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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2401
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    73.. now your talking my language

    Fortunately (or unfortunately) I already got sucked into the free stream for the Skull and Roses festival. It would be a big lift to weave a '73 show into set breaks and weaker acts.

    What's the legal term.. conflict of interest, that's it. But I'd love to rain check. Unbroken chain.. yes.

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    11/1/73 McGaw Hall, Northwestern U., Evanston, IL.

    I may well have brought this up awhile ago. Had a good board early on of Set II. Show was close to home so to speak. Born less than a mile away. Just a few miles from the family home at show time (I was a little bit too young for this.) It's a good one for sure! Enjoy!

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    Forgot to mention Chrotchfester 4/9/82.
    And, in my reminiscence, forgot the cool part about Crazy Fingers!
    So believe the situation was they must have been running late, but things were getting dicey waiting for the doors to open, this being GA. I wanna say they had let us in that goofy glass lobby on the side of the building?
    But whatever, while we mashed etc suddenly you could hear music, live music, which of course stirred things up out in the mosh que even worse. People thinking the show was started and WTF are you not letting us in. It started getting kinda ugly, so you could see the fear in the eyes of the poor bastards manning the gates.
    This was before high priced security outfits full of steroid bullies looking to clunk heads. No this was retirees and moms that worked PT to pick up a couple easy extra bucks. They were not about to risk bodily harm trying to stop a stampeding mob, so they did what most reasonable folks would do and let us in!
    By now they’ve been at it for a while? More than one song but intelligibility was hard out there with all the chaos.
    But now that we were in and making that mad dash to the front rail, you could see them in a little half circle, and gulp, they were playing Crazy Fingers, which hadn’t been played since 9/30/76, and wouldn’t get played until 7/18/82.
    Well they kept at it seemingly unaware of our premature arrival for perhaps a minute or so. Then someone noticed and they turned and saw us and unfortunately stopped playing and left.
    Certainly it was a late sound check as the lights were on and by how they were huddled about etc.
    But because of what time it had been it was easy to think maybe the show had started?
    So pretty cool non the less, but you have to wonder what might of been if they had the opportunity for a proper sound check of it?
    And the show, wow, my listen to this one surprised more than Syracuse.
    Some interesting set choices and the Miller sounds pretty fuggin good!
    Worth checking out if you haven’t and love 82!

    This 11/1/73 is sounding pretty fine too!

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    Well, quiet here today?
    Normal, healthy people are probably out enjoying the weather?

    But we’re not lol, so how bout a taste of 11/1/73?
    I think maybe Bluecrow brought this up?
    Anywho, there’s only a Sirmick second set available but it gets good ratings…
    So since it’s one of only three from fall 73 I haven’t heard yet, why the hell not!

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    Don't tell me he owes you money too!! He told me he'd be right back.

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    No, screw that

    He was a quitter and left us alone and broken hearted standing on a corner…
    NAaaaa, Just teasing, yeah, good ole was the man. As fun as we all try to make it, it’s just not the same without GOGD!

    But at least we have the music and each other!
    And speaking of the music, been playing ketchup:

    4/6/69: interesting show, seemed different for early 69? Condensed maybe?
    Audio was ruff, but another historic gem, though I’m not sure it lived up to the hype?
    Meaning, I’ve not heard the Avalons, but have heard a lot about them.
    And sometimes that’s the problem with hype/expectations, but in defense, I was working and not listening on good equipment? I guess I’ll need to relisten? But a fine pick none the less in our pursuit of going deep!

    12/11/79: this is another that was all over for me, but again, not the best listening. I did the first set at work and felt like they had that end of tour, we already peaked vibe. Then finally caught the second set late last night so was tired and not feeling it. But boy that second set really gets going. I think it’s a fine show, but perhaps a step back from some of the previous monsters of this tour. That’s the thing with peaks, it’s downhill after, and from what shows I’ve heard so far this tour, 12/1 seems hard to beat! But just because your not the best doesn’t mean yer bad.
    Overall I thought it was a good show, but the audio/mix wasn’t so good: JG often was lost in the mix etc. Which I think we’ve experienced on other recordings from this tour. Wasn’t that part of the criticism of 12/3?
    But this is another I’ll have to give a better listen sometime?
    Enjoyed the pick none the less!

