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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    ....i got a letter in the mail yesterday notifying me of a cybersecurity incident involving a number of e-commerce websites operated by Warner Music Group.
    Quote...." On August 5, 2020, we learned that an unauthorized third party had compromised a number of US-based e-commerce websites WMG operates but that are hosted and supported by an external service provider. This allowed the unauthorized third-party to potentially acquire a copy of the personal information you entered into one or more of the affected website(s) between April 25, 2020 and August 5, 2020.
    While we cannot definitely confirm that your personal information was affected, it is possible that it might have been as your transaction(s) occurred during the period of compromise. If it was, this might have exposed you to a risk of fraudulent transactions being carried out using your details."
    Does say later that payments made through PayPal were not affected.
    I use PayPal.
    Anyone else get this letter??

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    To many Double IPAs

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    I've only seen the Rolling Stones play live one time, it was 1994 at the Voodoo Lounge tour. I really enjoyed the show. They opened the show with Not Fade Away. Apparently, they had a place there for famous people called the Voodoo Lounge, and I read that Garcia and Weir were both in there during the show. Anyways, I thought the Stones sounded great.

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    I love the Rolling Stones. I had my old man's eight tracks in the early seventies... I remember when Some Girls came out and we would continually be snatching the house copy of it back and forth from each other. I was 10.

    Seen them live several times, most recently last summer at Mile High Stadium. I have never felt that the Stones were a great live band. They're all over the goddamn place... they never sound much like their records. Which is neither here nor there, depending on what you're looking for, but they went from the raw (Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!) to the aforementioned late 70's / early 80's affairs with sped up tempos, to the glossed over machine they became on Steel Wheels to date.

    Point being, I didn't buy the Brussels Affair when it came out as I already have so many live Stones albums and rarely play them - except for Twenty Flight Rock and Going To A Go-Go off Still Life.

    I bit on the iTunes version of this. The audio is cleaned up nicely, there are a number of unearthed gems and it is a great Mick Taylor live show. I've been playing it for two days now. I think it was like twenty bucks and change. For anyone on the fence, I say, go for it.

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    Keith - that Waiting For A Friend dates from 1973. Yes, that should have been included with the extras for sure.

    Probably because I kept on seeing them - the last time was 2007, I think, I do like some of their live recordings from the 1990s up to about 2007. One thing I would highly recommend...to anyone reading this with soul...is the live versions of Gimme Shelter featuring Lisa Fischer. She truly soars through the heavens on this song. I last heard it on the blu ray Bridges to Beunos Ares, bought last week, ( which also features Bob Dylan and Mick Jagger duetting on Like A Rolling Stone - shambolic!), and it is truly amazing. Another great version is on the Totally Stripped box set- from Amsterdam 1995. The sound is incredible on this-Keith Richards sounds as though he is in the room with you - which might or might not be a good thing. One of the remarkable things about the Bridges to Beunos Ares blu ray is the massive crowd, which goes absolutely bananas from the first song.

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    What I wouldn't give to have seen them with Mick Taylor! Yes they were outstanding onstage in those days, and to be honest, I never would have known it if I hadn't stumbled on the "Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones" movie concert a year or two before they released Brussels Affair.

    I was watching VH-1 or AXS (one of those music TV stations), and wham, he'll right in the middle of the opener, Brown Sugar. The thing they caught me first was that Mick Jagger was actually singing, not huffing and puffing out the lyrics. Up until that time I had only heard live albums from the Ron Wood era: Love You Live, Still Life, and Flashpoint, all of which pretty much featured a band whizzing through songs, sloppy as can be. I assumed Mick Jagger was simply just a studio singer, and pretty much the same of Keith as a guitar player. I enjoyed the Hits From The Ron Wood years, but certainly not the live content.

