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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Thats_Otis
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    Warming up the Chocolate Spot...

    ... sounds kinda dirty when you put it that way, Oro... :)

    Rock on!

    Peace

  • Oroborous
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    31, bring it!
    Glad we got that Chocolate spot all warmed up for ya!

  • Thats_Otis
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    Thanks, my man! I think it sounds pretty sweet - especially that Shrine 67 LP release, played LOUD!

    Your Hershey story is great! Really wish I would have been around during those times! I would have partied right down in the mud with you!

    Not the same, but my first Phish show was at Hershey in 96. We too found a spot directly in front of the soundboard, figuring that it had to sound good there. To this day, my friends and I refer to that area at shows as "The Chocolate Spot."

    DeadVikes, everything's a-ok on this end. Thanks for the thoughts!

    So, are we on for Dave's 31 today?

    Peace

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    Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
    I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

    Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
    Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

    Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?

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    6.28.85 Hershey Park....

    ....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
    Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.

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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Where Is The Ark?

I thought we'd settled that.

The Ark is somewhere very safe.

From Whom?

The Ark is a source of unspeakable power and it has to be researched.

And it will be I assure you Dr. Broady, Dr. Jones.

Bureaucratic fools, they don't know what they've got there.

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10/15/76 Set II Is really strong, Eyes of the World>Music Never Stopped start set II, and an ending stretch of The Other One>Comes A Time>Franklin's Tower>Sugar Magnolia... One caveat is the board ends during Comes A Time, but the audience is Betrando!!! 4 days after Oakland shows... bob t

Hey Pocky Way through My Brother Esau are included as bonus footage on View from the Vault III. Great stuff.

Bird Song is hot. Maggie's Farm Cumberland, oh yeah! Stella Blue is moving. Quinn the Eskimo finish, yes!

Can anybody explain what an ultra matrix recording is? I am familiar matrix recordings (Dave's #8).

Time to do some more research on 87. A lot to offer. Don't think we will ever see an 87 Dave's Picks release, but man, it would be cool.

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DEADVIKES - Lots to see & hear in 1987.
The ULTRAMATRIX are essentially matrix tapes that Dan Healy made. Healy would record the crowd / ambience and blend that in with the SBD feed to create a more live sound. He was experimenting with it for awhile, but 1987 seems to be when he focused (exclusively?) on it, could be wrong on that. So most of the Tapes from the time period he was doing this, sound like a matrix tape with audience noise (sometimes way too much) and are called ULTRAMATRIX or ULTRAMIX.

The Spring Tour of '87 unfortunately, appears to be when Healy was figuring out how much of this ambience he wanted on the tape, and IMO those tapes tend to have too much ambience making them sound more like an Audience recording than the '85 crystal clear SBDs we'd come accustom to.

I was super stoked after Spring '87 shows to get the tapes, I wanted a dope SBD of those shows so I could see if what I thought I saw was amazing as I felt it was. So I waited and waited and waited. Never could find one, instead I had what sounded like a pretty good audience tape. Turns out it was a muddy transfer of Healy's ULTRAMATRIX recordings and the crystal clear SBD never appeared. In 2017-2019 Charlie Miller started to post some Upgrades of the ULTRAMATRIX cassette masters from I believe Joani Walker. Hopefully there's some even better transfers brewing in the Don Pearson stash that have been trickling out, I guess we'll see.

Some love em, some hate em.. yada yada. I'm still curious about whether or not in cases where what circulates is an UltraMatrix if there is also a "clean" SBD tape as well in the Vault. It would appear that the answer would be "sometimes". For example 3/26/87 what circulates is the Healy ULTRAMATRIX but there appears to also be a straight SBD of this show, which Dave L. played on Taper's Section (BTW it was DL's first show & a Charlie Miller Fave and worth checking out!). I'd love to find out that the Vault has "clean" SBDs of all these shows in addition to the ULTRAMATRIX that circulate, but I think that's probably not the case, or we'd have heard more. It's possible though, and it's probably more of a case of they have some but not all. I guess time will tell if we live long enough.

I've been trying to find out since '87 so yeah, don't hold your breath.

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Fun to watch yesterdays show as well as listen to it.
Watched VFTV III for the first part of Set 1 & YouTube for the rest.

I'd say it's a good show, but not great.
They lost me with the 2nd set LLR and for me it felt pretty routine after that.

Much better stuff earlier in the year ;)

It might've also been that I'd listened to 8/3/02 The Other Ones for the first time earlier in the day.
That was pretty far out!

