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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1301
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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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    There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
    The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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    Hey folks.
    Whew! Wall to wall autumn (deliberately avoiding the overly-insistent rhyme) and have taken the new year winter decompression to track a lot of the transfers of old vinyl I'd made back in August. Thanks to that, The Dead have taken something of a backseat in my listening during the new year as I've now got all of these other things in a convenient format.

    While tidying up an old hard disk, I came across a James "Blood" Ulmer show I must've torrented over ten years ago, but for whatever reason never unpacked. No info file, and so far various Googling can't even prove that the concert even happened. The directory is only listed as ulmer2_27_86. Anybody have a suggestion where I might look to find some more info on this? I checked out the taper forum, and the "Looking for..." forum, but there hasn't been a lot of activity over there.

    One new Dead show in my library, however:
    6/8/74 FOB which I've only had on once, but wasn't giving my full attention. I think I found it also unpacked on a hard disk while "house cleaning". My (slowly) ongoing exploration of Wall Of Sound audience tapes. Any takers?

    There is also a trove of late 60s shows that were binge torrented and then never unpacked. Can't wait to get to those.

    Well, I'd wanted to recap, but I'm not even out of August, so I'll spare you the flashbacks.

    >Oroborous>
    Thank you for the acknowledgement so many months ago.

    ●　Just put the 2/24/71 Port Chester show on. This one I'd transferred from an old cassette. Haven't heard it in a really long time, and don't have as many specific memories of it, like the 2/18 tape.

    Oooh. This Bertha. Bump! Bump!

    Either my cassette was running slow or this is the most mellow Hard to Handle I've ever heard. Dig it.

    I love these really slow early Losers, too. It seemed like it might be vying for a spot in the Dew rotation in those days, but they eventually picked up the tempo to a slow trot as the years went by. This being transferred from a tape, it may just be a media issue. I sometimes cover this on acoustic, and always do it real slow and always only ask for 1 gold dollar, not ten. To me, these are the archetypal Losers.

    Epic Good Lovin' drum solo!

    Thanks for that ranking of that Feb '71 run. Found AUDs on the Archive for the 19th and 21st. Back in the day, I ended up with only 2/18, 2/23, and 2/24 somehow. I was trying to explore as many different eras as possible, I guess, so didn't go for a completist approach... I guess... who knows what I was thinking back then?! lol. I'd take whatever I could get. Those tapes accompanied me on many a road trip cause that period is just fantastic driving music....

    ●　A good buddy lent me the 3/9/81 discs. I don't think he got the MSG box, just the single show on offer. Those were on in the car for quite a while last fall.

    My buddy was, like, "Dude. Check this China Cat," and he was not wrong. For me, because I'm less familiar with this era, I felt like there was some really unusual interplay between Phil and Jerry in there. Brent's synth work is pretty novel, too. Sounds like he'd been listening to some Steve Winwood. I could stand for a bit more of it, if I'm honest.

    Bird Song was the first tune in this show to really grab me, though.

    An electric Deep Elem? I'll take that.

    Uncle Johns is kind of a mixed bag. There are some really cool things happening, but it seems a little ragged at times too. That's just how it goes, but that's how I hear this one. No disrespect for hanging it out in front of a huge crowd.

    The Drums > Space > Other One is also fantastic. Sounds like someone (I'll guess Mickey) is playing with some microphone feedback, incorporating it into the jam.

    That Stella Blue seems to start out a little unsure of its footing, but by the end is soaring. That's a real highlight... I mean, I love Stella Blue pretty much any time you'll give it to me, but after a few listens this one really grew on me.

    I think I'm still a little partial to 3/7/81 at U. of Maryland, though.

    >bluecrow>
    Cal Expo rang a bell, but I've only got 5/26, 27 from 1993.

    5/26 is a 3rd gen cassette 1st set and a 4th gen 2nd set AUD. Not sure how that happened. Couldn't tell you anything about it off the top of my head other than that there is a heart mark next to Playin' > Drums > Space > and I tracked that all as just Playin' because that's how I roll.

