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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Right on, a blast from the past. I grew up across the border from Vernon, NJ in a then rural area of Orange County, NY and went to Accident Park when it was just the Alpine Slide, and maybe a couple of times later. Injuries abounded there, from the minor to the life alteringly tragic. Take a look at the water slide loop that these yahoos came up with, the Cannonball Loop, no engineering or water-ride experience appear to be involved, just the back of a napkin and an idea of what a loop looks like.

    Love the fun random connections that come up on these threads.

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    ....I've started, over the waning weeks of the 'Summer of Sixtus'**, the newly released read: "Action Park - Fast Times, Wild Rides, and the Untold Story of America's Most Dangerous Amusement Park", which is a MAJOR callback to my youth (yooot!) in the late '70's and early/mid-80's when spending time in NJ and at 'The Shore' - which always did its best to emulate the death-defying antics via water slides but never approached the true point-of-no-return that was Action Park. My assumption is that there are at least one or two peeps here that had experienced the unadultered chaos of Action Park. I still remember the commercials and visits, which made me buy this breezy, sarcastic, comical, adventurous, very fun book.

    ** 'Summer of Sixtus' has officially come to an end as today was my first day at my new Pharma gig. No complaints on this end, it's good to be back in the driver's seat.

    Looking forward to DP 35 big time, gimme some Philly.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

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    Carlo13, the Grateful Dead were huge fans of Wagner, and they even cancelled a couple of shows in 1985 so they could attend the performance of the Ring Opera in S.F. I saw the Dead shortly after at the Greek Theatre, it was a blast!

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    I've been a huge Wagner fan all of my life thanks to my parents playing classical music in our home.

    I've seen his operas performed any number of times and like the Grateful Dead, I'm happy to travel great distances to see one. Last summer we made a train journey from Seattle to see his epic four-opera cycle "Der Ring Des Niebelungen" at San Francisco Opera.

    Wagner the man was quite unpleasant (anti-semite, philanderer, swindler, etc) but he was a brilliant composer and created the combination of music linked to on-stage action that we see applied today in musical scores for motion pictures.

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    Richard Wagner died about 60 years after Beethoven who died around 1827 and wagner around 1887. Wagner was considered new age classical who said that "I am going to produce classical music that is much more interesting and new age than Beethoven's boring and sleep inducing symphonies." He said something like this back in the day.

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    My own latest music reads include Patti Smith's memoirs "Just Kids" and "M Train". And just yesterday I finished Holly George-Warren's excellent Janis Joplin biography "Janis: Her Life And Music".

    The latter brought back bittersweet memories. I was fortunate enough to see her perform twice. The first was on the Cheap Thrills tour in '68 and the second time was at Woodstock.

    Such a tragic loss to her fans along with Pigpen, Hendrix, and Jim Morrison.

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    A sentiment that has been shared by many (including The Greg Kihn Band and their Breakup Song). To put it another way, "It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came to late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over." I suspect this is a generational thing, although I confess that the high point of this feeling came for me in the '80s when there just really wasn't a lot of new music that I dug. I dug some '80s stuff, but not a lot.

    Lately, I'm finding a lot of new stuff to dig, although it is not the classic rock sound of yore, nor is it a Dead clone. Mostly, it's artists doing something I haven't really heard before, or doing something old with a new twist. Sturgill Simpson, Khruangbin, Leon Bridges, Flaming Lips, Tame Impala and St. Paul and the Broken Bones would be a few examples of newer artists that I dig. So nobody is gonna do what Hendrix or the Dead did better than the original, I agree with that, but there will be artists finding new forms and styles that will be just as cool in their own way. And honestly, if I only had one artist to listen to, or only one style of music available, it would get old no matter how good it is.

    Edit: Or, since I've been on a little Who kick lately, "Rock is dead they say. Long live rock".

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    A friend asked me what I had been reading lately, so I thought I would share my latest reads:

    Guitar King: Michael Bloomfield's Life in the Blues by David Dann-excellent read if you are into Bloomfield
    California Dreaming by Michele Philips - OK with some insight into how fast the Mama's and Papa's took off and then broke up
    Rod Serling: His Life, Work and Imagination by Nicolas Parisi - Excellent detailed look at behind the scenes of the Twilight Zone
    Simple Dreams by Linda Ronstadt - a great read, very funny and honest, tells her story and the story of the beginnings of Country Rock
    Carrie Fisher: A Life on the Edge by Sheila Weller - If you admire Carrie, this is a great book telling her story

    The easiest, most fun read is Linda's.

    I am now beginning to read the Beatles Anthology, a huge book, authorized by them and in their own words.