    4/8/82: it’s a shame the whole show wasn’t like that second set Miller.
    First set seemed to be sorta status quo until that fierce Let It Grow, forgot about that one!
    Seemed like from there on things picked up and was kinda a nice surprise.
    Set list is nothing special but the playing is!
    Seem to remember thinking Rochester was decent, but this one was better?
    I guess I’ll roll that now, 4/9/82, but The Other One is at work today so I’m hitting at least a two fer, good chance for a DHB too!

    I’ve got some other ideas lined up for later, but if someone has something else I’ll hold off?

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    Would love to see GOGD poke his head out from his turtle shell.. for the longest while he was a force on this thread.

    Happy trails my friend, may the sun shine in your back door today

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    Love it OB! Yes, definitely remember the days when St. Pauli girl was the big import. It has probably been over twenty years since I have had a St. Pauli Girl. But used to love those and Beck's. If you remember those.
    Thanks for sharing. Great story. And great 82.

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    What a story. Those were the days. Tossing this show into a device, should be listening shortly.

    Edit: Looks like audience only for the first set, correct? I am going with the Miller/ Frank Streeter for the first set and Miller Soundboard for the second, unless someone steers me towards a better recording.

    I'm fitting this in on the set breaks of the Skull and Roses fest which is apparently streaming for free. Check it out at Livestream dot com frontslash fans. A pretty cool gift. I'm looking forward to getting familiar with several of the acts.

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    No, wait, that comes later!

    Surprisingly, 4/8&9/82 were the only shows that just the Booze brothers attended. We went with others, we met up at etc, but these were the only shows that just the three, well four of us if you include the Booze mobile! (I think it was the first year they switched from Galaxy 500 to LTD?)
    By this point, the BM had been modified with not only dual overhead openers, but Jim had pulled out the carpet and drilled tiny holes in the floor and trunk. If going off on an excursion we’d fill the trunk up with PBRs (the official beer of the BB) and ice. When it melted it would drain through the holes. After the excursion, the BM floor could be hosed down in a jiffy. I think the only radio station that worked was the AM jazz station?
    So we load er up and head up I90 for the Cuse.
    Unfortunately the shows there (at least after 81?) were reserved seats, though most people didn’t pay too much attention to all that, but it made it hard to get close and they’re have those goofy old wooden fold up chairs on the floor. So we ended up hitting the first row of the side seats say about 15 rows back. Being in that first row you could sit and still see atop the floor crowd.
    So I don’t remember too much about the show except it was the first time we’d seen them since they switched sides on stage. The other thing I still really remember was when Jers Wawa died before playing and Bob saying something like “Jerry’s Wawa gave its all to R&R or something and everybody went nuts.
    But it gets interesting after the show. Jim and Keeko are tripping, but I was still a virgin. I probably should have that night as it was a crazy fun night, but I wasn’t ready yet I guess? Probably too scared after hearing so much hype, kinda like something else young folks anxiously await to be old enough for lol.
    So, being it’s not far from Syracuse to Chrotchfester, we drive a bit to Ra cha cha, and pull into a motel, looks cheap, this should work. I stayed in the car but the 2 tripping fools go to the window, not the lobby (that should have been a sign).
    So I can watch and tell somethings going on and these 2 are just busting over laughing while the guy in the booth is looking nervous. So they come stumbling back still cracking up as can happen under these conditions, and proceed to attempt (they’re booth laughing too hard to talk) to explain how the guy asked if we were some kind of weirdos wanting a hotel room for three dudes, “for the whole night”? like we were some kind of degenerates instead of his now obvious clientele!
    So we finally get a room elsewhere and those guys are on fire with energy. Keeko was running, jumping, and doing Swan dives through the air, landing on the bed, yelling weeeeeee like a happy tyke. Now, you have to understand, Keeko was large, and so carrying a six pack and not going through the drive through was his idea of exercise. It’s the only night in all the years I knew him that he showed any kind of “energy” and it was one of the most fun nights watching this big kinda biker, well, more like Casper the friendly ghost with greasy jeans and a blue pocket tee shirt having more fun than even a child! Beautiful!
    So after a short night of drinking and debauchery, and being already in town, it was off to the infamous California Brew Haus for liquid breakfast, where they had some ridiculous number of beers on tap etc. This was when things like St Pauli Girl and Heineken were exotic micro beer, at least in our backwoods environment so we’d been wanting to hit the Mecca for a long time.
    The place wasn’t quite open, but they let us in and I can still close my eyes and picture being there. The smell of stale beer and cigarettes, and bleach, as they were still cleaning up after the previous nights local rock show etc.
    The light, I can still remember the late afternoon light as the sun shown through the lingering haze and the way it filtered through my pitcher of Bass ale! We all got a pitcher of something we’d never heard of, or only dreamed of, and man the Bass ale was awesome! I just sat and looked at the light filtering through it for several minutes before pouring as it looked that good!
    So after that we head to the Crotchfester show and as we’re pulling into the lot my still quite young cousins etc come running up and ask if they can stash their gear in our car?
    So as I start to come out the back seat, the river of beer cans accumulated over the course of the road trip literally spills out and startles the kiddies. They’d only heard stories, up til now! We of course laughed our areses off.
    There was just enough room in the huge back seat for a huge cooler, and me. My job as the junior tadpole member was to pop a top and hand it forward just as Klondike Keek drained his last pull. If I was tardy he’d fire the empty can back directly at me, if I was on time he’d simply drop the empty on the back floor and grab the fresh one in quick flash. So after a few days the empties would pile up, and being environmentally friendly types we didn’t want to liter!
    So they kids then inquire about the trunk. So Jim pops the trunk, still relatively filled with beer and melting ice (hey, you can never too much but you can have not enough. Learned that in Boy Scouts!
    The kids jaws hit the pavement and we all had great fun!
    The Crotchfester show I went up front with the kids, but the 2 old veterans headed to their usual: first row of side seats about 15 or 20’ back. I believe I met the Wild Knights guys, or the early version members anyway in the front row.
    But that’s a whole nother story…

