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  • #3371
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    Hartford Tomorrow, Sure..

    Full Disclosure, I just finished 5/14/78 today.. great show, but I get the feeling one day soon, I will have to be more descriptive with my show reviews.. RockThing is probably right, albeit I am an in moment kind of fungi.

    Additionally, I want to do 5/14 74 to.. as I think I might be going to Montana Soon... so I think that was the suggested pick today, but for us slackers that were behind.. can we do this the day after tomorrow by chance?

    I think this is a big tent group, all picks get covered eventually.. castles made of sand, slip into the sea, eventually....

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    How does 4/4/88 Hartford sound? Edit. Jerry was sick during this show. Recording sounds fantastic, Jerry is hurting.

    There is a fresh Miller transfer from June of this year. Recorded by Healy and Pearson.

    I will start the campaign now for more 88, oh and while we are at it, more 79-81.

    Peace folks.

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    All this talk about Montana. I better check it. Rock-thing, I’m impressed you know about Joseph Epes Brown. I lived in the Bitterroot Valley for a time in the 70s and was friends with Joseph and his family. I also used to sit in on his class. Informal student. He would have me share stories of New Mexico in his class, Southwest Indian Religions. I’m still on the trail.
    Grateful Dead forever!

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    Rockthing, Since that LP is almost new a skip could be a tiny chunk of pressing material. If you can't see a visible scratch going generally sideways debris is possible. Get a bright light and a hand lens to look down in the groove. I've had luck with a toothbrush for removing a chunk as well. Soft things obviously. I still use a discwasher brand record brush every play and sometimes without the liquid for a quicky dusting if it was cleaned recently. Also use that hand lens to examine the tip of the stylus. If it still looks pointy and not missing a chunk or too rounded it may not be the stylus. In my dormitory days where my roommate or friends may have been doing the DJ-ing I discovered my Shure M-44E (basic mid level cart.) had a slightly bent cantilever but still played fine. Vinyl is the best. Good luck and cheers.

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    Hey, man. Thanks…

    JimInMD>

    Hey, man. Thanks for indulging me. I won't say I don't have preferences for material, and so forth, and occasionally find myself in hyper-critical moods, but that's what discussion is for, I reckon. Ten people all sayin' "killer" isn't very enlightening, but it certainly makes for quicker browsing! ^^; There's good stuff happenin' right through their career, and it's fantastic to be able to watch (listen to) the evolutionary process, even when it sometimes feels like the spark is not what it once was. The goddess still shines upon them.

    Just did one full run through the 5/14/78 Providence show. Day-yum. I had ta start takin' notes.

    This Let It Grow is cookin' and what the hell is this crazy hyper jam? Whoa-- That Jerry tremolo picking is out of control, no, totally IN control. Perfect. I think I'm starting to understand something I read about the band's veer toward gluttonous virtuosity in '78. This is some killer playing (see, I said it). The dancers must already be picking their asses up from the floor. They're gonna need oxygen by the time this tune is over. I've tried to find merit in the Giza shows, but I think they really can only be described as nothing short of disastrous. I have not heard the compilation that was finally officially released. Keith is goin' nuts here. Really on it. It's impossible to think that just a year from now the lineup will be totally revamped. Holy Shxt! That's not even the ending jam! This is off the hook.

    Sampson & Delilah continues the absolutely rockin' high energy trip.

    Ship of Fools is a nice surprise. Jerry's diction seems kind of odd. He still has that silvery tone, but maybe the old pipes are already startin' to show some wear and tear. When was the laryngitis show? That was '78 wasn't it?

    Estimated is nice. Really searching, possibly a touch on the aimless side, but I'm not really gonna complain about Jerry jammin' a minute or two longer. Might relisten to this.

    Eyes is off to the races, but Phil is just shredding the arpeggios. I think that's Phil playing in the upper register just goin' over and over... hard to tell, but that's usually where Phil's bass solo goes.