    I had been a fan of the Brian Jones and especially the Mick Taylor years for quite some time without ever hearing the band play live from '71 - '73. Then along came the movie concert from '72 on TV, and whoa - Mick was singing! Actually singing. Keith was at his legendary best, which I had also taken as myth, and Mick Taylor was everything and more on stage (he quietly sat back and played his ass off loudly, and with all the virtuoso we hear from him in the studio). Keith (by his own admission) once famously spent a couple of hours in the studio improvising a bridge or solo, or something, and was really just at his wits end trying to land the right notes. Taylor wasn't there, but he eventually showed up, listened for a couple of minutes, picked up his guitar and played exactly what Keith was struggling for. This was close to the end of Mick's tenure with the band; Keith turned to him and only half-jokingly said, "that's why I hate you man." Mick was light years ahead of the rest of the band musically.

    The Goats Head box would be worth it for any casual to serious Stones fan who doesn't already own The Brussels Affair. My commentary on that show was strictly in comparison to the '72 Ladies and Gentlemen release. If I didn't already have Brussels, I would snatch up the box on release day. It would have been nice for them to have included the embryonic Waiting on a Friend. I was also hoping for the rumored extended version of Dancing with Mr D.

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    What I wouldn't give to have seen them with Mick Taylor! Yes they were outstanding onstage in those days, and to be honest, I never would have known it if I hadn't stumbled on the "Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones" movie concert a year or two before they released Brussels Affair.

    I was watching VH-1 or AXS (one of those music TV stations), and wham, he'll right in the middle of the opener, Brown Sugar. The thing they caught me first was that Mick Jagger was actually singing, not huffing and puffing out the lyrics. Up until that time I had only heard live albums from the Ron Wood era: Love You Live, Still Life, and Flashpoint, all of which pretty much featured a band whizzing through songs, sloppy as can be. I assumed Mick Jagger was simply just a studio singer, and pretty much the same of Keith as a guitar player. I enjoyed the Hits From The Ron Wood years, but certainly not the live content.

    I had been a fan of the Brian Jones and especially the Mick Taylor years for quite some time without ever hearing the band play live from '71 - '73. Then along came the movie concert from '72 on TV, and whoa - Mick was singing! Actually singing. Keith was at his legendary best, which I had also taken as myth, and Mick Taylor was everything and more on stage (he quietly sat back and played his ass off loudly, and with all the virtuoso we hear from him in the studio). Keith (by his own admission) once famously spent a couple of hours in the studio improvising a bridge or solo, or something, and was really just at his wits end trying to land the right notes. Taylor wasn't there, but he eventually showed up, listened for a couple of minutes, picked up his guitar and played exactly what Keith was struggling for. This was close to the end of Mick's tenure with the band; Keith turned to him and only half-jokingly said, "that's why I hate you man." Mick was light years ahead of the rest of the band musically.

    The Goats Head box would be worth it for any casual to serious Stones fan who doesn't already own The Brussels Affair. My commentary on that show was strictly in comparison to the '72 Ladies and Gentlemen release. If I didn't already have Brussels, I would snatch up the box on release day. It would have been nice for them to have included the embryonic Waiting on a Friend. I was also hoping for the rumored extended version of Dancing with Mr D.

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    Billly the Kid - excellent cut by Little Walter. I have never heard anyone who made a harmonica sound so expressive-wonderful tone. Having said that, apart from Charlie Musslewhite ( and even there, I am not familiar with his music) I have never even heard of the other harp players you refer to. Some checking out to do, I think.

    Keith - I enjoyed reading your thoughts on Goats Head Soup. I was 16 when that came out, and as I had a ticket to see them the month it came out-September 1973 - I thought I'd buy it to get some idea of what they sounded like. It was the first Stones album I got - I just had a vague memory of their singles at this point. In comparison with contemporaneous offerings by David Bowie, Black Sabbath Hawkwind etc it sounded quite middle of the road. The only track that really rocked was Starfucker. I can remember the press making much of the fact that Mick Jagger was now 30, and whether he was now too pooped to pop ( seemingly unaware that many of the new glam breed were about the same age).
    But live...they were amazing !-a fantastic night. Suddenly, Goats Head Soup shot up in my estimation and I began buying all their other albums. Today, I rank it with the 4 others from Beggars Banquet onwards-although most people rate it less highly than the 4 that came before it.

