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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I’m not as think as you stoned I am

    Your karma just ran over my dogma.
    It’s all right. It’s just my car ma!
    Good old Grateful Dead , mil gracias!
    Muchas Garcia’s !

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    Where did I park my car?

    I don't think I would have been too happy if Neal Cassady had stolen my car. Maybe its better if your car is knicked by a living legend.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    I'm Skeptical

    Phil's comments sound like they've been playing for a minute and I just find it hard to believe.
    But I guess we wouldn't know for sure unless some more music turns up.

    But if that did happen it would be a rarity indeed.

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    yeah - meant 5/13 Des Moines.

    GOGD - had the wrong date in my head. I picked up that upgrade when it first came out. that's the one I drove to.

    wow on 2/19 - hard to refute an eyewitness. time to quiz Dave L.?

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    BlueCrow if you haven't listened to 5/13/73 in awhile check out the upgrade of Set 3 from 2009.
    (And when I say "in awhile" I mean in the last 11 years;)

    https://archive.org/details/gd1973-05-13.set3.sbd.fix.smith.miller.1003…

    I'm down for a May '73 box set if that's what you all want.
    That sounds totally cool to me.

    As for 2/19/73 here's what dude was saying..
    Jim Da Couch says the following on Archive.org -
    Not just a snippet ...
    For those of you wondering what happened to the first set, I was at this show: THERE WAS NO FIRST SET. NRPS opened, then the Dead came out, played this one set and left. Chicago's International Ampitheatre was a big old barn with terrible acoustics -- didn't seem like the band an audience connected. I left disappointed, wondered if I'd ever go see 'em again. (Luckily I came to my senses!)

    Again, I'm thinking that's probably NOT what happened, but interesting concept.

    Good times, great oldies.

    Who's got a pick?

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    fantastic jam sequence starting with that sublime he's gone. no way that's the whole show. my old dead base lists a few songs from first set that don't seem to circulate. also says NRPS played??!!

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    edit i meant 5/13 not the non-existent 5/19. nice to see this get a shout out. I burned a copy of the jam sequence ca. 12 years ago. was working a winter excavation 2010/2011 in Escalante, commuting back and forth every 2 weeks. beautiful landscape but a fair amount of remote night driving that time of year. 5 cd changer in the truck back then. I seem to remember 5/19 jam, plus disc 3 from 11/11/73, and bonus disc from Road Trips vol 1 #3 in there the whole time. good safe deep traveling focus road music.

    I floated the May '73 box set as a wish list item a couple years ago - i think before PNW which of course might have changed things a little. still hoping.

    back in the day a buddy would put together tapes for me that were nothing but several drums/space from later years. maybe had one that also included each first song out of space. they were excellent highly enjoyable tapes. Like i mentioned a couple weeks ago, check out 5/25/95 seattle D>S for a good cosmic journey that lands you in the final Wheel.

    Onward!

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    Thanks BlueCrow, 2/19/73 is a sweet treat!
    Sick Other One, def enjoyed dusting that off.

    Somebody on Archive.org was saying that this is the complete show, but I'm having a hard time digesting that...
    Phil's comments at the beginning sounds like they've been playing for a bit, and how many shows did they start with He's Gone and just jam a epic set and split in '73?
    Seems like a Set 2 possibly 3 to me.
    Whatever it is, I like it.

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    psychedelic SCHWING!!!

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    Cowboy Neal @ The Wheel

    I don't know Strider, I think it'd be hard for Neal to settle for a different body.
    It's hard to downgrade.
    And I'm impressed with your discipline.

    Rockthing sounds like you are def picking up the vibe from 5/13, I'm pretty sure that Casey Jones is the Encore, and was probably moved around on tapes at some time.
    Be sure and switch to the upgrade of Set 3 for the big jam starting with He's Gone, it'll get you out of the Hiss world and into more of a vision of what could be and what was :)

    BobT - I'm surprised with you wanting to hear '73! ;)

    Alright, the bowl was not very super.

    But music collecting proved to be fruitful so that's a win.

    Who's got a pick on this fine Monday morning?

    PS - BlueCrow I still have 2/19/73 on my to do list. So much Dead! What a great problem to have.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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I always liked that Spectrum show. It got beat up when released for sound quality, but for the era, it sounds quite good compared to most of the rest. I think it sounds better than the RT 1.1 a mix, but a lot from the Spectrum 79 run.

