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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 2, 2021 - 7:11pm

#3341

rockthing

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At the risk of double…

At the risk of double-posting...

Strider 808808>

Wow. A Joseph Epes Brown reference! Thank you! Black Elk Crying For A Vision from a mid-70s omnibus made a huge impact on me in my late teens, but I've only recently got round to picking up The Sacred Pipe in its entirety. You actually studied with him!? m(_ _)m

The Ken Babs book sounds interesting. I know what a Water Buffalo is, but not the expression about shooting one.

So many Dead-related books. I've got a ton wishlisted, but there's only so much time in the day. I've been interested in the Owsley book for a while, but have yet to pull the trigger.

I wanted to hit that 7/31 show last weekend but just couldn't get it going for one reason or another. Couldn't remember if I already had a copy, or if I only knew it from legend.

DeadVikes>

3/24/73. That's always a good idea! :D

Oroborous>
Oooh, 2/14 at the Carousel. That's cookin', ...or cleanin' I guess in your case. ;)

Not sure I'm familiar with 5/14/78. Had 9/2 on repeat play last week, or so. We often talk about years regarding the Dead sound, but a few months can make a big difference with these cats. :) Thanks for the tip... as if I need any encouragement..... up to Brown Eyed Women now, listening to the matrix and downloading the mono AKG source. Lovin' it! Never had any problems with '78, myself, other than the stunning disappointment of the GIza shows :0 IDK, I usually associate 78 with the great groove they've got goin' on here in the 5/14 show. Wow. BEW is hot, and that was just the first guitar solo. Damn. Cheers, folks. Whatever I was supposed to be doing this morning has just gone out the window. lol. :D
August 2, 2021 - 6:37pm

#3342

rockthing

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Hey Now. I guess this thread…

Hey Now. I guess this thread /is/ called "Pick of the Day", not simply "Now Playing with Discussion", but I'm just gonna bore you with stuff I've been listening to lately.... and then you probably won't see me again for a month, so, hey, decent trade-off, I'd say.

First off, right now I've got 3/24/93 Chapel HIll rollin'. (I'll explain later) It's weird how in the second set the band totally sees-off Jerry's attempt to start Crazy Fingers out of the Playin' Jam. Phil basically sounds like he's just thrown his hands up, and completely stops playing. In fact, basically every just stops, er... dead. Only Vince seems game to find something to do. When Jer finally gives up, they launch into Box of Rain. After they finish BoR Jerry immediately starts Crazy Fingers again and they actually do it, and do they ever.

Whadda ya figure's goin' on there? Did Jer "forget" the pre-written set list? was it like a super-tease, or did Jerry just get vetoed on his audible? The Playin' jam was sounding cool and a spaced out transition into Crazy Fingers would've been killer. However, Box of Rain into drums would have been, let's just say, unusual. It seems Billy's got some bidness to take care of, 'cause it pretty much immediately turns into a Mickey Beam solo.... as did the 3/25 drums, but Space takes off into a Spanish Jam that seems to go on and on, thankfully. When they launched into GDTRFB I was thinking, wait, what song were they just playing, did I space out?... well, I guess in a way I got spaced out. ... Now that I think of it, there may have been a "We Want Phil" chant starting in the Phil Zone, but it's not audible in the SBD, and I can't remember if that was actually before Box of Rain, or not.

The Crazy Fingers is actually really cool, btw. SPOILER ALERT there's this momentary, and initially slightly awkward, little Playin' reprise before someone gets on the intercom (you can hear the ambient noise disappear for a second... yes I'm listening to a board for once) and seems to call it off. All of these questions seem to typify the sort-of cool, detached, risk-averse nature of this period. Haven't found an AUD source from the Dean Dome that has much life to it. Might be some new ones. It's a basketball arena designed to amplify cheering voices, not music, I'd imagine.

Anyway, just wanted to take a peak at Jer the last time I saw him, in Vegas back in '94, and the same YouTube uploader also had the second night from Chapel Hill, which is notable for its nice Terrapin, and perhaps more so for the stellar Morning Dew. Jerry keeps trading sly grins with someone, and getting an outright laugh out of watching Bobby do his thing. I actually read the comments on YouTube videos 'cause, wow. there are some opinions out there. One dude mentioned this Crazy Fingers from the 24th and how the first night had "always" overshadowed the second. In my mind it had been the other way 'round, which sent me to the Archive this monsoon-drenched morning. Yeah, nobody goes back to listen to 90s Dead, I know. Even the band seems bored sometimes, but there are diamonds in the rough. More often, however, there are outright wth? mysteries like the one above.