    ●　5/27/93 is a partial board, but 7th gen cassette... only the 2nd set. I was doin' postage and blanks, so ended up pretty far out on a limb a lot. I'm not using headphones, but there's not a thing wrong with the sound quality. Might have just lost the first set, or maybe never had it.

    Pretty worthy Scarlet/Fire.

    Might skip Wave to the Wind so I can get an ear on the Cassidy > Uncle Johns > Cassidy Reprise > Drums segment. Nah. Wave to the Wind is 7 minutes long. There must be some sort of jam in there. Better be. Certainly are a lot of changes. Jer's on top of 'em. That's about all I can say.

    Cassidy is mellow and starting to jam out, but...ah, well, nice try. The seque into UJB comes across pretty forced. A bit more patience, and cooperation might have helped that jam. Good idea.

    The UJB jam, however is goin' off! Love how it is deconstructing toward drums. The band is showing a lot more patience here... oh, and the brief reprise of Cassidy is smooth as silk. You can hear Jerry hinting at it for a while. It would have been magic if they'd pulled that off on the way out of Cassidy.

    Drums could always be counted on to deliver in the 90s. I'll expect no less here. Nice beam drones. More like space.

    Oddly, Space just seems to stop and Jerry's there playing TOO on his own for a bit. Cool super distortion Bobby cutting is the perfect ground for Jerry's crystal clear lines. Don't appear to be any Martian vocal effects on Bobby's voice, which is a shame. I always liked that. Jer digs in to some overdriven runs after the first chorus which are now weaving nicely with Bobby's stabs and dives. Good mix. The drums are touch lost behind the guitars, maybe. Vince is real low in the mix. Say what you want about '93, dudes are goin' for it. Some heavy echo on Bobby's voice for the second verse, which immediately diffuses into Wharf Rat. Coulda dealt with a bit more TOO, but that was as smooth a transition as you can ask for. The thing about this era is that they have the in-ear monitors, and intercoms, so they didn't have to hint at anything musically. All anyone needed to do was call a tune into the ears of the others. Makes the transitions a lot more succinct, which can be both smoother, but also sometimes a little less thrilling.

    Wharf Rat is a tune that suited Jerry any day, any year. This tune is gonna be solid no matter what... at least as far as I know. Tape starting to sound a little muddy at this point for some reason. It was fine earlier. Love that Bobby is well-represented in the mix to add his coloring throughout. Is this after they fired Dan Healy? Well, I spoke too soon. The Life I Should found the limit of Jerry's voice on this particular night.

    Sounds like Jer's starting GDTRFB, but maybe it's just because this Sugar Mag slides out of Wharf Rat as easy as can be before Bobby takes the lead. Even Bobby's sounding a bit froggy at this point. Musta been something in the air. (Can't imagine what!) Nothing to write home about, but nothing to complain about, either.... Jerry's lettin' some overdrive licks fly throughout the Sunshine Daydream section. It's interesting because it's like you can still hear his clean tone at the core of his distorted effect. Pretty aggressive, if short. No encore on my tape, unfortunately.

    ●　My only May 91 show is Shoreline on the 12th and it's FOB probably available on the Archive. Couldn't tell ya anything about it off the top of my head.

    >Forensicdoceleven>
    >JimInMD>
    >PT Barnum>
    RE Woodstock

    Perfect back yard recreation. Hahahaha. :)

    Just listened to my old, old vinyl copy of the Woodstock Soundtrack a couple weeks ago, and even that excerpt of Hendrix is totally face melting. If I recall correctly this wasn't The Experience.

    I'm not sure I've ever heard the Dead's entire Woodstock set. Last year I was surprised to learn that CCR, Mountain, and Johnny Winter had also played Woodstock. I'm pretty sure I'd never known that. They were also not part of the soundtrack or film. Jerry, at least, makes a memorable cameo in the film.

    PT Barnum> RE Fall '91
    Near miss. I've got 8/16, and 9/17 in the library. Couldn't tell you anything about them off the top of my head. If there's one thing this group always does, it's fill in the gaps. Cheers.