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    Snafu, I saw Stevie Ray Vaughn play twice, once at the San Francisco Blues Festival in 1979, and once at a Wavey Gravey event called.Cowboys for Indians, he played solo acoustic. . You're right he was absolutely fantastic.

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    47 years ago today the Dead did their famous sound check at Watkins Glen. Hendrix Freak, were you at this, or Strider were you there?

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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What is this Egypt 1978 stuff that is showing up???

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Does anyone know how to access the list of Bear’s recordings?? I’ve tried, but perhaps you have to kick in the $400 first. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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I hadn't noticed the Egypt '78 merch until Chuck pointed it out, but it does seem like they're putting a dead logo on everything that they can think of from Axes and Aprons to Shirts and Shoes. Grateful Dead Leatherman Wave? Cool tool, but nothing I would have thought of on my own.

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....'Rocking The Cradle' was released some time ago, encompassing some pretty good stuff (lookin at you, bonus disc) from their Egyptian Great Pyramid run in Fall 1978...hence the merch tie-in, assuming. The offering came with an accompanying DVD, which I actually don't recall ever watching although I'm sure I did at some point. The DVD also has some 'home-video' snippets of the trip from the band, which apparently will also be aired tonight.

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Yes, the bonus material on the DVD is them touring Egypt and riding on a boat on the Nile. Bill Walton is on the boat with them.

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I think I was supposed to get DP #35 but got 33 instead! I already have 33 and 34!

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My Dap 35 has been sitting in Fontana for 3 days. No movement whatsoever unless they just stopped scanning it.

So you got Dap 33? Wouldn’t that be the all time new low at dead.net if everyone was sent Dap 33 by mistake? Unbelievable

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I’m with VGuy - pass. This new business model of copious amounts of Dead branded stuff reminds me of the old Get Smart series, where Max discovers The Craw’s Dry Cleaning business is merely a front for the nefarious deeds of Kaos. Substitute “spy network” for music output, and “laundry” for all this Dead swag, and they have it nailed:

Bobo:
The spy network is just a front. The real money is in the laundry.

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I've still not received Dap 34...

UPS status update hasn't changed since the 3rd day after I got my shipping notice back in... (checks email).. April.

Thought I'd give it time given the world's situation.. but this is ridiculous. Why can't we get a proper shipping system?

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If you haven’t done so already you really need to get marye involved. At this point, she is the only one who can help you remedy this situation

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Ya know, I'm really starting to dig these Friday night Shakedown Streams...

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....sounds and looks pretty damn good to me.
edit. Marye does get it done.
1978 > 2020.
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Edit squared. Happy Birthday Jerome John Garcia. 🍺

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I for one love the performances ,not their best but still packed with grateful Fueled Cosmic-magical Energy! ! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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7/31/74: Great show that meanders into some great pockets of mellow Dead. Listened to it yesterday and today. The audio could use The New Norman. This '74 show sounds more like DP 7 and 31. Plangent, Cogent, whatever it takes. Things have moved along - just listen to Jai-Alai, 30 Trips, and the '74 shows from the Pacific Northwest box set.

And now into 8/1/73. I have only the bare essentials: Bird Song, Dark Star, Eyes of the World, and Morning Dew. That'll do it.

8/1/73 - also reportedly the last time Jerry played the Alligator.

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I have to say I love the Shakedown Stream. Dave L. and the crew once again get my thanks and gratitude for giving us these shows. Plus the pre-show is great with all the guests. I love hearing all of the stories. Last weeks pre-show with David Crosby was great and I got a laugh with his unexpected early exit.

Now Rocking the Cradle...so back when this was released in 2008 I was fairly critical of it. I was passionate about this band and the shows that got released. I am still just as passionate, but back then I was misguided. One of my issues with Rocking the Cradle extended into the newly initiated Road Trips at that time, which had to do with the lack of complete shows. My stance has changed 180 degrees on the complete show debate- I prefer them but do not demand them.

Yet the bigger issue with Rocking the Cradle, and I still stand by this, is that the Egypt shows, albeit a momentous occasion, were not very good musically on the whole. I feel like that release came to be due to 2008 being the 30th anniversary of those shows and of course the location of the shows being so exotic. I felt that there were better shows that could have been released back then.

Looking back from the weird year of 2020, I not only changed my stance on the Road Trips series which I love, but Dave L. and company have given us so many great shows since 2008. Between all of the box sets, Dave's Picks, bonus material on reissues, and 30 Days of Dead we have been given a plethora of better shows since then. I think if Rocking the Cradle was released in current times, I would be way more interested in it. Yet in 2008, and not having that elusive Tardis, I didn't see the future so I did have my objections. Seriously who would have thought that we would get all of these great shows? I remember thinking that getting a complete run or tour, say Europe 72 for example, was impossible. I was wrong...happily.