    My how things have changed in 40 years!

    Disappointed that there doesn’t seem to be a good first set? Miller for set 2 though!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 08:36

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Fun show for sure, nice representation of a solid ’84 show.
Whenever I hear a good ’84 show, I always think, hmm wonder what the rest of that tour was like.
I guess that’s the magic that kept the Dead on the road for so long.

Great Set 1 with real nice Bird Song, and like many have commented a top Jack Straw, best of the ‘80s? best after hiatus? However you want to quantify it, it get’s a lot of best talk.

The Shakedown > Samson got the 30 Days treatment in 2017.
A relative newly dusted off Smokestack Lightning with a real sweet jam after, short drums > space (is there a reel flip in here I’m missing, might have to research). Great post Drums set list Wheel > TOO > Black Peter > Lovelight. And last of 2 Revolutions for the year. First Black Peter into Lovelight? First of the infamous Amy Boards.

It was a nice return from my 1970 wormhole that I entered on 7/24 with the 9/20/70 show, went deep on that one, even ventured into the land of the PERRO session tapes, fun trip. Completely enjoyable and fascinating.

Nice Pick!

You all getting shipping notices?

What’s next?

10/21/83 you say..

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 09:46

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Yes, the 83 30 Trips show, let's do it.
I remember this being a good show.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 13:24

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Well, I've heard it said there's something wrong in my head, now.

And the doctors can't seem to figure it out. Been on the shelf for a couple months with an odd malady - more or less constant dizzy, spacey feeling, which family and friends quickly pointed out seems par for the course for me (yeah, love you guys, too).

It feels kind of like I've had a couple of pretty strong mai tais. Not the worst feeling in the world, and I get the "buzz" without having to spend money on libations! Or a round trip ticket to Hawaii.

But, I've had to be horizontal a good bit of the time, can't really exercise, drive, etc. The best way to explain it is that I've been living inside of a 2 month long Dark Star>Seastones>Drums>Space>Feedback. With a Samba encore - Yikes!

Anyway, things have improved over the last several days, and I'm gradually returning to civilized society, although that seems to be slipping away lately out here on the west coast.