    JeffSmith> RE HDTracks

    DUDE! Thank you! I've been looking for a site where I can get minimum 16b44.1 quality downloads. Being on the other side of the world, shipping even CDs is murder. One of my favorite things about nugs net is that you can buy, not hi-res, but at least CD quality downloads. I think downloads sound better than CDs, tbh. Something happens during the CD manufacturing process, or at least it has begun to seem that way to me.

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    JimInMD
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    I forgot about this one.. haven't given it a listen since release time. I'll have to change that.

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    1974 in the air I guess (isn't it always somewhere close?) as out here in the high desert I was reaching for DaP 42 and DaP 13 (Winterland Feb. '74) .

    The Road Trips series is chock full of gems. Happy to say I picked up all of them at the time with lone exception of Cal Expo '93. Of course I would love to see some of the partial shows released in full show glory (and run through Plangent) just like some of Dick's Picks need a revisit. But don't take that as a complaint, just a wish.

    Edit - DV I need to revisit the Penn State and Cornell volumes, plus the April Fools 88 show - they've been sitting there wondering if they're the chopped liver of RT. They haven't gotten the attention that the early years in that series have.

    Sort of almost the weekend. Onward!!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:05

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I love that this board has gone more into the archives. I love the official releases, but there are so many gems in the ol' mine that sticking to just the releases exclusively would mean missing out on shows like this.

Hooking it up to the stereo, hitting play, and spending as much of the day in the AC as possible. It is brutal around these parts... but a good book and a good show make it bearable. I hope everyone had a great July 4th weekend!

Peace

This show might just be the most-listened to show in my listening history. I think it is so much fun, it is near the top of the list of shows I wish i had attended. Enjoy!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 18:58

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hi everybody!! sorry, its been awhile posting, but i check in all the time on this oasis of friendship and good cheer.
Pittsburgh 87 was one of only 4 east coast shows i saw (Hampton 88 the other three). I'd seen the Alpine shows, then went fishing with Dad and brother in Canada. just got back day before show. left Chicago area at dawn. for some reason took the scenic route, driving some US highway rather than the interstate. got a speeding ticket as I crossed into Ohio (65 to 55 speed trap) - boo. as i said goodbye to the kind officer i asked him how far to Pittsburgh? he looked at me funny - Pittsburgh??? long long day driving, lots of winding roads i think as i got further east but somehow made it to the arena. back in those days i would get to some confusing unknown city and just follow the cars that looked like they knew where they were going. just now flashed on a bumper sticker i saw wandering the lot that evening unwinding before the show -
CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN
yeah, for real
it was a heart of gold night. mail order ticket, might have been a GA show, but I was in the second level stage left. surrounded by kind strangers. more than a few empty seats in the arena i think. relaxed. really fun first set. remember Desolation Row as big cool surprise.
and then that SHAKEDOWN - holy shit!!!! Jerry scat singing!! Phil!! craziness!! out of body rush just thinking about it!!
and then "We ran into some of our friends the Neville Brothers" and its like you have got to be freaking kidding - Iko > Day-o > Women Smarter!! still have a dream vision of the stage during Day-O. yeah it was like a dream! coming out of space the whole place was buzzing with dylan energy, that bob d would join them. close. he was there in spirit. the knockin on heaven's door was one of the most righteous dead moments i ever witnessed. another vision of the stage as it lead to the first verse - unearthly blue/green lighting, the Nevilles, shadowed, slowly joining the boys. tears in my eyes. great good lovin set closer. then johnny b goode. super energy. smiles everywhere.
at some point during the drive that afternoon i'd wondered what the heck i was doing. i left that show filled with contentment and happiness. of course i'm totally lost when i try to find my way out of town. most traffic long gone. i'm at a stop light, drifting in my own thoughts, when I look to my right and a couple of officers in a patrol car are 5 ft away giving me the real hairy eyeball. seconds from big trouble. I lean over, roll down the window, and ask Hi - which way to Ohio? the expression of the officer at the wheel suddenly goes from doom to Sure, let me help! Ohio? you take a left at this light! I'm like Great!! Thank you!! seconds later light turns green, i turn left, and make my getaway across some bridge. whew. at some early am rest area i remember a fellow traveler asking if I was headed to Roanoke. sigh. the answer was no - heck I didn't even know the next shows were in Roanoke. 10 years later i got to know shannon way out west. and she was from virginia and yeah the roanoke shows were way hot!! as for me, the next shows i saw were Red Rocks
i'm listening to the Zaleski version on relisten right now - it sounds freaking fantastic, amazing pull, highly recommend!!
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912
man, '87 was a fun year, with the newly re-energized Jerry. this brings back a lot of sweet memories.
stay healthy and be safe!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 19:54