    This new edition looks like the rip off of the year. As you say, Brussels Affair has already been released as a download. The price of it is ridiculous, too. It all meant so much to me at the time though, that I am still sort of tempted.

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    . https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xj7gwFOvcM. Send this one out to Dave Rock , over in England. I also dedicate this to Charlie Musselwhite, Gary Smith, Mark Ford and Rick Estrin, the greatest blues harmonica players alive.

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    Thanks for posting this article. Every six months or so I check to see if there are any plans for the type of reissue of this album that Sticky Fingers and Exile received. Those two records had fantastic unreleaseded live tracks and studio outtakes.

    What a disappointment to hear they're simply re-releasing The Brussels Affair as the companion piece. I already own the digital copy that was on the Rolling Stones website 8 years ago. It would be like reissuing American Beauty with the Download Series show from October '71. No sense in re-spending money on that - it's already been engineered and mastered professionally. Strike 1.

    The author of the article is correct in saying that the two standout tracks from The Brussels affair are You Can't Always Get What You Want and Midnight Rambler. Probably the two best live versions of those songs. Beyond that, the album is a starfucker less than Ladies and Gentlemen The Rolling Stones (this was the movie from the Exile on Main St tour that was in movie theaters shortly after the Exile tour, and then shelved for 30 years; eventually it was released on Blu-ray and then later on CD). Brussels is a great live show, don't misunderstand me, but Ladies and Gentlemen is from a year earlier, has almost the exact same setlist, and is played a little bit tighter and sung a little bit better). The primary difference is more Goats Head songs that don't measure up to the songs they replace from the Exile concert (which itself is the best of four shows). Beyond Doo x5 (Heartbreaker) and Dancing with Mr. D, the live Goats Head tracks don't really do much for me. Did I mention they already released this almost 10 years ago? Strike 2.

    The author of the article stated he could "imagine how much of a bummer Goats Head Soup must have felt in the moment. But for those of us who came along later, and without the generational baggage, Goats Head Soup has an incredible, melancholic beauty".
    I was a year-and-a-half-old when this record came out, and I have to disagree with him on this point. It has three great songs on it and a whole lot of missed opportunities that separate it from the previous four albums. It was so close to greatness too (Can You Hear The Music, Hide Your Love, and 100 Years Ago almost caught it) - bloody shame. By and large it does not rock, it does not transition mood easily or frequently enough, and as the author also pointed out, there are too many guest musicians (it feels very un-Stonesy). If it rocked more they could have gotten away with it; but it is primarily a morose downer, as the author implied. If I wanted melancholy I would listen to The Cure. Strike 3.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 09:51

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So happy that I got my hands on this show, now I just gotta hope that it doesn't take a month to ship :)... SO EXCITEEED

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Submitted by Coconut Phil on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 09:55

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This looks like a monster show. As always Dave continues to deliver for us. I have a feeling we will get another collection released this year. Keep jamming!

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:08

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I'm not a huge '80s fan, but this show looks like it has KILLER potential. And like I've said before, a great show from ANY year is well worth having. Thanks Dave and everyone for keeping us SO HAPPY!!
I need MORE shows!!
Stay healthy all.
Music is the best!!

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Submitted by TimP on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:16

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Sorry but I really hate putting Filler tracks on CD2 -- the whole point of Dave's Picks was to present complete shows, and if that means CD2 -> CD3 might require splitting a segue - so be it. If there is to be filler - put it at the end of CD3.