It makes you think what could've been..

Speaking of LLR, 6/21/85 is playing over here and we've got a Set 1 LLR > Day Job closer. Uhh...

Fortunately I know that Estimated is a smoker, can't really remember the rest, and therefore I will relisten.

BTW any ideas on that there BOLO Contest?

Minus the plagiarized lines from Raiders, I've got nothing.

Have A Grate Day!

Nice show Deadvikes. Nothing mind blowing but a good solid 87 outing. Always enjoy Pocky Way, and Candyman too. We got an Esau in there which some don’t get, but I always liked it because it was an unusual song and a change of pace. Bird Song and TMNS to round out the first. Loved the Maggie’s>>Cumberland. Don’t think I’ve heard that combo? Don’t think I’ve heard them do Maggie’s with just JG and Bob either? I’m Used to the big 4 vocal versions post Brent. So yeah their taking it higher untiiilllll ittttt comesss backkk downnnn with LL Rain, meh,... nice solid Terrapin with JG steady and confident, not a sizzler but we’ll played. Yes after that it’s sort status quo time to bring it home, but enjoyed Stella, and Quinn is a nice alternative to the more usual encores. All in all I nice little show.
As far as Ultramatrix, some seem a little dull sounding to me, some too metally, or I guess that could just as well be the metal tape?, but for this show the one I listened to I thought was really good. Personally I’ll take a good matrix over a SB any day, cause sorry folks but a dry SB feed is not what it sounded like live! To me some of the old stuff folks go on about I think are hard to listen to, especially the vocals and often the bass.
But of course compared to most Audi’s back then the SBs are a step up, and though I’m a audiophile, I’ll take a hot show via a lesser recording than a perfectly sounding dud, but that’s just me. I guess I’ve never really been a “taper” and I don’t mean necessarily someone who actually tapes. To me it’s always been sort of a click, a club, a cultural thing. And I think their mentality has sometimes biased things in a limiting way, again, that’s just me. I love Dave, and think he does a great job, but he suffers from this bias too. Sorry, not trying to be negative and didn’t mean to ramble, just say I prefer a good matrix. Although nothing beats a multitrack from most any era!
I wonder if ULTRAMATRIX is named somehow due to the Dead/Ultra Sound relationship. Don Pearson was I believe the Meyers Ultra Sound representative with the Dead who worked closely with Healy to tweak the system etc. So I’m curious if these new Pearson matrix’s we’ve been seeing are ones he perhaps took care of some of the tape mix while Dan did his thing, or are they separate some how from Healys normal feed/mix? Definitely would love to know more about all this!
Ok, Summers here and the time is right for some 85 Dancin’ in the streets! Woo-hoo, of to Alpine!

EDIT: I think maybe y’all’s reading into Bolos post too much...sounds like he’s trying to Huck Finn your asses to come clean out his garage 😉

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Shit, I'll clean a garage if there's a shirtless Jerry having fun at a Who show picture in it.

So you think this contest is all a hoax? a put on? a trick?

Who's in Charge Here!?!?!

To flash back on those UltraMatrix. I'm not sure about Pearson's mixes being any different than what we already have. But I've been comparing the new Pearson sources that Charlie has been putting out to the UltraMatrix source we had before, and from what I can tell the source / mix is the same but the difference is in the transfer. The new transfers are way better for the most part. I think Charlie has better gear, more knowledge, etc. So the new transfers tend to sound better. That's all speculation. Charlie what do you say? And You ROCK! I might be a tape geek. Never a taper, but always a collector.

And lastly 6/21/85 is probably the weakest show in this summer run.. they give it a go, but the x factor isn't there. It'll be interesting to hear what you all think. But that's what I got again from hearing it this AM.

But it's coming... if I remember right, it's there tomorrow. Loved that tape back in the day. Looking forward to hearing it again.

Be Well All You Heads!

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No, who’s on first, the situation is in charge and I don’t mean that douchbag from Jersey!
Thanks for the info, that could be it?

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Who is on second.

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What is on second.

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Thank you for the information GOGD and Oroborous, appreciate it. Interesting stuff.

Yes, I definitely keep my eye out for the Healy Pearson combo. Since these were the guys that got this all started with OFTV. Pearson, unfortunately, is no longer with us.

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Nobody. :-P

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For President.

Come to think of it, given these crazy times, that's not a terrible idea!

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....i could do it.