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More a relation to timing, cash flow and where I was in college at the time, but I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. Plus.. I was kind of freaked by the 86 coma, which lead to full throttle 87 and Pittsburgh was less than two hours from where I was living at the time.

I was there and it was a hoot. I was just beginning to know what the Nevilles were all about.

What I remember from the whole thing was first that Jerry was looking and sounding better as the year went on. Second.. I was there with a bunch of college buddies and I could not wait long enough to ditch them and spend most of the show alone, just me and my girlfriend at the time. Something about people you don't know that well, that probably aren't that into the dead anyway talking while you are finding your footing is really annoying. So by Row Jimmy we had separated from anything resembling the crowd we arrived with and had achieved lift off.

I have not listened to this since I was there until today. What a nice road trip and both brings back memories and reminds me how little I still remember. I do remember the Neville's centric second set and the drive back home a good bit.

Well, that's the best I can recall.

Oh, this might have been the day or the we ek that In the Dark was released. At first I was ecstatic, later deflated.. it was the beginning of the end of sorts.. We were no longer a small town, under the radar thing. It was so much more fun when were were under the radar.

Oh.. and Otis.. it was hot as balls here today, and we are usually 10 to 15 degrees cooler than you. Great day on the river though. This working less stuff is a ok with me.

CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN. Truly the funniest thing I have heard all month. Hilarious, I want one of those stickers!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/06/2020 - 21:59

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Jim and Bluecrow, thanks for sharing your memories of the Igloo! Really cool. Jim, yes, I do know what you mean, about the changes that occurred after In the Dark. The Dead achieved big time success, which I think was great for them, but of course it changed the scene forever.

The ultra matrix I pulled up on Relisten was marginal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

Official releases versus bootlegs. I will say, this site would not exist if it wasn't for the official releases. Professional recordings, mixing and mastering take a ton of time and effort and in most cases sound way better than unofficial releases. If they didn't, Grateful Dead Productions and Rhino would not brother with these releases. I am sure glad they do, it has been tons of fun.
I have also been surprised how good some of the shows on The archive or Relisten sound. Miller seems to do a fantastic job, however, it is still no guarantee that the recordings themselves were very good.

Long live the Vault!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 08:11

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What a fun night!

The Scene:
We'd gotten home from Alpine and kicked around for a week or so and then headed over to Pittsburgh for our last taste of the Dead for the summer of '87. I guess it was a Monday night, but felt like a party. The only time we stayed in a hotel, and a bunch of our friends from Ohio had the room nextdoor. The rooms had a connecting walk through party door and we walked through it and partied all night long! It was off the hook. I can't remember if that was planned or coincidence, but feel like we didn't know until we got to the room. The hotel was taken over by Dead Heads and a party raged the whole time before and after. There was a Park & Eat diner up the road and we went there in shifts throughout the night, high out of our minds, laughing and shit like we were on a different planet, and we were. All these stoned out hippies flooding the place. We made up all these names for it, the barf & puke, the stop & ralph, we were rolling. I think there was a pool and the balcony circled around the pool.. but yeah it was 33 years ago, and we were all blotto.