So, I'm only five dozen shows behind the rest of you. I should be able to catch up by the end of the weekend! And I nominate 9/19/2003 for a listen one of these days - a terrific post-GD show.

Cheers and good health to all.

Edit: Man, I really have been out of the loop for a bit. Neon Nikes - really??

Good to see you back in the mix Bolo. Man, good to hear things are getting better. A little Black Peter?

We will have to cut you some major slack on the past picks.

2003? You will have to help us out with that pick.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 18:42

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Or perhaps Mexicali Blues.

I think what Bolo was trying to say is Dave's Picks 36 is 04/16/78 Huntington Civic Center - Huntington, WV.

It was the Peggy-O reference that made me think of this show, and then when you see the first set ends in Scarlet>Fire. ..well, oh.. and get better Bolo from whatever ales you. Great to see you back, be good get or stay healthy.

Edit: Or it could be I am full of shit and think we are due for a '78. Either way, it's a win.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 22:50

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A Classic. And so it is.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 03:32

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Bolo - it can be a bit restricting, having dizzy spells. I acquired them-with attendant feelings of nausea about 5 years ago. No one was quite sure why-possibilities included a reaction to prescription drugs, having low blood pressure and an imbalance in my ears. Nothing was decided, so I just carry on as I am. I find I am alright if I don't look down. So I don't.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 07:00

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Hey Bolo, glad you're feeling better and that doesn't sound fun.
And in regards to the west coast, You know the nearer your destination, The more you're slip slidin' away.

Hot tip on the 9/19/03 show... anybody got the SBD of this one out there?

It looks like that whole Dead tour was released on some limited edition Summer Getaway CDs, so I thought'd I'd check.

I've never listened to the Joan Osborne stuff, this show is sounding pretty dope and so naturally.. the SBD came to mind :) Some things never change in regard to collecting music.

Dug the 1983 yesterday and looks like some early 1973 for today, don't mind if I do.
Shipping notice received over here.
The Beach Boys mighta said and we'll have fun fun fun...

Be well all.. lmk about that 9/19/03 show if somebody got's it.

Oh! She's singing on Rueben & Cherise, gotta go bye.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 10:37

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I might just have them.. I need to look. I recall having a lot, perhaps of 2003 and none from 2004.. not sure why I gave up after 2003???

I will look tonight.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 10:43

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Thanks Jim!

I found a bunch of the others, but not 9/19/03.

It's cool stuff!

LMK if you're looking for anything and if I have it I'm happy to work up a lil trade.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 12:07

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I like the way you work it.

Your guys partnership is pretty cool, nice job fellas.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 18:16

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I'm afraid today's website glitches were probably my fault. As part of a rather complex NDA with my "employer," I am required to give them advance notice before I post on any website. In my compromised state of mind, I forgot to do so. I'd explain, but it's complicated. And dangerous.

In the unlikely event that anyone did a screen capture of my previous post, I strongly urge you to reboot your computer, change the locks on your door and stay away from the windows.

Also, I have the SBD of 9/19/2003 (WAV format) if you need it. Not sure how I would send that digitally - pretty big file.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 18:57

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....HCS -> Jam -> Bobby McGee. Yeah. I member that.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 19:56

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Great sound.. It's been a while since I listened to this show. Makes me think we have much more 1973 coming our way the next few years.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 21:51

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Thanks for joining me on these one Jim, GOGD, Vguy and hopefully the rest of you. Gollum, you should be a fan of this show. Oroborous, I know you love this one.

This release really changed my view of releases. This is by far the most played Dave's Picks for me. Not saying it is the best ever, just the most played. Sound quality is A++. There are zero flaws in the entire release.
The Deal just kills it, so far my favorite China-Rider. The transition is unreal and I have not heard anything come close. Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Box of Rain! So many highlights. Love the HCS. Why did they retire this song and when did they retire it? Love the WRS prelude into eyes. Did that ever happen again? And such a great finish.

Yes, Jim, I sure hope we get more 73. Dave's 16 is killer, Scooby Doo, and Dave's 32 at the Spectrum is so good. Love the variety. That He's Gone, Truckin, into the Jam- Dark Star into Sing me back home is super special!

