get a little twisted and play it louder than I should.

Peace

OTIS: Do it again, now that you’re right;)

Throw in 6/14/68 Caution from Fillmore Box Bonus Disc & Anthem Of The Sun original mix from 50th Anniversary release and you’ll be stoked.

‘82 sounds good to me!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 15:04

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But, as I don't have the Fillmore Box (though I have the shows,) I will have to archive that bonus disc "Caution".

Just for fun, I did a quick Google Shopping search for the Fillmore box with bonus disc... $1,369.00. I suppose that's fair :) Supposedly, it is still sealed.

In another life, I will make my living by making money for the uber-rich so I myself can become one of the 1%, hopefully hiring others to make me more money in turn. Then, I will drop cash like that on a set of CDs (I know! They ARE worth it!) Also, think I'll buy me a Learjet.

Peace

Edit: Found another one for $1,899.00! That first offer is looking better all the time!

Edit 2: Ok... I need to stop, but a guy on eBay has a sealed 77 Winterland box, with bonus, for $1,599.95 - but it has free shipping. I hope that I'm not pulling any tails, but this is crazy. Who has that kind of coin for Cds? Also, why is the 73 Winterland box so much cheaper? IMO, it's the better of the two Winterland boxes.

Back to only positive vibes (sorry friends, I think I am letting my topsy-turvey stressful week leak on to this wonderfully positive thread...)

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 15:29

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eeeeeeeeee, but I believe that's wadeocu's favorite Terrapin 4/6/82.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 16:39

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Positive/Bad vibes. They WERE good, at least I got a good chuckle when I see those prices. I see the prices for a complete Dick's and I say, thank you, but no thank you. As for who has the coin? Actually for a way to piss money away, it's pretty cheap. Watch those car customizing shows! Some have the money to just piss away, some it maybe the only way they piss it. But can you imagine dropping 2k on a box, then find in a year, you got the rot!!

In the words of Sam the Man -

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed. ”

ps - figured I'd give credit, didn't want to anger the plagiarize god, during our time of plague. :-)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:07

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Happy Shakedown Stream!

Jerry is looking healthy, he’s younger here than I am now.. that’s a trip.

Give it just a minute and it’ll blow away ;)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 18:42

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....RIP Brent.
Changed my avatar to a new pair of Birkenstocks I got in the mail today. My old pair were like 7 years old, and finally wore out. Any Birks fans out there? Only sandals I've worn for the past twenty years. I swear by them. Bob Weir get it. Smart guy.
Lol. Phil sporting the same dolphin tie-dye I used to own, until I got it caught on a gate and ripped it.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 22:46

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Yes, the 82 Philly show. Need to listen to that one again. I remember being super excited and then....

Other releases that are crazy expensive on the secondary market. Not sure they ever get those crazy high prices. $1599 for Winterland 77.

Otis, remember, you have a friend in me.

Crazy times around the US and my home here in MN.

Haven't had a chance to listen any Dead tonight... Tomorrow!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 03:25

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... listening to 82’ got me thinking about the 80’s Dead, and a favorite year of mine during that era is 1985! A profound time/period in the bands career and musical Style & composition formate for their live performances. I remember readying and seeing how the fans & audience would come to their concert with a lot of energy & grateful vibes radiating oof the crowd & Band , especially 1985! IMO. It was like a ‘religious experience’, it’s really hard to describe in words. Everyone seem to be on the same page and the dead could do no wrong! The band was just firing 100% on all their mystic musical cylinders As a unit & band . I think Bob & Jerry are really great during this year,85’ they both just seem to be on a higher level of cosmic connection with each other. And I also think Brent really added a lot fire to the music. Jerry seemed to really play well and enjoy the inter play between himself & Brent! While weir begins learning how to play slide guitar on the sidelines lol 😆 , just playing around folks! Dicks picks #21 is all this wrapped up & more in this dicks Picks, #21
11/1/85 Richmond VA Another primo pick!
Have a grateful day everyone, rock on!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:31

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I’m alright Jack
Keep your hands off of my stack

Those eBay prices are the “I don’t really want to sell it price”.

If people were willing to pay those prices then the items would have sold already.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:34

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100% right.

First rule of collecting anything,,,, don't tell me what price people are asking, what price are they getting.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:31

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... on 4/6/82.

Ah, this show feels like slippin' into a nice ol' worn-in pair of Birkenstocks. (VGuy, I've been rockin' them since 96 - I always go with the classic style with the backstrap. I even wore a pair of Birks at my wedding - granted, it was on the beach... or did I plan it to be on the beach so I could wear my Birks ;)

@Dennis, IceCream, etc. - yeah, I know those prices are unrealistic, and there are many sillier things to piss your money away on - shit, if I had of saved all of the money I've spent on stupid cigarettes, I could buy the entire GD catalog for eBay prices two or three times over.

@DeadVikes, you're a good man, Charlie Brown! I will holler if anything particular jumps out at me.

CRS>Promised Land - Hell of a nice way to open a show!

The Shakedown Stream was delightful last night! Bobby and his mirror shades! Sad to think that only 10 days later, the world lost Brent. He was a true treasure.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:59

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It’s kinda ironic, I started feeling positive this week about things maybe turning a corner in my immediate surroundings, which I hadn’t been feeling prior. Had a pretty good week, and great Thursday & Friday and was feeling a bit more up than previously. And then I watched the news.. one of the worst weeks in the History of America.

A bright spot for me throughout has been hanging out with you all and listening to some good jams and talking about this band we all love. So thanks for that You ALL!

One Way or Another, This Darkness Has Got To Give.

DEADVIKES - Hope you get to enjoy some good jams today! My heart goes out to you, your city and our nation, we will survive.. I hope!