The other one... on heavy rotation has been the 50th Anniversary Skull & Roses 180g vinyl. Missed the propeller variant waiting for the credit card roll-over date. Anyway, wow, the bass is boomin'. I mean, it's not overpowering booming, but there is a LOT of Phil. I A/B'ed it with the single disc CD, and even though there's a lot of Phil on that too, he's allotted a lot more low frequencies on this version... which is odd, because people will tell you that you can't put too much bass on vinyl or it'll cause the needle to skip. No fade in, but Bertha also starts a few seconds earlier than on the CD version. There's some little warming up noise before they hit it. Pretty superfluous, but, hey, 2 more seconds! I have not heard the OG Skull and Roses vinyl, but I actually debated on picking one up from Discogs instead of getting the anniversary edition, which ended up being released three weeks late. The price is comparable. Maybe next month.

Speaking of records skipping, I've had the 5/4/72 Olympia Theater vinyl for, what, less than two months and Bertha is already skipping. I think I screwed it up with the generic replacement stylus that I installed back in April. Apparently the Sure stylus/cartridge division has gone belly up. I've kept the old needles lying around, and found one that had been swapped out really early for some reason, so I went back to that. Otherwise, I can't figure out what the problem could be. I play my records, but consider myself more careful than most when handling them. Hard to say. I might have damaged the record, or stylus myself, but it looks like I'm in the market for a new cartridge. The vinyl had no problems at first, but I have records I bought 30 years ago that still play fine, while this one is skipping after 5~10 spins.

The difference between Phil's bass frequencies on the Olympia Theatre record versus Skull and Roses, is beyond description. Phil is fully present in the Olympia Theatre release, but he couldn't deliver a bass bomb if he tried with the frequency range he's assigned here. Wanna compare with the Europe 72 album, but actually don't have a copy of Europe '72 in any format. Just ordered a green label '72 pressing. It was a mint for one in decent condition, but so will any 50th anniversary that might come out next year be. These are supposed to sound amazing. They've already done a bunch of Europe 72 reissues recently, so it might get the Live/Dead treatment.

Two non-audio notes about the Olympia Theatre box are regarding the photos used for the inner sleeves. At first they seemed really dark, and not particularly interesting. The photo of out-of-her-mind-on-Owsley Donna was of interest for how calmly she appeared to be peering out into the spotlight, but a closer look reveals a rather wild set to her jaw, or perhaps I'm just projecting. The other photo that finally grabbed my attention was the Side 1 photo of the band, completely washed out in red lighting taken from stage left, almost behind them. Bobby is standing out front in the spotlight singing and Jerry and Phil appear to be standing behind(!) Billy with Pig at the organ stage right harmonizing with Bobby. So, Jer and Phill would totally just retreat into the shadows when they didn't have any singing parts in those days? Fascinating. Might depend on the stage. You don't see that in the Veneta footage, but there really weren't any shadows that day, were there.

Anyway, my answer to a question nobody asked.
August 2, 2021 - 4:55pm

#3343

Oroborous

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5/14/78

Good Housekeeping tunes!
Kept the mother rolling with first disc of 2/14/68 etc. shizzle fo sho!

Next chance I get we will get down to tge funky sounds of 3/24/73!
August 2, 2021 - 4:29pm

#3344

JimInMD

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5/14/78 - 30 Trips

Great show... It's been a long time since I listened to it.
August 2, 2021 - 1:39pm

#3345

DeadVikes

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5/14/78-OB

The 30 Trips show, yes, this one smokes. On it!
Thanks Oroborous.

I was going to offer up another Spectrum show, Dave's Picks #32, 3/24/73. Maybe tomorrow.

My #39 still has not shipped, 😩.
August 2, 2021 - 10:43am

#3346

Oroborous

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How’s bouta pick?

Maybe 5/14/78?
Got my server back, up and running and need to HEAR, some good sheet mon.
August 2, 2021 - 9:55am

#3347

Oroborous

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Thanks Strider!