Now I do own Ricking the Cradle, as I picked up a used copy a few years ago. Its not a show(s) I turn to often but I really like the video material from it.

Coming back full circle, next week's Shakedown Stream is going to be the last for a while. I am a little bummed but as we know, all good things come to an end at least for a while. I have got used to it and along with Phish's and Dead and Co. Tuesday and Saturday streams it has made things better in the twisted year we are stuck in. As always, I am grateful for all of the great music we have been given.

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Why do we get tracking that does nothing for a week. While we wait with no updates, etc etc. Just wondering thsts all .

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rb et al., send me a PM and I'll get the Doc on the case. More generally, I don't know what it's like where you live, but in my neighborhood in Oakland we haven't had a mail delivery for two days, so quite a number of things seem to not be working correctly in these weird times.
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big happy birdday to jeramiah jeremy jerry garcia junior the third

once in a while you get shown a lite in a stranger place if you look to the rite
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The orange thing in The White House has told the Postmaster General who was appointed 6/15/20 and is an ardent supporter of the administration, to sloooow things down. His 1st attempt at derailing mail-in voting? I'm not getting political but thought all concerned might like to know why things are/may be running late.

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....because the future of the United States of America is on the line. This is bigger than the latest Dave's.
Seriously. Vote early.
This is not a drill folks.

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Grateful Han, agreed, these streams are great. I watched most of Egypt last night and was really impressed. Tonight I watched the pre-game and was really blown away with how eloquent and expressive Mickey is. So sharp. His memories of '78 are great. Thanks so much Mickey.

I know its somewhat unavoidable and I don't pretend to be a spokesperson for the community in any way, but I personally would encourage people to focus their political thoughts on other outlets. For sure let your family and friends know how you feel about whats going on in the US these days and what needs to happen in November. I just don't want the conversations here to degrade into the partisan morass that I see in so many places. This site is a refuge of sorts and I don't want to have to leave it.

I respect differing opinions and everyone's right to speak freely here and anywhere. I just personally would like to associate this forum with the dead and their music and not politics.

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I fully agree that politics and political discussions should be saved for fora that exist specifically for that purpose rather than be aired on here. However, in the current viciously divisive situation in the United States where seemingly every issue, however trivial, causes bitter division along political lines it is difficult to avoid politics completely when discussing why people believe things are the way they are right now. It is sad to see a country tearing itself apart, but that is what is happening.

It is always interesting to hear the points of view of others on here and this would be a poorer place without that but it would be appreciated if politics could be kept out of discussions as much as possible. We have all seen what getting political leads to on here and it isn't pretty.

Your chance is coming, however. If you don't like the way things are, or indeed if you do, then get out and exercise your democratic right to vote. As Vguy said "the future of the United States of America is on the line". Apparently you will then get the president that you deserve. Of course it isn't that simple in this day and age, but we are all aware of that sad fact.

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I wouldn't have thought advising people to vote was controversial politically. Its not as though advice was proffered on who to vote for.

I haven't noticed Dicks Picks 26 on vinyl popping up at any UK outlets yet. Eyes peeled for that one.

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Mine has been sitting in Fontana ca for the past 5 days. No scans, no updates, no movement.

Edit: the problem doesn’t seem to be the post office. The problem seems to be with UPS Mail Innovations

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Shipping notice appeared on 07/31 but UPS don’t recognise the tracking number yet. I’ll be happy if the album turns up at any point in August.

Bear’s Sonic Journals - Commander Cody
Folklore - Taylor Swift
Never the same way once - Doc and Merle Watson
Music for 18 Musicians - Steve Reich
The topography of the lungs - Evan Parker

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...I don't know, sounded like a suggestion of who not to vote for, which sounds like taking a position on who to vote for in another way. I see a lot of political statements on here that people don't seem to consider political, maybe because it is an expression of a political viewpoint with which they agree. Certainly when I criticized Joe's drug war legislation in a response to a drug war post it was perceived as political, Slow Dog and Jim were quick jump on the post as inappropriately political, so criticizing Trump (we all know who the orange one refers to) about a political accusation related to an alleged attempt to steal the election seems at least equally political. Have to say I feel better seeing that Slow Dog at least is discouraging political discussions pretty much without regard to the viewpoint. I mean, I love to talk (argue?) about politics and am always willing to throw down if someone wants a debate, and I have a dim enough view of most politicians and a thick skin so I doubt you'll hurt my feelings, but I notice some folks do get pretty upset when confronted with a different viewpoint than their own, so I generally make an effort not to inject politics into these threads. Not that I'm always successful. But if you are going to excuse political comments with one viewpoint, don't pretend it is the politics that bothers you, at least admit that it is the expression of a political viewpoint with which you disagree that bothers you.