    Dude, the NFA jam is 15 minutes long and that doesn't even include a St. Stephen, or GDTRFB (yet).

    Ahh, Bobby takin' a little time out for a little on-the-job slide training. lol. :)

    Man, they brought the HEAT to Providence. I can see how this'd be good music to do housework to. Done. Lickety split.

    Ok. I really did have other stuff to do today. So you're rid of me for a while.

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    Hey Rockthing

    Good to hear from you. You are right, a couple of months did make a difference with the sound and performance from year to year. Shoot, I was always thought from one night to the next, you could hear a big difference sometimes.

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    There's no rules here, feel free to ramble on and off topic, on and off the pick of the day. Great posts.. sorry about the record skip.

    I am better suited to hang here than some of the other threads, no era or keyboardist is out of bounds and a very positive vibe. It all flows like a very well tuned show... Just my two cents.

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    At the risk of double-posting...

    Strider 808808>

    Wow. A Joseph Epes Brown reference! Thank you! Black Elk Crying For A Vision from a mid-70s omnibus made a huge impact on me in my late teens, but I've only recently got round to picking up The Sacred Pipe in its entirety. You actually studied with him!? m(_ _)m

    The Ken Babs book sounds interesting. I know what a Water Buffalo is, but not the expression about shooting one.

    So many Dead-related books. I've got a ton wishlisted, but there's only so much time in the day. I've been interested in the Owsley book for a while, but have yet to pull the trigger.

    I wanted to hit that 7/31 show last weekend but just couldn't get it going for one reason or another. Couldn't remember if I already had a copy, or if I only knew it from legend.

    DeadVikes>

    3/24/73. That's always a good idea! :D

    Oroborous>
    Oooh, 2/14 at the Carousel. That's cookin', ...or cleanin' I guess in your case. ;)

    Not sure I'm familiar with 5/14/78. Had 9/2 on repeat play last week, or so. We often talk about years regarding the Dead sound, but a few months can make a big difference with these cats. :) Thanks for the tip... as if I need any encouragement..... up to Brown Eyed Women now, listening to the matrix and downloading the mono AKG source. Lovin' it! Never had any problems with '78, myself, other than the stunning disappointment of the GIza shows :0 IDK, I usually associate 78 with the great groove they've got goin' on here in the 5/14 show. Wow. BEW is hot, and that was just the first guitar solo. Damn. Cheers, folks. Whatever I was supposed to be doing this morning has just gone out the window. lol. :D

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    Hey Now. I guess this thread /is/ called "Pick of the Day", not simply "Now Playing with Discussion", but I'm just gonna bore you with stuff I've been listening to lately.... and then you probably won't see me again for a month, so, hey, decent trade-off, I'd say.

    First off, right now I've got 3/24/93 Chapel HIll rollin'. (I'll explain later) It's weird how in the second set the band totally sees-off Jerry's attempt to start Crazy Fingers out of the Playin' Jam. Phil basically sounds like he's just thrown his hands up, and completely stops playing. In fact, basically every just stops, er... dead. Only Vince seems game to find something to do. When Jer finally gives up, they launch into Box of Rain. After they finish BoR Jerry immediately starts Crazy Fingers again and they actually do it, and do they ever.

    Whadda ya figure's goin' on there? Did Jer "forget" the pre-written set list? was it like a super-tease, or did Jerry just get vetoed on his audible? The Playin' jam was sounding cool and a spaced out transition into Crazy Fingers would've been killer. However, Box of Rain into drums would have been, let's just say, unusual. It seems Billy's got some bidness to take care of, 'cause it pretty much immediately turns into a Mickey Beam solo.... as did the 3/25 drums, but Space takes off into a Spanish Jam that seems to go on and on, thankfully. When they launched into GDTRFB I was thinking, wait, what song were they just playing, did I space out?... well, I guess in a way I got spaced out. ... Now that I think of it, there may have been a "We Want Phil" chant starting in the Phil Zone, but it's not audible in the SBD, and I can't remember if that was actually before Box of Rain, or not.