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Too good not to listen to this anniversary show.... favorite of the Pacific Northwest box, and I don't usually say favorite of all time, but Birdsong falls into that category for me... be good everyone... bob t

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6/22/73, the Vancouver show. It is a monster show and great pick. On it. Thanks Bob t.

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I haven't listened to this in a while.. I think I can find the time for at least the highlights....
Thanks Bob.

I think my favorites of the PNW box were the 74 shows (surprise).. but on the reslistens there are a few shows from this box that are better played as partials and not the whole show experience. ..but to confirm, I am squarely in the release the full show corner.

Anyway.. happy Monday all. Be good have fun.

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Hey guys, we made the Almanac that was just released today! Holy shit. Check it out. We better keep rolling along. How about the Go to Nassau release, May 15 and 16 1980. Great two CD release.

Be well folks!

And 6/22/73 was a treat had to finish up this morning. Really dig the Playing in the Band, HCS. Black Peter is hot and He's Gone, Trucking. Great finish and great choice.

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Hell's Yeah.

Yesterday's revisit was indeed a trip.. 6/22/73 is a big show, full of songs, lotsa songs. But yes like you're saying DEADVIKES the biggies are what resonated with me: Bird Song (14:29), PITB (18:55), HCS (12:25), 1 of 5 Black Peter's from '73 and the first one of the year, and then the huge jam of He's Gone > Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf Rat (60 plus minutes). Those are only the jams.. who does that?!?! Deep deep dive if you take it.

Followed it up with the Anniversary revisit of 6/22/85 at Alpine Valley. Love that show, the 2nd set is seared into my memory from the teenage tape days, you can hear the band having fun between songs figuring out what's next during Set 1. Not sure it's a perfect show or anything, but I'm super fond of it and would highly recommend checking it out for all you '85 heads. What'dya think OROBOROUS?

Alright, so you're thinking May 15-16 1980 huh?

Any chance you'd be interested in checking out a couple of Miller upgrades that just popped up instead??

There's 2/15/73 or 7/18/76 I'm jonesing to check out.

https://archive.org/details/gd1973-02-15.150175.sbd-fixed.miller.flac16…
https://archive.org/details/gd1976-07-18.150187.pre-fm.miller.flac1644

LMK whatcha think and I will see what I can do :)

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7/18/76 sounds like a winner to me. I will check it out. We will save Go to Nassau for another day.

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Winner winner chicken dinner.

7/18/76 it is.

Excited to check out the new upgrade.

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Not a lot of time again today so;
6/21&22/85: good shows. Though 6/21 is good especially for a tour opener, and I think I like post drums set list better,
I think Overall I prefer 6/22. I think they were more settled and bringing it. Nice Rockin’ first set with OMSN as an exclamation point. Only to be one upped by a great Keep on Growing/Half step, and nice Sailor/Saint, Liked the Mr Fantasy before Miracle outta drums instead of other way around. Great Stella and solid, but usual ending. Hoping I’ll have time for the awesome 6/24/85 Riverbend show tonight? Actually working a few days for first time since 3/18. Usually I’d catch up here, but I wan to get done and outta here...
So probably won’t get to 7/18/76 which is a shame because it’s such a good show.(Prolly spin it up on 7/18), so I won’t pontificate on it as I covered it a bit here a few pages ago. But yeah, one of my first tapes from my early days and a all time favorite.
Really love the quick, tight segways, especially during LIG etc, and the mini drum breaks etc, awesome show!
Speaking of old/awesome early tapes, yesterday was the 40 anniversary of High School Graduation which is a good story. So do all the usual BS and it’s getting into late afternoon, the relatives are all out back for a family cook out/celebration etc, but no Pedro?...where the @#$&*$ is he?....why I’m in my room taping King Biscuit floor hour from the below mentioned Nassau shows, serendipity baby! So yeah, all my relatives are out back while I’m taping the Dead, lol. Forty years ago, yee-gads....ok, back to work. Play Dead and if you haven’t heard this show yet your in for a real treat!

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The King Biscuit Flour Hour, I just read something about how I believe that got started because of live Grateful Dead broadcasts and it might've been the 7/18/76 show that was the catalyst, don't quote me on that. But yeah.. serendipity.

I knew that 7/18/76 had been mentioned recently just couldn't remember who had mentioned it without scrolling through this here forum, so it's nice to have the confirmation that it was OROBOROUS who speaks so highly of that show. Which is indeed fantastic!

However, the recordings we have are pretty uneven in sound quality, so if the powers that be have a nice sweet recording of that show hiding in the Vault, let's get that puppy dusted off and shined up and pushed out to all the adoring fans and Let It Shine, Let It Shine, Let It Shine.

