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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #1421
    CaseyJanes
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    You are correct sir about the Bm...also a Dm and Dsus2 according to Ultimate Guitar Tabs on the “Official Version”. I love the above mentioned app. Has most every song that you can think of and usually there are many versions to play so if you’re not quite getting one arrangement there is usually a way for guys like me to dumb it down a bit. That said I need to add those chords on UJB as they are in my range. Will also try the riff....I have a little pentatonic game as well! (I’m guessing there)

    For the record, and if memory serves, I do believe I’ve seen youtube of you playing WilfredT, and you are an excellent player. I’m like a wanna be campfire player at best, but it’s more fun then a frog in a glass of milk.

  • #1422
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    Hola Senor Janes

    Good to see ya!
    I think Bob was alluding to what I’ve heard/read all of them say over the years; it got harder and harder to get the band (especially Jerry) to rehearse and some of those songs you just couldn’t do well without rehearsal: LS, Cosmic Charlie, St Stephen etc. Unfortunately another side effect of ole Jer Bears monkey...especially when you consider how hard many of Jer’s parts were on these songs...it’s a bummer but no wonder many of the greats were set aside.

    GUITARS & CADDILACS; used to play all the time. Tried to play guitar for ten years, occasionally professionally, once in the studio....switched to bass and rarely looked back. Did try the solo acoustic/apre thing briefly, but wasn’t that good and it’s really hard carrying the whole show by your self. And Scarry! Don’t have that front man Mojo either “star waaarrrsss, nothing but staaaarrrrr wwwaaaarrrsss” much prefer to play with 3 to 5 people, the interaction is where it’s at. But the rush of playing in a hot band in front of a bunch of people IS uncompareble....talk about a high!
    But yeah, I preferred being in the back row under the dark lights grooving on the Bass. Played that professionally on and off for 20 years, last ten it was my main, though not only job...It was a gas, but after 100-150 nights a year, often at shitty bars and clubs, when your feet are killing you and your back can’t take that heavy lumber anymore, we’ll sometimes it’s a double edge sword doing what you love for a living....unfortunately haven’t really played in like ten years now. Had to TRY and grow up and get a real job....plus after I got booted out of my main gig, eventually all the calls stopped coming as it is a small, close knit group that gets the gigs here.
    I truly miss it in my minds eye, but I don’t miss schlepping that heavy ass gear at 3 in the morning, or getting hassled by the law, or trying to get inspired when your back hurts and it’s late, and there’s only 4 drunks left, but I do miss it.
    GUITARS
    - Ibanez Muscian Series I got in 79 and modified with Alembic circuitry/pickups in 84.
    - Madeira Acoustic
    - 84 Alembic Spoiler 4 string electric Bass
    - Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 String Acoustic/Electric Bass. picked this up early century when I was playing a lot to get upright sound etc. Never spent enough on upright to be proficient as it’s physicaly painful, and it’s a drag trying to play live with a loud band. I liked the sound I good get with the Kelly and a Sans Amp tech 21 Acoustic DI. It’s made for Acoustic guitar but works awesome for the Acoustic Bass. Seceret is the adjustable mid....
    shit, ramblin again, sorry, fun topic. DAVEROCK sportin’ the Bobbie Dazzler! Nice axe bra! My guitar teacher always played and sold Gretches. Wish I would of got one, but wanted a Bob Weir Ibenez so bad. Almost had one but got the Muscian series instead. I’ve seen pictures of both Bob and Jerry playing one but not sure what show (s)? Think it was around when Bob was first using Ibenez?

  • #1423
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    There's a B Minor in there somewhere...I think after the G. The riff is fun, too! Don't forget to learn that :-)

    Thanks for sharing info. on your guitars, too. I also have a '96 Washburn (D-20 in Koa). My brother just bought his first guitar, a Seagull S6... :-)

  • #1424
    Oroborous
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    6/22/83 source

    Yeah I think that’s the same source as I had. As I say at the time it was definetly my best sounding tape which in those days wasn’t saying much, but this one shined! Great show too, and looks like it must of been a great place to freak freely from the news clip.
    So my buddy Doug hooked up with some dude who either was doing the taping or ? Not sure I really knew, but they knew WTF they were doing, had like Nac with sennhieser mics and were usually low generation and near that quality.
    I had the best gear so most of my friends/cousins would bring their new tapes to my house for coping etc so I’d usually get decent generations. Some shows better than others depending on where they were located. Remember, this was before taper section so some diehard pros would poach in front of board, which sometimes was awesome, other times too loud or tone unbalanced etc...
    Anyway, we start getting some killer 83’s, probably end of year I’m guessing. Unfortunately I never got the source guys info and next thing you know ole Doug’s knocked up the bosses daughter, whose family is super religious so shotgun wedding and no more fun for ole druggles, poor bastard! And no more tapes for us! Dooaah
    Funny part was he got our band to play his ultra conservative wedding, but’s that’s a whole nother story for the bonfire....

