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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1281
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    Music is the best means we have of digesting time......

    ROCKTHING.............

    Check your PMs...........

    Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend........

    Rock on,

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    Hey rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Austin, Texas February 23, 1970

    I reluctantly discussed this at the end of last year. Here I am again. It appears that I’m stuck in a time warp. The galactic rock and roll union. I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious…..

    It appears that the currently circulated recording of this show is the only surviving audio document from the Dead’s four show excursion through Texas in February 1970. It’s tough coming right after the wonderful, brilliant Fillmore West/Fillmore East shows earlier that month, and perhaps it’s not unexpected that the intensity level might come down a bit. That being said, this is still interesting, enjoyable, and worthy…..

    The band is in 1970 electric/acoustic/electric mode. The circulating recording appears to be missing part of the first electric set, coming in during Know You Rider. For fans of acoustic Dead, this set is nice---Monkey And The Engineer-Little Sadie-Me And My Uncle-Black Peter-Seasons Of My Heart-Uncle John's Band. The festivities are completed with a jammy NFA and Mason’s Children.

    The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity……

    Did Bear travel to Texas, and did he record? Banana boxes, reveal thy mysteries…..

    Rock on,

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    Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods……

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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 03:47

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I see this show has been suggested a few times. I'll be interested in y'all's comments if you ever get around to it. I've never quite understood the love for this show. I know I must be missing something. I know it was one of Latvala's very favorite shows. But there's just the one big jam, the 20 min NFA. That jam never seemed to me very psychedelic, by the Dead's standards. I've never even heard or read much praise for this jam, in particular. The rest of the show has great high energy performances, but nothing unusual for 1977. Is it just the ambiance of an outdoor 1977 show? (the only outdoor 77 show?) The ambiance of a huge crowd? I know I must just be missing something. I certainly have learned to always trust Latvala!!

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 04:00

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What does it for me is the uniqueness of a few songs. The Mississippi Half Step and He's Gone is like no other for 77....... Also a very strong Estimated>Eyes sequence... bob t

I would add.. in general it's a very well played show at a mammoth outdoor concert in the greater NY area.. it took place over Labor Day weekend and in excess of 125,000 people attended. Look how fast the Giants Stadium box sold out.. NY fans are a rabid bunch.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 07:00

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I don't know Gollum, but all this talk about Englishtown... makes me curious to give it a re-listen.
What was the consensus on that, wait till later in the summer? Something like that, I believe.

4/21/84.. I agree JIMINMD, that Slipknot! cooks for sure. I dig that Set 2, some good stuff happening there, and that stoked up some excitement for DaP V35 for me. Personally, I've always been real fond of '84 and I dig the cover too.
Pre-order is 7/17, when do they usually ship, I can't remember? I guess I could look...

Alright, what should we listen to today?

BTW I'd be down to re-listen to 9/20/70 this week, but maybe over the weekend when everyone can give it some proper attention, just putting it out there again ;)

Jim in Midi ;)

Yeah man, I'll follow your foolish heart off the path to Shoreline 5/10/91 (puns all intended, 2nd cup of coffee over here).

Looks fun, and for the record we've only had 1 yes count it 1 pick from '91 in the close to 4 months we've been doing this and that was 9/10/91 on 4/23/20. However, the bro / sis of this show 5/11/91 was watched by many on Shakedown Stream about a month ago.

Alright, there's your fun facts for the day ladies & germs.

Let's do this, thanks Jim!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 08:48

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.....lemme check my shows attended. Yup. I was present and accounted for. Good show!! Good pick!!
If i recall correctly, which is a stretch, this run of shows was an example of the each show getting better and better. The show on the 12th was Mother's Day. Bunch of mom's and roses in attendance. The memory is a grate place to visit.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:05

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Yes, please try again on Englishtown. Many days I consider it my all-time favorite show . . . the energy and enthusiasm are sky-high!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:07

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Sorry fellow pickers, been hanging out in the front too much....(seems like all I do is piss people off?)....needed to take a step back and smoke some fatties and mellow back in the last row for a while. Unlike y’all I need to take a time out from all dead, all the time, every now again, from time to time. Yes, blasphemy I know....it’s just when it starts felling like work......and having to occasionally go to work doesn’t help.
Fortunately I’m only working in unoccupied mansions that nobodies been in. Still a worry as your never sure if/when maintenance/staff people have been in. But compared to most I cannot complain.

