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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1261
    rockthing
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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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    There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
    The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:05

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I love that this board has gone more into the archives. I love the official releases, but there are so many gems in the ol' mine that sticking to just the releases exclusively would mean missing out on shows like this.

Hooking it up to the stereo, hitting play, and spending as much of the day in the AC as possible. It is brutal around these parts... but a good book and a good show make it bearable. I hope everyone had a great July 4th weekend!

Peace

This show might just be the most-listened to show in my listening history. I think it is so much fun, it is near the top of the list of shows I wish i had attended. Enjoy!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 18:58

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hi everybody!! sorry, its been awhile posting, but i check in all the time on this oasis of friendship and good cheer.
Pittsburgh 87 was one of only 4 east coast shows i saw (Hampton 88 the other three). I'd seen the Alpine shows, then went fishing with Dad and brother in Canada. just got back day before show. left Chicago area at dawn. for some reason took the scenic route, driving some US highway rather than the interstate. got a speeding ticket as I crossed into Ohio (65 to 55 speed trap) - boo. as i said goodbye to the kind officer i asked him how far to Pittsburgh? he looked at me funny - Pittsburgh??? long long day driving, lots of winding roads i think as i got further east but somehow made it to the arena. back in those days i would get to some confusing unknown city and just follow the cars that looked like they knew where they were going. just now flashed on a bumper sticker i saw wandering the lot that evening unwinding before the show -
CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN
yeah, for real
it was a heart of gold night. mail order ticket, might have been a GA show, but I was in the second level stage left. surrounded by kind strangers. more than a few empty seats in the arena i think. relaxed. really fun first set. remember Desolation Row as big cool surprise.
and then that SHAKEDOWN - holy shit!!!! Jerry scat singing!! Phil!! craziness!! out of body rush just thinking about it!!
and then "We ran into some of our friends the Neville Brothers" and its like you have got to be freaking kidding - Iko > Day-o > Women Smarter!! still have a dream vision of the stage during Day-O. yeah it was like a dream! coming out of space the whole place was buzzing with dylan energy, that bob d would join them. close. he was there in spirit. the knockin on heaven's door was one of the most righteous dead moments i ever witnessed. another vision of the stage as it lead to the first verse - unearthly blue/green lighting, the Nevilles, shadowed, slowly joining the boys. tears in my eyes. great good lovin set closer. then johnny b goode. super energy. smiles everywhere.
at some point during the drive that afternoon i'd wondered what the heck i was doing. i left that show filled with contentment and happiness. of course i'm totally lost when i try to find my way out of town. most traffic long gone. i'm at a stop light, drifting in my own thoughts, when I look to my right and a couple of officers in a patrol car are 5 ft away giving me the real hairy eyeball. seconds from big trouble. I lean over, roll down the window, and ask Hi - which way to Ohio? the expression of the officer at the wheel suddenly goes from doom to Sure, let me help! Ohio? you take a left at this light! I'm like Great!! Thank you!! seconds later light turns green, i turn left, and make my getaway across some bridge. whew. at some early am rest area i remember a fellow traveler asking if I was headed to Roanoke. sigh. the answer was no - heck I didn't even know the next shows were in Roanoke. 10 years later i got to know shannon way out west. and she was from virginia and yeah the roanoke shows were way hot!! as for me, the next shows i saw were Red Rocks
i'm listening to the Zaleski version on relisten right now - it sounds freaking fantastic, amazing pull, highly recommend!!
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912
man, '87 was a fun year, with the newly re-energized Jerry. this brings back a lot of sweet memories.
stay healthy and be safe!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 19:54

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More a relation to timing, cash flow and where I was in college at the time, but I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. Plus.. I was kind of freaked by the 86 coma, which lead to full throttle 87 and Pittsburgh was less than two hours from where I was living at the time.

I was there and it was a hoot. I was just beginning to know what the Nevilles were all about.

What I remember from the whole thing was first that Jerry was looking and sounding better as the year went on. Second.. I was there with a bunch of college buddies and I could not wait long enough to ditch them and spend most of the show alone, just me and my girlfriend at the time. Something about people you don't know that well, that probably aren't that into the dead anyway talking while you are finding your footing is really annoying. So by Row Jimmy we had separated from anything resembling the crowd we arrived with and had achieved lift off.

I have not listened to this since I was there until today. What a nice road trip and both brings back memories and reminds me how little I still remember. I do remember the Neville's centric second set and the drive back home a good bit.

Well, that's the best I can recall.

Oh, this might have been the day or the we ek that In the Dark was released. At first I was ecstatic, later deflated.. it was the beginning of the end of sorts.. We were no longer a small town, under the radar thing. It was so much more fun when were were under the radar.