The Music:
You ever been to a show with a friend and the band plays ALL of their favorites? That was this night for me and my buddy Walling. The place was electric and everybody was ready to party and so was the band. If I remember correctly, which is highly suspect, but mentioned elsewhere, there were guest musician rumors going around that day, so we were taking guesses on who it’d be, I was pretty sure it’d be Dylan, since they’d just played with him. I think that happened, but again the mind can do funny things. The show had that kind of extra excitement. There was magic in the air. And the band was on, Jerry was stomping around and belting it out and it had that ’87 energy of renewal. We’d seen it at Hampton, and felt it at Alpine (somewhat) but couldn’t see it there. So it was GREAT to have it confirmed in Pittsburgh. We had a great view of the happenings and just boogied down all night. If you weren’t hip before, when the Neville Brothers joined the band, everybody knew they were experiencing something special! I had definitely figured it out when Jerry started belting out Whoa’s during Shakedown Street, it was electric. What a fun show. It was my first & only Shakedown, and man it’s still my favorite. The first Knockin’ out of space was pretty epic to witness, by then we had been on such an adventure we just watched in awe, and then they revved up like a deuce with a couple more rockers to send us home or in our case, back to a raging hotel party that continued all night. Throughout, the band played my best friend & traveling partner’s favorite tunes that we didn’t see at Hampton or Alpine. The Shakedown > Samson, Iko > Day-O (he also loved that song, it was cosmically weird) > Women & closing Good Lovin’ & JBG encore, felt like it had been dreamed / willed up by my pal Harvey Wallbanger and we danced our asses off. Good times huh bro?!?!

33 years later it still gives me the chills looking back on it and remembering

Never Had Such A Good Time.

Thanks to BLUECROW & JIMINMD for sharing their tales as well. And thanks to all for listening in with me, this one holds a special place in my heart. The band came to have an electric rock n’ roll party and that’s just what we did.
EDIT: Ironic that In The Dark was released this day as well, and the band didn't play a single tune off the album, bad ass ;)

What a band!

Alright, what’s on tap for today?
EDIT 2: Alpine Valley 7/7/84 you say...

Funny, I was going to toss out an 84 option since we seem to be on an 80's terror.

Perhaps we can squeeze in something primal soon and something in the 7 1 through 74 range too.

As for primal, perhaps later this week?? It's been years since I listened to 4/23/69.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:46

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Sounds good to me!

And I will second Jim's 4/23/69 Ark pick for tomorrow - should be an interesting contrast.

Since there wasn't yet a pick for today, I loaded up Beacon Theater 6/14/76 from the box, after a morning appetizer of Disc 3 from 4/8/72 Wembley. I got through the first two discs of that one last evening, but HAD to listen to the third before putting it back on the shelf. Favorite Dark Star ever? I dunno, but it is certainly up there! The Beacon Theater show is nice, but it was a little unfair coming right on the heels of that Europe 72 show, as most things are.

Back to the 80s madness! I've actually been to Alpine - the steepest lawn I've ever been on!

Peace

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:48

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Is that anywhere near Bong Rec? :-P

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 16:20

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Ha.. yes, I stayed there in 87.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 16:31

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Somehow it seemed to me to be related to Alpine 7.7.84, so I went there today after the Alpine show. There's a Playing Reprise and I'm hitting the epic Dew right now. No hearty post-Space Terrapin though. It's nice to know as a Wisconsinite that we have places like Bong right nearby. :-)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 19:15

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....twas a good show. Back when there were more 🌳's on the lawn.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Tue, 07/07/2020 - 20:39

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somewhere in my "vault" is a crisp, 8 x 10(?), home darkroom printed, b/w photo ca. summer 1978 of friends and I posing by the sign for the Bong Motel. a pleasant Saturday drive up into the land of cheap beer. Anybody here ever pay tribute to the Andy Gump statue in Lake Geneva?

DeadVikes - yeah the ultramatrix for 7/6/87 ain't too good. if you're still looking for a good source, try this on for size when you have the time. I thought this was a sweet sounding audience on the headphones last night. (Thank you taper Lucien Zaleski! - source 8 of 10 at relisten).