No one likes politics, but.....“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”
“If every Deadhead in the state of Florida had voted in the 2000 election, it, would be a very different world today”
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Same

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Seen this bumper sticker on a car parked at a local trail head yesterday...

"Weir On A Mission From Bob"

A little Blues Bros/Dead humor.....cracked me up.

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How did HST know that all the deadheads in Florida didn't vote in 2000? Are deadheads politically fungible, sharing identical political viewpoints throughout the vast pool of individuals who are deadheads? Is it a political group not a group of fans of a band that stayed pretty consistently non-political throughout their career? Would all the Forida deadheads have voted the same? Are you not a deadhead if you don't subscribe to a particular political ideology? When I first started hanging out with deadheads, one of the things I liked was the diversity of opinion and thought, and a tolerance for differences so it seems odd to me to think of deadheads as a homogeneous political group-mind. Maybe I was wrong.

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Is really killing the vibe here, at least for me...let's try and keep our focus on the lighter side of things here...I know that many of us have very strong opinions regarding the crazy times we're in, I'd love to see more comments about the Daze Between stream than about this b.s. that will blow away...

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Most discussions on here are welcome, as long as there’s no rancor involved. But I generally prefer music based topics. I love to get turned on to music I don’t already have. McCoy Tyner’s Sahara was the last awesome thing I got from these pages.
I only followed the tracking on a Dave‘s once. It was so frustrating that I now just wait to be surprised. Based on when other folks get their copies, I’m generally not in the first wave, but usually in the 2nd or 3rd wave. That’s fine.

Last 5:
Monkees-Headquarters
Zappa-Finer Moments
Iron And Wine-The Shepherd’s Dog
Dixie Chicks-Gaslighter
VA-Divided & United, The Songs of the Civil War

If I want peace of mind, I never discuss politics

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....and for that, I apologize. Now excuse me as I gloss over the lyrics to Throwing Stones.
I made my statement ambiguous on purpose.
Be safe. Be smart. Be brave. I love you all. I fare you well and hope the four winds bring you safely home.
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...I just stumbled across Bear's Sonic Journal: Commander Cody at the Family Dog Complete Set...seems to ba a download only of five nights at the Family Dog...the tracks that were bonus tracks on the prior two disc set are now full blown complete shows...also it seems to be in Hi Res only...a little over 5 hrs long...will probably grab it next week as I blew my allowance yesterday on the Criterion Collection "Godzilla: The Showa Era Films '54 - '75" Box Set....Also, Hey Dennis!...thanks for the Pokey video...he's always a gas...I especillay love when Chloe Feoranzo joins his band on her clarinet...and speaking of organic tunes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUoIQ1UGDxg

later instigators...

I apologize to the community at large for any political references I made regarding delivery of DaP35.

The mail is being slowed down; Marye herself stated earlier on this thread (8/1) that Oakland hadn't had mail delivery for 2 days...so before contacting her or condemning Rhino/USPS/UPS Mail Innovations, maybe allow an additional 1-2 weeks for delivery? longer? End of FYI. As further apolitical evidence I offer a Last 5.

GD / Related:
1. GD - DaP34 6/23/74 Miami, FL
2. GD - 5/26/77 Baltimore, MD
3. GD - 10/8/89 Hampton, VA (Formerly The Warlocks box)
4. JG - Don't Let Go: 5/21/76 San Francisco, CA
5. Kingfish - In Concert: 4/3/76 NYC, NY

Other:
1. Jason Isbell - Reunions
2. John Cale & Terry Riley - The Church Of Anthrax.....which led to
3. Africa Express w/Damon Albarn & Brian Eno - Terry Riley's 'In C'.....which led to
4. Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting....which led to
5. King Crimson - Red

Approximately 5-6 years ago a fellow poster on a DaP thread highly recommended the 'Africa Express' album. I took them up on their recommendation and was amazed. It's since become a 'desert island' favorite. A hearty 'thank you' to that person.

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I got the email on 29 July. Checked tracking for couple of days said not received yet. Today I checked it's in SLC transferred to usps. They don't have a tracking yet. I'm thinking next Thursday. Be patient
As I'm in the transportation industry I've worked strait through. Between short staffing due to illness, those refusing to come in etc. Things are much slower and tracking can be haphazard. Give it time. Some countries just shut down their deliveries

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