For the reference, I’ll definitely have to check that one out. Love Babs, what a character!
I’ll bet his memoir will be very interesting after all he’s lived.

And thanks for the rest of your sage words of wisdom.
You should write a book!

Been really digging 71. Was sorta a flyby year for me until nice folks like you and Doc helped show us the light.
His job was to shed light, not to master...
August 2, 2021 - 9:43am

#3348

Strider 808808

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Babbs

Who Shot the Water Buffalo is a great book by Ken Babbs. The title has a funny twist , double meaning. Any of us old time wild land firefighters knows what it refers to. Once they get to that point in the book.
Pick of the day. I have been staying on the 50th anniversaries of 1971 Dead shows since January. Otherwise taking a break from Grateful Dead music. Kind of like smoking ganga all the time. The effect may become lack luster. As was said in the old days, “space your trips”. Although yesterday I did watch the black & white video of Robert Hunter sitting in with the Garcia Band 1980 at the New Jersey Capitol Theater. Tiger Rose “where the children play ringolevio”.
Speaking of books, “Ringolevio” by Emmett Grogan was one of Jerry Garcia’s favorite books.
On the subject of the mountain west states. Ironic that the people who lost the most , true Natives and in the case of Montana where I lived from 1975-1981 the Blackfeet treated me the best. Very similar here in New Mexico where I’ve lived most of my life. But respect has to be earned and that doesn’t happen overnight.
As an old professor Joseph E. Brown who taught Native American Studies at the University of Montana used to finish his class by saying, “Be of good heart”.
August 1, 2021 - 9:49am

#3349

Oroborous

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Happy happy joy joy

To Mr JG. Hope yer digging the jam...

STRIDER: thanks for the tales, always a pleasure!
Your Yale description let’s us be there, instead of in our mind.

Interesting show. CM SB Audio started out less than stellar but was pretty good bye and bye...
Really dug the Dark Star, perhaps the spaciest of the year so far?
Perhaps this show is a slight step back from some of the earlier beasts, but it’s another solid, very enjoyable 71!

4/12/83: glad you liked it DV. This one goes under the radar, which is a shame, as I think it hangs with most any other on the tour. Among other highlights, forgot about that sweet Rat!
Of course I’m big time biased on this one;
- My 10th show
- front row between Phil and Bob (closer to Phil)
- first show tripping (purple dot I believe, had beautiful death experience)
- first time seeing new, awesome varilights etc
- first time hearing, awesome new Meyers PA
- first time seeing/hearing Phil’s new awesome Modulus 6 string bass (perhaps new Bob guitar?)
- first Help/Slip/Franks, which besides slight early vocal hiccup was awesome
- first (I think?) NFA fadeaway/chant to end, then Mickey came back out and they quietly pick back up and fade back into for encore NFA, followed by sweet Baby Blue!
One of those shows that even after the lights came up nobody moved right away, many still doing the chant! The kind of night where it appeared like A LOT of people were tripping, total 10k mind meld, gives me shivers to recall....

BABS memoir, bet that’ll be interesting!
Loved Last Go around, and that bus one, but don’t have Water Buffalo?
Guess we’ll have to talk to Santa about some books...
August 1, 2021 - 7:47am

#3350

Strider 808808

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Happy 79th birthday for Jerry Garcia