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912

thanks for more Pittsburgh stories Jim and GOGD! yep 1987 was a fun year! first show for me that spring was the somewhat obscure UIC Pavillion 4-9-87 - watched it from the penalty box (no lie!) blazing scarlet - fire and whole 2nd set. jerry reborn!!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 03:02

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... Ihello again! Hope all is well with everyone here & also had a grateful weekend holiday!
I started listening to the Grateful Dead’s release from the ‘Road Trips’ Series Vol.3 #3
“Fillmore East 5/15/70” performance!
Now this is some of my favorite dead era/ style of playing ! Love my Pigpen!!!
I can’t find any weak spots in this release, to me, it’s Perfect in every way! 🙏❤️💀🌹
Rock on my brothers and sisters, peace be with you all! Have a grateful day!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 05:21

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Not that I don't love 5/15/70 but I've got the wayback set to 4/23/69 in post colonial Mass. Playing a little virtual disc golf at Chez Sixtus' 51 years before the 18 posts were securely planted in his back yard makes it just that much easier to cheat and lie about my handicap.. then sip a little kooks aid and off to the Ark.

It's Primal Wednesday here, what could possibly go wrong?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 08:45

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I liked that idea so I dipped my toe in 7/31/74 (at least my digital files were ripped before disc rot set in). Then, I moved over to the Giants first sets from 1989. It's pretty fun rolling out paint to Franklin's Tower btw.

Going to check out the Ark since it was always the 1st and 2nd shows I had on tape.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/08/2020 - 08:56

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Primal Wednesday.
Look at those set lists!

It's hard not to argue that those were the days at least in terms of seeing the Dead.
We'll see if this relisten supports the hypothesis.
And yes, the Ark appears on paper to be a fine candidate for a box set, thanks for asking, let's see how these tapes sound.

Oh how different it would be today if Hunter S. Thompson would've been elected sheriff of Aspen.

Stranger things have happened and not for the better... ie 45

But I digress, maybe that's all hypnocracy

Orly Pory Dominorky!

Say.. have you heard the one about the yellow dog yet?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/09/2020 - 20:35

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...did I kill the thread? :D

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Submitted by Gollum on Fri, 07/10/2020 - 15:25

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This sounds like a solid pick! As suggested, since this is a legendary show, maybe some leniency is due. Maybe the listening party should be extended through the weekend(?). It's never been a particular favorite of mine, since I don't really like my 73PITB jams interrupted, but I'd be happy to change my mind!

I saw that post and listened to this show.. twas awesome.. did the first half on my morning bike ride, the second half on the Upper Yough. I noticed your post was removed.. I just assumed bolo was involved and we would never see or hear from again. Glad I was wrong on that one..

I actually think they meant to remove my post that used the f work a few posts earlier and missed. But hey.. 4.23.69 was f***ing awesome.

Weird scenes inside the gold mine. Be good all.. so it's 11/17/73 tomorrow and if you already did it today we can catch up one one we missed or listen to whatever the f*** we want to, which is just fine.

11/17/73 is the full enchilada.. spicy and delicious. One of the best of the best...

Weird, my post yesterday got deleted too.

Makes you wonder if you said something wrong...
but Jim dropped the F-bomb and he's still here;)

Mostly was just saying same thing you all are saying, stoked to re-listen to 11/17/73 but need more time.

Cool Shakedown Stream last night, dug that.
Got WMD 50 and am digging that, great job Betty & Bob!! What a recording.
DaP V35 going '84 on us, that's cool.
If my sleuthing is right, that means V36 we should see some Pig era material. You heard it hear first folks!
I got inside info (tongue firmly planted in cheek, I jest, I jest).
Lots going on in Dead Land.

Read some of the goings on on the other boards.. pretty interesting stuff, you all are funny!

And I dug hearing the Ark show the other day JimInMD, nice pick!
I had to go back and listen to 4/21 & 4/22 as well, April '69 is pretty interesting time.
Listen to the difference between the introduction on the first night compared to 4/23, it's pretty funny.

It's cool to think that a year later they'd be testing out the Acoustic set format at the Family Dog followed shortly by the beginning of the "an Evening With" format. Definitely a transitional period in the Dead's history. Always been fascinated with that time period.

