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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #2111
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    The most valid argument I have heard was posted a few years ago by a guy who owns (or owned) a used record store. He was very clear in stating that the music from the 60s and 70s sold much faster and at higher prices than the later years. TPTB don’t care about your favorite era or which ones you think are underrepresented. They are in the business of selling music.

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    ....shipping notice received.

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    I think this song is absolutely fantastic! The lyrics are so cool. The version on the original mix of Aoxomoxoa sounds so much better then the remixed version. The Dead only played it one time live in 1969. What a cool tune.

  • #2114
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    I don’t believe that I intentionally provide contrary opinions just to stir the pot, although my opinions are not always shared by the majority.
    Regarding the future release of shows, I do have a theory I’ve not heard. And that is, it seems to me most of the hardcore ‘60’s/early ‘70’s fans are on the older side of folks on this site. Since those of us(let’s say 60 & older) will likely not live as long as the rest, get those early releases out to those fans while you can. For the younger fans(who DO seem to be most vocal about ‘80’s/‘90’s shows), they’ll be around longer, and Dave will be able to keep the releases coming for a lot longer period of time.
    I’m not one to argue which is better, because better is what YOU prefer, and it varies. I think that for us older folks, we may prefer earlier shows because that’s when we got on the bus.
    And the same goes for the younger, “later years” folks. I agree that a great show from ANY year is worth having, but the current model is perhaps best for longevity.
    In any case, keep ‘em coming!!
    I need MORE shows!!

  • #2115
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    … Got email about a 6 night stream run of Joe Russo (Oct 2017 run). You can watch all 6 nights for 60 bucks. Went looking to see if I had shows in stock and didn't. Just for the hell of it went to Nugs to see what a download of show would cost as mp3. Damn things were FREE!!! Maybe it's just the audience recording that's out on the archive, maybe not. Only listened to 2 seconds before I said, it's FREE, and started the download. Don't know how many ever go there but I've been pleasantly surprise several times by what I can get from them free. But if you like JRAD, here's 6 free ones!

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    74 DS etc, boo-yah!!!!! Hopefully then International sooner than later...really stoked for this one!

    80s: I’m down with anything that’s a KILLER SHOW that SOUNDS GOOD for the APPLICABLE FORMAT. (apples to apples, not apples to Oranges, why bother?)
    Personally that criteria is more important than others. Of course there’s nothing like a full Norman Beatty board etc, but I can get just as high off a 80s Matrix that fulfills this criteria. Alas, though there are many great shows, quality sources of course are the issue. But I bet there’s more in the vault from the 80s/90s then perhaps we know. Not a ton, but enough that one way or another, they could give us somewhat regular offerings.
    The wild card of course is the fall 80 shows (are there usable tapes or not?), and there is a bunch of great shows still from second half of 89 on multitrack....SPECTRUM 89 Dave Por Favor!!
    Other WC is are there early 80s Beatty’s etc....perhaps this has been answered definitively here and my self induced senility has removed from memory, (please pardon if so), but my recollection is that there is confusion and unknown about this?...