I listened to the complete July 31, 1971 yesterday late afternoon and into the the night. Aside from my copy of Road Trips that is only part of that Dead show I had never heard the complete concert since being there 50 years ago. There was a fresh new sound that brought a flood of memories during last nights listen. First a couple quick corrections. I mentioned Pigpen stepping out in front during the third song. Obviously he was playing the Hammond B3 organ while singing Mr Charlie. Another correction is from reading the notes of Blair Jackson in Dead Base 50. Blair states that the audience rushed the stage during the first song Truckin’ but it was indeed the third song, Mr Charlie when people poured on to the grass in front of the band. My friend Danno who I have stayed in touch with for over 50 years also correlates that sequence of events. Practically nobody danced during the first two songs. It was as if it was a high school dance where hardly anyone was wanting to be the first up and dancing.
On a side note the best writers involved in the history of the Grateful Dead in my biased opinion are Blair Jackson, David Gans and Dennis McNally. I have to include Rosie McGee in that mix as combined writer and photographer who was there from the beginning (or damn close) of course add in the books by Jerilyn Lee Brandelius (GD family album) , Phil Lesh (Searching for the Sound) , any of the books written by Mickey Hart ( Song Catchers my favorite) Bill Kreutzmann’s book with ghost writer Benjy Eisen. Must include John Barlow autobiography. So much for book reviews
What struck me about 7/31/71 was the high energy that comes through. Jerry is candid as in effervescent, both singing, playing and commentary with the audience.
Another aspect I remember was the moon was out, and I looked this up on the internet, it was waxing gibbous at 60% illumination.
Another important note, my old school classmate and friend Missy Infante attended her first Dead show that night. I mention her to honor her memory as she passed on in recent years.
So those are some of the flashes I can remember from Yale Bowl, July 31, 1971.
This was at a time when I was earning money cutting oak for firewood. It was how I paid for my first trip to the Bay Area a few days later to visit my sister who was living in Sausalito. That trip included my first two west coast Dead shows that were at the Berkeley Community Theater mid August and then hitchhiking to Oregon to visit my brother and his wife who were spending the summer living in a tipi 35 miles southeast of Eugene. But that’s a whole other story.
Yale Bowl Grateful Dead was an amazing night.
Jerry Garcia would have been 79 today. Also, today Ramblin’ Jack Elliot turns 90.
“ Rollin with my baby down by the San Francisco Bay”.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

JimInMD

Check your PM, please

6/9/90

LTGTR and an excellent Stranger to start off nice. A sweet little Peggy O, perhaps slow, or is it that laid back hometown California mellow? Either is good. Shootem up polka time, followed by an always welcome Loser, status quo masterpiece, my 2nd Loose Lucy after Hamilton, which seemed looser than the first, but more fun this time around as I was with real life 20 yr old Loose Lucy!. Decent Cassidy with a Dough Knees to bring her home. Another neat, together, but unremarkable set. Status quo for this year. Seemed perhaps a little less enthusiasm then yesterday, but picks up as it continues.
Nice Victim to shake things up a bit and get er going, but the TOG is perhaps a tad behind the curve for this show? 2nd set LL Rain that Bob gets things stepped up a bit and sets the tone for nice terrapin, but unfortunately there’ll be no extra credit jam/weirdness tonight on the way to drums. Awesome long weird space which segway's nicely into Mr Fantasy/Hey Jude. Watchtower kicks it up before the nice bring down to Stella Blue. Lovelight and Black Muddy to send us home, which in this case was stealth, late night, poolside surrounded by palm trees at the hotel. Man to this “southern Canadian” palm trees was a pretty big deal! So far I think I like 6/8 overall but they both where like Otis and GOGD mentioned: decent, tight, status quo 90 shows with a definetly laid back home town vibe. (Meant in a good way). Spoke with my cousin who was there about his recollections and he agreed about the whole Cali vibe thing and to us north East nuts it was pretty cool.
Ok, manana we’ll finish Cal Ex up and I’ll share a humorous take from that night after at the hotel. I believe statue of limitations is over for hotel damage? Lol. Maybe I can find a photo of our motley crew having breakfast on the haight a day or two later?

Strider

Pretty cool Strider you were at the 6/9/77 show. How about you Bolo?

Where you guys in the Grateful Dead Movie?
Don't tell me you were the guy in the overalls eating chicklets.

They Promised They Would Play Tonight

You Just Wait...

The chiclet guy rules.

So does 6/9/77
Hot show for sure... Just a Dream.
Set 1 is solid '77 Dead until TMNS then it starts to turn the corner into Extraordinary.
Set 2 is wow just wow.
That Slipknot! it's gonna get some extra rotation tonight.
The Terrapin Station tunes are given some really good readings.
Estimated goes way out there, sounds like they'd been playing it forever, or at least every show all tour.
And then they slide a Terrapin in after St. Stephen for an extra Dose of fun before bringing it home with Sugar Mags.
They didn't have to do that, they could've just played Sugar Mags, but they really bring it to Winterland.
Great version of US Blues and OMSN too.

Hot Damn.. nice pick.
You can hear the fun.
That was fun.
And you all were there!

OB: You summed up 6/9/90 real nice.
And I nod in agreement with what you been laying down.
Looking forward to the party story and 6/10 show tomorrow.