Moan over - looking forward to this as usual :)

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:21

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This is a fantastic show, top to bottom. Very solid first set. The Scarlet>Fire is one to write home about, no doubt. And look at that whole other second set from the prior night!?! Very generous offering. Looking forward to this one for sure, it's nice to have some more mid-80s as well.

Be well people.
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Submitted by reijo29 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:22

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This will be my first Day Job in my collection. I don’t think it’s ever had an official release.....

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:23

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I attended all 3 shows while I give the nod to 4/21 this one has its moments. I'm a native Philadelphian the Civic Center was an odd venue while not as flashy as the Spectrum ( RIP) & not as intimate as the Tower it had its moments of glory. The artwork is so PHILLY it's got attitude, TPTB should make this into a Ltd. Ed. shirt. How long before it sells out?

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Submitted by shwack on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:26

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Yessah!
There are many Bright, lean-in moments and passages of music during this East Coast run. Some wonderful music as the tour rolls north into New Haven and Hartford,4/23-24, onward to Providence 4/26-27.
Seem to recall some blistering Black Peters along the way. Got some Great sounding AUD Masters during this run...

Shwack in NH

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Submitted by magnolienhain on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:27

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This is going to be my first new Dave's Picks, I am very exited! So glad that I was right on time and that Dave picked a show from one of my favourite years. Will subscribe for sure in the fall. Peace!

....but the first half of the second set at the end of disc 3 and the second half at the end of disc 2 is going to require some mental rewiring while listening.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:40

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Interesting. There are two Spaces. Is one from 4-19 or did they split up the one from 4-20? At three minutes it cant be a full Space. And to deepen the mystery there is only one Drums.

At first I was thinking we're getting the full second set from 4-19 on two discs, with no encore, but now i'm not so sure.

I'm sure it will sort itself out and i'll be happy to have this show either way. Rock on!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:42

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....look at what I posted on the daves 35 page. Right below you.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:43

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Dead.net won't accept my card which it has done previously a number of times...

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:45

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This one will be a most welcome addition in my subscription. I've only heard bits and pieces of this show so it'll be like a whole new experience.

I imagine this was a fun one to attend.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:48

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it went through Paypal which of course uses the same exact card...hmmmm

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:48

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Dick's Picks 6 has a version if I remember correctly.

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Submitted by stickmon63 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 10:52

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Glad for some more mid 80s shows. This was always one of my favorite Scarlet> Fire's that I saw. I remember this run of shows in Philly, I was scared to death one of the days in the parking lot as the Pagan's (a local motorcycle gang) showed up and seemed to be having lots of fun riding around in the lot and messing w/DeadHeads. I missed the first night of the run but caught the last two and always remember my buddies being super annoyed that Jerry repeated Wharf Rat on night 1 and then again on night 3. In retrospect, NOT that big of a deal

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:05

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Cool. Then it looks like they split the space in half, which is a bit odd. Maybe there was a perfect , uh, space for the split? Extra spacy? A space in the space?

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:08

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Looking at my copy of Dick’s ‘Dex, which is easier than finding the discs, Day Job is on both DP6 (831014) and 21 (851101). I’ll try not to look forward to DaP 35 too much since it’s going to be months before I see it. Stay safe everyone.

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Submitted by USAJapan on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:09

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This is my first Dave's Picks purchase as I get most of my fixes from SiriusXM. Almost a year to the day, April 16, 1983, I drove down from Boston, paying it forward for the friend who turned me into a Deadhead by taking me to my first show. I took my best friend at the time who is Black and was one of what seemed like but only a few at the three shows we saw. I was blown away by the setlists which have always meant more to me than even how tight they play. Cameron was in awe, especially by Bill and Mickey. I was fortunate to have caught the tail end of the smaller venues before they had to play stadiums to accommodate the curious and new heads.