    The Crazy Fingers is actually really cool, btw. SPOILER ALERT there's this momentary, and initially slightly awkward, little Playin' reprise before someone gets on the intercom (you can hear the ambient noise disappear for a second... yes I'm listening to a board for once) and seems to call it off. All of these questions seem to typify the sort-of cool, detached, risk-averse nature of this period. Haven't found an AUD source from the Dean Dome that has much life to it. Might be some new ones. It's a basketball arena designed to amplify cheering voices, not music, I'd imagine.

    Anyway, just wanted to take a peak at Jer the last time I saw him, in Vegas back in '94, and the same YouTube uploader also had the second night from Chapel Hill, which is notable for its nice Terrapin, and perhaps more so for the stellar Morning Dew. Jerry keeps trading sly grins with someone, and getting an outright laugh out of watching Bobby do his thing. I actually read the comments on YouTube videos 'cause, wow. there are some opinions out there. One dude mentioned this Crazy Fingers from the 24th and how the first night had "always" overshadowed the second. In my mind it had been the other way 'round, which sent me to the Archive this monsoon-drenched morning. Yeah, nobody goes back to listen to 90s Dead, I know. Even the band seems bored sometimes, but there are diamonds in the rough. More often, however, there are outright wth? mysteries like the one above.

    The other one... on heavy rotation has been the 50th Anniversary Skull & Roses 180g vinyl. Missed the propeller variant waiting for the credit card roll-over date. Anyway, wow, the bass is boomin'. I mean, it's not overpowering booming, but there is a LOT of Phil. I A/B'ed it with the single disc CD, and even though there's a lot of Phil on that too, he's allotted a lot more low frequencies on this version... which is odd, because people will tell you that you can't put too much bass on vinyl or it'll cause the needle to skip. No fade in, but Bertha also starts a few seconds earlier than on the CD version. There's some little warming up noise before they hit it. Pretty superfluous, but, hey, 2 more seconds! I have not heard the OG Skull and Roses vinyl, but I actually debated on picking one up from Discogs instead of getting the anniversary edition, which ended up being released three weeks late. The price is comparable. Maybe next month.

    Speaking of records skipping, I've had the 5/4/72 Olympia Theater vinyl for, what, less than two months and Bertha is already skipping. I think I screwed it up with the generic replacement stylus that I installed back in April. Apparently the Sure stylus/cartridge division has gone belly up. I've kept the old needles lying around, and found one that had been swapped out really early for some reason, so I went back to that. Otherwise, I can't figure out what the problem could be. I play my records, but consider myself more careful than most when handling them. Hard to say. I might have damaged the record, or stylus myself, but it looks like I'm in the market for a new cartridge. The vinyl had no problems at first, but I have records I bought 30 years ago that still play fine, while this one is skipping after 5~10 spins.

    The difference between Phil's bass frequencies on the Olympia Theatre record versus Skull and Roses, is beyond description. Phil is fully present in the Olympia Theatre release, but he couldn't deliver a bass bomb if he tried with the frequency range he's assigned here. Wanna compare with the Europe 72 album, but actually don't have a copy of Europe '72 in any format. Just ordered a green label '72 pressing. It was a mint for one in decent condition, but so will any 50th anniversary that might come out next year be. These are supposed to sound amazing. They've already done a bunch of Europe 72 reissues recently, so it might get the Live/Dead treatment.