  • #1425
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    Hey all, COVID seems to have me busier than I’ve ever been with both the wife and kid working and schooling here at the cave...so I’ve just been lurking here lately on the site, but I have to jump in on a good guitar convo.

    Dennis, I’ve read that 1983 is right around when Gibson started producing great acoustics again, shifting back to some of the methods that they used on 60s flat top guitars. I would love to play that Hummingbird. I’ll bet it sounds awesome, and from knowing what I know of you, it is probably very well cared for! I just recently learned UJB. It was surprisingly (to me at least) very easy to learn and made up of only 5 basic chords (G, D, C, Am, Em) which are some of the first chords (and easiest) that most guitar players will learn. Rhythmically, the toughest part of the song IMO is probably in what would be considered to be the chorus....that is the part that goes “whoa-o what I want to know is ______________....there are some quick chord changes in that line which take some practice, but all in all, not to difficult. That said, singing it and playing at the same time for me is much more difficult. I have only recently been able to incorporate some singing along with my playing and I have been playing for more than 20 years. Some of that I think is confidence factor of worrying about what others think I sound like, which I really don’t give a shit about anymore, but the other part is that rhythmically it is not easy to learn, especially if the song has difficult chord phrasing. Did anyone hear the Bob Weir Shakedown interview from Friday night? He had some interesting comments about Lost Sailor and the reason it didn’t stay around for too long in the bands repertoire. Too difficult to play and the other band members didn’t want to spend the time on it. And we’ve seen that LS has only recently been brought back into D&Cs repertoire. So this got me thinking about the progression of Bob Weirs playing ability. Of course it’s widely know that Bob was nearly kicked out of the band early on because of complaints about his guitar playing. And to be fair he only started playing guitar at the age of 13 and then met Garcia just 3 years later. And any player is going to experience some plateauing, especially early on. That said, it make me wonder if the shift in style on WMD and AB were at least partly made in efforts to help with this handicap as the arrangements are much simpler and back to the basics. (Here is a quote from wiki on the subject:
    “The incident apparently led to a period of significant growth in Weir's guitar playing. Phil Lesh said that when drummer Mickey Hart left the band temporarily in early 1971, he was able to hear Weir's playing more clearly than ever and "I found myself astonished, delighted and excited beyond measure at what Bobby was doing." Lesh described Weir's playing as "quirky, whimsical and goofy" and noted his ability to play chord voicings on the guitar (with only four fingers) that one would normally hear from a keyboard (with up to ten fingers).[13].

    Cousins: what kind of guitars do you own? What gets the most play? Based on your bands genre, I’m going to guess a Fender Telecaster?

    Here are my guitars:

    1). 1996 Washburn Limited Edition Acoustic
    2). 2017 Gibson Les Paul High Performance in Cherry Red Sumburst
    3). Seagull Artist Studio CW Deluxe Element
    4). MJT Custom Telecaster build that is aged vintage relic...Taos Turquoise over 3-Tone burst
    5). Rhino issued Grateful Dead Dancing Bear/Stealie ukulele (don’t really play this one just decoration
    6). I also recently ordered a Taylor GS Mini Koa Plus E with edge burst on my 4 years zero interest Sweetwater card. I needed a good travel guitar and this one gets phenomenal reviews....can’t wait!, but sshhhhhh! Don’t tell Mrs Casey!

    -the one I play the most (currently) is the Seagull...most accessible hanging on the wall right next to the couch in my living room. It has a pick up so I can plug it in but I rarely do as it projects nicely anyway. It as a solid Sitka Spruce Top, with Solid Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and Ebony fingerboard, gold vintage tuners. It’s a beautiful guitar that sounds just as good as it looks.

    Oro - Great repo car story...had me LOL as usual! For those interested, I promise to finish my Gorge story very soon. Fell off the wagon on that one, but the details are still there. Anniversary is also fast approaching....bummed I can’t do the repeat as I planned for Boulder in July...hopefully we can get back at it soon!

    Doc - Great to read your regular posts again. Glad you’re back.