Birthday Show for me :)

Thank You All And Good Night!

Winterland

I was referring to the several times seeing the Dead at Winterland but no not 6/9/77. First time seeing the Dead at that venue was February 1974 the night before the Dave’s Picks release show. Then four out of the five nights from October 1974. Missed the first night as I was hitchhiking down from Eugene. I’m in the Grateful Dead movie dancing in the crowd during Playing-Reprise. Then I was at 12/29/77 and 12/30/77 that was released as one of Dicks Picks.
My first time to Winterland was May 1973 to see Hot Tuna. Muddy Waters opened. Also saw Dave Mason there in 74.
Needed to set the record straight.

Winterland

My first show there was 11/10/73, missed very few after that. I listed the ones I went to on my page here, only because one of my buddies kept track of such things.

I have no way of remembering every show at other venues - way too many and my feeble brain doesn't retain details like that. And, yes, like many of you, I was very fortunate to be roaming this planet during that magical time.

PMs Checked

Wow.. don't check your PMs for a day, get one from Bolo with an urgent sequence of instructions and the DJIA drops 300 points.

Tomorrow's Pick

Might be time for another Bolo pick?

Something primal, perhaps?

https://archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.139745.sbd.miller.Glassberg.fl…

Go ahead - turn it up and scare the neighbors!!

10/12/68. What a show!

This show is a winner from start to finish, it burns! It has my all-time favorite version of St. Stephen on it. I guess the story goes, that Hendrix was standing on the side of the stage but the Dead didn't let him up to play. The Dead had invited him out to practice with them and he never showed up. Pig Pen apparently didn't play, because his girlfriend was sick. This show was originally broadcast on Bay Area radio station KPFA, a fantastic listener sponsored radio station that you can get online, they play all kinds of great music. Phil Lesh used to work as an engineer at KPFA back in the early 1960s on a show called the Midnight Special , folk music show, and he brought Jerry Garcia on there to play some shows on the radio. Anyway,. 10/12/68 has always been of my favorite shows, hopefully Dave & Co. willl release it one day, put together a box set, two shows from 68, 69 and 70.

10/12/68

10/12/68 it is Bolo!

Please Let Go of Your Bodies Everybody!

Everybody Has to Dance or Else.

10/12/68 at the Avalon Ballroom.

Anybody got any Avalon stories out there?

This is one of my all time favorites for sure :)
Love '68
Here we go.
Have a safe trip everybody!

Primal then Prime-Time

Sweet pick! I think I actually prefer 68 to 69 (please, no rotten tomatoes!) 10/12/68 is a perfect start to this blazing hot day... and I agree - it's time for Dave to release a 68 show - this one is certainly a contender!

Afterwards, I think I will finish out the Cal Expo 90 run with the 6/10 show. I've really been enjoying those this week.

Hope everyone is safe, happy, and staying cool!

Peace

St. Stephen

St Stephen is just crackling with energy, as is the whole show!

The older I get the more I like New Potato Caboose

Phil's base jam is crushes it!!!! Onward to 6/10/76 for a little anniversary listen... bob t

Did someone say 1968?

Hell yea. Light the fuse and run away.

10/12/68

Great show! I don't think I've listened to this in its entirety before. This is also my first time trying the Relisten app -(how nice!) I love the separation of the drummers in this music.

10/12/68

The "Jam" before Feedback is cool - starts off in "Other One" territory, then moves to something totally original, then gets very close to "Caution" - I bet they would have gone there if Pig hadn't been missing.

Feedback... and, goodnight!

Does anyone know if the "Morning Dew" that starts the set on this recording (at least the one that Bolo posted) is from this show? It doesn't seem to be on the setlist.

On to Cal Expo!

Peace

EDIT: It looks like "Dew" was the opener, but for some reason it was left off the set list.

Here's the thing...

Today's pick was recorded over 50 years ago - half a century. In 5 decades, no other music created since then comes anywhere close to what I heard today. Normally, I'd probably add "IMHO" to the end of that last sentence. Not this time - it's an indisputable fact.

I had a non-head musician friend years ago question my over-the-top enthusiasm for the Dead, saying they were slow and sloppy, couldn't rock out, Garcia just "noodles" aimlessly, etc. In other words, the usual misinformed opinions we've all heard and read before.