So let's hope they have more 73 in the Vault. So many good shows.

Be well and let me know where we are going next.

No shipping notice here in MN, but that is
no surprise. I am usually 1 week behind.

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 00:32

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Yes, I surely do love 4/2/73 Deadvikes. I'm trying to keep up with the daily picks but have been dragging ass a bit this week. I'm still knee deep in Sunday's pick 2/11/70! I always avoided 2/11 because of the special guests. I guess I'm wary of outsiders. That's silly, of course, and it's just a great show. The whole Star-Spanish-Lovelight jam is sweet and meaty like a butt steak.

The three Spring 73 Dave's Picks are among my very favorites, too! I'd love it if we got some more 73 DaP's- maybe 8/1/73 or 9/11/73? I think those Dark Stars might be underrated because of sound quality (I dunno?).

I'm enjoying y'alls comments. Some day I'll catch up with you guys...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 08:00

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Sent you a PM

Thanks Bolo!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 08:27

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Sure do Love Spring '73

4/2/73 is solid top to bottom without a doubt. Really like when Phil still sung on Half-Step, even (especially?) when his voice is cracking (12/19/73 comes to mind as the standard to measure against), just ain't the same without that little bit of wonderful. Great great stuff here people. No complaints at all. Wave That Flag stuck out as it had me bobbin' along. And the Jam in Eyes that Jerry gets into at 14 minutes is the stuff I keep coming back for again and again and again.

No secret that PITB is an absolute favorite, possibly my #1 favorite, but def in the top 5. This one is great per usual.
But I had a flash yesterday on it's life cycle.

So you know how Dark Star had it's most epic versions from 1969-1970, IMO of course, I mean it's always great, but 1969-1970 those Stars are just universes of greatness, peak versions shall we say. It stays in the rotation, and is played great, but they're not 1969-1970 Stars. I'd say this is when Jerome was most excited about it, which makes all the difference to me.

Playing In The Band seems to have a similar life cycle in that regard and it's peak is arguably 1972-1973, again it stays in the rotation, and is played great, but they're not 1972-73 Playings (sp?). Anyhooo.. just wanted to say that cause that's what I was thinking about as I drifted through yet another magnificent PITB from '73.

Plus the coffee's kicking in and I don't really want to do the other stuff I should do today, so yeah I'm procrastinating.

And if you made it this far, congrats! You are a trouper.

That 2003 The Dead stuff was ringing my bell yesterday, those set lists had me at Born Cross-Eyed, another top 5 song for me.

What's on the haps for today?

PS - I probably wouldn't click on the RAW RAGE link below, that sounds a bit sketchy..
Spammers does anybody really go for that?

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 09:38

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Interesting that people gravitate towards 4-2-73. I think the three Dave's picks from spring '73 are a really nice triad. Between them you have pretty much everything they were playing at the time.

You've got 3-28-73, Dave's Picks 16, affectionately known around these parts as Scooby Doo House. Recorded by Kidd, opening with a Cumberland -> Here Comes Sunshine, all the expected 1st set goodies, and a 43-minute Dark Star into Eyes deep in the second set. This recording doesn't sound as warm to me as Dave's Picks 21 - 4-2-73 at the Garden.

On this one Rex Jackson gets the credit for recording. Which is interesting since she and Betty were more or less a team during this period weren't they? maybe this accounts for the slightly warmer sound, which is generally attributed to Betty's recordings. This show has a great 1st set China-Rider and a fantastic 17 minute Playing in the Band to close out the 1st set. Set two has a nice slinky Mississippi, and the aforementioned Sunshine -> Jam -> Bobby McGee is unique as far as i know. The jam is a little dissonant for my tastes but no biggie. I believe this is the Eyes where garcia sings "There follows his wagon behind him thats loaded with kale".

Then comes my favorite of the bunch, Dave's 32. Both Rex and Kidd get the recording credit on this one, and it seems to me to fit right in between the previous two shows sonically. most of the 1st set is typical, but still very well played and the set has a great flow to it. I really dig the chorus like effect that Bobby was using on this tour - notably on Looks Like Rain. This show just seems to go on and on and the 3rd disc is special: He's Gone -> into a nearly 40 minute Truckin-> Dark Star (sans vocals) and then a Sing Me Back Home.