    Be Well Dead People!

    KCJ

    Led Ded: just read your post...couldnt agree more. No better hobby and incredibly gratifying when you are able to overcome a plateau....repitition and practice....I’m at least one hour a day usually early mornings or later at night!

  • #1426
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    Yes, some of us really play...

    I am a guitar freak. I have about two dozen electrics, two acoustics and a couple basses, untold effects pedals and several amps. I actually do pick up those instruments with my two hands and play the shit out of them, every day, sometimes only for a half hour and other times all day long, esp. on weekends.

    It's the most gratifying hobby I've ever known. When you start out, you suck and sound like shit. Over time, you learn other people's songs, chord changes, scales, etc. One day you find yourself sitting there with a drink and wailing along to "Layla" at full volume, kicking ass and blending right into the record. And then, you start coming up with your own stuff. Some people eschew covers and play as themselves right off, but if there's a kind of music you like, learning that stuff gives you a toolbox of techniques from which to start doing your own thing.

    You get out of it what you put into it, practice practice practice. I don't really practice so much as play, but you hone your skills through repetition and hours devoted as you pick up new things here and there. One of my favorite things is to crank up a "Big River" like the one on One From The Vault, and wail along with Jerry. He was so good in his prime it's sick.

    I'm not in a band. I have a straight job and a family (and a mortgage etc.) However now and again getting in a room with other musicians, especially with drums present, and turning up is as much fun as it looks. Unfortunately it looks like a bleak time right now for anyone struggling to make it as a musician. First album sales were destroyed by the internet and bands had to depend on live concerts and merch sales. What are they going to do now?

    A long time ago, I might have leaned that way, but I'm glad I went with the straight job, keeping the guitar playing on the side, pure artistic expression with no strings attached or record company bullshit. Last, anyone who's always wanted to learn to play the guitar, go buy a decent one and get after it! If you keep with it, it will reward you more than you can imagine.

    \m/

  • #1427
    Deadheadbrewer
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    Did someone say, "Saint Paul"?

    LOVE that show from '77 (AND the Saint Paul show from the 1978 box), but cannot allow myself to get distracted from my E72 studies. I still need to finish Bickershaw AND Amsterdam, then get to Rotterdam on its anniversary today. The back-to-back concerts on this tour make things difficult . . .

    I didn't get into Grateful Dead until I was 21 (1991), but if I had been born ten or fifteen years earlier, I would have attended those old MN and upper-midwest shows.

  • #1428
    Cousins Of The…
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    Hey Dennis, I'll take your Hummingbird if it's lonely :-)
    I play guitar in a band(Western Swing/Honky Tonk) , although not sure when we'll be able to play out again this year.

  • #1429
    Dennis
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    Just got DP29 in from Real Gone Music. I never bought any of the DP's when they were coming out, my buddy was getting them and sending me copies, money was tight and what the hell. In the end, wish I had bought them all as they came. Now I'm too cheap to pay some of the prices I see for complete sets, and the wife would never understand :-).

    I have to say for anyone who hasn't bought these real gone music releases, they did a nice job on it. At first blush I thought the bonus tracks weren't included, but though not listed, they are there. It was 60 bucks from amazon (got a price cut before it shipped!) So maybe I'll look into getting the real gone collection,,,,, if it's cheap enough :-)

    Dave the Rock and the Gretsch - I know Dave's not the only one on these boards who has guitars AND I know absolutely NOTHING about guitars or playing. But I looked up your guitar and yeah, pricey things. The demo's online made it sound very nice. My question, can you really play? I've met many people over the years who have instruments of all types, played "in my youth", they can still strum a few basic cords, but really can't play. I have a Gibson hummingbird my wife gave me back in 83-ish, why, I have no idea. Maybe she thought I develop unknown talents. I told it's a nice guitar, quite a few people have strummed it over they years and say "very nice". But one night at the store a customer who came in all the time (doctor of some sort), had just bought a new hummingbird, asked me bring in my old one. Bastard sat down and knocked out UJB off top of head. Blew me away. BTW - said my old hummingbird was much louder than new ones.

    So Dave, do you play? Also other folks out there, do you really play? I believe some of you are in bands?

    Just curious.

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    The bonus disc is simply amazing! Classic songs/jams and the sound is superb. This was a GRATE addition to a magnificent show. Thank you Dave!