    I still think if they tried the matrix approach, they could perhaps up the useable material spectrum?. Plus, as more Don Pearson tapes surface, theoretically there could be some shows that could perhaps get a Vulcan mind meld of some sort of Healy-Pearson, or Healy-Pearson-Audience matrix? Hey, a girl can dream eh!
    90s: ...curious if they multi-tracked at all for possible live set at any point? I’ve enjoyed the 91 releases and most sound good to awesome...
    Hey if nothing else, most of the stuff we’ve gotten from the 80s and 90s has been enjoyable enough, regardless of source. “A little bit o something is better than all of nothing”....(please excuse if I’ve missed something?)
    1980:
    1 - RT 3.4 (5/7& p/o 6/80): Great
    2- Go to Nassau: great, but chop job
    3- 9/2/80: great but supposedly only that last part is in vault?
    4- DL V7 (9/3&4/80): decent
    5- 10/9&10/80 Acoustic: Awesome! Is there more??
    6&7- Go to Heaven & Reckonong: Great. is there more?
    8- 30T (11/28/80): great
    9- DaP 8 (11/30/80) great
    So of course, what about Gainesville? or.....
    8/30/80 & 10/14/80: these are listed on that Dave’s wish list? that someone reposted here not to many months ago from when Dave’s first started.....
    1981:
    1- DP 13 (5/6/81): good
    2- 30T (5/16/81) good, but should of used next night in Syracuse, smokin! Jer’s on fire!
    3- DaP 20 (12/9/81: decent? Wonder about this show choice....like how’s bout,
    9/26/81? He’s played this one on XM etc numerous times?
    Plenty of great 81 shows, what about sources?
    1982:
    1- RT 4.4 (4/6& p/o 5/82): good
    2- 30T 7/31/82: good
    3- DP 32 (8/7/82: good
    1983:
    1- DaP 27 (9/2/83): good
    2- DP 6 (10/14/83): Great show, don’t feel the recording does it justice.....but I’m biased on this one...
    3- 30T (10/21/83): good or ? not familiar enough yet with this one...
    1984:
    1- 30T (10/12/84): great
    10/9/84 & 11/2/84 are on that Dave’s list?
    1985:
    1- 30T (6/24/85): awesome
    2- DP 21 (11/1/85): Good, but so many better 85 shows....
    1- 1986: 30T (5/3/86) haven’t heard this one yet...
    1987:
    1- G.B. (7/12/87): awesome
    2- Vault View 4 (7/24&26/87): awesome
    3- 30T (9/18/87): haven’t heard yet...
    - VV 3 Bonus (10/3/87): good
    4- NYE DVD (12/31/87): good
    1988:
    1- DL 5 (3/27/88): awesome show, mediocre recording?
    2- RT 4.2 (4/1 & p/o 3/31/88): great
    3- 30T (7/3/88): great
    7/29/88 on Dave’s list?
    1989:
    1- DL 9 (4/2&3/89): good shows, mediocre sound
    2- DVD/CD 7/4/89: awesome!
    3- DVD/CD 7/7/89: awesome!
    4- G.B (7/8&9/89): awesome!
    5- RFK (7/12&13/89): great
    6- DVD (7/17/89) awesome show, needs upgrade, and where’s the rest of Alpine?
    7- Warlocks (10/8&9/89) awesome!
    8- NFoD (10/16/89): awesome! Most underrated GD live release imho...
    9- 30T (10/26/89): awesome!
    What about Philly!
    1990: tons of great shit released already...
    1991: 6+ shows, all good or better...
    6/22/91 & 9/26/91 on Dave’s list?
    1992: 2+: both good
    1993: 2+: decent
    3/27/93 & 9/13/93 on Dave’s list?
    1994&95: only 1 per year (30T): haven’t gotten to these yet...
    Ready or Not: good/decent performances ...most sounds good....perhaps there is at least a usable show or 2?

    So yes, many years underrepresented, and yes, good sources harder to come by, but as this list shows there are perhaps more possibilities available then one might think. So if their at least this good, keep em coming Dave! And thanks for all the great shows no matter what year!

  • #2117
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    Every time we start talking about later era releases

    Its obvious that there is a lot of pent up demand for later era releases. If sound quality from the cassette masters is a hold up, then perhaps a lower tier budget line of releases is called for. Call it Dave's Discount Picks. Available for download or CDs printed up on demand.

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    I for one certainly hope this will continue to be the slot of the year we're we get an early 1980s show, gosh know we haven't gotten many! Obviously, Dave picks are completely biased to 1969-1978- but I would think #35 will fill the early 1980s slot for the year. If you think about it not even half way through 2020, and Dave etc. has already completely overdone(imho) the 1970s period yet again....so far this year already: 5- shows from 1976, 1.5 shows from 1974, and yet another show from 1977. You know we are also going to get companion live 1970-1971 shows for the 50th anniversary deluxe editions of Amer Beauty & Workmn Dead. SO JUST MAYBE we can fit in both Dave Picks(35-36) as an unprecedented two(!) 1980s dave picks in 2020...of course it's never happened- but one can hope!

    I think #35 could be 3-9-81, I would prefer 3-10-81...or just ANY 1981. I think the hopeful favorite for an early-80s pick is 7/13/84, we'll see ; )

    Now one caveat to my comments, maybe we have been inundated with mid-1970s releases in the first half of 2020 because the rumors are true, and the 2nd half of 2020 will produce the other box set for 2020 - FALL 1980! This box set will of course need time to breath per Dave, just as 1976 did

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    That’s a good sounding recording. And I really like the Deep Elem.