    Two non-audio notes about the Olympia Theatre box are regarding the photos used for the inner sleeves. At first they seemed really dark, and not particularly interesting. The photo of out-of-her-mind-on-Owsley Donna was of interest for how calmly she appeared to be peering out into the spotlight, but a closer look reveals a rather wild set to her jaw, or perhaps I'm just projecting. The other photo that finally grabbed my attention was the Side 1 photo of the band, completely washed out in red lighting taken from stage left, almost behind them. Bobby is standing out front in the spotlight singing and Jerry and Phil appear to be standing behind(!) Billy with Pig at the organ stage right harmonizing with Bobby. So, Jer and Phill would totally just retreat into the shadows when they didn't have any singing parts in those days? Fascinating. Might depend on the stage. You don't see that in the Veneta footage, but there really weren't any shadows that day, were there.

    Anyway, my answer to a question nobody asked.

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    Good Housekeeping tunes!
    Kept the mother rolling with first disc of 2/14/68 etc. shizzle fo sho!

    Next chance I get we will get down to tge funky sounds of 3/24/73!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2020 - 18:30

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When I said Shoreline 5/10/91, I meant the whole run, three shows. Aren't we doing three show runs in a single day?

I'm quite sure Brewer can keep up.

At least until we run out of three show runs. Then we move on to four show runs.

I cannot compete with a Moose. They look nice and peaceful, but like a hippo.. once you get too close they are mean as hell. Beware the Moose. Quite the cool story, Oro. I love Moose. The first time I stumbled into Jackson Hole.. I heard dead music coming from this bar, so the three of us ventured.. there was a dead cover band playing in the Mangy Moose. Pure coincidence, a hand grabbed me on my shoulder and it was a good friend from college that didn't finish and went out West to live.. This was ~30+ years ago and we were on a climbing trip.. we stayed up late, woke up at 4:00 anyway and climbed the middle Teton in the morning, getting back to a car at the bottom at 10:00 pm with a dead battery. ..but it was a stick, so we push started and found a place open that sold burritos and beer to finish the night.

So I have a soft spot for Moose's. My friend, Marty, an avid deadhead styled us for the weekend. I have seen Moose perhaps a dozen times, but that's the best Moose story I have in me.

How’s bout y’all turn me on to some 77 I haven’t heard.....so probably anything that’s not an official release.....OR!
Perhaps the whole show from 5/22/77 DP 3.....never heard the whole show in sequence etc, OR???.....
I have about 15 minutes to download, so chop chop, lol, just kidding!

EDIT: DV, born in Conn, 30+ years on NYS west coast, rest in CO...
But I’ve been to 46 states, including the great state of Miny- Soda....did a gig at the caboose! Big fun.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 07:17

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I know, I’ve never heard the whole show from 3/18/77! Yeah, that’s it, I’m calling it 3/18/77.
See ya on the other side....

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 07:38

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This looks good! I haven't heard this one. Another 20 min NFA?! - sign me up.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 07:44

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....good morning/Day everyone, , Im stuck! Is not fun at all, but I play my dead music & start to feeel alive ! todays pick ; in infamous 9/15-16/78 ‘“Egyptian magician”performances of 1978 Grateful Dead at one of their greatest Peeks era in the bands History t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 07:47

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Let's do it. Another 77? Okay.

Oroborous, the boozer. That is great! Haven't been there in years.

The site was not working last night, no idea what was going on but when I tried to post a comment, my avatar switched to yours Oroborous. Then it would say access denied. Weird.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 08:16

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Nice, Love this one!

David Gans turned me on to this in '88 and it's always been a favorite ever since.

Glad I wasn't the only one having issues with the site last night, I thought I broke it :)

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 08:53

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I run the server for Dead.net, and was at work when Jim exploded my head with his "three shows per day" comment. What's left of my brains flew into the works and gummed it up pretty good.

Oro--The Cabooze? No way. What was your band's name? I used to practically LIVE at the Cabooze back in the day . . .