I did throw on 4/21/84 yesterday, though only background listening on the iPad...but it did seem like a good show. I have a tape of second set but don’t recall anything about it so guessing I didn’t listen to it much? Prolly didn’t sound good, I’ll have to dig it out just for shits and giggles? Of course having my “favorite” ending combo probably had something to do with that also? 😉 Sorry, that probably offends someone so I’ll apologize now.

So I’ll try and throw on 5/10/91 under similar circumstances today, but at least I’ll get an introduction to it....

INGRISHTOWN: I believe WTJ, Deadvikes? someone wanted to wait on that until end of summer?
I’m with Gollum, it’s a great show but not a top 77 show personally, and of course 77 isn’t a go to year for moi...ooops, sorry, probably offended someone else now too...ok, need another fatty...dammit Pedro. shut up and get back to the last row where you belong, lol

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:08

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I always will give a show a shot, because you never know. Thanks GOGD. 84 is not a go to year for me. It will be interesting how Dave's 35 will compare to this show.
Jim, I listen to the unofficial releases through Relisten (thanks to Oroborous!). It doesn't tell me the exact source, but it was the first SBD FLAC option listed, so it probably was the Miller.

Englishtown is another epic show, their first show back since Mickey's accident in June. Just think if they kept playing that summer? They were hot.

First Truckin since their return in 1976. Terrapin encore, come on! Gollum, time for another listen.

I might listen to this one again soon, just talking about it makes me want to.

I am in for a 91 show. Thanks gents.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:14

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I think Sixtus turned me on to the app., so we should thank him!
Which I believe if you choose a version, and then go to the bottom of the song list page, it shows the archive number...I know it’s in there someplace it’s just harder to find?

EDIT: yep, just checked, on bottom of song page it says “view at archive.org” and lists there which version.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:15

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Not a 77 fan?? We take all fans over here. 30 years and always changing.
Hang loose.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:23

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I’ve never said I’m not a fan, it’s just not a top year for me is all, personally I love all the years combined, and I’ll give any show a try, especially the weird ones! Lol I will concur that 77 is perhaps the best overall consistently good, night after night, year in the catalog, it’s just personally not a favorite...just not weird enough..and only clarifying because I don’t want to offend anyone.

Hi Ya!

Good to see ya all over here today..

Digging the comments, keep 'em comin'... that's some funny shit.

This show has some spark in it's step so far.

Bruce gets Jerry inspired.

'77 is not really a go to year for me either... not knockin' it, just saying.

I'll come clean, I've always puzzled over Cornell. I mean back in the day, we played that tape non-stop because it's good.
But most of all, it sounded great (all be it fast / my tape needed some serious pitch correction) and we didn't have a whole lot of Great sounding tapes.

But now with all the other stuff.. is it the greatest thing ever? A subject for endless debate.

No Dark Star, PITB, Bird Song, I'd pick 9/21/72 over it, just as a quick example.
(Man really love that show especially after the recent relisten.)

Again, not knockin' but since OB is feeling feisty I figured I'd stir the pot, or is it smoke the pot?

Be Well, fun to hear you all!

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:40

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Thanks for the tips and encouragment. I will definitely keep working on this one. It's been a tough nut to crack, but sometimes those have the sweetest meat. Queueing up 5/10/91.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:48

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I'm with Oroborous on '77. Early on I settled into 77 and 74 and my comfort food go to years, but I listened to so much '77, mainly because there is/was so much of it, that I guess I built up a tolerance or something, it takes more '77 to get me off (which by the way is exactly was the Swing did.. that one was extra potency, Grade A ).

I do really, really like 1977 and respect it for what it is. Like dating a supermodel.. after a couple years the 68 and 74 flawed but fun hippie chicks get you in their gravitational pull.

Thanks for the pick Jim. Sound quality is really good so far. Just started and we get a Maggie's Farm!

Okay, remind me later not to pick any 77 for you guys.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 10:14

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I'm actually scrubbing a floor right now. haha lol

Like the other day when I was painting and 'Masterpiece' came on.