    No 70’s fatigue at my house, but I like all years and am on board with some variety.

    So Dave, let’s get 10-31-91 Normanized and released.

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    Agree, 22,000 seems like a good number and #33 took about a month to sell out, which, like others have said is a good development for the ala cart buyers.
    74 or 77 fatigue? I don't think so.
    9 years of Dave's Picks has shown us one thing for sure, this series is primarily 70s and 60s releases with a few early 80s.
    I don't think we will see a 91 show released as a Dave's Pick.

    I would love to see more later era shows released, but it just is not going to happen with Dave's Picks.

    They have released a few 89 shows as stand alone releases, think Nightfall of Diamonds, Trucking up to Buffalo, CW&I.

    Release more of these shows as stand alone releases, or how about trying out the digital downloads again? It has been 14 years, might be time to try again and they could tailor it to the later era.

    Be well all.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 08:02

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. How’s it hanging! Hope all is well 👌🏻

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 09:46

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So can we buy it or what?

I wanna keep it forever and ever...

Old school, I know but streaming isn't permanent.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 10:07

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I wonder if they will put a physical copy out of this.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 10:42

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....very interesting. Stream only format. 2 1/2 hrs. Only 4 minutes deadicated to Cumberland though :(

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 10:45

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Agreed, don't see it anywhere.

I like physical copies also. NOTHING streams forever.

If it's being given away, send us a link to a mp3 location. (at minimum)

Maybe at the very minimum, send a link to DaP subscriptions. (oh, that maybe a little self serving, sorry)
But I have no fear, a link will be provided AND a resourceful Head will get them down and out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 11:25

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They said they found these in a bunch of unlabled boxes, maybe 6/17/75 and 6/11/69 were also in those boxes, or maybe more live 1970 shows.

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Submitted by LedDed on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 13:35

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Nice synchronicity of having to listen to that slab of pure cheese in the dentist's office, because whenver I hear "Summer of '69" it's like having a tooth pulled.

I listen to classic rock radio in the background all day at work. I can't be too engaged in it, like constantly selecting and changing music, etc., so the local rock station just plays songs all day long. It's mostly ok, hell, they even play the Dead every once in awhile even if it's usually "Touch Of Grey."

Probably the cheesiest, absolutely most cringe-inducing vehicle of sonic crappiness has to be Bruce Springsteen's, "Born In The USA." The keyboards are the cheesiest ever, and the Boss wailing over it in that I've-really-got-to-take-a-dump voice of his is just too much, not to mention the full-on patriotic velveeta of the lyrics.

There are a few others that rankle me, like anything by Bon Jovi, but I think "USA" takes the cake.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 13:48

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I fully agree with ledded. The most puke inducing music on the planet. Especially 'thunder road'.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 14:57

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....did you know he was a draft dodger? Born In The USA ok. But won't fight for it. My 2 cents.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 15:06

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Ever see the Burns Doc 'The Vietnam War'? I wouldn't want to fight in that shit either. Government lies to you and knows it can't win, yet drafts it's young men into the meat grinder. Sign me up! :-P

Not a huge fan of Springsteen's music, but until your number comes up you never know what you will do.

This my country right or wrong jingo bullshit is how we ended up where we are now. Cough cough. USA!

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 15:57

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I would think that Bruce Springsteen has quite a few rivals in the awful record category in classic rock. Pity they don't have station for real rock n' roll. Or maybe surreal rock n' roll.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 17:03

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Born in the USA....now I’m no Bruce fan, yes he’s a good entertainer, and he wrote some good songs, but his actual talent as a musician etc is limited, and that band sounded like a wedding band, not a R&R band. But.....But, I really enjoyed his mostly solo On Broadway special. You could actually hear the lyrics and he is a good entertainer and story teller. He ought to perform like that all the time. And I’m not sure, but I believe Born In USA is actually an anti USA song not a wave that flag,....I think?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 17:14

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Yes, I have heard that it was subversively a protest song. Looking at the lyrics I don't know how that could have been. It's quite obvious when you read them. Maybe since the only words anyone could probably understand was the refrain was why it became misunderstood as a 'patriotic' song. :-)

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Submitted by LedDed on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 18:18

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I would like to add, I respect Springsteen as a songwriter. Like it or not, feel a part of it or not, he has given voice to a great number of Americans. I'm kind of iffy about that voice in totality, but I'm a big fan of songs like Cover Me, I'm On Fire, Brilliant Disguise, State Trooper (chilling!), Radio Nowhere and others.