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Submitted by LedDed on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 19:58

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Lenny Bruce was kind of the father, as far as I know, of real edgy comedy. Truth in vulgar storytelling. I haven't been around as long as some of you and I'm not trying to come across as some kind of expert. But it's my belief that he pretty much gave his life for his art. Not uncommon among, say, jazz musicians. Noble? Christ, who knows. To be so talented and so damaged with such bad substance abuse issues, it's like asking, did the chicken or the egg come first? The genius is tortured, leading to the substance abuse, leading to more genius while the drugs are still working for you not against you, like a dog chasing (and catching) it's tail. Great art then death are inevitable.

No matter. My take on it all is, being born in 1968 with very young parents, Mom and Dad 18 and 19, respectively, I grew up on not only their music but their comedy. I started watching the original Saturday Night Live as, what, an eight year old - and quickly grabbing cassettes and albums of George Carlin and Richard Pryor from the public library. Cheech and Chong. Times were different, to be sure, but I feel they were not only looser, but better. More real.

Kids and young adults are going to be exposed, eventually, to everything. To this day I find only edgy comedians like Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle funny, having been weaned on the masters. I like an angry rant - even Denis Leary deserves an honorable mention. Early Eddie Murphy. Both Andrew Dice Clay and Sam Kinison were hysterical - right up until they weren't. It's a fine line, walking that razor edge of pushing the envelope without coming across a racist, misogynist pig. Some times you win, some times you lose.

Anyway, God Bless all of you. Feels like the sky is getting brighter.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 20:03

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....my birth year as well ledded. And after 52 years, the racism never changed. Just festered. Like a boil. Ever had a boil? I did. It hurts. I had one at the top of my ass crack. It hurt, and stung.
The times they are a' changin'.
I hope so.

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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 21:13

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I too know what it is like to have big medical bills. Are you cured of your ailments now? Have fun with your box set.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 06:26

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Excellent posts , thanks for sharing brothers!
Lenny Bruce was a true Artist & teacher! Amen!

...thank you for your kind words. I hope you are well now and living a grateful life! Your in my thoughts & Prayers , positive energy & vibes from me to you ! 🙏❤️
I suffer from more than one terminal illness. I never spoke about this here on the forum. I didn’t want to give anyone a reason to make fun or use my illness as a joke.
The doctors gave me six months to live and that was last August, 3 days after my birthday.
I had my two week check up with my three doctors this last Friday. Good news, the. Lesion I have in my brain hasn’t grow within these past three months!( size of a golf ball ; over 3cm, which is very large. I’ve lost over 85% of my vision due to the damaged part of my brain that operates and processes the visual information from your brain to your eyes and vs. the area of the brain that operates all this is in the backside of your brain on the right. Side. That part of my brain is basically Dead Tissue. It’s grey matter Due to the. Lesion. The lesion on my brain is basically a giant scar . No operation is needed unless it starts to grow larger.( this is only pertaining to me and not everyone who has a leash. everyone/case) is Different.
What really “burns my ass“ is the pharmaceuticals companies and their outrageous prices for medicine/ prescriptions.
The medical insurance policy in America is crazy and out of control.
I’m prescribed a medicine that cost a little over $10000 a month and the insurance company won’t pay for it. I have to pay out of pocket , basically I’m forced to or you won’t get your meds. That’s just crazy! I also have chronic asthma -and even with my medical insurance, it cost me over two hundred a month for my asthma meds. If I don’t take my meds, I will stop breathing and die.
Im grateful to say I’m still “trucking”, one day at a time. No two days are ever the same. It’s quite nerve racking But it’s also full of enlightenment!
I’m only alive because of my medication ,my doctors, family, friends, and the Grateful Dead!
The grateful dead is my most effective favorite medicine of all second to laughter, love & hope!
What a long strange trip it’s been!”
Have a grateful day everyone, peace be with you all! Be safe, be kind & rock on my brothers and sisters! God bless!
🙏❤️💀🌹

Listening to ...
* dicks picks #11
*9/27/72
*‘Stanley’theater’ Jersey City, NJ
This is a PRImO concert! It’s truly a amazing performance and recording,mix & mastered & so on! I love this pick and it gets a lot playing time in my home. My system loves the Analog tapes! Beautiful Audio all around! Good Ol Grateful Dead! 1972
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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 08:26

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Not to sound trite, but something I've been trying to live by is something that came to me when I recently heard the old quote, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" It dawned on me that there is always something in our lives that is hurting us, haunting us, or holding something over our heads, so the "trick" is to always enjoy the play, no matter the severity of the horrible thing that we could be focusing on. As the not-so-nice things increase in intensity it becomes more difficult, but in the end, if we don't enjoy the play every time something in our lives is wrong, then we have wasted that time.

