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marye

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So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
A few possibilities:
-Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
- In Search Of (tickets! stuff! music! etc.!)
- The Ride Board (useful touring resource)
- All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!

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October 26, 2022 - 11:04am

#21

Rubbra

Joined:
March 30, 2015

"River Flows Free"

Is it possible you misheard what was sung? Brown Eyed Woman has this recurring lyric:

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
October 7, 2022 - 1:55pm

#22

Mejampo

Joined:
October 5, 2022

HI! brand new to the forum…

HI! brand new to the forum and happy to be a part of it. Finally a place where I can talk to other DeadHeads and no longer be a "closet" deadhead!
September 14, 2022 - 12:32pm

#23

LudwigVonZildjian

Joined:
September 14, 2022

RIVER FLOWS FREE

What song has this repeated lyric ? ..."RIVER FLOWS FREE" ... Heard it on "spotify" in a store DURING spring/summer 2022. Garcia was on vocal and incredibly beautiful guitar solo. Store clerk said it was listed as being "Brown Eyed Woman", but that does not seem to match. I sure would like to find this incredibly magical song, it sounded like a studio recording, not a live recording, but who knows, perhaps it could have been a very sterile soundboard.
September 3, 2022 - 12:47pm

#24

friscokid77

Joined:
June 29, 2010

Jam With The Grateful Dead Rocks!

Thank You so much for the new feature on GD.net:
Jam With The Grateful Dead. I hope this stays around
for a while, and I'd love to see some selections added too.
I've often thought that after artists' albums are re-packaged so many times,
what would be left to offer. I've always hoped that some day, maybe they
could repackage a release in muli-track to listen to on your computer.
Listen/mix it however you want. It would keep me entertained for hours!
Imagine having multi-track recordings of albums like Mars Hotel,
Are You Experienced, Dark Side of the Moon, Srgt Pepper etc.
The possibilities are endless!
Hopefully "Jam With The Grateful Dead" gives someone important
that idea, and maybe someday in the future we can see this happen!

Thanks again!
August 29, 2022 - 3:55pm

#25

mark_mumper

Joined:
August 17, 2007

Wake of the Flood counterfeit

Jack Straw83:

I have both an early (likely original) pressing and printing of the genuine Grateful Dead Records Wake of the Flood LP and a counterfeit that I bought at a used-records store in the 1970s.

The most readily noticeable difference between the two (which was pointed out by the band at the time, if I remember correctly) is the price marking “0598” (meaning $5.98) printed toward the bottom of the spine of the cover; on the genuine (original, if not later) release, that’s orange-colored; on the counterfeit it is white.

The cardboard album cover of the genuine album release has a matte, not slick, surface finish and feel (like the first American Rolling Stones album, or Jefferson Airplane’s Bless Its Pointed Little Head), and the cover stock is a bit thick and sturdy; doesn’t seem to me cheap but rather an alternative to the more common slick surface of the time.
The counterfeit’s cover finish and feel is a bit slick (not very), not matte; its card stock is similar to the genuine, maybe a bit thinner and less sturdy.

What does seem “cheap” is the counterfeit’s printing of the cover art, whose inferior quality could be missed if seen by itself, but which looks especially poorer when compared side-by-side with the genuine: it’s an evident lower-quality photo reproduction from the genuine original. The lower image quality’s especially apparent on the front cover, and in the small lettering at the bottom of the back cover (“GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS SAN RAFAEL, CA. 94902 ℗ © 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS PRINTED IN USA”). The front-cover art of the counterfeit is less sharp, less “present” and a bit washed-out, and the small lettering on the back cover is fuzzy, not clear and sharp as on the genuine (that’s as quick a giveaway of the album being counterfeit as the white “0598” price marking). And the painted color field encircling the sides and upper area of the front-cover illustration is, on the genuine album, a rich, dark maroon; that field on the counterfeit that I have is a dull brown (but does have the faint brushstroke figurations of the original).

The LPs themselves are both not especially thick and are fairly flexible, but really not unlike most other LPs of the time; I wouldn’t say either is “a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP,” but they are not like the heavy, rather inflexible 180-gram vinyl you find from most? LP releases nowadays. The counterfeit has perhaps a bit more flex to it than the genuine.

The labels on the LP discs appear nearly identical, but the counterfeit’s printing quality is poorer, again like a photo reproduction of the original (less noticeably so than with the cover art, but the letters of Rick Griffin’s signature by the raven are rather illegibly run-together on the counterfeit); curiously, the “©” symbol of the counterfeit’s LP labels appears different from the genuine’s labels, with a rather hand-drawn “c” inside the circle.