It's a cool little show and one of my early cassettes. It's got a short and potent TOO into a soulful Morning Dew. In 82, to my ears, Jerry could still deliver those mournful, soul-felt lyrics. On a good night in 82 his voice still sounded fresh. This might be the last year that was true, but I certainly liked the way he sang in the later years too. Visions and She Belongs to Me comes to mind.

Anyhow.. cheerio folks.. have a great night. Play your favorite show like it's 1999.

Edit: I am partial to 4/19/82 and 4/9/83 from that era, but I am biased.

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Wooooohoooo, we neeeeeeeddddddddd MOR-R-R-R-Reee nitrous!

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....the laughing gas show. On it.
Spoiler alert. They play Cumberland.

“Maybe things don’t feel so good, you know what that’s all about.

It’s kinda like that in the world today things have fallin’ just kinda ill.

But listen there’s something you can do about it. You and me can do about it.

Cause we’re gonna change it, we’re gonna make it happen. Nobody else is gonna do it.

Listen deep down inside you got a light, turn it on, let it get stronger, let it get bright. And leave it on, that’s right.

Got to have Good Love.”

Bob - 4/19/82

Is it Bob laughing? Sounding pretty maniacal there Bobby!

More Nitrous..

Lovin’ April ‘82 this weekend.

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How about 9/24/76 to start our Monday. Dave's Picks #4, College of William & Mary.

Looking for a way back to some sort of normal. Not sure when that comes.
In the meantime, this wonderful pick deserves a spin.

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This sounds like a very promising pick for tomorrow. I just rewatched Dave's excellent seaside chat. Very promising, indeed...

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9/24/76 DaP V4

Nice call on the Seaside Chat Gollum, I'm pumped for some jams.

PITB > Supplication > PITB along with some tasty looking Blues For Allah stuff, time to revisit this puppy.

Have a Grate Day you all!

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Save the date.... if this existed on soundboard!!!! We all love the Winterland run, but this show just gets ignored due to only audience tape existing!!! So Thursday of this week put this one on... and dare to dream... look at the set list... did it rot in the barn, did no one tape it, we can only dream!!!!!! bob t

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming! I won't comment on the decision to turn the site into a fundraising arm for 24 hours. They own the site and have the right to do it.

So 9/24/76, Dave's 24, was a great way to start my Monday. Different than June 76, yes, for sure. Great show, not long, but perfect for Monday. Love that Playing, Supplication. And yes, that Slipnot is a killer.

Be well folks!

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This looks tasty, many say top 5 show, I will have to dig this one up as I have never heard it but the set list is a good one. Thanks for the heads up

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Hunter just put up these two matrix versions of these legendary shows, for those of us that are into that sort of thing (I know I certainly am!)

6/26: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-26.149947.mtx.seamons.ht119.flac16
6.28: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-28.149954.mtx.seamons.ht120.flac16

PM me if you need any help DLing :)

Peace

I was going to suggest a certain song by N.W.A. but thought my attempt at humor might not be appreciated....and not within the boundaries of our usual decorum....
So I might swing around to 11/1/85 again as I didn’t get a full listen in and haven’t heard in forever....
Pretty soon being the 35 anniversary year of that awesome summer tour, I may dig deep into those....

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Listen and pretend you have the best sound board ever!!!!.... Franklin's Tower>China Doll!!!!. be safe and good everyone, bob t

All right China Doll is close to Comes a Time for 5/4/77 and 5/9/77 if there was a sound board.... last plead.... and you get a 12 minute NFA after also..... I feel like I am trying to sell Ginzu knives.... cuts threw cans and then a tomato!!!

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back in the day it did not fit on a 90 minute maxell xl II........ compare that to the rest of Spring 77... sorry last rant..... please listen if you never have tomorrow!!! bob t.... if there was a board drop the mic!!!!! check out set II set listen!!!!

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His birthday today. Saw him in April 1973 in Phoenix, Freddie King opened.
Curtis’ song “(Don’t Worry) If there’s a hell below, We’re all going to go” is a classic. One of the most powerful live concerts I ever went to, that includes the Grateful Dead.
Eldridge Cleaver wrote in his book “Soul On Ice”and addressed the hippies saying that they were the white niggers. A white man with long hair can cut his hair and dress in plain looking clothes and blend back into society. The black man can not change the color of his skin.
I am paraphrasing but I think readers get the point.

I don't know Bob.. there's no SBD.

Just kidding!

Love the hype, looking forward to dusting off my moldy oldie Audience tape of 6/4/77 on it's anniversary.

Gonna go hit up 7/13/85 in the backyard, heard it's name kicked around on one of the other forums.
It's been awhile.

Be well all!