I played "The Eleven" from this show for him on a really good sound system, sat back and watched his face morph from surprise to disbelief to joy and wonder. He was literally speechless for a good chunk of time before the expected "WOW" passed his lips. An instant convert! He still blames me for his "incurable disease" on a regular basis.

Gollum mentioned the drums. While one can intelligently debate the one- vs. two-drummer format from 1975 on, there is probably little dissension regarding the irreplaceable impact of Billy and Mickey abusing their instruments during the"primal" period. The whole band was a flat-out juggernaut during that time and the two drummers had a lot to do with that.

What a band. So grateful that we here all "get it."

Relisten....

....been Relistening for a while. Cool app. The right side sidebar lets you pick the source. Less clunky than the archive for sure. Sacrilege? Maybe.
10.12.68? I was five months old. Bring it to my diapers!!

Right on Bolo!

I have several buddies that still refer to it as pots and pans.
They clearly don't get it.

So much unbelievable music! Still can't explain it to even family members.

But every day, I still want to listen to the treasuries we have.

More to come.

1968 - you're fired!

This was the year that drew me in. Back in the 70s, I had heard a few albums by the Dead, but it was only after I heard Anthem that it all clicked into place. After getting into that one, all the others started to make sense.

Incidentally, it was in October, as I understand it, that Pigpen and Bob were...strange as it may now seem...sacked. And those Mickey and the Hartbeat shows were played between October and December, without either of them in attendance. I used to think that was why Pigpen didn't play on 10/12/68. But I could clearly be wrong - both he and Bob played a lot of shows with the Dead during the same period as the Mickey and the Hartbeat shows.

Today's Pick

What's on tap for today gents?

FourWinds, where are you?

I might check out 5/28/77, the last night of the Spring Tour. To Terrapin Release from 2007.

Thank You Mr. Garcia!

Yesterday's 10/12/68 pick definitely took me places.

Places I'd been before, and new places as well.

As said here by others, some really wonderful stuff going on throughout this magical show as the band jettisons into a new universe & explores the improvisational music cosmos.

By October '68 Dark Star has begun to grow larger wings, but it's still a baby bird that will take flight and leave the nest soon. Of note in this version is Bear's recording (I believe) and Mickey's playing of the "Scratcher". It sounds as though Mickey's walking around on stage while he plays, at least that's how it sounds with Headphones, the instrument is truly circling around your head in this recording. How bad ass is that? And this is a bootleg from over 50 years ago!

However, while Dark Star is just beginning to really gain strength in it's legs, St. Stephen is Standing Proud & Tall and has possibly reached it's greatest height, this is an almost absolutely perfect version of the song, and if you listen to some of the earlier versions from the summer of that year ('68 mystery reels come to mind, possibly from Carousel June '68), it's some amazing growth that this song has gone through in appx 4 months! The audience already loves this song as evident when you put on 9/2/68, within the first notes on that version the crowd starts getting so excited it throws the band off with surprise. St. Stephen, with it's William Tell Bridge, will continue to be this height for a little while longer, but will begin to diminish and shrink with age in the following year. I'm not sure it ever gets much higher than this version.

That brings us to The Eleven, I think Bolo says it best, this version can convert a non-believer. So imagine what it does to all of us already at the church. This is an absolute ripping version of the song and all the long months of rehearsal are truly evident when you listen to the effortlessness of which they throw this song down.

And to complete the suite they seg seamlessly into a sultry Death Don’t. Listen to Jerry sing during Death Don't, man could that guy sing a song with emotion. People would criticize that voice, but I always thought it was the most wonderful voice of all ;)

Oh... and there's a Set 2!!!

Which just absolutely shreds your face off, if it was still left, hanging there by a thread.

This is manic air guitar, give you the chills, tears in your eyes, shake your head in wonder stuff here people!! I want to hear it again, and again and again!

So like I said, it took me places, I dived deep into some '68 after this 10/12 relisten, I had to hear the next night 10/13/68 SBD (not as good, but see for yourself), 10/20/68 30 Trips release (check the difference between the Dark Star’s), and 9/2/68 (interesting recording, I need to check back on this, my mind was melted at this point and life distracted me).

What a Trip!

And like mentioned here, this was all during a time when Pigpen & Bobby were on thin ice and "fired" from the band.
Fascinating.