Sounds like you're getting through with a positive attitude, and for that, I applaud you. It ain't easy, I'm certain.

KeithFan, please check your PM.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 08:31

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What a cool looking show! If I could go back in time and see 100 Grateful Dead shows, this would be one of them. Hopefully, a tape will surface one day and we can all dig it.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 08:34

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Not to be confused with HDB, which is hot dog + bun, a crucial unit of measure for the Nathan's 4th of July hot dog eating contest, which is coming up. Or is it?

Anyway, HBD!

.. thank you my brother for your moving post!
Abraham Lincoln was a very smart,interesting man & more! in my honest opinion. Peace be with you!
...I have an excellent book filled with Abraham Lincoln quotes! Excellent great book if your interested in stuff like that.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 09:45

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HDB, hot dog & bun, a crucial unit of measure. You are really funny, you have a great sense of humor.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:18

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Was watching this video below, watching the guy on standup bass. His top two (the low notes) seemed to have a cartoonish amount of play in them. Unlike say, Don Was, who seems to apply a lot of pressure to get string to move.

Are there two different strings for bass, nylon or metal? (don't what else to call them)

Would you open tune a string with lots of play for reverb/substain?

Am I just nuts and his bass has normal play?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4XpvWUT2yg

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:29

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I've gone no holds barred on this show. I think I mentioned here that I rarely listen to any of it so that my first first impressions would occur on the Full Norman. The soundboard is so good I said screw it, and it is so freakin good. I guess the next step is to get into 6/9.

I'll bet Dave already has the Full Norman on his hard drive and burned to CD. If were him I would have rung up Jeffrey Norman and called in a favor on that one. How long can it possibly take Norman? I wonder what else he does besides send the tapes to Plangent. I imagine that's how the process works. If Norman owned a Plangent contraption, then every release would get the Full Plangent. I visited the Plangent web site a few years ago but I forget what I read...

Sixtus, missed your Birthday, happy belated bro.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 10:50

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The wave of simply outstanding shows from this time period across the years continues with what many already know is among my all time favorites; we've been sooo lucky to have thoroughly enjoyed this one via the recent box - I just had to chime in again today to give a loving shout out to 6/11/76:

https://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-11.141702.sbd.miller.flac1644

Continuing the trend, I offer applause to KeithFan who finally bit the bullet on 6/10/73. I personally found myself entranced by this Dark Star yesterday....it's a complete Monster among other heart-pounding ghouls from that day.

Thanks also to the many kind folks here who both chimed in or simply offered a momentary thought my way; birthdays are always the best when you feel the love and vibes. A sincere Thank You.

Finally, LMG - your plight is difficult and seemingly unimaginable but the positivity you exhibit despite this each and every day is indeed inspiring.
May The Four Winds Blow You Safely Home.

Be Well, people.
Sixtus

Way off topic, but I‘ve just been listening to Hatfield and the North. Part of the celebrated Canterbury sound and sounding very like early Soft Machine and Caravan (which is not surprising since some came from Caravan). Absolutely love it. Jazzy, offbeat and humorous. Can’t think why I’ve never listened to them before as I was a massive fan of the Canterbury bands. Talking of which, I went to see a modern Canterbury band, Syd Arthur, a few years back and they are fab. Their jamming is quite short but sounds longer if that makes sense. They toured the States a while back with Yes so some might have seen them. Well worth a listen for some modern psychedelic music!

If you are enjoying Hatfield and the North I suggest listening to National Health another Canterbury Band formed by members of The Hatfields and Gilgamesh. When I saw them at Eric’s club in Liverpool in 78 or 79 they had John Greaves of Henry Cow with them and were fantastic. Their albums are very good having a similar humour in their lyrics as the Hatfields.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 11:54

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Royal Mail delivered the album yesterday as promised once the VAT had been paid. The bonus disc PITB is very good. The main album is also very enjoyable. The third disc is practically perfectly played although I think the Casey Jones encore sounds a little throwaway. The Dark Star/Spanish Jam/US Blues is particularly fine. The recording quality is very good throughout. Hope the people still waiting are soon united with their discs.