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3 hours until eastern daylight time for 6/4/77... L.A. Forum........ last warning Estimated Prophet> Eyes of the World > Good Lovin> Terrapin Station>Playin in the Band> Franklin's Tower>China Doll> Not Fad eAway

Bob t, yes, we would all love an official copy of this show, that is for sure. Maybe some day? Who knows.

A wise soul sent me a copy of this show and it is extremely rough.

Maybe Rob Eaton knows?

Just think of the summer that could have been in 77 if Mickey didn't get in a car accident....

Be well folks, seems like we may be seeing some light at the end of the tunnel?

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I believe DL said 6/4/77 is 1 of 2 from ‘77 that is not in the Vault.

The other 2/27/77 maybe? They have 1 reel from that show, but I don’t think that reel was in the Vault until the Betty Boards return.

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I believe you are correct. 6/4/77.. one of the best shows of the year and one of the worst surviving recordings. Talk about Murphy's Law.

Murphy, turns out he was a real guy. "Named after Capt. Edward A. Murphy, an engineer working on Air Force Project MX981." (The Desert Wings March 3, 1978). The phrase was coined at Edwards Air Force Base in 1949.

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I like the sound of this 6/4/77 Audience Recording by Rob Bertrando it’s a solid recording. And definitely good by ‘77 standards. Good separation and ambience. Digging it.

Definitely a solid show and way cool set list, almost has a mojo style jam as they head into NFA.

Thanks Rob! If you’re out there, would love to hear some of your stories.

Man can’t imagine what we’d of done without Taper’s. They were such an important part of the Dead music trading phenomenon.

Hats off to Taper’s. You all purchased gear, got tickets, traveled, smuggled, got hassled, went in early just to record the shows. And then shared them with all of us. That’s hardcore. I had a hard time just keeping track of my, ticket, party favors and mind.

So glad you made it!

Nice pick Bob T.. did you have a good anniversary trip?

You're both right.. it's a crisp, great audience recording. my comment was in comparison to the rest of the year, which with a few exceptions was mostly miss Betty, and the exceptions were great recordings as well.

I didn't meant to say it sucked, more that all the other recordings were beyond exceptional.

Carry on.. just rereading shit, sometimes my words six hours later don't always match my intentions.

Back to your regularly scheduled
Terrapin Station>
Playin' In The Band>
Franklin's Tower>
China Doll>
Not Fade Away>
Playin' In The Band

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We need to keep this thread going, at least I would like to see that happen. It has been a ton of fun.

I will offer up 9/18/87, which is the 87 30 trips show?

I hope at some point they give us some of the 87-90 Shoreline shows. Quite a few of those shows to pick from.

What do they think?

If you don't have it let me know.

What happened to Bolo and Conekid?

Be well folks.

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A great show.. one of the best of the year and still in my active rotation 4 1/2 years after 30 trips... The energy coming out of the space through the rest of the show is palpable.

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Hot damn! 6/4/77 is a scorcher! I have never really minded decent AUDs, and like was mentioned, this AUD is really pretty good, especially considering how long ago it was. I think it was "Candyman" in Set 1 that made me really sit-up and pay attention, then, of course, that second set is tough to beat by the standards of any era! Thanks for pointing us in that direction!

9/18/87 for today! This will be another first listen for me!

I agree with DeadVikes - let's keep this thread rolling! I have been finding a lot more solace here than on the DaP34 page, especially as of late. Also, I have always thought that it was way more fun to dig into and discuss a wide variety of shows rather than focusing on one specific era of the band. This is my favorite little corner of the internet, and I hope it doesn't dry-up any time soon.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Worth watching the Letterman appearance just to see how uncomfortable Jerry was with that trick!

Our first Official pick from 1987!

OTIS you’re in for a TREAT my friend.

I’m in and this show boils over.. gives me chicken skin just thinking about the goodness that follows space!

DEADVIKES & OTIS: Glad to hear you all are hip to keep this thread going.. felt like it might be dying. And I agree with OTIS in regards to the vibe. I peak at them other threads.. but they’re like Space sometimes they get a little tense, sometimes a little scary :)

AUDIENCE RECORDINGS:
When I know there’s NO SBD in existence at this point. I can really dig a good Audience recording. If there’s a SBD I tend to wanna go to it first. But I think you really gain a different perspective when listening to Audience tapes, and hell after all the crappy tapes I had growing up, these 1st gen Audience recordings sound better than those. And often times sound pretty damn sweet. I'm looking at you June '83.

MISSING PERSONS:
Bolo seems to pop in from time to time.

Missing: FourWindsBlow & ConeKid (Hope all is well!)

