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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #981
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    Jim’s back with a big blast

    Street legal? I didn’t think public consumption was legal anywhere, technically of course, now in reality…

    Carful about splinters on that flag pole, bet there’s a nice breeze up there though!

    78 box. I didn’t get cause I turned my nose up “ohhh, I don’t need that…” IDIOT!
    Prolly pissed that it wasn’t something i “wanted”? Whatevs…idiot!
    That and I knew I could get copies off my cousin…, but still, IDIOT!
    I do have copies so I’ve heard it, and at first was like meh. But after “discovering” spring 78 and how much I liked it, I’ve come to a different realization of the year and box, but…but, I should spend some more time, just when…?

    Made it through 73 box once so far. Haven’t been getting the best listens in (these shows are so long) and it’s just not a good time of year to completely clear mind and listen hard for 4 or 5 hours.

    I think the sound is mostly great, the art was nice, and the shows are good, (the packaging was not practical) but I respectfully disagree that their all top shelf. They all have moments, but I didn’t feel like they were at that level for the whole show, which is why I wouldn’t call em all top shelf…so, a solid enjoyable box from one of my favorite years, but I think there’s still better…

    So, I respectfully disagree that we’re running out of high caliber shows, definitely diminished but, consider just some of these: first and foremost I’d say the first six shows of 73 are as good or better than these. 2/9 is good, but way overhyped due to years of taper bias. I think it’s as good as most of the shows in the box, but not as good as the other five, but would be a good center point of a very strong box!
    I still think there’s good primal, though why they won’t break out I can’t fathom…
    There’s still some killer shows from late 71 after KG joined…certainly some hot spring shows too, but not sure they’d sell as well?
    There’s still some killer fall 72, though you’d think they’d wait on that a bit!
    A plethora of 73! Winter, spring, summer, fall…(ok, prolly will never see a horn tour box) but some representation would be nice. I still say Providence, or Syracuse would make a nice WOTF 50th bonus since their killer shows and have the most songs off the album (6 I think?).
    Unless they did a Winterland 74 redo (which I don’t see), 74 prolly doesn’t have a box left.
    76 could do another summer box
    77 I hope not as it’s over represented, comparatively, but I’m sure there’s some small holes still
    78: Spring still has some great shows, some Betty’s, and possibly fall, but I’m not as up on those yet?
    79…? not sure about a box? If they made it a 79 box of the whole year, than absolutely!
    80, same thing. Of course that’s predicated on Fall tapes not being available…otherwise!
    I could name lots of 80s, especially early, but of course that means cassettes, which to some immediately discounts or outright disqualifies…to each there own. I think their getting pretty damn good at fixing them up, but whatevs…
    Still hope someday, unfortunately I don’t see it soon, but someday we’ll get a summer 85.
    86 through 88, prolly not, though when we’re gone or not as involved, maybe they’ll market something 87 for all the touchers? Of course if they did more venue boxes, i.e., Greek, Frost etc, many of these could come into play

    But!!, but, there is still a fine trove of untapped Multies from 89, especially the fall tour (wtf Dave?) and lots of good DATs from the nineties which did have some consistently good tours: summer 90, fall 91, summer 91, some call out spring 91, but I’ve not spent enough time there yet to opinion?
    I could argue others, but I don’t see it from a marketing standpoint?
    I’m sure heads are spinning and many would argue otherwise. But I’ve put the time in, and if you strip the preconceived pretentious BS and just listen, you’d be surprised.
    And though there may NOT be enough good/consistent left for a lot of boxes, there’s tons of individual and small runs, that are very good GD. Hell, they could always do another 30 trips, say for the 60th in gulp, 2 years!
    I mean, I get what yer saying, but the more I dig through the years, all the years, I’m still finding juicy nugs of goodness, even some hiding up there where mama hides the cookies!
    Be well, stay cool all!
    In fact, stay inside where it’s cool, and PLAY DEAD!

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    What a surprise that box was.. love that box. The June '76 recordings seemed to be on the same level (excellent) but the energy was not quite there.