Oh.. and Otis.. it was hot as balls here today, and we are usually 10 to 15 degrees cooler than you. Great day on the river though. This working less stuff is a ok with me.

CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN. Truly the funniest thing I have heard all month. Hilarious, I want one of those stickers!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 21:59

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Jim and Bluecrow, thanks for sharing your memories of the Igloo! Really cool. Jim, yes, I do know what you mean, about the changes that occurred after In the Dark. The Dead achieved big time success, which I think was great for them, but of course it changed the scene forever.

The ultra matrix I pulled up on Relisten was marginal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

Official releases versus bootlegs. I will say, this site would not exist if it wasn't for the official releases. Professional recordings, mixing and mastering take a ton of time and effort and in most cases sound way better than unofficial releases. If they didn't, Grateful Dead Productions and Rhino would not brother with these releases. I am sure glad they do, it has been tons of fun.
I have also been surprised how good some of the shows on The archive or Relisten sound. Miller seems to do a fantastic job, however, it is still no guarantee that the recordings themselves were very good.

Long live the Vault!

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What a fun night!

The Scene:
We'd gotten home from Alpine and kicked around for a week or so and then headed over to Pittsburgh for our last taste of the Dead for the summer of '87. I guess it was a Monday night, but felt like a party. The only time we stayed in a hotel, and a bunch of our friends from Ohio had the room nextdoor. The rooms had a connecting walk through party door and we walked through it and partied all night long! It was off the hook. I can't remember if that was planned or coincidence, but feel like we didn't know until we got to the room. The hotel was taken over by Dead Heads and a party raged the whole time before and after. There was a Park & Eat diner up the road and we went there in shifts throughout the night, high out of our minds, laughing and shit like we were on a different planet, and we were. All these stoned out hippies flooding the place. We made up all these names for it, the barf & puke, the stop & ralph, we were rolling. I think there was a pool and the balcony circled around the pool.. but yeah it was 33 years ago, and we were all blotto.

The Music:
You ever been to a show with a friend and the band plays ALL of their favorites? That was this night for me and my buddy Walling. The place was electric and everybody was ready to party and so was the band. If I remember correctly, which is highly suspect, but mentioned elsewhere, there were guest musician rumors going around that day, so we were taking guesses on who it’d be, I was pretty sure it’d be Dylan, since they’d just played with him. I think that happened, but again the mind can do funny things. The show had that kind of extra excitement. There was magic in the air. And the band was on, Jerry was stomping around and belting it out and it had that ’87 energy of renewal. We’d seen it at Hampton, and felt it at Alpine (somewhat) but couldn’t see it there. So it was GREAT to have it confirmed in Pittsburgh. We had a great view of the happenings and just boogied down all night. If you weren’t hip before, when the Neville Brothers joined the band, everybody knew they were experiencing something special! I had definitely figured it out when Jerry started belting out Whoa’s during Shakedown Street, it was electric. What a fun show. It was my first & only Shakedown, and man it’s still my favorite. The first Knockin’ out of space was pretty epic to witness, by then we had been on such an adventure we just watched in awe, and then they revved up like a deuce with a couple more rockers to send us home or in our case, back to a raging hotel party that continued all night. Throughout, the band played my best friend & traveling partner’s favorite tunes that we didn’t see at Hampton or Alpine. The Shakedown > Samson, Iko > Day-O (he also loved that song, it was cosmically weird) > Women & closing Good Lovin’ & JBG encore, felt like it had been dreamed / willed up by my pal Harvey Wallbanger and we danced our asses off. Good times huh bro?!?!

33 years later it still gives me the chills looking back on it and remembering

Never Had Such A Good Time.

Thanks to BLUECROW & JIMINMD for sharing their tales as well. And thanks to all for listening in with me, this one holds a special place in my heart. The band came to have an electric rock n’ roll party and that’s just what we did.
EDIT: Ironic that In The Dark was released this day as well, and the band didn't play a single tune off the album, bad ass ;)

What a band!

Alright, what’s on tap for today?
EDIT 2: Alpine Valley 7/7/84 you say...

Funny, I was going to toss out an 84 option since we seem to be on an 80's terror.

Perhaps we can squeeze in something primal soon and something in the 7 1 through 74 range too.

As for primal, perhaps later this week?? It's been years since I listened to 4/23/69.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:46

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Sounds good to me!

And I will second Jim's 4/23/69 Ark pick for tomorrow - should be an interesting contrast.