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Submitted by skwimite on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:09

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I shouldn't complain since I haven't received my subscription copy yet, but seeing the track listing makes me wonder what you people are thinking. In the past you've put out a skimpy disc to maintain the continuity and I'm OK with that. This conglomeration looks like something I might have done on cassettes back in the dark ages. Pack it full. Surely there was a more reasonable alternative. A gift of a yearly subscription has made Christmas shopping easy for my wife but the choices being made the last few years will have me reconsidering. The teasers for 2021 better be worthy.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:19

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- can't please everyone all the time. I love this filler arrangement. No 30 minute disc - looking at you Dave's 7 - and the second disc looks like it may flow very nicely as a mini second set with the post drums at the end there. I like it!

I am looking forward to this as it is a show I have not listened to before. What an embarrassment of riches we deadheads have to be thankful for; happy announcement day everyone!

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Submitted by hitmeister on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:34

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First, the good. This is a great show. Sometimes, I think of what would be a good show to play for someone who''s never heard that Dead before, and this one comes in near the top of the list. It has possibly the best Let It Grow I've ever heard. The Scarlet/Fire is also top shelf. Also, the Wharf Rat on the filler is one of the best versions of the song.

OTOH, the SBD that's been circulating for years is one of the best Dead recordings out there. This release is unlikely to be much of an upgrade.

There's so much great stuff from 1984 for which there are no high quality recordings available. I wish they'd release some of those. The first 2 that come to mind are 10/14 and 10/15 from Hartford. There are quite a few others.

1984's not usually my cup of cocoa, but having listened to the one in 30 Trips recently, I have to say I am looking forward to this one. Bit of a sod that some people in Europe still haven't got 34 yet, though. Sorting that out should be a priority for all concerned.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:47

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Dave kept it short. No mention of what the source of the recording was, Norman, etc. Should be interesting and I always love to get a new release.

Also, no mention of "any other releases" for the year besides Dave's Picks.
So, if there is going to be another box for this year, you would think they would make an announcement in August. Now, I am not so sure we will see anything else. Hope I am wrong.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:49

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This release reminds me of the oldie Road Trips, with filler from another show, the setlists are all over the place as well, what happened to continuity?
I would have preferred a proper full show, on three discs, sorry to gripe, but I feel disappointed, hopefully, Dave's effervescence of "this my favorite version of this track" multiple times can make the elongated wait worthwhile for us across in Europe.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 12:04

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Hey now, looking forward to this release, lots of good stuff on this one, plus almost the entire second set from the night before sans drums and the Baby blue encore. Now which drums will we get? the one from 4-20 or 19? and is that both spaces? To make it complete, I think the drums is from 4-20 and they used both spaces due to the fact that the wheel comes out of space and you sometimes just can't separate those two.
I think they could have split it differently, put all of 4-20 but the Day Job encore on disc 1 & 2, then start off disc three with Chinacat and let the second set from 4-19 be it's own disc with the Day Job encore from 4-20 on the end of disc 3. It just looks kinda weird the way that it's split up and I may be off base here and it may sound great, but I would have done it different.
As said before by others, there are great sounding SB's of these shows out there to be had, I too would like something released that isn't readily available for download in good quality. Still, that all being said, I am looking forward to this release and when it comes, I will rearrange it if need be.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 12:12

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I rip these to my i-tunes as soon as they come in and order the tracks however I want to. So i'll be separating these into a 4-19 and a 4-20 before I ever hear them. I figured I was a dinosaur by still even wanting discs, but it sounds like a lot of you actually spin the discs. I can see the tracking being problematic in that case, but surprised everyone is not listening to these digitally.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 12:56

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Don't matter to me. I just always hope, that if they have the rest of the show in equal quality, they release that whole show someday.

I assume they put them on disc 2 because of size issues.

Slow Dog - surprised people don't listen digitally? Some will argue quality, but if you rip to disk as wav file, you have no quality loss. A 128g memory stick will hold about 180 albums. Why lug around shiny spinning media?

Digital music, the only proof of god. Oh, and the dead.