    So we have two May '77 Betty Boxes (both excellent) and a June '76 and July '78 box (again, both excellent with a big nudge going to 1978). With Spring '73 and October '72 boxes released, I hate to say it but I am not sure I see a long stream of shows at this high caliber. Let's hope Dave has some more surprises up his sleeve.

    It's been so damned hot here in the East the last week.. and with my air conditioner on the fritz, the only way I could find to break the heat was to take off all my clothes and perch myself on the top of the telephone pole in the town park. Looking at temperatures across the county (and globe), I expect many of you were in the same predicament.

    I'm going to hit some of the July box this afternoon.. might start with the second set of 7/5 and work my way backwards to 7/1. 7/7 and 7/8 deserve special treatment and a large span of uninterrupted time.

    oh.. Maryland went legal on 7/1. It did not take long for at least the streets in the mountainous parts to smell like a Grateful Dead Concert.. was that haze in the sky residual smoke from the Great Canadian fires of 2023 or celebratory smoke signals from the newest state to go street legal? I never expected this to happen in my lifetime.. little by little they are decriminalizing the freak flag.

    Happy summer all.. thanks for keeping up the good vibes and keeping the picks on-point.

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    Always dug that and considered it the sleeper. All Over Now, check that out. As Jim would say, Wowow stuff. Also, the meat of set II is where it's at. Of course, the Weirdness>Wharf Rat but that whole set II jam sequence is powerhouse stuff. Plus, don't they encore with Promised Land? May be sui generis, only time that happened. Anyway, great stuff with the Oroboros sculpture in the back watchin' over things... :-)

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    When this was first released I said this was the sleeper of the batch. SO damn good and under the radar. Having heard 2 of the 5 shows already 7-3 impressed me the most at the time and still is impressive.
    The July '78 box is the best box design of the lot IMO.
    Cheers
    7-8-78 cued up on the tape deck. Aside from the tape flip the late-90s bootleg CD source was superb sound. Easily equal to the official release. In some ways better in that I can hear the amps buzzing right before the 2nd set begins.

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    Yes, it sounds like a great time to have seen them. I agree with Deadvikes - 7/3 is another top show. Especially the second set. The pre drums jam seemed like the highlight- in fact I was going to miss out the drums and following songs. It would have been a mistake, though - NFA and Stella Blue are also exceptional.#
    I have just had a look in the Taping Compendium, to see what they though of this show. Not much, by the looks of things! Oh well - my gain.

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    I do feel lucky DV. Got to see 4 shows in a row so to speak.
    7-7-78 Listened from the parking lot dodging security. Had to work, got off early, went without a ticket, ended up rescuing stranded friends who were having a little tiff with their ride.
    7-8-78 Technically my first show. A rip-snorter if there ever was one to end the tour. Now with legendary status.
    8-30-78 The very next show. They loved Red Rocks and rewarded us with the new Shakedown tunes. Short notice almost unannounced dates added to begin the tour. Just exactly perfect and so different from the July shows.
    8-31-78 Capping off a monumental couple of months for me.
    Those were the daze. Not so sure I got on the bus so much as the bus whizzed by and an arm grabbed me by the collar and pulled me in. A life saving gesture by the band, or so it felt.
    Cheers

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    The Dead performing at the Willie Nelson Picnic, what a scene that must have been. I really like this show (great FOD, Terrapin, Playing) and Daverock, 7/3 at the St. Paul Civic Center is another great show. Of course Firstshow was part of this scene back in July 78. Lucky Guy.

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    Sometimes when Uncle Bobo would tell them they only had another hour they would bring it all the harder, after messing with him a bit of course. This one feels a little like that. Knowing they had a time constraint didn't seem to throw them off at all. Probably looked forward to having some BBQ afterwards. Jerry seems to get some lyrics mixed up a couple times but hard to find fault with this show. The Playin' stood out nicely I thought. Really hitting their stride by then. May have to do some 45 year anniversaries this weekend. 7-7-78 seems to be calling me now after this fun one.
    Cheers
    Still haven't checked my discs yet for the RFK 4CD but I'm thinking customer service is a bit overwhelmed already reading about all the issues so no huge hurry I guess.