As I got in the first set of 6/10/76 on my bike ride this morning. It sounded soooo goood… and that Mission in the Rain, got me all sentimental and stuff, like it was written about me and my life right now.. All the things I planned to do, etc. But I have been on a productive role all day, perhaps by dusk I will have done them 3/4 of the way through.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 14:18

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6/23/74 seems beautifully played to me, with the second set easily building the promise of the first. Superb final jam from Dark Star to the end of U.S. Blues. The Spanish jam reminded me of the Quicksilver of Happy Trails a bit. I thought all the final three songs seemed a bit perfunctory, in a way. All the songs and jams up to that point seem to flow organically - the last three just feel stuck on the end-they could almost be from a different show.

I have only played the Playin' from the bonus disc, but that seems really free. The jam doesn't have that sense of infinite space located within finite boundaries that I get listening to the Europe 72 versions, and I didn't notice either Bob or Keith as much as on the versions from that earlier year. The guiding lights seem to be very much Jerry, Phil and Bill. It seems to me that the jam loses connection to the song. Which isn't a negative observation necessarily. I like it, - one to get lost in.

I think I saw Hatfield and the North ( or was it Global Village Trucking Company ?) support Gong in 1974. Never heard a record by them though.

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Submitted by frankparry on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 15:00

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Thanks Colin - I’ll give them a listen.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 15:02

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If you’re only going to listen to one album by Hatfield and the North make it ‘The Rotters Club’ great from start to finish. I also love The Art Bears, another offshoot of Henry Cow. Dagmar Krause has a fascinating voice.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 06/11/2020 - 17:02

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I wonder if Owsley taped this show, and if Bear's Sonic Journals might release it one day? He taped the Dead a few days before at the Fillmore West, so maybe he taped 6/11/69. That show from 6/7/69 sounds great, so hopefully Dave & Co. will put that out soon.
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It's a grey area with the GD. He supposedly left all the masters in the vault, albeit some of the early tapes were labeled with double vision; a side effect. ..so who knows. I bet he at least tried to record it.

Always holding hope.

For what it's worth, I tried to check out the copy on the Archive and it appears none of the songs listed match what plays when you select the song and hit play.

Only adds to the mystery. Fell free to borrow the John Deere, it'll get you there but it's out of fuel, runs only on mushroom powder.

The talk about the Canterbury sound reminded me - last year I got the latest studio album by Soft Machine, "Hidden Details" twice by mistake. If anyone wants it, just drop me a pm and I'll send it over next time I go out. Its pretty good - up to the standards of their late 70s albums, I would say.

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Submitted by frankparry on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 11:24

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Apologies for duplicate post (can’t delete)

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Submitted by frankparry on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 11:24

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I love this band in all its variations. Lucky enough to see them twice recently near me - once at a venue in Derby called the Flowerpot which, while absolutely minute, was a great experience and the band on top form, and lastly at my local jazz venue in Nottingham called Jazz Steps where I managed to snag a copy of the album Dave is kindly offering.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 11:46

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....or was it yesterday? The gang eating breakfast on the Haight. I’m taking the picture so not in it....

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My son got a job right out of high school. Night stocking at Lowes. Did it all on his own. Cool first gig if you ask me. Cooler than mine (dishwasher at a seafood restaurant. Parents made me change clothes in the garage. Smelled like fish).

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 13:02

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For some reason, I have no NRPS, nor do I really know much of anything about them, nor have I really heard more than a snippet or two of their music. Those of you who are well-versed in all things Purple, which one release should I purchase, please? Sound quality is pretty high on my list, but if there is a low-fidelity recording that shines musically, well, then . . . I'll deal with the sound. Thanks in advance!

p.s. I'm guessing that it's a live release I'm after?

I recognize a few of them.. A young Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos with hair and a very young Pharma Bro. :D

Best of luck, Sixtus. If you don't get the job, send me a PM. A horse head in the bed sheets aught to do the trick.

Be good all. The weekend is upon us.

NRPS..
Well, you have to start with the first (New Riders of the Purple Sage).. it's a classic. Get the re-issue and you get a couple bonus songs.
The next, Powerglide, is the first with Buddy Cage and has Lochinvar, I Don't Need No Doctor, and Willie and the Hand Jive.

There's tons of live stuff too. Check out Archive.org and see what era's you like, etc.

After John Dawson died they put out a new studio album where Hunter wrote many of the tunes that I think is good called Where I Come From. He wrote a lot of the tunes on their next one too, 17 Pine Avenue. Then Buddy Cage started to get sick.

Gypsy Cowboy, Panama Red are both good.