Just a fantastic show. The only thing this triptych is missing is a big Other One, which hopefully we'l lget soon in another Spring '73 release. This is my absolute favorite time for the band. Pig is gone, but i think that freed them up in a sense, and you can hear it in the playing, which is adventurous. And they have a ton of new material to learn and hone. I get it that some of the 1st sets are repetitive, but I usually just hone in on Bobby or Phil, who are always playing something unexpected. Bring on more '73. I'd love some more fall shows too, which might be a bit more complicated to release becasue of the guest horn players.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 15:30

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Well put slow dog. They are all great shows.. 4/2 has a little pixie dust mixed in with the mix, so it probably gets a little extra hype for that.

With the number of unreleased '74 shows just beginning to thin out.. 73 is going to come into the foreground eventually. I bet we get a good dose of 73 over the next year.. year and a half.

Anyone get Philly yet?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 05:53

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No, in fact still no shipping notice for me.

Who has a pick for us today?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 08:57

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Just an idea...

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 09:06

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Started 4-2-73 this morning driving into work.
Sounded mighty fine.
Sound quality of releases just keeps getting better. Time to Plangentize/Normanize 12-18-73.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 15:46

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Anniversary and one of the the Dave's Picks i actually know the number of 2!!!! Looking forward to watching Egypt tonight even though I have the release!! Good weekend everyone. Bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 16:53

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Sounds like a great idea Jim, I have been gone all day. Just catching up. Capitol Center! Let's do it.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 09:01

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I've never understood why this Dark Star never gets any love. I remember in my tape trading days thinking that it ranked alongside 6/10 as the peak 73 Dark Stars. My old tape had crummy sound. I haven't heard the upgraded archive versions yet.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 09:39

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It's an absolute killer of a Dark Star! Dave & Co, when you gonna release 8/1/73, 2/9/73 and 5/26/73, I aint getting any younger.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 10:06

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8/1/73 sounds good to me.

What a guy, Hey Garcia!

Man these folks at Dead.net, JerryGarcia.com, etc... have been busy during this pandemic, can barely keep up and that's all I'm doing. Totally Hardcore.

Releases, Shakedown Streams, Studio Outtakes, Dead Casts, Birthday Parties, Holy Shit!
I'm impressed.

Enjoy the Day you all, looking forward to some epic Dark Star action.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 08/02/2020 - 19:00

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Well audience tape only on Archive...... I wonder if a Board is in the Vault.... Starting with the Playing right now in second set.... don't think I will be awake for whole show... be good all.... bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 07:58

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Let's keep the train rolling along.
I am going to check out 11/28/80 from the 30 Trips release. Sending out the 1980 vibe in the dimming hopes of a 1980 box.

Loved the 3/14/90 revisit. Always have room for a Spring 1990 release. Black Peter!

Be well folks and everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 13:18

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Ha.. listened to this 2 or 3 days ago (the day we did Worcester '83), so it should count.. ??.

Great little show.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 14:30

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Jim, funny, for sure it counts. And it is a short show, finished it off before lunch. Really laid back show. Only 18 songs. Really like the Passenger, Deep Elem, LLR is good and the Deal is hot. To Lay Me Down is excellent, very well played and the Terrapin into Drums is well played. Black Peter! Sugar Mag US Blues closer.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 16:10

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Well, this fall is the 40th anniversary, and we did get Warfield Acoustic last year which caused a lot of speculation about a Fall ‘80 Box.

Sign me up!

Conekid, yes, that has always been the hope for me after they started releasing the big box sets like E72, and the two Spring 1990 box sets, I thought it was only a matter of time. Here we are the 40th anniversary!

I know Glasser did not work on the June 76 Box, so I am hoping he was busy on something else??

And I have heard all the rumors, the tapes don't exist, they recorded over them after they released Dead Set and Reckoning, or For the Faithful. I think I still have my For the Faithful LP.
Anyway, I don't think that is true. Three reasons. They rereleased Dead Ahead with new bonus songs in the 2000s and expanded Dead Set and Reckoning in 2004 or 2007, can't remember the exact year, with all new bonus material from the run. So, there has to be something there.