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    A good solid show. It seems very much to rest on Jerry's shoulders to me, and he is superb throughout. Ably supported by some nice walking bass from Mr Lesh. An early highlight for me was the solo on Friend of the Devil. The drums seemed to plod a bit, and I'm not so keen on either Bob or Keith's sound, but they are both in the background for much of the time. I thought I could hear a bit of Bob on slide a few times, but that might just have been me being paranoid.
    I think I'll go straight to the next one in the 78 box, now - 7/3/78. Or maybe 6/26/74 - it depends on how my mood is when I get to the living room.

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    Should fit in my schedule.
    Isn't that a one big set?
    Still waiting on 6-10-73 to arrive.
    Cheers

    Edit: An unexpected surprise! RFK 4-CD arrived 3 days early with no USPS notice. All set for my weekend. (faint scuffs on disc 2 but no glue anywhere with more standard packaging, but they do slide in, no plastic holders like DaPs.

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 03:47

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I see this show has been suggested a few times. I'll be interested in y'all's comments if you ever get around to it. I've never quite understood the love for this show. I know I must be missing something. I know it was one of Latvala's very favorite shows. But there's just the one big jam, the 20 min NFA. That jam never seemed to me very psychedelic, by the Dead's standards. I've never even heard or read much praise for this jam, in particular. The rest of the show has great high energy performances, but nothing unusual for 1977. Is it just the ambiance of an outdoor 1977 show? (the only outdoor 77 show?) The ambiance of a huge crowd? I know I must just be missing something. I certainly have learned to always trust Latvala!!

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 04:00

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What does it for me is the uniqueness of a few songs. The Mississippi Half Step and He's Gone is like no other for 77....... Also a very strong Estimated>Eyes sequence... bob t

I would add.. in general it's a very well played show at a mammoth outdoor concert in the greater NY area.. it took place over Labor Day weekend and in excess of 125,000 people attended. Look how fast the Giants Stadium box sold out.. NY fans are a rabid bunch.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 07:00

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I don't know Gollum, but all this talk about Englishtown... makes me curious to give it a re-listen.
What was the consensus on that, wait till later in the summer? Something like that, I believe.

4/21/84.. I agree JIMINMD, that Slipknot! cooks for sure. I dig that Set 2, some good stuff happening there, and that stoked up some excitement for DaP V35 for me. Personally, I've always been real fond of '84 and I dig the cover too.
Pre-order is 7/17, when do they usually ship, I can't remember? I guess I could look...

Alright, what should we listen to today?

BTW I'd be down to re-listen to 9/20/70 this week, but maybe over the weekend when everyone can give it some proper attention, just putting it out there again ;)

Jim in Midi ;)

Yeah man, I'll follow your foolish heart off the path to Shoreline 5/10/91 (puns all intended, 2nd cup of coffee over here).

Looks fun, and for the record we've only had 1 yes count it 1 pick from '91 in the close to 4 months we've been doing this and that was 9/10/91 on 4/23/20. However, the bro / sis of this show 5/11/91 was watched by many on Shakedown Stream about a month ago.

Alright, there's your fun facts for the day ladies & germs.

Let's do this, thanks Jim!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 08:48

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.....lemme check my shows attended. Yup. I was present and accounted for. Good show!! Good pick!!
If i recall correctly, which is a stretch, this run of shows was an example of the each show getting better and better. The show on the 12th was Mother's Day. Bunch of mom's and roses in attendance. The memory is a grate place to visit.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:05

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Yes, please try again on Englishtown. Many days I consider it my all-time favorite show . . . the energy and enthusiasm are sky-high!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:07

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Sorry fellow pickers, been hanging out in the front too much....(seems like all I do is piss people off?)....needed to take a step back and smoke some fatties and mellow back in the last row for a while. Unlike y’all I need to take a time out from all dead, all the time, every now again, from time to time. Yes, blasphemy I know....it’s just when it starts felling like work......and having to occasionally go to work doesn’t help.
Fortunately I’m only working in unoccupied mansions that nobodies been in. Still a worry as your never sure if/when maintenance/staff people have been in. But compared to most I cannot complain.