Set 2 is amazing, the final night of the triumphant hometown return of the Dead. Cool backstory on the Orpheum theater and why the Dead played there floating around on this here interweb, I'm too lazy to grab the link, but if somebody starts jonesing for that, lmk and Thanks for indulging me on that one, I needed to hear it and have done.

Alright, May 1980 Go To Nassau Coliseum, I will listen.

And happy Anniversary 6/24/85 Riverbend Coliseum, oh how I wish I would've started to see shows one year earlier, cause you would've been the one! But alas I was too young and inexperienced and probably would've freaked out.. I could barely handle it a year later. Fun to think about anyway.

Turn It On And Leave It On.

Ha.. so true Oroborous. As much as possible, I made it a point to tape the New Years Shows, The Grateful Dead Hour, anything where they were transmitting boards through the FM.

I have the 80 Nassau King Biscuit on tape still, but haven't listened to it since the 80's. After the Archive came out I gave up on my tapes. I never went back and researched what show it is, to this day I thought it was late 79.. go figure.

One new years a friend had a party and I dragged my Nakamichi along to make a good tape. I can totally relate to that story..

Solid show GOGD. Hard to believe how different they sound from July 76 versus June.
Could not find a Miller on Relisten but did find a good SBD. Sound quality isn't perfect still good. Solid B+.
Love the feel of this show, Half Step, Scarlet, hot stuff. Love the Let it Grow montage. St. Stephen! Almost feels like a 77 show and the Stella Blue is awesome.

Yeah I still have that tape. (Have all my tapes) I like to edit for fun so I broke it out a few years ago as I was trying to figure out what shows etc so I could hopefully splice together with the Go to Nassau etc. Can’t remember the details but I never finished it so must of been some issue? But back In the those old days it was crazy what we’d do for a chance at another unheard show. Some things never change!
7/18/76: actually able to sneak this one in if only on an iPad....replacing a network at a house. No one has been here in a while. Told the boss only way I’m working is in a house no ones in or been in recently, which is currently hard to find since half of Texas is here getting the locals sick. But I left the old modem and router, and 1 WAP up so I can listen while I work, which is nice. Forgot how mellow this show is, in a good way, and of course that second set is a real Bobbie Dazzler!
Hopefully I can get Riverbend in tonight, but man this working shit is harder then I remember lol. I was getting used to being “retired” 😎.

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June 10 and June 11 Boston Music Hall done, on disc 2 of Beacon Theatre 6/14, love this show!!!! quality is insane.... Nassau cd is some place in my office in a box, I just can't find it!!!! Be good everyone.... bob t

.....that second set was face melting. Jerry just attacked that Lazy Lightnin'-> Supp and beat the shit out of it. A+++

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It’s time to revisit a summer ‘85 classic
Blossom 6/25/85

All killer no filler Set 1 for sure opening with a fun Daytripper off key vocals and all. The boys are on fire on this show and the summer tour is heating up!

Buy the ticket, take the ride

Gonna try and listen to Buckey Lake 6/25/88 as well, my last 80’s show I saw.

Alright, check out Blossom ‘85 and you’ll be so glad you made it!

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For checking good old Blossom Out.

Got a good reason...
For playing this Miller board loud.

https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-25.sbd.miller.18663.sbeok.shnf

Missed this one, but I bet the Day Tripper opener blew some minds. What a crisp board too, good recording for '85. It started circulating in high quality almost immediately, I know I had it early on. I have great memories of listening to this show.

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Also, a very good show with a rare late era Comes a Time, nice long Scar>Fire and a Reuben and Cherise tease before the Tennessee Jed.

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So I am starting 6/15/76 right now because 6/14/76 Set II Beacon Theatre pulls me in every time for multiple listens..... The Playing, High Time.... Crazy Fingers... Music Never Stopped, Dancing, Help>Slipknot>Franklin's, The Wheel...... Makes this set my favorite of the box.....after 3 listens to set II, I have escaped!!!! Thanks for listening me rant about this set again, I think I did when it first came out......Debating about getting box set, listen to the quality of this show!!!! Be good everyone Bob t
P.S. I know Playing is from the first set, Disc 2 and 3 are amazing!!!!!!!!

Had a good time with this release. Sound quality is A+ and it still sounds really good almost 20 years later. The Franklins Tower is really good. Nice Lazy Lighting Supply. China Rider! I am always a sucker for Lost Sailor-SOC. Playing UJB! I love 1980!