It may not be useful to compare the engravings on the runouts of the vinyl between the grooves and the disc labels, as those could change, I think, depending on where (and when?) an LP was pressed, even for a genuine release. For what it’s worth, though, my genuine LP’s sides are engraved “GD-01-A” and “GD•01•B” (small dots rather than hyphens for the B-side), with an “X” on the A-side about an inch away from the other engraving, and both sides also have a masterer’s? or presser’s? mark in the runout, that looks like an oval (or an LP as viewed from an angle) with a dot in its center and two legs as from an inverted “V” pointing outward from the bottom part of the oval; I don’t know who that might represent, but it may be a well-known mark. My counterfeit’s runouts are engraved this way: on A-side, “GD-01-A—MI8” (I think that’s an “8” rather than a “B”) and "A18342-(2)" (that “A” might instead be a delta symbol); on B-side, “GD-01-B—MI9” and "A18342-X" (again, that “A” might instead be a delta symbol).

Those are the details I have to give! I haven’t played either of these LPs in years, and can’t remember readily what differences in aural quality there seemed to me back in the day between the genuine release and the counterfeit; though I tended to not ever play the counterfeit after a first listen or few. (And no listening-test report update from me likely forthcoming soon, either.)

Oh, that slot cut out on the corner of your album’s cover sleeve is probably indeed a so-called “cutout” mark meaning that the album was cut out from inventory meant for regular retail, I think by a wholesale distributor, when sales of product had diminished and excess inventory would be unloaded at a lower price and sold cut-price at retailers.
August 26, 2022 - 10:58am

#26

Jack Straw83

Joined:
August 25, 2022

Wake of the flood bootleg or original copy?

I am curious about whether my Wake of the Flood LP is authentic or not. I understand the phony copies resemble the original very well, so well it pissed the band off so bad they ended up working with the FBI to get the issue resolved. I own it on CD as well, but I'm just not sure about the LP. The texture of the cover feels kinda rough...well not rough, but not smooth either. It doesn't feel like a normal album cover sleeve. It feels kinda cheap. At first I figured it was the band cutting costs being it was the first album to be released by GD records which took a nose dive not long after. There is also a weird lookin slot cut out on the corner of the cover sleeve. I'm no LP expert but this is driving me nuts. The record looks normal but is a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP as well. It feels like it's too easy to snap it in two if you were to bend it even slightly. It sounds okay I guess. Not sure because I would have to have copies of both the bootleg and the original in order to tell the difference. It's an older pressing of the album, assuming it's the real deal. Definitely not a reissue. If it was I wouldn't be having this problem that arose in late 1973 not long after it's release lol. Any help from you fellow Dead heads is much appreciated.
August 26, 2022 - 10:33am

#27

Jack Straw83

Joined:
August 25, 2022

Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep…

Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep the political bs out! These people have no idea what fascism looks like. I do, as well as my parents who thankfully escaped Castro's communist Cuba before they had me and my siblings.
August 26, 2022 - 10:25am

#28

Jack Straw83

Joined:
August 25, 2022

One of my favorites. The…

One of my favorites. The band wrote that song in memory of their friend Janis Joplin. The cover of Me and Bobby Mcgee was another, as she would never get to see the song become a hit or the album it appears on Pearl.
August 24, 2022 - 8:47am

#29

cbaylies

Joined:
December 11, 2008

Change of address madness

Is anyone else having trouble with "change of address" - maybe it's just my old-time internet-proof soul, but I can't find a phone number or any way to reach Dead.net for a simple address change. The "customer service" click gets me nowhere, any help? Repoman
August 11, 2022 - 2:26am

#30

Noobie

Joined:
June 15, 2022

Nice!

Nice site.

John Perry Barlow

John Perry Barlow

Forums

About the New Site

So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
A few possibilities:
-Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
- In Search Of (tickets! stuff! music! etc.!)
- The Ride Board (useful touring resource)
- All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!

mylightningtoo

Try refreshing your browser after logging in. This has worked for me in the past. I'm using Firefox.

Re: Ticket Exchange log in

And this morning it seems fixed! Just allowed me to post. Thanks everyone.

yay!

good luck in your ticket quest.

Chat? (nevermind)

Hey Marye. Can't sleep so I thought I'd see if anyone else was on chat but it won't let me in. I'm logged into the site (obviously) but when I go to dead.net/chat the top right goes from my avatar to the silhouette and the page says I must be logged in to use Chat. If I click the silhouette, it takes me to my page (no re-login needed), but if I go again to the chat URL, it goes back to not logged in.