It's a mixed bag and he's so prolific, I'd probably say I'm a real fan of 5 to 10 percent of his recorded output. Saw him live right after 9/11, and he only played like two hits and they were the cheese! Born To Run and the aforementioned nationalist jingo "USA." He'd just released that political album and spent so much time on the soapbox. Yes, I agree with his politics, but it was such a drag! We bought those tickets to go rock out live not attend a partisan rally.

The best songs are full of ambiguities and sometimes the writers themselves change their mind about what the words mean over time, and this is a good thing. "USA" touches on the horrors of war, but also that chorus was like a redneck Chevy truck commercial.

No matter. You don't generally get where Bruce is without learning a hell of a lot about your craft, working very hard and earning your connection to your audience. No disrespect to the Boss or any of his fans - I just can't take the "cheese."

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Submitted by The Outer One on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 19:51

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Our 4th of July if you were wondering. Eh.

Have a grateful weekend averyone and stay safe.

PS. Sounds like hockey is on it's way for those still interested! Can't wait!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 20:45

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Yeah, yeah, I agree, He supposedly has these great lyrics, but you can’t understand them especially over the smashing garbage can lids and Casio toy keyboard, or the overly eq’d piano., and three guitars mostly playing nothing....shit sounds like a wedding band to me, and no disrespect to the big man, but he wasn’t no Coltrane.... that’s why I dug that Solo On Broadway we saw on Netflix....you could actually hear the lyrics and he’d sometimes set up the songs or meanings. I’ve never been a fan, but in this format he was awesome!

EDIT: Happy Canada Day to our fine brothers and sisters in the great white north! (Cue the beer hunter music from the Great White North movie with Bob and Doug, hosers! ) Hey, I’m part Canadian so I can say that lol

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 07/01/2020 - 20:53

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Hey Dennis & Billy The Kid...check your PM's....

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Today I had to drive into town (Flagstaff, AZ 90 miles one way) to pick up a new external Hard Drive as one of my drives ate it a couple of days ago...it was an 8TB drive that I've had for a few years...I learned the hard way about ten years ago of backing up the back ups so no music was lost, only time & Ca$h...my drive takes me through Ponderosa Pine forests as I climb up and over the south end of the San Francisco Peaks, but even at that altitude and forest we're pretty much considered high desert...so I played this anniversary show, a Hunter Seamons Matrix...

GRATEFUL DEAD
SEATTLE CENTER COLISEUM
SEATTLE, WA
JULY 1, 1979

JERRY GARCIA - Lead Guitar, Vocals
MICKEY HART - Drums
BILL KREUTZMANN - Drums
PHIL LESH - Electric Bass, Vocals
BRENT MYDLAND - Keyboards, Vocals
BOB WEIR - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals

CD ONE
1 - TUNING (3:47)
2 - MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO > (8:31)
3 - FRANKLIN’S TOWER (13:33)
4 - MAMA TRIED > (2:34)
5 - MEXICALI BLUES (5:55)
6 - PEGGY-O (9:53)
7 - MINGLEWOOD BLUES (8:25)
8 - STAGGER LEE (8:12)
9 - EL PASO (5:50)
10 - BROWN EYED WOMEN (7:15)
11 - PASSENGER (5:51)

CD TWO
1 - TUNING (2:00)
2 - DON’T EASE ME IN (5:09)
3 - SAMSON AND DELILAH (11:32)
4 - SUGAREE (16:38)
5 - TERRAPIN STATION > (12:03)
6 - PLAYING IN THE BAND > (13:53)
7 - DRUMS > (9:27)

CD THREE
1 - SPACE > (3:43)
2 - STELLA BLUE > (10:42)
3 - TRUCKIN’ > (9:29)
4 - AROUND AND AROUND (11:10)
5 - SHAKEDOWN STREET (8:40)

Mission successful ...new drive in hand and my ears are ringing...