Since there wasn't yet a pick for today, I loaded up Beacon Theater 6/14/76 from the box, after a morning appetizer of Disc 3 from 4/8/72 Wembley. I got through the first two discs of that one last evening, but HAD to listen to the third before putting it back on the shelf. Favorite Dark Star ever? I dunno, but it is certainly up there! The Beacon Theater show is nice, but it was a little unfair coming right on the heels of that Europe 72 show, as most things are.

Back to the 80s madness! I've actually been to Alpine - the steepest lawn I've ever been on!

Peace

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:48

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Is that anywhere near Bong Rec? :-P

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 16:20

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Ha.. yes, I stayed there in 87.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 16:31

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Somehow it seemed to me to be related to Alpine 7.7.84, so I went there today after the Alpine show. There's a Playing Reprise and I'm hitting the epic Dew right now. No hearty post-Space Terrapin though. It's nice to know as a Wisconsinite that we have places like Bong right nearby. :-)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 19:15

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....twas a good show. Back when there were more 🌳's on the lawn.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 20:39

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somewhere in my "vault" is a crisp, 8 x 10(?), home darkroom printed, b/w photo ca. summer 1978 of friends and I posing by the sign for the Bong Motel. a pleasant Saturday drive up into the land of cheap beer. Anybody here ever pay tribute to the Andy Gump statue in Lake Geneva?

DeadVikes - yeah the ultramatrix for 7/6/87 ain't too good. if you're still looking for a good source, try this on for size when you have the time. I thought this was a sweet sounding audience on the headphones last night. (Thank you taper Lucien Zaleski! - source 8 of 10 at relisten).

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912

thanks for more Pittsburgh stories Jim and GOGD! yep 1987 was a fun year! first show for me that spring was the somewhat obscure UIC Pavillion 4-9-87 - watched it from the penalty box (no lie!) blazing scarlet - fire and whole 2nd set. jerry reborn!!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 03:02

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... Ihello again! Hope all is well with everyone here & also had a grateful weekend holiday!
I started listening to the Grateful Dead’s release from the ‘Road Trips’ Series Vol.3 #3
“Fillmore East 5/15/70” performance!
Now this is some of my favorite dead era/ style of playing ! Love my Pigpen!!!
I can’t find any weak spots in this release, to me, it’s Perfect in every way! 🙏❤️💀🌹
Rock on my brothers and sisters, peace be with you all! Have a grateful day!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 05:21

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Not that I don't love 5/15/70 but I've got the wayback set to 4/23/69 in post colonial Mass. Playing a little virtual disc golf at Chez Sixtus' 51 years before the 18 posts were securely planted in his back yard makes it just that much easier to cheat and lie about my handicap.. then sip a little kooks aid and off to the Ark.

It's Primal Wednesday here, what could possibly go wrong?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 08:45

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I liked that idea so I dipped my toe in 7/31/74 (at least my digital files were ripped before disc rot set in). Then, I moved over to the Giants first sets from 1989. It's pretty fun rolling out paint to Franklin's Tower btw.

Going to check out the Ark since it was always the 1st and 2nd shows I had on tape.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 08:56

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Primal Wednesday.
Look at those set lists!

It's hard not to argue that those were the days at least in terms of seeing the Dead.
We'll see if this relisten supports the hypothesis.
And yes, the Ark appears on paper to be a fine candidate for a box set, thanks for asking, let's see how these tapes sound.

Oh how different it would be today if Hunter S. Thompson would've been elected sheriff of Aspen.

Stranger things have happened and not for the better... ie 45

But I digress, maybe that's all hypnocracy

Orly Pory Dominorky!

Say.. have you heard the one about the yellow dog yet?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/09/2020 - 20:35

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...did I kill the thread? :D

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/10/2020 - 13:59

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For some reason my post from this morning was deleted???

My suggestion was the big enchilada, 11/17/73, Dave's Picks #5. Let's keep the ball rolling.

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 07/10/2020 - 15:25

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This sounds like a solid pick! As suggested, since this is a legendary show, maybe some leniency is due. Maybe the listening party should be extended through the weekend(?). It's never been a particular favorite of mine, since I don't really like my 73PITB jams interrupted, but I'd be happy to change my mind!

I saw that post and listened to this show.. twas awesome.. did the first half on my morning bike ride, the second half on the Upper Yough. I noticed your post was removed.. I just assumed bolo was involved and we would never see or hear from again. Glad I was wrong on that one..

I actually think they meant to remove my post that used the f work a few posts earlier and missed. But hey.. 4.23.69 was f***ing awesome.

Weird scenes inside the gold mine. Be good all.. so it's 11/17/73 tomorrow and if you already did it today we can catch up one one we missed or listen to whatever the f*** we want to, which is just fine.