I believe a ’68 release or box set was mentioned, it’s hard to think that we’ll get one based on what exists (appx 37 shows / fragments) and quite a few have been released. Sadly most of Summer ’68 is a black hole, as well as the touring at the end of the year. There are definitely shows that were recorded that we don’t have, whether or not they still exist or not is a bigger question, I know Bear recorded more than we have especially in regard to the later part of the year, but for now the trail stops there and I’m afraid it is a bit cold…

That all being said, if there was a ’68 box style release I’d vote for The Quick And The Dead tour in January - Feb ’68. Always loved that stuff, it’d be repetitive and have some warts and all feel, but shit I love it.

Love to hear thoughts on what you all would see as potentially release worthy. This 10/12/68 show should be a definite consideration.. if they can make it sound even better I’ll be the first to drop down some cash to get it!

You’re still here?? Crazy kids..

After I came to earth from that I continued our little Cal Expo ’90 relisten and loved it too. I think 6/10/90 is my favorite show from the run, but you know Playing In The Band usually makes me say that. The Jack Straw is definitely worth listening too. And Phil saying he’s not gonna quit the band and it’s all a bullshit lie, with Jerry saying yeah, the rest of us are, well.. that’s priceless.

What’re we gonna listen to today?

Edit: 5/28/77 you say... looks promising and it's been awhile.

10/12/68

Thanks for all the great reviews of this show. I now know I will be stuck re-listening to this show for the next couple of weeks. That's the way this thread has worked for me. I can't always keep up with the daily schedule but I've gained a whole new appreciation for some shows, namely, the 2 DP #18 shows(2/3&5/78), DP#5 (12/26/79), the Cow12/31/76. It's just been taking me a couple of weeks to grok each pick. Thanks to everyone for contributing. This thread has been one of the few highlights of this lockdown!

To Terrapin

I really enjoyed revisiting this release today. I remember having some mixed feelings about it when it came out, but today it sounded fresh! I've always loved that "Sugaree", and the whole 3rd disc is pure Spring of 77 butter.

Good pick!

Peace

5/28/77 To Terrapin

I love this show. The sound quality to my ears is one of the best 77 releases to date. Jerry just seems to really be on fire the entire show. Kills it on Bertha, Sugaree is so good. New Minglewood Blues is a top 5 for me and the Brown Eyed Women is another high energy version. The Playing in the Band into Terrapin is hot. And the finish, NFA through US Blues is stellar.

I don't think this release gets a lot of talk, but it should.

And I think it is still available on this site for under $30!

Format

How about leaving a random day, perhaps Sunday, as a day to revisit that show you missed but wanted to hit and talk about or any of the other show you were behind on? A day of peace and re-visitation/re-visualation.. A chance for the slackers to peek in on a show from a few days ago they squeezed in a day or three late.

Is something like that reasonable?

A day in support of the under achievers.

I remember when E72 came out.. I think in the fall, but I more or less started on 4/7 and struggled to keep up with the anniversary dates. Hearing the post from deadheadbrewer finally pulled me out of the closet. I can do a show every two to three days unless I have time carved out, without distractions, cell phones and it helps if I am able to indulge in a bit off external stimuli, especially the kind that warps space and time. Just saying...

In other words, I missed To Terrapin and am beating myself up about it. Heaven help the fool.

Catch Up Day

Seems like a good idea Jim. The only way I am able to do this is I am still working at home.

And I don't think we can all make every show, although, I have tried. Some days I have to finish in the morning the next day.

However, the leader of this pack, Bolo, and the rest of the crew would have to give it the Thumbs Up.

And I am interested in your take on To Terrapin....

Still wonder what was going on back in 2007 to 2009 that they released some unreal stand alone shows.

Would love to see some more pop up again.

2007 - 2009 Stand Alone Releases

Ha.. my guess, they needed money.

I doubt if any of this needs to be that formal. Consensus is probably enough. A day of rest and reflection. Seems norml enough to me.

I missed 5/15/70 which was a biggie for me, and we never got around to 11/8/69 yet. I will be doing extra stimulus for both of those.. :D

Caution

I'm the last person you should seek out for advice, permission, orders or any type of instruction.

Do you recall the recent failed overthrow of the Venezuelan government? I planned that.