Speaking of live music, Vikes, are you going to Utepils this weekend for all the socially-distanced, live Dylan/Dead music? I'll be there Saturday if you want to meet in person.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 09:30

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Caboooze, must of been winter/spring of 96?
Was doing Merch on Band Tour. Remember Danko couldn’t get enough of the ribs, lol.
Stayed downtown somewhere? Lots of glass walkways and I believe the hotel accessed a mall?
Being on tour and years ago its mostly a blur, but remember everything was great until the Band, probably Levon, suddenly ended the show, which unfortunately they would do occasionally in those days, and the crowd was not happy! Lol.

Another good Moose story: so my old work partner and I are up working in Mountain Star, another private development on the other side of the valley from Beaver Creek, (sick views) and we step outside to burn one on the back patio. All of a sudden a big Cow Moose comes around the house walking down the sidewalk right towards us! Luckily she wasn’t in a hurry so we just stepped inside and watched her graze from less than 10 feet. Indescribable being that close to a big wild animal like that. It amazes me more folks don’t get stomped as they hang out a lot right in Vail by the river a lot and the tourons always try to get too close... you do not want to piss off a Moose!

NET GLITCH; yeah that was weird last night. Tried posting here twice (reason for 2 below) and nothing...went to DaP 34 board and got to post, but when I tried to edit, nothing.....today of course all my nonsense is posted, lol....
Here I was thinking I got banned or something....glad it wasn’t just me!

Ok, on to the one and only Alahambra. Wish they would of worked that out and played it!

Hey Deadheadbrewer,

Unfortunately, no I wouldn't be heading over to that event, but it sounds like fun.

Let us know how it goes, thanks man!

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:03

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I didn't know you were talking about THE Band!

I had tickets to see them at the Cabooze in early '94(?). The the show was cancelled, and then I moved to Colorado for four years shortly thereafter.

So you experienced the Saint Paul/Minneapolis skyway system. Those were built so that we don't have to walk outside in the winter! :) There are tunnels all over underneath the U of MN campus for the same reason.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:39

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I know a good many of you totally HATE mp3 by the vicious PM's threats I get telling me to watch my digital collection's back! :-)

To those that use mp3 regularly on a dos based computer.

When you open a folder, say, Jerry's Greatest Hits. When the folder opens, bam, all the file names are there AND the mp3 info. This happens in about a millisecond. BUT, sometimes you open a folder and bam, the files names instantly appear, but the mp3 info can take 20 seconds to fill in AND it usually doesn't happen in file name order.

I have investigated this for a while, maybe have an answer, might want more insight.

I have noticed that WHERE the mp3 header record is written matters. "Quick" filling tags have a header record location less than 8,000. "Slow" filling,,, seem to be in the 10 million mark.

To me this suggest WHEN the record is written to the file. If you assemble all the info before writing and know the spec, you can write early in the file. If you write music and assemble info while writing the writing of header will be at end of file (which is why they don't open up in filename order, I think they are opening in file length order)

Any programmers out there who KNOW?

Thanks to all, sorry for the non dead question.

BUT THIS COULD EFFECT US ALL!!!!!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 11:58

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My cousin worked a long time for NFA graphics before moving to Boulder and opening Encore Embroidery. They always needed reliable road help so my cousin threw me some work every now and again (mostly in or between collage and grad school).
I mostly worked with the 90s version of The Band and Ziggy Marley and the Melody Makers. I did Further Festival 96 from Pittsburg on till the end in Phoenix I believe it was? Which was grueling! Also Woodstock 94, and though I didn’t work at 7/8&9/95, we did get in via our connections and we’re able to stand onstage for the Bands sets. Of course as soon as they finished they shooed us off. Cool part was everyone but JG was onstage checking out the Band, with Weir literally standing right behind us on stage right. Didn’t talk to him though as the crew didn’t seem to thrilled with all these Band folks on THEIR stage to begin with, so didn’t want to take a chance riling anybody up etc...
My cousin did tons of Dead shows over the years and did get to hang out many times, so has some good stories.

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This Winterland 3 night run of ‘77 would be a good Candidate for the 3 show format, spread over 3 days of course.