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Submitted by Ursa Minor on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 13:29

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Hey Now, I really appreciate looking into the 80's decade of the GD's career. I'm sure classic GD from the late 60's and 70's are probably more popular and easier to market BUT at some time you have to market outside the box ! I'm NOT a fan of filler per se and I'm not a fan of some of the edits in the second sets but I suppose in the future, we will have complete access to download the vault instead of the drip drip drip approach ( I know professional mastering ain't cheap and takes time but ...)

I think this show of the run is the best ... for so many years , we heard the HQ audience tape of the last night, but the performance should always rule over a "cool set list" . I've really been pulling for a release of July 4th 1984 from Cedar Rapids but I suppose in due time ... As for the source on this show ... is a Master Cassette, or possibly a early PCM digital copy?

How bout a good Halloween box set ???

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Submitted by annalee10 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 14:02

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Love the filler!!!!! I have listened to the dead almost every day for forty years and I seldom listen to a full show all the way thru. The more music they put on the cds the better. The recent Dekalb release with 3 songs on the second cd was dying for filler.
Saw the New Haven show on 4-23 a couple days after these philly shows and had a blast. Hopefully the sound quality on this release is good.
Lots of gratitude that these releases keep coming! Stay kind everyone!

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Submitted by PyiteWilson on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 14:07

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In a perfect world, 4/19 and 4/20 would both fit onto three discs, with continuity amongst sets. I didn't do the math with track times.. could both shows fit on a four disc set? That would be cool. Alas, this beautiful rock we're all spinning on ain't perfect last time I checked. I appreciate squeezing some more material onto Dave's 35. I will happily forego continuity in track listing in order to maximize sonic capacity on the upcoming set. It'd be cool to have it all in order, but let's face it...this whole worlds out of order! Enjoy the music friends, we will get by.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 14:41

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It seems alright to me. The one medium that is crying out for fillers is vinyl. 5/19/74 has two sides that feature just one track each - coming to just over 6 minutes. Its barely worth sitting back down after putting one of those sides on - they are over before you put your feet up. I'm all for preserving the flow-but that seemed a bit wasteful.

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Submitted by ShaggyFraggle on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 14:59

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What's there to be upset about with philler and split sets? Have you never stepped into a chrono-synclastic infundibulum? I fart at your hangups on linear time.

God bless you, Mr. Vonnegut.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 15:10

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I was kind of looking forward to another show from '84 but that filler arrangement has dampened my enthusiasm substantially. I really can't get my head around jamming the filler in the middle of space, which is what is appears to have been done. Did you ever squeeze more onto a cassette by breaking up a song with the added material? I mean really, I think you have to go back to the 8-Track format for that kind of experience outside of this release. I guess the question "Who does that?" has been answered.

Edit: And now that I think of it, the 8-Track format didn't even put something else in the middle of a song.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 15:19

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After only 4 pages of comments, we have:
I don’t like extra tracks
The extra tracks are on the wrong disc
The extra tracks are in the wrong order
I don’t know what the source is
This show is not a good enough upgrade
This is the wrong show to release from this tour
I don’t like HOW you put the extra tracks in
I don’t want filler
I don’t like the edits
The show could(should) have been split differently
The best is the implied threat:
Next years teasers BETTER BE GOOD!!
Or what?? Bodily harm may come??

Whatever happened to just THANK YOU??
Most people were happy, but I am just Flabbergasted at the quantity & breadth of the complaints. We’re lucky Dave doesn’t just say “OK, so you know better, do it yourself, I’m outta here”
C’mon folks, can’t we just be grateful?? I remember my nieces & nephews grumbling about Christmas gifts, but after all, they were between the ages of 10-17.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 15:26

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I hear you to some extent Mr. Ones. I rarely complain about these releases, on any level, but this filler arrangement bugs me and I want them to know how their consumers feel, or at least how this consumer feels. No disrespect intended to anyone. As far as the reaction of nieces and nephews to Christmas gifts, I can't really speak to your experience there, but this is not a gift it is a product that I am purchasing. If it were a gift I would not complain. But I do dig the complaining about the complainers, I think I may have done that a few times myself.