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 02:54

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Nappyrags, thank you for sending me that information on the Workingmans dead outakes. I tried to send you a pm back about it , but I don't know that it went through. I downloaded the file you sent me but my Kindle Fire would'nt let me open it. I'm not very computer savy, so it's probably something I did wrong. I'm much better with a pick and shovel then I am with a computer. Anyways, thanks again man.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 03:17

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Thanks JRF,,,, let me wipe the tears, there, better. Great cover, great guitar by Tom. A few years back there was a special "music cares". They had people doing Bruce songs, while thanking him. Anyway, Tom Morello and Jim James (from My Morning Jacket), knock this bitch out of the park with jamming at the end. (Alabama Shakes did an incredible job on Adam Raise a Cain)

All the Bruce talk yesterday and it seemed not much Bruce love here :-) I like Bruce (I have to, I'm from Jersey), but really I found Bruce at a low point in my life and his songs gave me hope. And Darkness on the Edge of Town, maybe his best album. The River next. (is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worst). His happier songs (bouncy?) remind me of the roller rink, and I grew up there. :-)

Tonight I'll be on that hill 'cause I can't stop,
I'll be on that hill with everything I got,
With lives on the line where dreams are found and lost,
I'll be there on time and I'll pay the cost,
For wanting things that can only be found
In the darkness on the edge of town.

Nappy - Thanks for email, down and done. FYI - I too just bought a new HD. Got a 10tb Seagate. My old one didn't croak, but I outgrew (kinda). In any event, now I got some working room :-)

We got any old main frame computer people out there? IBM 360 days. The old 2314's disk units were 30 meg drives and they were about the size of a washing machine and ran 200,000 bucks each. Today 10TB sits on the corner of my desk!!! Progress!!

Final Jeopardy question - Is a 10 TB drive heavier when full?

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 03:38

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I was actually watching a concert on blu ray with Bruce Springsteen in the band earlier this week - the so called Black and White Night by Roy Orbison. Bruce sings back up vocals and plays perfectly adequate rhythm guitar. He doesn't come off too well trading solos with James Burton-but apart from Albert Lee, I can't think of anyone who would.

He also co-wrote the immortal Because the Night with, and of course sung by Patti Smith. One of the great singles of the late 70s. I have never heard any of his albums though. The bits and bobs I have heard by him with his band don't sound too promising, I have to say.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 07:29

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Well, you all have forced me to chime in. My first reaction to the negative Springsteen dialogue was to get defensive. Thankfully, I remembered that we all don’t have to like the same music all the time. I dislike a number of bands discussed here, but never felt a great need to bring it up.
I was mid-late teens when Bruce released his first few albums, so lyrically, I could relate( a LOT). Being an east coast kid helped also(I believe). He is not a technically great musician, but as a showman, I put him way, way up there. Some of my favorite parts of his shows were the between song stories he told. I could really relate. And this “wedding band” stuff. I don’t agree, but usually, when people slam stuff they don’t like or understand, they use these typically pejorative generalizations.
I always loved his use of organ & piano live, it sounded fantastic to me. And the band had at times, a stone heavy “Neanderthal” thump, which I also liked. In any case, after The River album, I was pretty much done with Bruce, I no longer related as much to the lyrics, and he did get REAL poppy.
Sometimes I think one has to hear an artist at just the right time & place to “get it”.
It was good to hear from DAVEROCK, who’s opinion I always respect. I believe that some bands don’t cross over well, UK to US, and vice-versa. Not sure why, but it may be culturally driven. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE , a ton of UK & European bands, yet others, I just don’t get. No big deal I suppose.
We (thankfully) are all allowed to like & dislike whatever bands we choose. In this forum, we generally share a lot of the same likes. So, I don’t really feel the need to defend Bruce, I still pretty much only listen to the first 5 albums.
But it’s in the WAY that some folks deride, that shows a bias & maybe even a little bitterness.
When it comes to music, I’m only about beauty, love, and especially, discovery.
That Tom Joad clip gave me goose flesh, and the lyrics are so appropriate TODAY!!