VGUY - Nice Birks! Shakedown Stream was sweet, watching Brent was sometimes bittersweet. RIP Brentski, them was some good times!

OTIS - Dead Heads are a resourceful lot and you got friends. Whoever is going that other route might have more money than sense. Just saying..

LMG - 1985 RULES!! Always been especially fascinated with that year, and it’s the year the bus came by and I got on. I’m down for 11/1/85 DiP V21! Maybe tomorrow?

And now.. it’s time to set the WABAC for Philly April ’82.

CR&S > Promised opener anyone? (Right There with you OTIS!) Wo-Ho!!!

...hello ‘good Ol Grateful Dead , sounds grateful tomorrow Dicks Picks #21 “1985 - Richmond, Virginia”could be “the pick of the Day! I’m in if it’s okay 🙏
...I missed the Dicks Picks 24 discussion, I’m a big fan of that dicks Picks. As one mentioned it was the first time for “WOS” and it was beyond primo - it was & still is in short, heavenly ! I look forward to rewind back to 24 , dick pick. Ciao’

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 08:40

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...heres a special little treat for all you brothers & sisters out there in this beautiful openWide grande world we all call home!
Have a grateful day everyone! H errs a little gift BB of love for all of you here as well as the ones who have passed on, god bless! 🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 09:37

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Have slacked off listening. Just glad I can participate in this sometimes. Oh Lord these troubled times. And we thought shit was bad 50 years ago. The law may not always be just, but karma is. Please encourage as many people to vote this fall. Because “this darkness has got to give”.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:05

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....Dylan should write a song about it. Pisses me off to no end, but you won't see me torching an AutoZone or a Target over it. Floyd's girlfriend said that he would have been appalled about the reaction and violence over this. He seemed like a cool dude. Those cops? Not so much.
Sorry Deadland, but that was fucked up and I vented here. That video is so sad to watch. So sad.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:49

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Music heals. And we as a people and a nation need all the healing we can get. We learned so much at Grateful Dead concerts about tolerance and acceptance of others and being kind. Keep that spirit strong. We did not go through these experiences for nothing.

Thanks Man. Squeezed in a little Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack bonus tracks early this morning. Been on a 74 bender for this week. Still one of favorite Uncle John's Band.

Yes, this is messed up. So much destruction. Today, they hijacked two ups trucks. Funny, no one here is talking about Covid anymore.

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 15:14

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....or confrontation at a Dead show. Saw a lot of pretty girls though. Saw someone pass a baggie of mushrooms to someone twelve people down, dude ate cap or two, then passed it back. No one in between snuck a snack. Seems like a different age.
I wasn't at Deer Creek '95. Just saying.
Can I go back to 1989 now?

Heavy times for sure...

My phone just blew up with an Alert System warning, I guess we're on curfew tonight and there's some serious rioting going on. (I wasn't going anywhere, there's also a plague, so yeah.. staying home.)

DEADVIKES: Maybe the Portland people were feeling our Solidarity and had to ramp it up?
I jest, it's craziness.. and '74 is a good place to be.

VGUY: It's '82 today not '89 ;)

As The Replacements would say "Anywhere is better than here."

I'm gonna hunker down and venture onward into 1982.. 4/14/82 to be exact. Love some PITB from '82.

I'll leave you with the following lyrics:

Crumbling ground
Tumbling down
Run to the sound
Of a fire in the city

Stay Safe Everybody and Keep Positive!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:37

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Wow, been outside on the patio doing absolutely nothing but 4/5&6/82 and hunting vermin, while the 1 year old Husky Siblings next door rollick and romp. Huge snow capped peaks down valley with low grumpy storm clouds not doing much but grumblin’...but seems like this situation has gotten fluid...
If you get confused indeed! .....think I’m going to hit the tube again, crack an ice cold Sip O Sunshine, and go back out where those chilly winds don’t blow. I’m sure the wonderful world will be there waiting for us on the news Monday. But tomorrow never knows...so scuse me while I eat this fly.

4/5 & 4/6/82 = good stuff!
I might just like the killer filler the best. But I enjoyed It all.
Great Pick!

Made me fire up 4/14/82 which cooks!! Play it

Between 4/1-4/21/82 Jerry played 16 shows, including:
1st solo show since the ‘60s
1st appearance on Letterman
1st duo show w John Kahn

He’s the man!

OB: sittin’ on the porch doin’ nothin’, good call!
Inspiration..

Really enjoyed that today, no time for a review, just really dug most of this one. Picked it up at Real Gone a year or so ago and have always enjoyed it. Same with that DL vol 6 yesterday. Nice cryptical, Potato, Caution etc, but again, no time, “I got, got, got no time”...85 manana...

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:27

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Nice pick. I can't believe I've had this for 9 years and only ever listened to the electric Deep Elem. This is a great show. I even like the Terrapin, which I usually skip over. The 4/5 Playin filler is nice, with Bob's guitar loud and clear for a change. Sound is a little squirrely, but you get used to it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:37

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Almost forgot...great Shakedown stream last night. Never saw that one before. Based only on being there I used to think that the 90 show should have been the trucking up to buffalo release, and though it’s a good show, that 7/4/89 has really grown on me over the years, it’s funny, I knew it was a great show when I was there, but I didn’t realize how awesome it was until later. Now that I’ve seen the 90 video, Im sure I like 89 better, but I still think it’s agood show.
It takes a while to get rolling, and at first as is often could be the case, the sound sucked, but by the end of first everything was hitting on all cylinders! Great time at this show. Hanging with that 21 yr old I’ve mentioned before, along with our old pal Lee Esdee. After many years, hadn’t run into him until Shoreline that year. Good Times!