I did throw on 4/21/84 yesterday, though only background listening on the iPad...but it did seem like a good show. I have a tape of second set but don’t recall anything about it so guessing I didn’t listen to it much? Prolly didn’t sound good, I’ll have to dig it out just for shits and giggles? Of course having my “favorite” ending combo probably had something to do with that also? 😉 Sorry, that probably offends someone so I’ll apologize now.

So I’ll try and throw on 5/10/91 under similar circumstances today, but at least I’ll get an introduction to it....

INGRISHTOWN: I believe WTJ, Deadvikes? someone wanted to wait on that until end of summer?
I’m with Gollum, it’s a great show but not a top 77 show personally, and of course 77 isn’t a go to year for moi...ooops, sorry, probably offended someone else now too...ok, need another fatty...dammit Pedro. shut up and get back to the last row where you belong, lol

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:08

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I always will give a show a shot, because you never know. Thanks GOGD. 84 is not a go to year for me. It will be interesting how Dave's 35 will compare to this show.
Jim, I listen to the unofficial releases through Relisten (thanks to Oroborous!). It doesn't tell me the exact source, but it was the first SBD FLAC option listed, so it probably was the Miller.

Englishtown is another epic show, their first show back since Mickey's accident in June. Just think if they kept playing that summer? They were hot.

First Truckin since their return in 1976. Terrapin encore, come on! Gollum, time for another listen.

I might listen to this one again soon, just talking about it makes me want to.

I am in for a 91 show. Thanks gents.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:14

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I think Sixtus turned me on to the app., so we should thank him!
Which I believe if you choose a version, and then go to the bottom of the song list page, it shows the archive number...I know it’s in there someplace it’s just harder to find?

EDIT: yep, just checked, on bottom of song page it says “view at archive.org” and lists there which version.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:15

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Not a 77 fan?? We take all fans over here. 30 years and always changing.
Hang loose.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:23

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I’ve never said I’m not a fan, it’s just not a top year for me is all, personally I love all the years combined, and I’ll give any show a try, especially the weird ones! Lol I will concur that 77 is perhaps the best overall consistently good, night after night, year in the catalog, it’s just personally not a favorite...just not weird enough..and only clarifying because I don’t want to offend anyone.

Hi Ya!

Good to see ya all over here today..

Digging the comments, keep 'em comin'... that's some funny shit.

This show has some spark in it's step so far.

Bruce gets Jerry inspired.

'77 is not really a go to year for me either... not knockin' it, just saying.

I'll come clean, I've always puzzled over Cornell. I mean back in the day, we played that tape non-stop because it's good.
But most of all, it sounded great (all be it fast / my tape needed some serious pitch correction) and we didn't have a whole lot of Great sounding tapes.

But now with all the other stuff.. is it the greatest thing ever? A subject for endless debate.

No Dark Star, PITB, Bird Song, I'd pick 9/21/72 over it, just as a quick example.
(Man really love that show especially after the recent relisten.)

Again, not knockin' but since OB is feeling feisty I figured I'd stir the pot, or is it smoke the pot?

Be Well, fun to hear you all!

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:40

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Thanks for the tips and encouragment. I will definitely keep working on this one. It's been a tough nut to crack, but sometimes those have the sweetest meat. Queueing up 5/10/91.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 09:48

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I'm with Oroborous on '77. Early on I settled into 77 and 74 and my comfort food go to years, but I listened to so much '77, mainly because there is/was so much of it, that I guess I built up a tolerance or something, it takes more '77 to get me off (which by the way is exactly was the Swing did.. that one was extra potency, Grade A ).

I do really, really like 1977 and respect it for what it is. Like dating a supermodel.. after a couple years the 68 and 74 flawed but fun hippie chicks get you in their gravitational pull.

Thanks for the pick Jim. Sound quality is really good so far. Just started and we get a Maggie's Farm!

Okay, remind me later not to pick any 77 for you guys.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 10:14

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I'm actually scrubbing a floor right now. haha lol

Like the other day when I was painting and 'Masterpiece' came on.

By the way, 7-1-79 is better than I remembered. I do also want to check out 7-1-80 San Diego. I used to have a really good tape of that, straight from DAT.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 10:18

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....5.10.91's first set ends with a Don't Sleaze Me In. Skip? or play?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 11:33

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What Jim said, especially about the Shwwwwiiiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!