By the way, 7-1-79 is better than I remembered. I do also want to check out 7-1-80 San Diego. I used to have a really good tape of that, straight from DAT.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 10:18

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....5.10.91's first set ends with a Don't Sleaze Me In. Skip? or play?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 11:33

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What Jim said, especially about the Shwwwwiiiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!

What Vguy said, dudes on fire today!

Did someone say Four Winds Blow? Where art thou Four Winds?

GOGD, yes!

5/10/91: so far so good, first set is solid! More I get to know 91 better, the more I dig! Good call!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:04

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.....Spent a little time on the mountain, spent a little time on the hill. Now THIS memory isn't fuzzy at all. Recall it like yesterday,

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:49

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from the Europe 81 tour, I always thought the Barcelona show on 10-19 was the best of the tour but this 10-6-show is quite good also, check them out.
For something completely different try 6-24-70, just an awesome Dark Star in the last electric set. Enjoy

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:50

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I'm really loving all the keyboard work on this show. Bobby really goes to town on Stagger Lee. I don't know that I've heard a better "Saint". This is a hot show.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 15:34

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All good listens that I'm looking forward to hearing again very soon. There are many highlights from each of these 'End of Summer' shows. Good for a spin any time though, really...

Made it up to Bird Song on the Shoreline (so far). I kind of got sidetracked by 7-1-79 (man, that is an underrated show) Pretty sure we've covered it here already, though...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 16:10

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You guys can pick 1977 any time you want.. it is a truly monumental year. My advise to you is don't listen to a word I say.. :D

If we do go down the 77 path.. Baltimore is the abandoned stepchild. Sort of the Cinderella story of Spring '77.

As for 9/2/80, killer Oroborous. Were at Richmond 85 too? I think yes.. which makes that release (DiP 21) a twofer for you. Outstanding. We should do or both of those shows at some point. Being at Richmond myself.. I like the other show just as much... outstanding news.

Speaking of twofers, well.. this one is a threefer. I was doing my morning bike ride relistening to Jai Alai and just as Weather Report Suite drifted into Let It Grow, I caught this mother and two cubs sitting under a shade tree on a farm in the middle of the ride. ..about 20 yards away. Very cool.. bears are here but they sleep a lot during the day and you really don't see them all that much. It was very cool, but about scairt me right off my bicycle. Perhaps I should have shared this on the Dave's Picks thread.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 16:14

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The mid-set 1st China>Rider is over the top, too!

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 19:37

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Springfield.... Scarlet>Fire and Help>Slipknot>Franklins..... Not in same show again until the 90's....... also a really good audience exists as well as boards... Keith is very predominant on the audience...... Have a good night everyone... bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 21:14

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Don't forget The Palladium show from 4/30/77, which is also from the Download Series #1. Melt your face Half Step, Peggy O, etc. etc. Yes, high quality from start to finish.

I think Half Step peaked in 77. Oh crap, did I say that out loud?

Loving the 91 show from today's pick. Thanks Jim. Sound quality and performance are both great. Need to finish it up tomorrow morning. I think I have said it before but for me 1991 has surprised me on how good some of these shows were. Seems like they were better than fall 1990 after they returned after Brent.

Be well folks.

Agree on the Palladium shows, you'd have to think they will come out as a box set at some point. Also the Capitol Theatre shows were recorded on black and white video.. considering what they are, it'd be great if they made those available when the remaining shows are released.

What's in store for today? Was there a suggestion nested a few comments back in this thread?

I think we should conspire together and up the ante to three shows a day and see the reaction on DeadheadBrewer. Will it drive him over the edge and put him in the white room?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:19

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Loved5/10/91, what’s on tap today? No net yet where I’m working so need to download something now before I leave....???

PS, unfortunately wasn’t at Richmond ☹️

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:33

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or Spring '89. Many shows in April or May to choose from. I like the idea of 10-6 0r 10-19-81 and seeing what pops out at me from those, too.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:40

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Got Any '77 you wanna listen too OB? ;)

All that '77 talk yesterday.. might have to look at one of them there and see.

We have already listened to the following:
5/08/77
5/11/77
5/13/77
5/19/77
5/28/77
6/04/77
6/09/77

So other than the legendary April - May time frame there's still lots to choose from, you got Feb, June, Oct, Nov, Dec.
All kinds of stuff!