So 6/25/85 for today? I will check it out

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Posted a few days ago that there is a new Charlie Miller upgrade for Dane County Coliseum... Just put Dark Star on.... my question will the famous "pop" still be on this version!!!! Could be a perfect friday pick of the day...... I feel if this gets released on Dave's that it would be in release 1 for the year..... I will edit once i hear if the "pop" is in the new version... bob t

Edit...... and the answer is.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................yes it is!!!!! Right before the first verse!!!! Whew I wouldn't know what to do!!! Have a good weekend everyone, be safe. bob t

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The famous "pop" is still in the new Charlie Miller 2/15/73 Dane County Coliseum Dark Dark star... i have no idea why my post looks like it does... Good Old Grateful dead posted about this upgrade a few days ago... Good pick of the day for today... bob t

Bob T it's good to see that you're still coloring outside the lines..
You non-conformist you!
Well done.

I'm hip to what you're laying down and it's in my pile of stuff to listen to, so 2/15/73 you say?

Did notice some static in Loose Lucy that's not on the Menke version, so I'm curious what's going on with this new Source / Upgrade. Sounds like you're on your way, keep your reporters hat on, deadline is at 4:30pm PST so we can get it to press before Shakedown Stream.

Deadvikes - Good call on Go To Nassau, those are some hot shows! Isn't that the Althea that Al Franken was saying is his favorite? It's a damn good one. Nice compilation by Dave L, would love for the full shows to be released. I wonder how many times those two statement occur together?!?!? hahaha. I'm curious about the source of the tapes they used on that, I believe what I have for the full show is a Betty Board, I wonder what source they used from the Vault. So many questions but sounds like different mixes.

DL let's catch up soon so I can ask you about all this stuff, miss you bro, and what's the next Dave's Pick?!?!
I'm calling Pigpen Era or Brent Era, we've had our two Donna & Keith Era for the year.
Hoping for Pigpen Era.

Don't give up Hope ;)

Coffee is working, might have to get stuff done. I had a lot to discuss this week in regards to what I've heard, but was too lazy or depressed to type it out, this global pandemic and America's flailing about without proper leadership is bumming me out.

So I took some music as medicine and Blossom '85 yesterday was really a good trip, Jerry's voice is shot, but the band is really catching fire as the tour progresses. I've always loved that show it's like an old friend. Also read some cool stuff about this band and it's community that was real interesting.

Another day I find myself alive..

Have a Grate Day!

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I can't keep up with you die-hard Heads and listen to a show a day, but I do pop in here to read your wizard thoughts and observations. Fear not for July 18th, 1976! I distinctly remember Dave mentioning that that show exists in The Vault [angelic chorus suddenly bursts forth with, "AHHHHHHH!!!!"] in multi-track, and that he would get that show out one day. This comment was made when he was discussing the release of Dap18, which is 7/16-17/76.

[the fly returns to the wall]

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And the rain poured.

DEADHEADBREWER - That's the news I wanted to hear in regards to that and I liked your sound effect, perfect.

Thank you :)

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Good to see you Deadheadbrewer! I have heard that as well that the show exists in Multi Track! Look forward to that.

6/25/85. Fun start with Day Tripper. 85, definitely not Jerry's high water mark. Must have been hard for the band, when your engine is failing. You can hear the continued deterioration. I saw it live in 86 just two weeks before the coma. Thank God for his recovery.

Be well folks and everybody hang loose.
Looking forward to 10/2/87 tonight.

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We need a Pick. Otis? Jimbo?

Send us a pick.

Watched a portion of the 10/2/87 show last night. Man, they were on fire for those Shoreline shows in October of 87. I will wait the rest tonight.

Who made it to those shows?

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We don't want you falling on somebody else, you do what yourself what you want man..

Another classic from summer '85?

Great Pick Yesterday Bob T!
Pick was sublime, February '73 is some of my favorite Dead, just love it.
Love the "pop" / sonic squawk in Dark Star and you're right it wouldn't be the same without it, but I'm pretty sure that puppy is baked in and went out to all that day over the PA.

2/9/73 & 2/15/73 really should get the release treatment, but then we have these great recordings of them already, and there's soooo much stuff that we might not have.

Fun to think about.
Any calls on when we'll get that Next Pick announcement?
Is the excitement building?

So many questions.

Fun to think about.

6/27/85 is getting a spin over here as we speak.

And remember.. Don't Hang Off The Balcony!