3/18 is HOT!
3/19 possibly hotter?

Might have to find out!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 18:55

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Great show, but what did you all expect, it is 77!

First show since San Diego and you can hear the changes. Really like the Sugaree, it is different and flows nicely. First Scarlet-Fire. Man, does this let loose soon after.
First and last Terrapin Flyer? Pretty cool. Love the ULB finish. SBD is not the best I have heard but it is solid. Maybe a B+ to A-.

More 77 for tomorrow?? I was hoping we would continue on with that last night at Shoreline in May 91. Is that the 5/12/91 show?
Either way, we can't lose.

That is cool stuff Oroborous, sounds like you got to see and do some fun stuff music wise.

By the way, I am looking for a physical copy of the 91 30 trips show if anyone out there had any extras. I have a copy, but really need the real thing now.

Be well folks.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 19:03

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I'm surprised you didn't go anniversary 7/17/89 Alpine Valley........ The return of We bid you Goodnight...... I was there for all 3 nights....... that first night was perfect, and then the rain showed up!!! Can't go wrong with any Winterland show especially from one of the 3 77 runs...... have a good night.... Pretty sure my Capital Theatre disc is showing up tomorrow here in Rhode Island..... bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 19:42

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Hey Bob T, that is a fine idea. Are there good sources for the 89 Alpine shows? I know the 88 recordings are not the best.

I was there with you Bob T. Yes, I remember the rain that year. Their last shows at Alpine. My last Dead shows before I started college. 31 years ago.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 07/16/2020 - 21:00

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Yes awesome boards are on archive..... I was a stage ahead of you, I was starting grad school the next month!!! I hear you about the 88 show quality!!! The summer it never rained!!!!! bob t

That’s a sweet run of shows for sure.

Quality SBDs = nice summer time pick.

Plus a 31 year anniversary to boot.

It’s nice to spend a few days on those ;)

Some great reviews in the taper’s compendium that make nice liner note material as well.

Good stuff!

89 was a great year for Alpine Valley.

They know they have to do something about these shows... eventually. I'd like to see video/audio releases of the whole run, but perhaps I am in the minority.

So today's pick is the whole three show '89 run? Just want to get this right so Brewer can start on this nice and early.
I like this three run show per day plan. It's working out quite nicely.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/17/2020 - 05:56

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7/17/89 Alpine it is!

Yes Jim, I would love to see these three nights released with video. It would be sweet.

Who knows if it will ever happen.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 07/17/2020 - 09:02

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Scooby roooooo! Woof, woof, woof! So all three today.....just kidding!
Yeah, why the hell aren’t these out? Actually though, I think I’d prefer a fall box, but these would be a close second.
You’d think they would have run Downhill from Here for SS tonight but so far Dave hasn’t ever gone the anniversary route with anything, except the 50th releases.

