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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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  • pomo1
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    Nice Analogy Lopezz
    Thanks for the explanation from us less technically knowledgeable souls. Does the same thing happen each time you save or copy a .wav file? From what I can gather from this topic, the answer would be no. "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
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    Thanks for the explanation Lopezz
    A few weeks ago I tried converting an mp3 to wav just to see what would happen and the file ended up being a cda file when it was all said and done. cda files are the format you get if you buy a CD from the store. So I thought that was weird. I don't care that much as I would never convert mp3 to wav or flac anyways but I just wanted to understand it better... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    flac vs mp3
    A lot of you probably do not use audio editing software, but Mp3's are pretty much useless in that area. When I open a 50mb flac format song in Cool Edit Pro or Adobe Audition, it uncompresses to almost a gigabyte. Thats just one 10min song. I use this to get rid of tape hiss, or try and smooth over a tape flip. When I save the flac file in flac format it does not lose any information. I can open it and save it as often as I like and the information remains. Mp3's on the other hand will lose a little information every time I save them. For example, If the song were a painting: Compressing it in flac format would be like rolling it up and putting it in a tube. It would look the same the next time you open it. Compressing it in Mp3 format would be like folding it up and putting it in your pocket. Each time you opened it and put it away the folds and creases would get worse. A tale tell sign of an Mp3 in this condition is when no matter how loud you turn the voice and lead guitar sound muffeled. If you like Mp3's, cool. I use them in my Zen player and my wifes ipod. I dont see anything wrong with a Mp3 vine either. I sent That Nice Hippy Guy a Sublime concert in Mp3 format. It sounded pretty good! But please dont encode Mp3 back to flac. They will get mistaken for the real thing if the recipients of the file do not have the software to distinguish between the two. Thanks( I guess thats my 2 cents)
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    That's exactly what I do too. With a few CDs sprinkled in for good measure. I haven't found a way to flawlessly listen to my ipod in the car yet so that's where CDs are nice. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    i hear you...
    but has anyone tested it? Just take take two cds, both with the same jam...one in mp3 format, one lossless (don't label which is which)...mix em up....and of course listen on the same speakers to control the experiment......after the fact write your guess as to which is which and see if u can tell a difference....I have not done this test myself but my theory is there would be no discernable difference between the two. That being said, I keep my shows in Lossless format on my external hard drive for archiving and compress to mp3 for personal use. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    It's Loss
    Well, you have heard of lossless; MP3 is loss. If you convert the same audio file to wav and MP3, the MP3 file is smaller, and the bit rate is smaller too. Does it really matter? No. Does an MP3 sound good? Yes. But purists do not like MP3 because it does have subtle audio differences. Think of an MP3 as a second or third generation tape.
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    So can anyone enlighten me..
    What exactly gets "lost" when converting to MP3?? I'm with some of you guys - I think MP3's on an ipod sound awesome. I haven't been able to figure out what I'm "missing" with an MP3?? "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
  • fluffhead042
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    I dig....
    Yeah man, I dig mp3 too...I generally convert all of my lossless to mp3 (and keep the shnflac on an external hard drive) Mp3's are smokin.... I can groove for hours on end with no break of the vibe....put in a fatty mp3 disc and call it a day!!! I love it!!! (plus I cannot tell a difference on my car stereo or home stereo for that matter...with most shows)BUT....I still keep my Lossless archive for future listening/conversions when mp3's are obsolete....shnflac or lossless allows your collection to last the test of time....and we all need something 'built to last' "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    I'm with Estim8ed...
    I too remember the not so distant days of trading tapes. mp3 at a decent bit rate puts me right where I need to be. Even when listening on headphones at high volume, every instrument is clear and crispy. I'll leave the archiving to the archivists, I want to listen. the 120gb of live Dead on my iPod keeps me groovin' down the road His job is to shed light, not to master...
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    Good morning everybody. I got the urgent message in my inbox to get over here. I have a lot of reading and catching up to do. I will say this, with all the new vines being proposed, I feel like I am drowning. There is SO MUCH stuff to keep track of. Thanks for all your efforts. I wish I had more to contribute.
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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I am still around but I'm gonna sit back and relax a little, maybe sign up for a vine here or two. I have more stuff than I know what to do with. :-) Been busy on other projects. I'll be checkin in a few days a week.
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got this shn/flac business down pat.. haha need some pointers on making better copies of videos Nero? thanks to all my good friends here!!!
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just posted. Sorry it took so long!
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Thanks cosmicbadger for all that work!