At 7:05 p.m. on June 12, 1980

a plume of ash billowed 2.5 miles above the Mt. Saint Helens volcano in Washington.

At 9:09 p.m. a much stronger explosion sent an ash column about 10 miles skyward.

This event caused the Portland Oregon area, previously spared by wind direction, to be thinly coated with ash.

Dead Heads who were attending the Grateful Dead's concert at Portland Memorial Coliseum still question whether the band had helped cause this while playing Fire On The Mountain that night.

Should we listen and see today?

There's a new Charlie Miller Upgrade on archive..

1980

Let's do it GOGD.

I am going to have to figure out how to use that relisten app.

I don't know Bolo, I would listen to your advice.

Jim, money money money, money money! Mama, don't take me back to rob that bank again.

6/12/1980

Okay, relisten app installed on my Sonos app. Wow, that is cool. Alabama Getaway opener sounds good.

Technical question for you all. It says it is a FLAC file. Does it really play as a FLAC file or is it MP3?

I'm always amazed

how many listen, that much. I could never keep up with the pace!! I stab at single picks with morning coffee if someone really mentions something of interest. Listening to Alabama from 80, right now. Good Bama, short only 5-ish.

But once again, main reason here, musical conversation. I will check out the "new" Charlie copy, mine is ok.

Oh, if you hate plinky keys, stay away, Brent rips ups the plinks near the end :-)

Althea Told Me..

Nice!

Definitely check out the Phase corrected SBD posted on 6/3/20 -
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-06-12.150005.sbd.phasefix.miller.fla…

Noticeable upgrade in quality for sure.
Hadn't had a chance to listen to this fix yet and it's sounding good.
Nice work as always Charlie!

Haven't checked out relisten, but I'd guess that it's playing an Mp3 file.
However, that is completely a guess.

It's Miller Time to start a Friday.
With Shakedown Stream to follow this evening with Bruce.

Not too shabby.

Happy Friday everyone!

RE: DENNIS

Plinky Keys... Hahaha!

LOL that's funny.

If you hate Plinky Keys, you're gonna have a tough time with '79-'81 ish...

Wait, when did Plinky Keys disappear?

As far as I can tell they were always a little "Plinky" throughout Brent, super Plinky in the beginning, but even '84 and on.

I will say this, Brent sounded like Brent which I believe as a musician seems to be what they're going for.. a Unique sound.

EDIT: But yeah, this one is SUPER Plinky ;)

1980, Baby!

Oh, hell yes!

I love 80, plinky keys and all! I suppose I understand why some fans don't like it, but I also feel like they are missing the forest for the trees. There are so many GREAT shows during the early part of Brent's tenure, especially 79-80. Oh well... I suppose they don't feel like they are missing anything.

I have a Google Class Meeting with my students (one of the last before summer) at 1:00 EST, so I will have to do my listening afterwards, but that just means that I can set up outside, grab some cold drinks, and really enjoy this one.

Miller Time on a Friday? I LOVE it!

I am all for a "catch-up day," but can I suggest it be a day other than Sunday? I feel like that and Saturday are more likely to be a time where we will have a better chance to all listen more-or-less together. Also, I've always believed in the mantra, "Never Miss a Sunday Show."

Question going forward - I know that when this started, the idea was to stick to official releases. Now that it has been going on, are folks ok with suggesting non-official releases? I know this has happened a few times (like today,) and I am fine with sticking mostly to the officials, but it is nice to get out there in the wilds sometimes to see what we can bring back. Plus, with the wealth of knowledge among you fine folk, I am sure that you all can show me some killer shows that I have never heard. Just a thought.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

EDIT: I checked out "Alabama>Promised Land", and yes, this Miller transfer sounds sweet!

good old and 6/12

I've always loved brent, the plinks always fit AND a B3 monster (imo).

I went back to archive for 6/12. Downloaded CM copy, I have an audience. I think this is a instance where the audience is better.

https://archive.org/details/gd1980-06-12.fob.menke.motb-0108.104967.fla…

Forget that. I just went back with the link you provided for the shiftless one. Yes much better, than the first sound board. But I guess the fob.menke one was good enough for Charlie to get a patch from.

Thanks for the heads up on archive update.

Man oh Man

This band is HOT!

Great pick! Thanks for the suggestion!!!

Peace