So a little story, sorry, probably told in the past?
I went with my cousin Pumas but we could only catch the first 2 shows as he had to be to his recently new respectable upstanding like job. So we go in his brand spanking new Pontiac grand am I think it was (Me driving because I was the driver in those days) .....and our plan was to go commando, no not that, get your head outta the gutter! Meaning no tents or nothing besides basic essentials. Probably toiletries (sorry, never was into the whole no bathing thing), a large cooler, BEER, duh!, probably some vitamins and basic breakfast stuff and some snacks, rain gear and some clothes, oh yeah, and party favors, but not sure there comparatively was much of that as he didn’t do much anymore and I was cutting waaaayyyy back in those days...(I’m sure I still had more than enough). That may still sound like a lot of stuff for some folks, but compared to what all I had in my truck of the big 73 LTD back in 87, this was nothing! (Including my golf clubs which literally kept me out of jail that year!), but I digress..
Anyway, the second day we decide to go eat and find a hose to rinse off etc and so as we’re leaving we’re stopped at the entrance behind this tiny car just packed with heads, like they were literally sticking out the windows, the sun roof, and someone was in the trunk! Oh, and to set the stage: there were donut eaters hanging everywhere by this entrance, and occasionally one would direct traffic....so this gal try’s to pull out a few times but no go. Meanwhile the cops are laughing and checking these clowns out. Us, were just sitting there waiting for these idiots to pull the fug out.....so finally she starts to pull out, but then abruptly stops then backs up again?? Whaaaa? Then, next chance she gets she guns it only she’s still in reverse!...........BAAAMMM......right into my cousins new car, Doooaaahhh!
Now, as the cops put down their coffee and Bismarck’s, and start to come over, several things are going through this ole boys head: shit, do I still have drugs in my pocket?..., am I already legally intoxicated, do I look like it etc.....
Poor Pumas, didn’t say too much (he usually doesn’t that’s partially why we call him Pumas), but you can tell he’s pissed and flipping out inside. Well tragedy was narrowly averted once again as the cops told us both to get outta the way and then proceeded to go to town on the poor freaks in the clown car, though even the cops were laughing at how many people piled out. They totally left us alone, Pumas did a quick info swap with the gal, luckily only minor superficial damage to his car, and we were outta there relatively quick. The other car not so good....
As we were leaving they were starting to search their car and line em all up.......
I don’t know what it was about Alpine, but almost every time I went, something crazy, spontaneous, and potentially liberty suspending would occur to me. But just as unusual was how tragedy was averted and your boy stayed free. But those are stories for another time....
So 7/17/89 today sounds awesome for a Friday, oh, and how’s bout that 3/18/77 pick yesterday, “huh, huh, who wants a Fresca?” Only had background listening going on, but yeah, neat little show. Y’all hit the high points so I won’t, except to say how much I wish they would of worked up that Alhambra bridge into the song. It sounded like Phil and the drummers were raring to go, and Bob follows, but JG obviously didn’t want to really go there so didn’t! I’m sure that’s a tough passage for him to play, but still, sigh, yet another of the most cool things they did in the studio, but not so much, or ever, live....a good portion of Blues For Allah album comes to mind! Well, glad y’all enjoyed that one. Doesn’t seem to show up on the radar. Which given it follows Cow Palace and Swing, and has to compete with the rest of the auspicious year is not surprising. Ok, have to git er done, but at least I’ll have some killer 89 to lighten the load,
Ciao

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 07/17/2020 - 14:49

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Ok I'm Biased since i was there.... I'm already on the Uncle John's Band on set II.... First set makes me wish that they didn't drop Built to Last and When Push Comes to Shove so fast.... Me and My Uncle into Cumberland.... extra bonus... I'll stop there since I will say all the songs were good, and I said I wasn't going to be biased. 10 Song first set, 5 songs before drums..... 4 songs after space and 2 encores........ they seemed in no hurry (A little different the next night on 7/18/89).... Looking forward to 7/8/90 concert tonight!!!! Bob t

....been waaaaaay too long since i've checked out this show. It's a keeper.
Also, shipping notice for GarciaLive 14 just hit my inbox.

Great call Bob t and yes the SBD is awesome. It is great and brings backs tons of memories. How about that Cumberland? Just finished the first set. Man, can we go back?

Great stuff Oroborous!

Second set later and the two song encore was top stuff.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/17/2020 - 17:17

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....I can't stay here much longer, Melinda
The sun is getting high
I can't help you with your troubles
If you won't help with mine
I gotta get down
I gotta get down
Gotta get down to the mine
You keep me up just one more night
I can't stop here no more
Little Ben clock says quarter to eight
You kept me up till four
I gotta get down
I gotta get down
Or I can't work there no more
Lotta poor man make a five dollar bill
Will keep him happy all the time
Some other fellow's making nothing at all
And you can hear him cry
Can I go, buddy, can I go down
Take your shift at the mine
Gotta get down to the Cumberland mine
Gotta get down to the Cumberland mine
That's where I mainly spend my time
Make good money, five dollars a day
If I made any more I might move away
Lotta poor man got the Cumberland Blues
He can't win for losing
Lotta poor man got to walk the line
Just to pay his union dues
I don't know now, I just don't know
If I'm coming back again
I don't know now, I just don't know
If I'm coming back again
I don't know now, I just don't know
If I'm coming back again.