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Once I mail out Red Rocks 83 and Soldier Field 1995 that will be it for me for awhile. Kinda weird I'm leaving the vineyard seeding the last Grateful Dead show. However, there will be a few more vines coming out that I would have a part in but I will not be seeding. It is with great regret that I am removing myself from the vines I have just signed on. In addition. if there are any vines that I am on that get restarted, you can skip over my name or put me on the bottom of the list. I will be on an extended hiatus from the vineyard. Much thanks goes to Ltapilot, JackstrawfromColorado, stuman, and dstache to name a few of the actives here who have really done something amazing here. This is a great community with great ppl and great music. I'll check in once in awhile so I hope to see you guys around but until then, listen to the music play.
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don't forget to come back after that hiatus! take care!
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Thanks for guiding me in the right direction here at the Vineyard. Hope to see you back soon
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Drop on in and say hi every now and then.This place can be one more shining facet in a full and joyful life. Thanks for all you have done to keep the music going out to the community. We are all on the bus, just at different stations. Peace Rick Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again
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Take care and be well. Thanks for all your great work here in the vineyard. It is much appreciated! Joe
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Don't disappear for good! I have found it harder and harder to make it on here myself. I am hoping to spread another vine or 2 before I ride off into the sun set. =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Apparently any postage going to Canada is on hold since the post office is on strike. I guess this goes for outgoing mail as well. So the Furthur Fest 2010, Warfield 1980, and Garcia and Saunders 73 are stuck in the Terrapin State for a little while longer. Sorry for the delay.
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I am burned out...but I am still here and check in once a day. I have accumulated so much "stuff" here thanks to everyone. From an organizational standpoint, I am completely disorganized and need to take a time out and burn some of this flac stuff to CDRs to listen to. I am still here, not just signing up for a lot of vines.
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Hope you're having a grateful summer brother! Keep those flacs a burnin! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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The government has stepped in and ordered Canada Post to get back to work. I have received mail this week. If any vines are in the mail, there might be delays. But I will be prompt in turning them around. Sorry guys.
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Thanks for taking the time to help me get started on here. Take care and I plan on being here for awhile, so cya when you get back!
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Just a heads up. I was camping over the long weekend and got back earlier today, just to rush off to work. I had a couple pkgs in my mail I surmise to be vines. I will rip them tonight and do proper turnarounds tomorrow. I have the tivoli video ready to go to Zep and also a pkg ready for Decola. Thanks for your patience guys. Also, I extracted the Tivoli files, burned a DVD and included it in with the original files, so someone can now just copy DVD if they choose. Anyways, I'll make proper posts when things are in motion tomorrow. Thanks all!! Big ups to to the seeders of all these new vines!! Excited and appreciated
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Hey everyone i will be taking a break for awhile just getting busy around here and i am using any free time towards learning to tape shows... so maybe i can seed some next year...so long for now and THANKS to all who have expanded my collection of shows....hugs to all
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Are you gonna send out the vines you're sitting on like nov 72 and 3 from 75 before you hiatus? Good luck with taping. Bless the tapers!!
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Unless someone didn't post, noonie has parts 2 and 3 of the 1969 vine as well. I hope these get sent out before the self imposed hiatus as I have sent at least a few PM's checking on status of the 2 vines I follow him.
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Canada has been receiving postage (as Poncho said) and I just sent mine off to him today.Furthur Fest 2010, Warfield 1980, and Garcia and Saunders are enroute to the Great White North today.
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I know maustin has been on and off here as of late. He used to be a good viner and I remember months back weird things happened here in the vineyard. Birdsong had some issues come up and some vines were lost on him (if I remember correctly) which is very out of character for him. LIG71 showed up, signed up and disappeared again. Smileydave was put in the hospital and his nephew came onto post to let us know of it (I hope Dave is doing alright. Anyone heard from him?). Longrifle has a couple vines stuck on him and I know Canada had some postal issues but still let us know if you have any or passed them on. maustin started a couple of vines and then something happened with him too and now, as ADAWGWYO posted he posts once in while but no response to any pm's. I've sent him a couple and I've offered to send him his own copies of vines he has signed on so he won't hold them up and he has taken the offer for the 1972 vines I reseeded/started (with a little help from my friends) months ago now. He has responded semi-recentrly saying he is doing better but he doesn't say anything about the vines he has/will be receiving so idk whats up. All I can say is we had a similar issue before with vines being sent and no update as to of where there were sent to or whether they were received. So please for any vine pm the next in line (unless you know for sure they are active which I think we are down to around 10 ppl now) and the older vines that get reseeded pm anyone after you, whether or not they are active cause if enough time passes, some of us aquire copies through other means. Sorry for the long winded rant but I and other long time vineyard users have seen the same thing. This wasn't meant to blast anybody just provide a heads up of some ppl who may need to be dropped down on the list until they are ready to receive the vine.
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Hey Jake. Are you still going to leave for awhile? This summer I am swamped. I have been on other projects. I have been looking for bigfoot, doing a bunch of firearms youtube videos, and just all-around staying busy. But I am still here on the sideline.