This is how AllMusic rates their albums:
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/new-riders-of-the-purple-sage-mn0000398…

Up to the bitter end NRPS were touring hard, playing small venues in secondary cities and letting it rip. Ticket prices were quite reasonable and the band was more than approachable during set breaks, etc. If you get a chance, it's really worth seeing The David Nelson Band. Really good, and they won't be around forever.

Edit: dhbrewer, I would start with the studio albums (plus the Owlsy intro) for NRPS. Think about Friend of the Devil, which was written for the New Riders. Garcia came in, wrote the bridge and called it his. ..but this is the kind of stuff where, at least in the early years, the studio efforts are really well done. My opinion, others will vary.

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Submitted by Hey Pedro on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 13:45

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Home, Home on the Road stands head & shoulders above all live NRPS releases. Nothing else comes close. Terrific sound. And Buddy Cage was THE man!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 13:59

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McDonald's on weekends 1980-81

I smelled like Quarter-Pounders burgers aaaaaallll weeeeeeeeek looooooong

better than smelling like fish, I guess

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 13:59

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I would get the NRPS box set from the Owsley Stanley foundation, that's were it all begins. You have Garcia playing all the pedal steel, how can you go wrong.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 14:19

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Man, nothing gets me out of lurking mode like Jim's mention of mushroom powder -- very difficult to figure dosage, and I tend to overshoot a bit -- and a question on NRPS.

Jim's got it nailed: I'd say first three studio albums. Home, Home on the Road is good. The latest Owsley release is fantastic and as BillytheKid mentioned, Jer is all over it on pedal steel. Then there's the very new Thanksgiving in NYC (11-23-72), just after I saw them for the first time.

Sept 19, 1972, I'm a freshly minted 15 yr old at my first GD show, with NRPS opening. Tripped my ass off in 3rd row Capitol Theater in, maybe May 1973 (still 15!), when NRPS went out on their own. Just great shit-kicking music, upbeat, fun -- just what the doctor ordered for a pandemic. Same month for my first Allman Bros show, MSQ with Marshall Tucker opening. Funny, then it was NRPS and Tucker (I think) opening for the GD at Englishtown in late summer '77.

Was on another forum, which shall remain nameless, with folks commenting on the return of concerts. Frankly, I may be retired from shows. Hard to say. Started when I made my mom (RIP) drive me to The Chambers Brothers at a local ice rink in 1971. Then the Byrds in a field near Woodstock in spring '72, then the GD that fall and it was all over. Only caught the GD perhaps 75 times, but definitely including some key shows (RFK '73, Watkins, Englishtown, every Rocks show they played). And a zillion other shows. Literally, a zillion. Translation: say, 10-20 big shows a year for 50 years, so that's like a zillion, right? And so many artists in jazz, blues, rock, folk. And, truth be told, even if you get lucky with artist and the crowd they draw, the cost and the talking people have in the past 10-15 years made going to shows a gradually inferior benefit-cost ratio. Plus, a shit-ton of my go-to artists are gone. It's Tedeschi-Trucks, Hot Tuna and Los Lobos at this point for must-see. My last show was Feb 29 Hot Tuna electric in Boulder. Jorma going on 80!! And they killed it. Was ticketed to see Los Lobos in Boulder two weeks later when the poop hit the fan. So, although I missed Hendrix and Pigpen and Duane, I saw just about everyone else I'd ever want to see. I could retire with a pretty good resume.

Okay, had to pop off on NRPS, then just started rambling. When one lives alone, one tends to get chatty.

I bought a budget box set of the first 5 NRPS albums last year, which is pretty good. Five albums for the price of one .Three bonus tracks for the first and four for Gypsy Cowboy. Prior to that, the only one I had from back in my youth was the first one-and that still seems the best. Its a very basic box - no information or booklet of any kind. But it must count as a good introduction.

Soft Machine are great live to this day. Amazingly they played in Lowestoft last September as part of a jazz weekend, about 200 yards away for where I live. The time I saw them before that was at the celebrated Ronnie Scotts in London. I don't think the good people of Lowestoft knew how lucky they were ! Live album to follow next month, too.

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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Fri, 06/12/2020 - 20:12

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The best is yet to come. I feel ya on th PITB. It's got a strap yourself in for the ride feel to it. I highly recommend you listen to the remainder in one undistracted session. You won't be sorry.

The hardest thing to do is read posts here when you have some Dead playing. I always follow the urge to skip what I have on and put on whatever show someone praises. 6-10-73, no 6-10-76, no 6-7-69, and so it goes.