Yeah. It's kinda like that.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 07/18/2020 - 15:26

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Should we keep this party going with 7/18/89 of the Alpine run?

I am I going to check it out.

Stay well folks.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/18/2020 - 15:39

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.....guess i forgot to mention 7.18.89 for today. I'm at Eyes already. My bad, people.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/18/2020 - 16:23

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A sibling's birthday show. My sister was born on 7-18, about 40 miles from East Troy :-)

Happy Birthday, Jen! Love you! :-)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 07/18/2020 - 17:19

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Sounding pretty sweet so far. The mind is spinning. I distinctly remember the Scarlet, minus the fire from this show. Really enjoying these shows. We are a lucky brunch to have all this unbelievable music.
Nice Wilfred. I love this part of WI.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 07/18/2020 - 19:23

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Got a PM from Brewer. He suggested we do the whole 87 MSG run tomorrow since he has off work.

A meager five shows. Apparently it's Mrs. Brewers favorite year. Seems reasonable to me.

Edit: I thought we did all three Alpine shows yesterday.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 07/19/2020 - 13:27

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Off the top of my head, Alpine Valley 1989.... Deer Creek 1990, and Selland Arena 1974... P.S. The 6/10/73 RFK show was on Sirius today... started at noon and was still on at 4!!!!! Bob t

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 07/19/2020 - 14:10

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Also my favorite Desolation Row, with Jerry hitting back ups at the perfect time!!! Good Althea and Sugaree also... Rained the whole day on the 19th!!!!!! bob t

I cheated and did Downhill from Here DVD on Friday night, then played VV 1 DVD.
Yesterday did first listen of WMD/2/21 etc,
So though the natural thing would be all in on Alpine...I think I’m going to get bogged down with this release, a few more good spins of 34 and then 35. But that’s at home, at work I’ll be looking forward to more off the grid shows from the archive etc, or what ever you nice folks decide...
So, yeah, I’ve always felt Alpine 89 and 7/17 especially were personal top picks, but haven’t heard in a while...probably since last year lol, so was surprisingly blown away, again, at just how great this show is! The whole weekend really deserves some kind of upgraded release. And like brother Hendrix freak with fall 72, i ain’t shuttin’ up about fall 89 until it happens.....more killer multi-track anyone?
Ok, time to stir the pot, what do you think is better: a good 2 track Beatty board, or a multi-track of other origins....answer....a multi-track Beatty 😉 (cue rim shot)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/19/2020 - 14:55

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Let's finish this out with the wonderful 7/19/89! Thanks for the memories.
And Vguy are you buying brunch?
Yes, okay should have been bunch.

Oroborous, yes, there are tons of great multi track shows left and would love to see more fall 89 released. We have some. After listening to these great summer 89 shows, man, let's get these out.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 07/19/2020 - 15:55

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I haven’t been keeping up with the daily picks, but I did just jump onboard today’s fine selection and started playing the 7-19-89 dvd-r.
I was able to get Set 2 on VHS in the late 90’s, and it was grainy but a great companion to Downhill From Here.
7-17-89 was my second show but like a foolish youngster I didn’t know that I was supposed to go every show in a run.

I have sort of given up hope for 2020. 2021 anyone?

Missed out on today's pick, which saddens me somewhat. But we did get an ok Desolation Row last week, so that sort of balances things out. Had a great day, which adds just enough yang to counter the ying.

I guess that's the best we can do somedays, which is exactly just good enough to make the world spin.