Somebody knows around here.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 19:35

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I have had him pretty occupied doing roofing repairs on my house. But it's going to rain the next several days, so he should be back in the studio cranking out 1980 gems as far as I'm concerned!

It does seem odd, the 1980 dilemma. I guess it's mostly true, but man.. they didn't even keep the single reel masters? Something must left worth releasing in the tool shed.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 03:46

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That appeared out of nowhere, so hopefully some SBD reels were in the ABCD stash.

Yeah, the reels weren’t in the vault because they were in the storage shed.
Fingers crossed.....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 05:51

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Conekid, that would be cool. From the lists I have read, I am not sure they received anything more the acoustic sets from October 9 and 10.
Jim, you mention I guess it is mostly true. Can you elaborate on that?

Who has a pick for today?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:10

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Hi-Ya, chiming in on the 1980 stuff, in 2012 DL said the following:

“Recorded every show from Warfield & Radio City Music Hall to Multitrack. Unfortunately a lot of that was erased in the early 80s. Nonetheless there’s material there.”

A number of the Acoustic sets were part of the Betty Boards that were returned, I'm assuming those were two-track mixes though and not multi-track.

Not sure if there's any info about the wiping of the original tapes. If anybody has info on that story let me know.

In other news, looks like new DaP V35 might be arriving soon... fingers x'd.

And lastly 5/29 & 5/30/71 look kinda cool...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:21

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Those were general comments.. I have no facts to back them up. I just can't believe this there is nothing left on the shelves from those tours.

Lemieux.. if you listening, check in that unlabeled banana box in the back of the room with the Blues for Allah painting. We think you missed some reels.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:42

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Sounds like a winner to me. Cal Expo.

I am in the camp of hope for 1980. Time will tell.
Thanks for the information guys, this is better than the alternative.

GOGD, did you have a link for Dave's comments?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 09:04

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To bad they erased those tapes, I'm happy to hear that some survived. I'm. happy they released the 10/9/80 and 10/10/80 acoustic sets, I was at both those shows , so that might mean they still have the electric sets for those shows. Both those shows were killer shows,electric and acoustic , so hopefully the electric sets will we the light of day and be.released.

BTK: Yeah, so I think based on Dave's comments that some of the multi-track stuff still exists, some of it got wiped. And then there's also Betty's 2 Track mixes that exist, I think those are mostly acoustic sets, at least based on what circulates.
I'm tempted to go through both runs and gather my notes on what SBDs are in circulation and which aren't, but I'm thinking that's a pretty good representation of what exists and what doesn't in the vault.

DeadVikes: Yeah, here's a link to Dave talking about this on January 17th 2012 @ 33:48ish - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19834305

It's a good watch and pretty informative. I stumbled on it looking into the 1970 tapes in the Vault, and it did answer my question on that as well.

Unfortunately, he states that there are virtually no shows in the Vault from July 16 through December 1970, largely because of Owsley getting busted. I guess the Dead themselves were not running tape at all during this time. Might be old news for some, but I wanted to confirm it with my own ears.

Clever Deadhead and Photographer Bob Minkin also gave us a clue to this on Page 221 of his book Live Dead with a picture of the 1970 reels in the Vault, in the picture there's a huge gap of reels between 7/16/70 - 12/27/70 :(

Dang it.

The above totally coincides with the tapes that circulate, mostly what exists in circulation from that time frame are either Fillmore East Crew SBDs (partials), FM Broadcasts, or Audience recordings.

So, mystery solved? I'd still like a nice list of what's there and not, but yeah that might be my OCD.

Since we're all getting older here, I think some time should be put towards figuring out what else exists from the Festival Express and to try and get that stuff and get it out there. I know there's more of that than what circulates.

Unfortunately, I don't see any 1970 acoustic set stuff happening for American Beauty 50th, because it doesn't sound like it exists. Happy to be wrong.

Alright, well there you have it, and that's the way it is Tuesday August 4, Two Thousand and Twenty, I'll be away on assignment and Dan Rather will be sitting in here for the next few years.