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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 16:16

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After I listen to a release with filler once I burn the show inline

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Submitted by The Grog on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 16:32

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This 3 night run at The Philadelphia Civic Center was absolutely amazing! The Dead were unable to book the beloved Spectrum for the days that they wanted so chose to try out the Philadelphia Civic Center instead. The amount of zaniness that transpired at these shows is legendary. We had some very bizarre things happen each of these three nights and it just added to the electricity of these shows. Hard to pick out a favorite but 4-20 was a smoker (pun intended) for sure. It was so crazy here that they were never able to go back there again. The end of each show was absolute chaos. The building was very old and very cool. But the parking was not very ideal, particularly for Deadheads. The building was in the middle of the University City section of Philadelphia, right near Drexel and The University of Pennsylvania. The biggest parking lots were ACROSS the street from the venue! Across a very busy city street. The result was thousands of heads spilling down the steps onto the street each night right into traffic. Of course traffic was brought to a standstill which resulted in heads literally crawling and walking across cars as those behind didn't know what was happening. Just a total Philly Phrenzy. I loved all my hometown shows. God bless David Lemieux and The Grateful Dead for releasing yet another Philly classic. The Boys definitely loved coming to our town every year!

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Submitted by blueskluz on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 16:37

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I am always very pleased with the shows that are put out on Dave's Picks. The only complaint that I have is to myself for not knowing about Dave's Picks earlier and getting the subscription. Thank you Dave for all the great shows and also for all the box sets. It is so cool to get official releases of the shows we all collected on tapes.

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Submitted by narutlee on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 16:41

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To my recollection, this is the FIRST complete show release from '84 (not counting 30 trips)? FIRST!

Great pick! I'm not an '84 expert....but everybody seems to point to the Greek Theater run with Dark Star. Any other recommendation? Really appreciate the recent trickling of early Brent release as the 3rd pick of the year ('83 and '79). Will be great (and nice balance) if this trend continues. 6/30/85, Greek '84, Lake Placid '83, Alaska and Alligator '80, and many many more. Dave mentioned a 1980 front runner show and June '84 for a release. Any guess?

Love the abundance of bonus material! The only way to not disrupt the flow is to split the second set between Around and Around and Johnny B Goode and tag 4/19 after that. Good either way. Thanks Dave and team!

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Submitted by P Hill on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 16:44

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been ready for this one for a good amount of calendars especially lately havent listened to music in give or take 7 months or some where there and grateful dead personally commend and respect yall who still love and jam 68 thru 74 as your perfered listening thats so far away from my function as of late and it will be wishful thinking just the thought of listening to jai alai you want to watch a grown man have a breakdown its been tryed and failed the only daves pick in my possession is boise 83 all the rest were donated to half price book a while back way back and still hope that some youngster may of stumbled upon five or six and was blown away and is still out there searching back to 84 yes my favorite year right between my other favorite and other to the right is it nostalgic maybe seeing as the bulk of my shows attended were those years yet stiill feel that aside they never sounded better 83 84 85 thas my personal recollection so seeing as my attendence on this site has been nil searching email account when this popped up maybe this is what the doctor precscribed and what a fun time and all the other grateful dead ancedotes also upon cleaning a chest out last night found my copy of the saragossa manuscript dvd yes jerrys favorite film yes its beyond the pale yes its polish and tne book was written some 200 years over surely and hopefully the lot of yous have watched it and or saw it back in 64 as myself did and still recall the day yes you needs brains to watch and anotner 100 to enjoi yes and its still the best yes neither china with it 3000 years of civilisation neither greeks with 4000 years of civilisations managed to produce anything close except propaganda maybe we are all in different in our own way and thats being modest

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