Apparently all I need to is write this and <ctrl>F5 on the chat page, and I'm in! Long strange trip.

Peace,

-Dave

well...

that's interesting... Let me know if it persists.

I just came back today and I…

I just came back today and I am loving the new website and the design it has a great look to it!

Whom to contact

I have several ideas for merchandise. Please let me know whom I can talk to about submitting them. Thank you!!!

Majenta

send me a PM and I'll see if I can connect you to the right folks.

Still can't chat, but spammers are working

Mary,

Initially this was about chat not working, but I cleaned my cache and now it appears to be working so all is good.

Oh, and if you look in this forum, there appear to be a bunch of spam in here now.

Peace,

-Dave

wow , been a long time since…

wow , been a long time since I have been here. Glad to see Marye is still here
hello all

hey now

Welcome back!

good

sorry it took so long , LOVE

Hi, so glad I made it! So,…

Hi, so glad I made it!
So, how hard is it to post stub and show photos in the show archive?
Thanks!

the way it's set up

I would post them, or links to them, in the comments for the particular show.

My Shows?

Can't find my stories i wrote about shows I was at.
All I can find is the first paragraph of my story about 2/2/69 Minneapolis Labor Temple.
Did I do something wrong? Is all that server space too expensive to hold all the gigabytes of memories?

@Hard2Handle2269

you didn't do anything

My Shows got munged in a site update some time back. They're on the list to get fixed but for now they are not there.

Welcome back

Hi, So glad I made it!

Nice

Welcome back!

reading MY SHOWS was a very…

reading MY SHOWS was a very big deal for me . I went to the Giants stadium Movie nite and decided to go back to see other comments about that nite .. Wow took out my favorite part of this site

mayor of bay terrace

Agreed, hard to locate but they are there...

https://www.dead.net/show/june-17-1991

Awesome

The new site looks legit, I love design, icons and color selection. ALso, search button works really well, I can find what I need in a matter of seconds.

The new site is alright with…

The new site is alright with me. So grateful you're here. The new format feels good

Grateful Dead Appreciation Night at Target Field in Mpls

Thanks to Dead.net for the great T-Shirts. Is there anyway to post a pic? Is dead.net on Facebook?

Giants Stadium Box set Download

I just purchased the Giants Stadium box download in 24_192 flac and only received the 16_44 files

Giants Stadium download

Only received 1 folder for 89’ show. Sounds great! But files are not 192/24FLAC and missing all other shows? I’ve emailed and waiting to hear back. Anyone else have problems?

Download problems

That seems to happen a lot with new releases.

Go to the comments section of the GS Box page.

Is selling a Grateful Dead item allowed?

Hi, I’m new to the site. Looks great, and I can’t wait to explore more. I have a question - are we allowed to post Grateful Dead items for sale on this page, and if so, what section? I have a Fisher Grateful Dead Mountain bike I would like to sell. Thanks in advance!

Grateful Dead advent calendar

Awww .... I miss it . It was fun counting off the days . Merry Happy everybody !

How do I make a post? I am…

How do I make a post? I am throwing a music festival for the rainforest action network called box of rainforest and am looking for sponsorship to pay the bands so we can fundraise money for the organization

Its nice to see you here

The new site is alright with me. So grateful you're here.

Daves Picks 33

Uh, so, this Dekalb '77 show is somewhat legendary, and I read Dave's intro to it, and listened to Jack Straw with an open mind. As a Deadhead since the early mid-70's, who eventually migrated, landed, live, procreated in the promised land, aka Bay Area, and greater NorCal, I feel as though I have a pretty fair grasp of what an amazing GD performance entails, as I've seen these guys do their thing live around 300 times, with dozens of other Jerry Band, and various other related band member side shows under my belt, as well. This version of J Straw was pretty good, a couple of clunkers aside, and, I would certainly not judge the rest of the show from that fact, as I know that...pretty good can quickly turn amazing, but...I guess I'll have to listen to the entire tape of the show again, something not done in years. By comparison, the J Straw from New Haven Coliseum from May of that same year, a show which i attended, in my opinion included one of the greatest versions of this epic Bobby tune ever performed or recorded. Of course it was eventually released as part of Dick's Picks 25, which was very satisfying, and provided somewhat belated validation to the opinions of myself and friends that this was also an epic performance that ranks high in the pantheon of killer shows...including the many NYE shows, Greek and Warfield and Oakland Auditorium, and other shows I've seen from AK to MA. Parts of this show are, quite simply, some of the greatest music i've ever seen, and I've pretty much seen most great rock, blues, jazz artists who have performed live since...the mid-70's. I think a quick listening/comparison of...the two Jack Straws is warranted. I plan on playing both shows, back-to-back for comparison, and, while this is not a contest, I am interested in the sound, interplay/improvisational quality, and...the purity and quality of the individual songs, and how the whole coalesces. Hey, what better way to spend a rainy Winter Saturday afternoon. Don' answer that.
As to the new site...So I'm having a little trouble figuring out where I should'a directed this 2-cents worth of opinion, as it just isn't clear what forum/forums pertain to what, or if there is a general comment forum, or...i dunno.
I don't get to shows anymore(D&Co), though have made it to TxRoads a couple years ago to see Phil+ outside...a great venue! But...there is a lot of amazing, jamming, heartfelt music in r&r, blues, country/swing coming out'a NorCal these days, and...I often hear the influence of the solid ground and vast body of improvisational work "the boys"(sorry DJ) have laid down and pioneered for the past 50+ years. Hopefully, somewhere JG can hear, and is smiling. In that sense...The Dead will truly never die. Absolutely part of the collective musical cultural consciousness of their time, into the future. Yip.