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I am still taking a break. I just have very lil free time now and tryin to smooth some things out before i go. Have a good summer everyone
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But it is a hard message to get out to everyone so we'll always have these issues. Anyways ... hope everyone is having a grateful summer... =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I will be out of town tomorrow through Sunday. I have 2-3 vines right now and should have the two more from ADAWGWYO by the time I get back that I will need to send out. I will get all of those copied and out very quickly when I return and if I have time I will get them out tomorrow before I leave. Anyway, just wanted to let you know you won't be hearing from me for about 5 days. Everyone have a great rest of the week and weekend!
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I got an e-mail from deadnet about gathering of the vibes and somehow I clicked or did something, and I ended up at the Further page. I can't remember. Holy crap. I saw they are playing here, about 3 miles away next week so I just got a ticket for the lawn--not too expensive :-) . I have not followed Further, although I got some of their shows, so this was a huge shock. Glad I looked. Almost missed the bus.
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there you go! have fun!!
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take a few pictures and post 'em!
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Dude what the heck you waiting for?? =) Get your butt on that Furthur bus man!! I bet you will be pleasently surprised. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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There is a relatively new upgrade to 10/14/77, sbd.miller.110419, that I would very much like, if anyone has it. Also, the 77 megavine did not include 10/15/77. The best version looks like sbd.cotsman.19154 if anyone has that. My WAV copy isn't right; maybe it is the other version. PM me if you want to trade. Thanks!
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Lots of strange things going on with this web-site...can't log on, avatar gone, can't upload photos....can't send PMs.....etc I guess the folks at deadnet are doing upgrads or something
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this too will pass, but it's happening for me too, if that's any consolation!
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> Lots of strange things going on with this web-site...can't log on, avatar gone, can't > upload photos....can't send PMs.....etc Wow, what a relief. I thought it was just me. I can't log OUT, and I don't think I'm receiving all my PM's. Everyone's avatar is gone. Can't see any new posts in the Vineyard since the NY Eurotour a couple days ago. Hope I'm not holding anyone up. Peace, Chris
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Whewww. Glad that's over. Well, I have some vines and I need to send some out and update. I put everything on hold until things got back on-line. Hope all is well and I'll get everything updated tonight when I get home from work. Peace
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avatars gone....and I am now getting "thread subscription" sent to my e-mail. :-(
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Ok. You can unsubscribe from the e-mail notitifications.... :-) I get "notified" from so many list I am on; I just don't need to be "notified" about posts here....however it may come in handy monitoring a vine..
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Is there a way to turn off, or prevent, the new "improved" e-mail notifications? The "Unsubscribe" feature rarely works and usually results in an error message. Please advise! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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Or whatever they did really screwed this site up. "I won't take your life won't even take a limb just unload my shotgun and take a little skin"
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my first thought was, "they're doing a dry run for how they're going to handle the end of Aug. going into the E72 shipment." :-) :-) ;-)...... they better not!
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Please fix the UNSUBSCRIBE feature in the "New, Improved, Annoying!" e-mail feature!! I really don't need my inbox clogged with every comment made on certain vines!! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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we have stopped the onslaught on this. Sorry for the trouble.
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As I click on any forum topic or vine it opens in a new window ? It's never done this before,, could it be my phone ? Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!
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in the Some Missing Pieces of 1972 Vine thread but I'll post it here as well. There is a new aud tape of 6/17 that came to light in July of this year which is a vast improvement to the circulating copy and the COMPLETE show. The taper has sent it to Charlie Miller so he can work his magic on it. In the meantime check out the new aud here:http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-06-17.GratefulDead1972-06-17
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Would love to see it vined when Charlie releases it. Thanks!
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that copies of the 6-7-2011 Experiments at Talampais Research Institute are starting to circulate. The copy I have is ripped from a dvr, sounds good though.
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Hey all I have been a little behind the past month and haven't been quick to turn around some vines. I know I have the Clapton and bicentennial vines to go out tomorrow. Other than that I have about 20 vines that I believe no one has signed up for after me, so if I have one that you are waiting on please let me know. thanks and I appreciate everything everyone does on here!
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Hi everyone !! well after a year of being out on this big road i finally was able to get a brand new laptop ,, whoo hoo for me .. now im getting back up to where i was,, using my phone for a wifi hot spot im back to downloading and can get on dead.net more often,, hmm i think i smell a new vine from me in the near future .. bty im still out here on the road but whatever vines i sing up for will be handled just the same as they used to be..hope all is well on the east coast ,, take care folks !! Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!
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Hey Stu. Stay safe and keep truckin
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...not finding the most recent vinedex that Cosmic Badger did back in June?? His post is there, with nothing under it!?!?