Alright, hope you all are doing well.

Got Black Peter WMD playing now.
and my friends they come around..

Damn, sounds so good.

Looking Forward to The Palindrome, we've Heard the first & the last.
BTW: 7/10/90 Jerry jumped right into that Playin' Reprise last night after UJB, I was kinda hoping he'd go back into UJB jam after that, but no.. like Lambert, Lemieux & Mayer were saying last night, you hear something new every time!

Be Well All.

GOGD. That is weird, your post was deleted as well. Did someone complain??

Anyway, thanks for joining me on this one guys. Jim, GOGD, Vguy and Gollum. Hopefully, Gollum, this show did it for you this time.

Drove down to Iowa yesterday to get a puppy for my daughter so I treated the family to this wonderful show and it is a monster. Had to keep the volume much lower than it would be if I was by myself but that is okay, it still rocks. HCS, is always good to hear.. China-Rider, oh yes.
The famous Playing, UJB, Dew, UJB, Playing is a treat and a fantastic ride. Then the big finish with a stellar Eyes Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones encore. Best pick, maybe, I don't know, but it is really f...... good!

Phil seemed so vocal and serious in the pre hiatus days. Always ready to speak to the crowd and then when they came back, Phil seemed to get a little goofy. His playing was stellar, he just seemed off.

My WD set is coming soon, did anybody get theirs yet?

Be well folks. I will be checking out the second set of last night's Shakedown Stream later tonight. Great show so far 👍

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:26

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I noticed both those posts were deleted and mine left.. I am quite sure they meant to delete mine because I correctly used the f work to describe the Arc show. I mean.. sometimes that word is correctly used and if you can't use for a Spring 69 show.. well than, golly and jinkies just aren't good substitutes.

Anyway, I did see your original post, Deadvikes and I was all over it.. a wonderful show that I did listen to fresh within the last six months, but it's not like this one has been overdone. It's a classic and perhaps the best or more aptly my favorite PITB/UJB/MD/UJB/PITB sammy. A stunner.

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:37

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Jerry Garcia Band from November 17, 18... 1975 Keystone in Berkeley... This show is smoking hot. Nicky Hopkins sounds awesome and Jerry still has that youthful 75 voice... And by rearranging I mean taking them out of a box.... Never did rip this one.... ooops... This show is a lot better than the New Year's Eve show from 1975... You know the one that they said when it was released that it wasn't their best effort!!!! Have a good weekend everyone... bob t

P.S. I really like the 11/17/73 Pauley Pavilion show!!!! Probably one of my most listened to Dave's... Also my lowest number of 23 of any numbered set.... All that and a free cookie....

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 16:40

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...this Boreal Ridge show is, is, is...it just is. :-P

P.S. I hope they don't nuke my post for going a bit over the top...

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 20:07

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I'm loving my first real deep dive into this renowned show. Great sound with the instruments in perfect balance! I've been listening in bits and pieces so far, but hope to do an uninterrupted listen tomorrow.

* Here Comes Sunshine. I remember Lemieux gushing about this version in his chat. Jerry and Bob's complementary guitar work is mesmerizing here!
* Looks like Rain. there aren't many bad versions of this song are there? Nearly every one packs a punch. Love Garcia's sweet exclamations at 5:20.
*PITB. I do love my PITB jams uninterrupted, but wow the sparks are flying every second of this jam. Quite a difference from the Charlotte 12/10 PITB. Not knocking Charlotte PITB, but maybe those sparks were smaller or more subtle.
*Crispy China Rider!
Hope to do a full listening on a long beach walk tomorrow. We'll see.... thanks for this great pick!

p.s. I think the mysterious message deletions must have been related to the cat litter box spam. There was a cat litter box spam that was deleted about the same time. (I think we are allowed to cuss here, aren't we?)

Let it Rock- probably the JGB release I listen to the most. - also Sophie's 76!