What Vguy said, dudes on fire today!

Did someone say Four Winds Blow? Where art thou Four Winds?

GOGD, yes!

5/10/91: so far so good, first set is solid! More I get to know 91 better, the more I dig! Good call!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:04

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.....Spent a little time on the mountain, spent a little time on the hill. Now THIS memory isn't fuzzy at all. Recall it like yesterday,

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:49

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from the Europe 81 tour, I always thought the Barcelona show on 10-19 was the best of the tour but this 10-6-show is quite good also, check them out.
For something completely different try 6-24-70, just an awesome Dark Star in the last electric set. Enjoy

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Submitted by Gollum on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 12:50

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I'm really loving all the keyboard work on this show. Bobby really goes to town on Stagger Lee. I don't know that I've heard a better "Saint". This is a hot show.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 15:34

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All good listens that I'm looking forward to hearing again very soon. There are many highlights from each of these 'End of Summer' shows. Good for a spin any time though, really...

Made it up to Bird Song on the Shoreline (so far). I kind of got sidetracked by 7-1-79 (man, that is an underrated show) Pretty sure we've covered it here already, though...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 16:10

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You guys can pick 1977 any time you want.. it is a truly monumental year. My advise to you is don't listen to a word I say.. :D

If we do go down the 77 path.. Baltimore is the abandoned stepchild. Sort of the Cinderella story of Spring '77.

As for 9/2/80, killer Oroborous. Were at Richmond 85 too? I think yes.. which makes that release (DiP 21) a twofer for you. Outstanding. We should do or both of those shows at some point. Being at Richmond myself.. I like the other show just as much... outstanding news.

Speaking of twofers, well.. this one is a threefer. I was doing my morning bike ride relistening to Jai Alai and just as Weather Report Suite drifted into Let It Grow, I caught this mother and two cubs sitting under a shade tree on a farm in the middle of the ride. ..about 20 yards away. Very cool.. bears are here but they sleep a lot during the day and you really don't see them all that much. It was very cool, but about scairt me right off my bicycle. Perhaps I should have shared this on the Dave's Picks thread.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 16:14

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The mid-set 1st China>Rider is over the top, too!

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 19:37

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Springfield.... Scarlet>Fire and Help>Slipknot>Franklins..... Not in same show again until the 90's....... also a really good audience exists as well as boards... Keith is very predominant on the audience...... Have a good night everyone... bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/14/2020 - 21:14

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Don't forget The Palladium show from 4/30/77, which is also from the Download Series #1. Melt your face Half Step, Peggy O, etc. etc. Yes, high quality from start to finish.

I think Half Step peaked in 77. Oh crap, did I say that out loud?

Loving the 91 show from today's pick. Thanks Jim. Sound quality and performance are both great. Need to finish it up tomorrow morning. I think I have said it before but for me 1991 has surprised me on how good some of these shows were. Seems like they were better than fall 1990 after they returned after Brent.

Be well folks.

Agree on the Palladium shows, you'd have to think they will come out as a box set at some point. Also the Capitol Theatre shows were recorded on black and white video.. considering what they are, it'd be great if they made those available when the remaining shows are released.

What's in store for today? Was there a suggestion nested a few comments back in this thread?

I think we should conspire together and up the ante to three shows a day and see the reaction on DeadheadBrewer. Will it drive him over the edge and put him in the white room?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:19

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Loved5/10/91, what’s on tap today? No net yet where I’m working so need to download something now before I leave....???

PS, unfortunately wasn’t at Richmond ☹️

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:33

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or Spring '89. Many shows in April or May to choose from. I like the idea of 10-6 0r 10-19-81 and seeing what pops out at me from those, too.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 08:40

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Got Any '77 you wanna listen too OB? ;)

All that '77 talk yesterday.. might have to look at one of them there and see.

We have already listened to the following:
5/08/77
5/11/77
5/13/77
5/19/77
5/28/77
6/04/77
6/09/77

So other than the legendary April - May time frame there's still lots to choose from, you got Feb, June, Oct, Nov, Dec.
All kinds of stuff!

Who's got a pick, I'm eyeballing a number of Dave's & Dick's in '77 I haven't listened to in a while.