Definitely-beautiful Eyes, and a great sequence of music. This might just be my favourite Dave's so far. Amazing to have such a high quality and unique show come out at this stage of the game. Must be over 100 released by now.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 06/13/2020 - 03:29

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I wondered that, too. I have tickets for several gigs this year-Live Dead 69, Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets, Faust, North Mississippi Allstars, Blue Oyster Cult/Deep Purple and Patti Smith. All in London. I can't imagine seeing any of them this year- Live Dead was postponed to July, and there's no way I'm travelling to London then. You can't exactly practice social distancing at a gig...well, you can in Lowestoft, but not in London. Apart from health, there's all those other things you mention. I like gigs best now when I have a ticket for a specified seat. Not very anarchic, but it suits me better now.

My first gigs were a couple in 1972, then I picked up speed in 1973 on up to January this year. If I don't see Hawkwind this year it will be the first time since 1973, I think. Hope I don't turn normal.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Sat, 06/13/2020 - 06:44

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I should have known better than to pose the question of "Which ONE NRPS disc do I need" to this lot! :) The rabbit hole is opening . . .

Thanks, Dennis! Working on it now . . .

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/13/2020 - 06:57

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MLB you can relate to to this show I have tickets for (probably Vguy too): Ace Fehley. I had tickets for June; that show was rescheduled for October. Hopefully Mr. Bigglesworth will get upset with corona. And when Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset, coronas DIE!

And Then There were Three Genesis is touring Europe at the end of the year (Phil Collins son on drums). No doubt they'll end up in the States if things return to normal. Saw them on last two tours, early 90's and 2008. As much as I prefer the Gabriel era, I do enjoy a lot of Phil era songs. Problem is they usually play most of the shitty ones (I don't need to hear anything off of We Can't Dance, and Domino is the only worth a live rendition off of Invisibke Touch, but I'll tolerate the title track as a 3 minute encore. But they always play half crappy songs off their last two LPs (I don't consider Calling All Stations Genesis - more like Tony and Mike and the Mechanics). Pissin' shame they won't tour with Gabriel and Hackett. I'd locate $1000 to see that lineup from the 7th row center, playing 2.5 hours of only Gabriel era songs, in a venue no bigger than an arena. Only problem is Phil can't play drums. Wishful thinking.

El Paso on this 6/23/74 Dave's Picks has some great piano slickery from El Godchaux. Worth a close listen.

I have tickets to several gigs, I am not holding much hope for any of them.. and if they happened, I am not sure I would go either.

The lost year. I guess what's important is that we keep everything in perspective and try our best to stay healthy and happy.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 06/13/2020 - 07:21

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..dicks Picks & members of NRPS join in the *playing of music on Dicks Picks #8
One of my Favorite Dicks Picks in the whole complete series #1-#36
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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 06/13/2020 - 07:29

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Recorded Live to 16-Track at Temple Meadow in Veneta, Oregon.

With Billboard magazine hailing the New Riders Of The Purple Sage as “the definitive band of the country-rock genre,” 1972 was a year of major growth for the band. By the time Summer rolled around, Buddy Cage was now firmly entrenched as Jerry Garcia’s replacement on pedal steel guitar and their second studio album, Powerglide, was getting rave reviews. On the live front, they were beginning to fill concert halls across the U.S. while continuing to emerge from the shadows of the Grateful Dead with an intoxicating mix of classic and original American songwriting from the worlds of country, rock, bluegrass, and soul.

August 27, 1972 found the New Riders once again on the bill with the Grateful Dead for what turned out to be one of the more legendary events in this subculture’s history. On the grounds of what is now the Oregon Country Faire, Chuck Kesey (brother of author and Merry Prankster icon Ken Kesey) put together this benefit concert, which quickly became known as the “Field Trip,” for the local Springfield Creamery. As fellow Prankster Ken Babbs recalls, “no one ever suspected it would become a historic event with an attendance of 20,000 on the hottest day ever—they ran out of water, the guitars warped in the heat and now everyone you talk to, hundreds of thousands, were there on that all time greatest most spectacular day.”
Taken off the original 16-track master tapes, Field Trip is a crystallized moment in time-capturing all the elements of the day along with the thumping and driving energy of a smokin’ set delivered by the New Riders. Early versions of “Groupie,” “Whiskey” and “Linda” are offered, along with a blazing “Whatcha Gonna Do.” Once again, the band kicks out the jams with bassist Dave Torbert leading the way on the Ray Charles classic “I Don’t Need No Doctor” and “Willie And The Hand Jive.”

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