11/17/73 is the full enchilada.. spicy and delicious. One of the best of the best...

Weird, my post yesterday got deleted too.

Makes you wonder if you said something wrong...
but Jim dropped the F-bomb and he's still here;)

Mostly was just saying same thing you all are saying, stoked to re-listen to 11/17/73 but need more time.

Cool Shakedown Stream last night, dug that.
Got WMD 50 and am digging that, great job Betty & Bob!! What a recording.
DaP V35 going '84 on us, that's cool.
If my sleuthing is right, that means V36 we should see some Pig era material. You heard it hear first folks!
I got inside info (tongue firmly planted in cheek, I jest, I jest).
Lots going on in Dead Land.

Read some of the goings on on the other boards.. pretty interesting stuff, you all are funny!

And I dug hearing the Ark show the other day JimInMD, nice pick!
I had to go back and listen to 4/21 & 4/22 as well, April '69 is pretty interesting time.
Listen to the difference between the introduction on the first night compared to 4/23, it's pretty funny.

It's cool to think that a year later they'd be testing out the Acoustic set format at the Family Dog followed shortly by the beginning of the "an Evening With" format. Definitely a transitional period in the Dead's history. Always been fascinated with that time period.

Alright, hope you all are doing well.

Got Black Peter WMD playing now.
and my friends they come around..

Damn, sounds so good.

Looking Forward to The Palindrome, we've Heard the first & the last.
BTW: 7/10/90 Jerry jumped right into that Playin' Reprise last night after UJB, I was kinda hoping he'd go back into UJB jam after that, but no.. like Lambert, Lemieux & Mayer were saying last night, you hear something new every time!

Be Well All.

GOGD. That is weird, your post was deleted as well. Did someone complain??

Anyway, thanks for joining me on this one guys. Jim, GOGD, Vguy and Gollum. Hopefully, Gollum, this show did it for you this time.

Drove down to Iowa yesterday to get a puppy for my daughter so I treated the family to this wonderful show and it is a monster. Had to keep the volume much lower than it would be if I was by myself but that is okay, it still rocks. HCS, is always good to hear.. China-Rider, oh yes.
The famous Playing, UJB, Dew, UJB, Playing is a treat and a fantastic ride. Then the big finish with a stellar Eyes Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones encore. Best pick, maybe, I don't know, but it is really f...... good!

Phil seemed so vocal and serious in the pre hiatus days. Always ready to speak to the crowd and then when they came back, Phil seemed to get a little goofy. His playing was stellar, he just seemed off.

My WD set is coming soon, did anybody get theirs yet?

Be well folks. I will be checking out the second set of last night's Shakedown Stream later tonight. Great show so far 👍

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:26

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I noticed both those posts were deleted and mine left.. I am quite sure they meant to delete mine because I correctly used the f work to describe the Arc show. I mean.. sometimes that word is correctly used and if you can't use for a Spring 69 show.. well than, golly and jinkies just aren't good substitutes.

Anyway, I did see your original post, Deadvikes and I was all over it.. a wonderful show that I did listen to fresh within the last six months, but it's not like this one has been overdone. It's a classic and perhaps the best or more aptly my favorite PITB/UJB/MD/UJB/PITB sammy. A stunner.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:37

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Jerry Garcia Band from November 17, 18... 1975 Keystone in Berkeley... This show is smoking hot. Nicky Hopkins sounds awesome and Jerry still has that youthful 75 voice... And by rearranging I mean taking them out of a box.... Never did rip this one.... ooops... This show is a lot better than the New Year's Eve show from 1975... You know the one that they said when it was released that it wasn't their best effort!!!! Have a good weekend everyone... bob t

P.S. I really like the 11/17/73 Pauley Pavilion show!!!! Probably one of my most listened to Dave's... Also my lowest number of 23 of any numbered set.... All that and a free cookie....

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:40

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...this Boreal Ridge show is, is, is...it just is. :-P

P.S. I hope they don't nuke my post for going a bit over the top...

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 20:07

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I'm loving my first real deep dive into this renowned show. Great sound with the instruments in perfect balance! I've been listening in bits and pieces so far, but hope to do an uninterrupted listen tomorrow.