Who's got a pick, I'm eyeballing a number of Dave's & Dick's in '77 I haven't listened to in a while.

Great Pick yesterday Jim!

In the meantime I'ma gonna go check out these Bear Drops :)

EDIT: Or like WTJ says Spring Summer '89.. so much to choose from!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:06

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Finished up this gem this morning. What a great show. Upper eschelon Dead in my book. Highlights for me are Maggie's Farm, SOC, Truckin, New Speedway Boogie combo, so good. Black Peter, Sugar Mag with a sweet It's All Over Now encore.
Good call Jim!
Sound we do the next night 5/11/91??
Or wait a 77 pick? What?

Quick question on these recordings from the Archive. When the source states recorded by Healy and Pearson. Does that mean these are their actual tapes of the shows? Since they were both employed by the Dead, does that mean these are the official versions?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:25

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Let's do a different show instead of 5/11/91 since that was the Shakedown Stream about a month ago.. just saying.

As far as the Healy / Pearson Tapes on Archive. Based on the source info these are Transfers from Pearson's Cassette Master of the show. And real sweet transfers with good equipment. What circulates all appear to be UltraMatrix'd with ambience, cause that's what they were doing then. So.. these Pearson tapes are pretty much as good as you can get, without you know "plangent process" it or "Normanizing" it ala whatever far out processes they do, which costs a bunch of cash. You gotta pay Jefferey for all those hours put in, etc... That's a big process and expensive. Bottom line, these "tapes" you mention are amazing.

Now the question is.. are there multi-track of these same shows in the Vault?
Answer appears to be in some cases yes. I was surprised the other day reading an article Blair Jackson did with Phil in 1990 when he was working on Without A Net and he said in that interview that they had Multi-Track as far back through 1987. If that's correct, which is not confirmed in anyway I can tell, then it's possible there's Multi-Track of some of the earlier shows that year, ie Spring Tour, which would be GREAT!

The UltraMatrix from that tour have too much ambience mixed in and are more like good audience tapes. But I know that there's a clean SBD of Hartford '87, DL's first show, cause he played it on the Taper's Section and it's a different source than the UltraMatrix sources that are floating around.

Alright, just had to geek out a bit as this fascinates me and always has.

BTW Let It Grow from 10/11/77 is shredding!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:38

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Thanks for the info on these shows GOGD. Fascinating to me anyway and the shows on the archive are definitely hit or miss and I really keep an eye out for Healy and Pearson.

Make the call for today. Thanks Man.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:52

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Yeah, Miller is amazing.

As for a show today, I was hoping one of those ‘77 gurus would make a suggestion.

Maybe the hacked up RT V1 N2 10/14/77?
PITB > Brokedown > PITB is calling me.

Whole show or the whole Compilation release. Either way.

But if there’s a better pick, I’m hip.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 10:23

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It’s on man!

October 1977 here we come, show us whatcha got :)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 12:43

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He’s tripping.. don’t worry he’ll be alright.
It only last a number of hours depending on what was ingested.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 18:19

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raise ya a Moose!
Was hauling ass down the mountain from Bachelor Gultch ala Henry, and luckily put my brakes on for that corner if you please right before the Ritz, when out jumped a huge Bull Moose! I’m not sure who was more freaked out? So seeing as I’m driving one of those dinky company transit vans (ours have polka dots, don’t ask....) so they look like a clown car or ice cream truck. (Children have run out with a dollar mistakenly) So of course the larger vehicle rule applied (hey, it was a big Moose) and so I hit the brakes and gave em some space, and luckily once he gathered his thoughts, he bolted, which was nice, because if he thought I was a threat he could have stomped and crushed my little van like a beer can!
Funny part was I had on its all over now baby blue from 5/10/91 again since I left before we picked today and I have no net where I’m working. Funny because a few seconds earlier and it might of been all over! Lol
But what a great show, we should definitely do 5/12 one of these days since I believe GOGD or ? said the shows got better every night of that run, which considering how good the first 2 are is enticing...
But hopefully tomorrow we can get a pick before I have to leave at 8:30 MST so I can download from Relisten and hang with the cool kids? I’m down for whatever: 91, 77, 81, some more 84.....it’s all good!
Let me know...till next time,
Buenos nachos mi amigos!