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 07/11/2020 - 21:16

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Ha! how could I have forgotten? The last vocals of this Dew always sounded to me like an unintentional flub-

"Walk me out in the Morning Dew my honey,
Where have all the people gone today?
there's no need for you to be worried.... this morning
I guess it doesn't matter anyway...."

Unintentional or not, that's always been one of my favorite moments in any Dew. It just sounds so perfect. Dang, I just haven't listened to it in so many years...

I knew it was you all along Brewer!!

In truth.. sometimes I cheat and hit the highlights.. other days I disappear completely because I just didn't have time to play... This pandemic did two things for me though.. severely limited my cash flow and gave me a bunch of extra free time. I am very glad for the latter and am making do like everyone else on the former. Thankfully, we are all safe and healthy. I feel we are the lucky ones.

Be good all.. I have to admit.. this thread has been great fun even if I can't play along everyday.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 10:56

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from 1979 is 9-2-79 Augusta. I would like to hear reactions on that one eventually. I do want to hit Englishtown, and Giants '78 towards the end of next month sometime, too. As for today, I may hit Pauley some more or even venture somewhere else, Binghamton '79 I'm looking at you....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 17:03

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Jim, cheaters never prosper🤠

It is great to have people join in when they can. Sometimes life gets in the way.

Wilfred, is there a pick in there? I am ready.

Be well folks and everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 18:36

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Was fun enough. I skipped a couple tunes though. Bob definitely got his slide practice in. Jerry was achieving some fine tones, but Brent was pretty low in the mix at key times. It's probably not the best of May '79, and leaves me wondering which are the hotter shows of the tour.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/12/2020 - 20:31

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Cheers fellow cheater. I frequently skip Mexicali's too. We are mortally flawed.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 00:48

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So that's how you do it. I have noticed, at this time, that I prefer up tempo songs to slower ones, irrespective of the lyrical content . So Mexicali Blues appeals to me more than... say, Stella Blue, to pick one ballad out of the ether. Friend of the Devil was better for me when it rocked. There is only so many times that I can listen to the same story, but rock n' roll, as the saying goes, never dies.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 10:04

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DEADVIKES looks like it's You & Me bro..

Whatcha want to listen too?

They were talking about 9/20/70 the other day on DaP board which made me wanna give that an ole relisten -
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-09-20.140665.sbd.boswell.smith.mille…

Or we could look at some '84 in preparation of DaP V35. The next night 4/21/84 has a tasty set list and It's been awhile (EDIT: Actually I might've listened to this on 4/21/20.. but yeah, almost 3 months, that's awhile, right?!?) -
https://archive.org/details/gd1984-04-21.137247.sbd.miller.flac1648

LMK if either of those peak your interest. Or toss something out and we can decide.

That is if my comment isn't deleted ;)

Did you get WMD 50 yet?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:05

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Thanks for hanging in there GOGD. I would not mind taking a look at the 1984 show. Let's do it. 4/21/84 it is.

Yes, I did receive my WD set, but have not cracked it open yet? How about you?

Bam!

Sweet and Likewise.

Yeah, I got WMD download so I checked it out. Sounds amazing.

There's a brief 2 second drop out in Live UJB on the DL, so hoping to get that remedied.

It's weird cuz that happened with my Aoxomoxoa download too, last track 2 second drop out on bonus material, but Dead.net was cool about getting it fixed. Technical gremlins always getting in there and messing with stuff.

Alright man, looks like we got some '84 in order today.

Be well and look forward to what you think.
Enjoy!

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:39

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Going through my cd's that have been in a box for about a year or so.... Gave my man cave/office to my daughter.... on the bonus disc Garcia plays Dylan again, anyone know where and when the It Takes a Lot to Laugh It Takes a Train to Cry is from....... (sort of fun to re discover discs that I never burned!!!! Thanks in advance... Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 07/13/2020 - 13:53

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Appreciate it......... Bob T... Listening to 7/29/74 Landover bonus disc..... much better than I remember, only listened to a few times I guess in 2012......

The second set was off the hook. Crystal clean licks from Jerry on the Slipknot! and Franklins. I was listening to the Charlie Miller, sounded quite good.

What versions were you guys listening to?