I don't know Jack

...Straw from one show to another, so this would be a fun comparison

Sketty - Dave's Picks 33

Great $0.02 - Enjoyable history lesson. I've had both those shows on tape for a quarter-century now... will have to pull them out to do the comparison of Jack Straws. Thanks!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY PHIL !!!!!

PHIL !!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
Been watching your streaming concerts all day long! YOU ROCK, PHIL !!!!!! Love ya, man!

Just received the 15 CD…

Just received the 15 CD Liberty box set in Australia. The sound quality and the music are amazingly clear and absorbing. And thanks also for the streamed One More Saturday Night. That was my first experience of Dead & Co with John, Jeff and Otiel. The band sounds wonderful, and the DeadHead comments very welcoming. Incredibly generous and community building when we all need it. Thanks so much.

I'm a new member to this…

I'm a new member to this site but a dead fan since the late 60s. The first concert I attended was May 9, 1970 at the Cage at Worcester Polytech. I sat on the oval track above the band, our feet dangling near their heads. I went out and bought beer for the band at the first break and came back to the gym and the audience was down to 75. Second set went on for hours and they rocked. Very intimate. Friend of the Devil and Deep Elam blues were special. Next time I saw them was their long sound check at Watkins Glenn.

Miracle

Hi all!

I hope you are all enjoying a peaceful day or night depending on your longitude. I am very lost and I’m hoping a kind soul can guide my walk. I want to find my American Beauty. I’ve splashed many ripples as I have traveled alone. Gratefully I’ve seen much within this box of rain but my attic craves my sugar magnolia.

I cannot tell friend from devil. I do not even know if I am asking correctly or if I can even ask... but if you have a warrant, I guess your gonna come in. So Hey! Can any one honestly help me because I will keep truckin. Enjoy all you can!
J.

Welcome Back

Hello everyone. I am a new member of this dead community,Nice meeting you.

Dave's Picks order 2 months late

Hi there
I've been waiting a long time to recieve my copy of Dave's Picks . Feeling a bit disappointed by the responses to my emails. Can anyone help me on this.
Many thanks

Davie

send me a PM with the details and I'll see if the Doc can straighten this out.

The Angel's Share

Hi MaryE!
I'm a longtime Deadhead (since 1968), and I am a collector of the Dead's music. I love physical media (CDs DVDs, etc.), and I would love to see a physical release of the wonderful release of The Angel's Share.
Is there any possible chance of this? I'm an old guy, and not too interested in streaming. I'd love a chance to own this on CD. Fingers crossed!
Thanks for listening!
Randy

The Angel's Share

Get the Dead off Facebook

Get the Grateful Dead off Facebook. Surely Facebook does not reflect who we are? Who the Dead is?

Facebook Decisions Were ‘Setbacks for Civil Rights,’ Audit Finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/technology/facebook-civil-rights-aud…

no idea!

re physical-media release, but I'll ask!

Hello There

I m new here so want to say hello to all

HELLOO :D

Hii how are u guys omg that's so nice here

New Site, since when? So it goes, all progress is not good....

Well, I try to keep in touch! So many roads I have already taken that I loved and hopefully many more in these challenging times. Bummed all the shows I marked were lost in the remodel, the up grades means a lot of things are lost. Well, I guess I will go through the old passes and tickets again, oh the agony!!! I attended my faire share and you know I love the Oregon Country Fair too. Have a fabulous day and keep on trucking brothers and sisters, it is not easy and I feel so lonely, but our spirits are strong and we will get by, we will survive. Sending lots of love to you and hoping I will keep feeling yours.