Great Pick yesterday Jim!

In the meantime I'ma gonna go check out these Bear Drops :)

EDIT: Or like WTJ says Spring Summer '89.. so much to choose from!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:06

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Finished up this gem this morning. What a great show. Upper eschelon Dead in my book. Highlights for me are Maggie's Farm, SOC, Truckin, New Speedway Boogie combo, so good. Black Peter, Sugar Mag with a sweet It's All Over Now encore.
Good call Jim!
Sound we do the next night 5/11/91??
Or wait a 77 pick? What?

Quick question on these recordings from the Archive. When the source states recorded by Healy and Pearson. Does that mean these are their actual tapes of the shows? Since they were both employed by the Dead, does that mean these are the official versions?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:25

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Let's do a different show instead of 5/11/91 since that was the Shakedown Stream about a month ago.. just saying.

As far as the Healy / Pearson Tapes on Archive. Based on the source info these are Transfers from Pearson's Cassette Master of the show. And real sweet transfers with good equipment. What circulates all appear to be UltraMatrix'd with ambience, cause that's what they were doing then. So.. these Pearson tapes are pretty much as good as you can get, without you know "plangent process" it or "Normanizing" it ala whatever far out processes they do, which costs a bunch of cash. You gotta pay Jefferey for all those hours put in, etc... That's a big process and expensive. Bottom line, these "tapes" you mention are amazing.

Now the question is.. are there multi-track of these same shows in the Vault?
Answer appears to be in some cases yes. I was surprised the other day reading an article Blair Jackson did with Phil in 1990 when he was working on Without A Net and he said in that interview that they had Multi-Track as far back through 1987. If that's correct, which is not confirmed in anyway I can tell, then it's possible there's Multi-Track of some of the earlier shows that year, ie Spring Tour, which would be GREAT!

The UltraMatrix from that tour have too much ambience mixed in and are more like good audience tapes. But I know that there's a clean SBD of Hartford '87, DL's first show, cause he played it on the Taper's Section and it's a different source than the UltraMatrix sources that are floating around.

Alright, just had to geek out a bit as this fascinates me and always has.

BTW Let It Grow from 10/11/77 is shredding!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:38

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Thanks for the info on these shows GOGD. Fascinating to me anyway and the shows on the archive are definitely hit or miss and I really keep an eye out for Healy and Pearson.

Make the call for today. Thanks Man.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 09:52

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Yeah, Miller is amazing.

As for a show today, I was hoping one of those ‘77 gurus would make a suggestion.

Maybe the hacked up RT V1 N2 10/14/77?
PITB > Brokedown > PITB is calling me.

Whole show or the whole Compilation release. Either way.

But if there’s a better pick, I’m hip.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 10:23

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It’s on man!

October 1977 here we come, show us whatcha got :)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 12:43

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He’s tripping.. don’t worry he’ll be alright.
It only last a number of hours depending on what was ingested.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 18:19

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raise ya a Moose!
Was hauling ass down the mountain from Bachelor Gultch ala Henry, and luckily put my brakes on for that corner if you please right before the Ritz, when out jumped a huge Bull Moose! I’m not sure who was more freaked out? So seeing as I’m driving one of those dinky company transit vans (ours have polka dots, don’t ask....) so they look like a clown car or ice cream truck. (Children have run out with a dollar mistakenly) So of course the larger vehicle rule applied (hey, it was a big Moose) and so I hit the brakes and gave em some space, and luckily once he gathered his thoughts, he bolted, which was nice, because if he thought I was a threat he could have stomped and crushed my little van like a beer can!
Funny part was I had on its all over now baby blue from 5/10/91 again since I left before we picked today and I have no net where I’m working. Funny because a few seconds earlier and it might of been all over! Lol
But what a great show, we should definitely do 5/12 one of these days since I believe GOGD or ? said the shows got better every night of that run, which considering how good the first 2 are is enticing...
But hopefully tomorrow we can get a pick before I have to leave at 8:30 MST so I can download from Relisten and hang with the cool kids? I’m down for whatever: 91, 77, 81, some more 84.....it’s all good!
Let me know...till next time,
Buenos nachos mi amigos!