* Here Comes Sunshine. I remember Lemieux gushing about this version in his chat. Jerry and Bob's complementary guitar work is mesmerizing here!
* Looks like Rain. there aren't many bad versions of this song are there? Nearly every one packs a punch. Love Garcia's sweet exclamations at 5:20.
*PITB. I do love my PITB jams uninterrupted, but wow the sparks are flying every second of this jam. Quite a difference from the Charlotte 12/10 PITB. Not knocking Charlotte PITB, but maybe those sparks were smaller or more subtle.
*Crispy China Rider!
Hope to do a full listening on a long beach walk tomorrow. We'll see.... thanks for this great pick!

p.s. I think the mysterious message deletions must have been related to the cat litter box spam. There was a cat litter box spam that was deleted about the same time. (I think we are allowed to cuss here, aren't we?)

Let it Rock- probably the JGB release I listen to the most. - also Sophie's 76!

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 21:16

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Ha! how could I have forgotten? The last vocals of this Dew always sounded to me like an unintentional flub-

"Walk me out in the Morning Dew my honey,
Where have all the people gone today?
there's no need for you to be worried.... this morning
I guess it doesn't matter anyway...."

Unintentional or not, that's always been one of my favorite moments in any Dew. It just sounds so perfect. Dang, I just haven't listened to it in so many years...

I knew it was you all along Brewer!!

In truth.. sometimes I cheat and hit the highlights.. other days I disappear completely because I just didn't have time to play... This pandemic did two things for me though.. severely limited my cash flow and gave me a bunch of extra free time. I am very glad for the latter and am making do like everyone else on the former. Thankfully, we are all safe and healthy. I feel we are the lucky ones.

Be good all.. I have to admit.. this thread has been great fun even if I can't play along everyday.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 10:56

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from 1979 is 9-2-79 Augusta. I would like to hear reactions on that one eventually. I do want to hit Englishtown, and Giants '78 towards the end of next month sometime, too. As for today, I may hit Pauley some more or even venture somewhere else, Binghamton '79 I'm looking at you....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 17:03

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Jim, cheaters never prosper🤠

It is great to have people join in when they can. Sometimes life gets in the way.

Wilfred, is there a pick in there? I am ready.

Be well folks and everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 18:36

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Was fun enough. I skipped a couple tunes though. Bob definitely got his slide practice in. Jerry was achieving some fine tones, but Brent was pretty low in the mix at key times. It's probably not the best of May '79, and leaves me wondering which are the hotter shows of the tour.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 20:31

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Cheers fellow cheater. I frequently skip Mexicali's too. We are mortally flawed.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 00:48

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So that's how you do it. I have noticed, at this time, that I prefer up tempo songs to slower ones, irrespective of the lyrical content . So Mexicali Blues appeals to me more than... say, Stella Blue, to pick one ballad out of the ether. Friend of the Devil was better for me when it rocked. There is only so many times that I can listen to the same story, but rock n' roll, as the saying goes, never dies.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 10:04

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DEADVIKES looks like it's You & Me bro..

Whatcha want to listen too?

They were talking about 9/20/70 the other day on DaP board which made me wanna give that an ole relisten -
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-09-20.140665.sbd.boswell.smith.mille…

Or we could look at some '84 in preparation of DaP V35. The next night 4/21/84 has a tasty set list and It's been awhile (EDIT: Actually I might've listened to this on 4/21/20.. but yeah, almost 3 months, that's awhile, right?!?) -
https://archive.org/details/gd1984-04-21.137247.sbd.miller.flac1648

LMK if either of those peak your interest. Or toss something out and we can decide.

That is if my comment isn't deleted ;)

Did you get WMD 50 yet?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:05

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Thanks for hanging in there GOGD. I would not mind taking a look at the 1984 show. Let's do it. 4/21/84 it is.

Yes, I did receive my WD set, but have not cracked it open yet? How about you?

Bam!

Sweet and Likewise.

Yeah, I got WMD download so I checked it out. Sounds amazing.

There's a brief 2 second drop out in Live UJB on the DL, so hoping to get that remedied.

It's weird cuz that happened with my Aoxomoxoa download too, last track 2 second drop out on bonus material, but Dead.net was cool about getting it fixed. Technical gremlins always getting in there and messing with stuff.

Alright man, looks like we got some '84 in order today.

Be well and look forward to what you think.
Enjoy!

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:39

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Going through my cd's that have been in a box for about a year or so.... Gave my man cave/office to my daughter.... on the bonus disc Garcia plays Dylan again, anyone know where and when the It Takes a Lot to Laugh It Takes a Train to Cry is from....... (sort of fun to re discover discs that I never burned!!!! Thanks in advance... Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:53

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Appreciate it......... Bob T... Listening to 7/29/74 Landover bonus disc..... much better than I remember, only listened to a few times I guess in 2012......

The second set was off the hook. Crystal clean licks from Jerry on the Slipknot! and Franklins. I was listening to the Charlie Miller, sounded quite good.

What versions were you guys listening to?