P.S. one of my favorite things about music is I get to listen & love so many different styles. The Beatles, GFR, Black Sabbath, Miles Davis, Cream, Steppenwolf, John Coltrane, Terry Riley, XTC, The Grateful Dead(!!), Bill Frisell, Johnny Cash, The Carter Family, Steve Reich, Kraftwerk, Iron & Wine, James Gang, Deep Purple, Doc Watson, Steve Marcus, Jack DeJohnette...I really could go on for days.
Music is the BEST!!!!!!
C’mon WD 50th, and Dave’s 35!!
Stay safe and healthy all.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 08:21

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Well said. I'll never understand why some feel the need to shit on things, especially something so subjective as music, ... other than they love to get a negative reaction from others. It's gotten pretty thorny around here lately.

We all learned it through fairy tales, but it still holds true today: Don't feed the trolls.

Peace

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 09:44

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Born In the U.S.A.--Incredibly powerful ANTI-jingoist song. The fact that it comes across as a wrap-your-head-in-the-flag anthem is part of its brilliance. The song is actually coming down on jingoists who exhort us into war, then crap all over the soldiers by voting for politicians who strip away veteran benefits.

Please listen to Bruce's first two albums, THEN tell me you don't care for him! :)

Has he gotten schlocky since Tunnel of Love? In my mind, yes. But to discredit everything through Tunnel is a bit drastic. Not many rockers put out great albums for decades and decades . . . and check out some of his 70s live shows. Wow.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 10:47

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Dennis, thank you very much. I hope you have a great day.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 11:04

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Mr Ones - spot on as usual. It seems true that music I have liked for decades is at least partly due to the time and place when I first heard it. Maybe great music needs a receptive listener to make it truly make it great. And to criticize an artist shows the limitations of the listener rather than the musician concerned.
A lot of music I liked as a teenager still sounds great to me - but if I played it to one of my friends who is over 60, who had never heard it before, I am sure they wouldn't get it. Albums like "Electric Warrior" Paranoid" and "Space Ritual" weren't made with retired people in mind. But if you were 16 and its 1973...
I would also agree that some music travels better abroad than others.

Billy the Kid...thanks for posting that clip showing Jerry jamming with James Burton. Great stuff - I have never seen that before.

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 11:28

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Still waiting for Dap 34. It's a bummer. 63 days have gone since shipping.
Having a Hebedanz Anna-Fest Bier to compensate.
Just Listened to 1971-07-02, Fillmore West. It was also a great year. I really enjoyed!!!
Gerd

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Submitted by deadegad on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 12:22

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Yes it is not really jingoist, Born in the U.S.A., and I do like Bruce S.. Yet I do understand that not everyone does. Criticism is fine and often funny. That Lee Greenwood song is not really jingoistic either but rather it is just kind of corny. No offense intended to anyone.

P.S. Bruce's Gypsy Biker is quite a good anti-war song (Iraq) and very moving.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 12:54

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Good call! Man, it's been forever since I tuned that one in. Probably on tape, an early show to my collection.

Thanks for mentioning.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/02/2020 - 13:14

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Shipping notice 5/26. Actually shipped 6/22. I was watching the street, but missed the mail carrier, so it sat for a spell in a black mailbox in the direct sun on the hottest, sunniest MN day yet this summer. Hope the vinyl didn't melt! #2017.

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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Fri, 07/03/2020 - 09:14

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Hello, I recently got a Spring 1990 The Other One Box except it came without the 144 page book. I was wondering If anyone had an extra book they would be willing to sell me here. I see individual shows from this set posted on eBay from time to time so assume they may be out there. If you got an extra or know where to find one please PM me. Many thanks

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/03/2020 - 09:55

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Big Hello to JRF and thanks for that awesome TJ with Morello. One of those instances when it caught me off guard and just right.

BILLY THE KID: ditto, thanks for the awesome postS. Can you see how happy Jerry was? I swear as magnificent as the Dead is I sometimes feel I’d rather watch JG with other folks in low profile situations, which is what I did for a while after your Sweetwater songs. Los Lobos, Santana, you name it he could step in and just fly. Think back to all the awesome projects he was working on in the later years that had little or nothing to do with the Dead and it’s really quite a list of really great stuff. As has been speculated before.....have to wonder what might of been if they would have just taken some time off and/or not toured so much. Did the Dead inadvertently kill Jerry?...

6/21/84: I was there, and don’t recall much except we dropped right on the international border going over the peace bridge, and yeah, that was a blistering Scarlet/Fire, oh and the Band was good, and fun on the encores including I think my first Big Boss Man?

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