BUMP: STRIDER88 - RIP Curtis Mayfield I’m gonna have to go in the garage and find my SuperFly CD, it’s been awhile and what an amazing talent. What was the scene like at that show?

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Yes, it is a 6-pack, but man-oh-man, I really enjoyed it!

For the 2nd day in a row, it is "Candyman" that is the first set winner, though I enjoyed all of the other tunes as well. "Masterpiece" is def. my fav. Bobby Weir Dylan tune, and this whole set has a lot of really strong energy.

I have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to 87, as I think that the short sets turned me off in the past. However, with the release of the Giants' Box, and some suggestions from this board and another friend, I am finding more and more about 87 that I love.

Looking forward to Set II - "Shakedown" opener - you know I love that!

Peace

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Glad to see you guys around for the ride.
87, the comeback year. Remember, Jerry had to learn how to play guitar again after the coma. What a run after the recovery.

There is a ton of great shows in 1987, were are a lucky bunch.

Yes, shorter shows for sure. Always love a Sugaree and that Birdsong is something. Looking forward to the second set.

Let's go Jim, Vguy, Oroborous, Bob t, Gollum, Mhammond!

Damn, you’d think with all this “extra” time I wouldn’t be so damn busy....sigh, falling behind again....
Been spending a little extra time with 11/1/85. Hadn’t broke this out in forever either, hee-hee you guys have been really pulling out so many awesome chestnuts that I’ve neglected trying to keep up with all the great new stuff I’ve picked up the last couple years.
Anyway, good show, Jer drops a few clams and they seem to get a little less in sync later in, but that’s nit picking. What? 5 or 6 tunes before drums, including High Time. Always dig She Belongs to me. Used to think this was a scratch your head pick, meaning imo there are many better 85 shows, and as this is only one of 2 from this great year released, it used to puzzle me. Now, I’m glad we have at least the 2 we do....oh, the Riverbend is definitely a Boobie Dazzler. Got me psyched to go deep on 85 since it will be 35 anniversaries of some of my favorite shows attended at least). Dipped into the Frost too. Going to start on the June 90 Cali shows next couple weeks as they were my first trip to the promised land with that 20 year old in tow and ran into ole Lee Esdee for the first time in forever at Shorline. Also hung with an X at the expo 😉 GOOD TIMES, good shows. I’ll have to have a video night for the 16th.....THEN....
Then we’ll start with those legendary Greek shows to start my 85 summer adventure, but first....
Will try to sneak that 9/18/87 in this weekend as that is a solid 87 show fo sure!
Tonight looking forward to Oteil on the stream, then the awesome 7/7/89 show. Will probably pop the DVD in for the show though as it’s too hard for this old top to go that long without treats and pee breaks etc lol.
Have fun, be safe, play dead!

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Don't forget to stop by Ventura for 7/13/85 & 7/14/85.. I hadn't listened to those in forever until someone mentioned them on the DaP forum and they're greeeeeat!

Some tapes just get emblazoned in your mind in those formative years and you know all the riffs & nuisances, 7/13 is like that for me.

VGUY you should be hip to that too, OMSN > FOTM opener.. love that Fire.

One of the Hawks that live in the tree across the street was soaring around during the Bird Song when I listened to it the other day. Dead Magic

Alright, got some listening to do.

Happy Friday everyone!

EDIT: VGUY - Yep 9/18/87 today.

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Just started Hell in a Bucket. I've been listening to the '87 Giants Stadium show from the recent box and that show blows me away. Great time to revisit this one.

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The April 1973 Curtis Mayfield concert in Phoenix was at the Celebrity Theater that has a round stage that revolves full circle. The audience was mostly African American. The feeling I got was Black Power with dignity and grace . I remember the bass player saying “power to the people means power to ALL the people”. My altered state of mind was real focused that night. Curtis Mayfield was truly a genius of soul and spirit.
Freddie King who opened for Curtis that night had quite the smile of joy as he picked a mean guitar.
Sometimes we only get one chance to see a great musician perform. Maybe that one time gives us a feeling and insight that stays with us for 50 years or more. Those two musicians did it.
JRF68 has gone fishing. A few years ago a gentleman on the boards expressed concern that he could not afford a new box set of his favorite era. JRF68 put out the call that he would help out. I threw in $20. and a couple other folks donated about the same. JRF payed the lions share. That man understands service for others. He deserves nothing less than respect.
So people go out and do something positive today , be it as simple as kind words for others.

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just loaded onto my phone. Bird Song me!

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I always thought when I was older I'd try to stay hip to the new music... But I find myself going further and further into what has come before. 1973 Curtis Mayfield on a revolving stage at the Celebrity Theater singing power to the people.. SHeeeeaaat!

That sounds amazing.

STRIDER 88 thanks for the scoop. Man you saw some good stuff, I appreciate you sharing your stories.

Do you have all the GD shows you saw listed somewhere? I know it's a pain to list em on this here website, but I'd love to check that list out. You my friend have seen some epic shows.

And sorry to hear about JRF68, I saw some of that going down on the other board.

Alright.. I'm heading into the Chicken Skin part of this MSG show from '87.

No reason to get excited..

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Good old G...you should worry - I think I Iost direction with modern music somewhere in the mid 1980s. I wouldn't for a second put modern music down, but I would personally rather hear something form the 1950s/60s/70s than something recorded last week.

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Good to know I'm not alone;)

In retrospect it was the popular music of the 1980s (which was just not doing it for me) that led me to classic rock which eventually led me to the Grateful Dead, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But when you think about an artist like Curtis Mayfield, it's hard for me to compare the type of music he was making to the popular music I hear my daughter listening to.

I fear I'm getting old.

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but...
If you ask me the music that was happening in the '60s & '70s has a certain level of quality that is hard to beat.

Alright, that all being said, I finished 9/18/87, loved it, again.
Now I'm checking out a nice upgrade of the 3/31/93 SBD from Charlie Miller.
I guess that's "modern" music and it ain't bad;)

Is it 420 yet?

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Yep, that show is a smoker. Really love the variety of these 80s sets. The "Shakedown" "Women Are Smarter" "Terrapin" is one hell of a way to start a set, and the post-Drums/Space portion deserves all of the accolades that it has received. I love how energized they sound throughout the whole show.

The more and more I listen, the more and more I love this band. So much to give, and they ask so little in return (save for massive amounts of our time :)

What's on tap for tomorrow? It's going to be another humid scorcher here, so I am thinking I will hole up in the AC, play some tunes, and spend most of my day reading some obnoxiously long novels. Perhaps an equally long show?

Looking forward to the Shakedown Stream tonight! Also, I hope JRF returns one day - he's a good dude and has been a friend on these boards for a long time. Perhaps he will make an appearance around these parts - a lot of the drama seems to be absent here.

Peace

EDIT: Oh, the VAST majority of music that I listen to was recorded well before I was born. Phish, The Flaming Lips, My Morning Jacket, some Wilco... a smattering of other things here and there, but mostly 50s, 60s, and 70s for me too. I think it is pretty common, at least among my group of friends.

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highlights for me:
* juicy Weir guitar on Candyman, Shakedown
*in-your-face "Big Apple" style "Bird Song"
*Drums/Space - my fave part of this show (on first listen). a great night for the rhythm devils- someone (Mickey?) sez "go get em" as Jerry enters for space....

remember that "View from the Vault 4" - with 2 1987 shows? it has a Bird Song, too!

moseying over to Shakedown Stream...

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Great show. Good to hear you all enjoyed it. That finish is something. Morning Dew, Jerry gives it his all. Good Lovin, La Bamba, Good Lovin, pretty sweet. Solid encore.

Had to pull out the liner notes from this show, DL talks about this show as the best of the year. Not sure, but it is really good. I always thought the October Shoreline shows were pretty damn good. Hey Pocky Way!

Send us a pick Otis

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Sorry for the delay. I got a little "too" into the Shakedown Stream last night and fell right asleep on the couch sometime during Drums/Space.

For today, how about something from the Pacific NW box? 6/24/73 Portland sound good? I've sort of lost track of where we've been, so if this is a repeat, I will offer up another suggestion.

Happy Saturday folks!

Peace

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Phew, went hard with the 7/7/89 last night. Oteil another great guest. I don’t know much about him and had never heard him speak before, so really enjoyed. Another amazing 89 show. Ok, going to have to do a double header today, both 9/18/87 and 6/24/73......that’s cool, good day for it.
A little gloomy (rain would be nice, please!....and the misses is at work since their forcing shit open way too early here. Numbers are already going back up, but hey, rich folk just HAVE to come and as Texas is currently a hot spot we’ll look forward to them bringing the plague with them as like half the state comes here for the summer...heaven forbid they couldn’t get their free DVDs and Internet, sorry, anyway its a good day to pump up the noise, ya das good!

Last time I was in step with popular music was the 70s when R&R was just as popular as “pop” music....did really enjoy much of the 90s music though. The rest, eehhhh not so much...

STRIDER: WORD!!