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  • #6591
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    Is that anywhere near Bong Rec? :-P

  • #6592
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    Alpine 84?

    Sounds good to me!

    And I will second Jim's 4/23/69 Ark pick for tomorrow - should be an interesting contrast.

    Since there wasn't yet a pick for today, I loaded up Beacon Theater 6/14/76 from the box, after a morning appetizer of Disc 3 from 4/8/72 Wembley. I got through the first two discs of that one last evening, but HAD to listen to the third before putting it back on the shelf. Favorite Dark Star ever? I dunno, but it is certainly up there! The Beacon Theater show is nice, but it was a little unfair coming right on the heels of that Europe 72 show, as most things are.

    Back to the 80s madness! I've actually been to Alpine - the steepest lawn I've ever been on!

    Peace

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    Funny, I was going to toss out an 84 option since we seem to be on an 80's terror.

    Perhaps we can squeeze in something primal soon and something in the 7 1 through 74 range too.

    As for primal, perhaps later this week?? It's been years since I listened to 4/23/69.

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    What a fun night!

    The Scene:
    We'd gotten home from Alpine and kicked around for a week or so and then headed over to Pittsburgh for our last taste of the Dead for the summer of '87. I guess it was a Monday night, but felt like a party. The only time we stayed in a hotel, and a bunch of our friends from Ohio had the room nextdoor. The rooms had a connecting walk through party door and we walked through it and partied all night long! It was off the hook. I can't remember if that was planned or coincidence, but feel like we didn't know until we got to the room. The hotel was taken over by Dead Heads and a party raged the whole time before and after. There was a Park & Eat diner up the road and we went there in shifts throughout the night, high out of our minds, laughing and shit like we were on a different planet, and we were. All these stoned out hippies flooding the place. We made up all these names for it, the barf & puke, the stop & ralph, we were rolling. I think there was a pool and the balcony circled around the pool.. but yeah it was 33 years ago, and we were all blotto.

    The Music:
    You ever been to a show with a friend and the band plays ALL of their favorites? That was this night for me and my buddy Walling. The place was electric and everybody was ready to party and so was the band. If I remember correctly, which is highly suspect, but mentioned elsewhere, there were guest musician rumors going around that day, so we were taking guesses on who it’d be, I was pretty sure it’d be Dylan, since they’d just played with him. I think that happened, but again the mind can do funny things. The show had that kind of extra excitement. There was magic in the air. And the band was on, Jerry was stomping around and belting it out and it had that ’87 energy of renewal. We’d seen it at Hampton, and felt it at Alpine (somewhat) but couldn’t see it there. So it was GREAT to have it confirmed in Pittsburgh. We had a great view of the happenings and just boogied down all night. If you weren’t hip before, when the Neville Brothers joined the band, everybody knew they were experiencing something special! I had definitely figured it out when Jerry started belting out Whoa’s during Shakedown Street, it was electric. What a fun show. It was my first & only Shakedown, and man it’s still my favorite. The first Knockin’ out of space was pretty epic to witness, by then we had been on such an adventure we just watched in awe, and then they revved up like a deuce with a couple more rockers to send us home or in our case, back to a raging hotel party that continued all night. Throughout, the band played my best friend & traveling partner’s favorite tunes that we didn’t see at Hampton or Alpine. The Shakedown > Samson, Iko > Day-O (he also loved that song, it was cosmically weird) > Women & closing Good Lovin’ & JBG encore, felt like it had been dreamed / willed up by my pal Harvey Wallbanger and we danced our asses off. Good times huh bro?!?!

    33 years later it still gives me the chills looking back on it and remembering

    Never Had Such A Good Time.

    Thanks to BLUECROW & JIMINMD for sharing their tales as well. And thanks to all for listening in with me, this one holds a special place in my heart. The band came to have an electric rock n’ roll party and that’s just what we did.
    EDIT: Ironic that In The Dark was released this day as well, and the band didn't play a single tune off the album, bad ass ;)

    What a band!

    Alright, what’s on tap for today?
    EDIT 2: Alpine Valley 7/7/84 you say...

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1984-07-07.sbd.miller.94379.sbeok.flac16/…
    Alpine Valley 7.7.84. Welcoming Lovelight back into the fold! Let's do this!!!

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    Jim and Bluecrow, thanks for sharing your memories of the Igloo! Really cool. Jim, yes, I do know what you mean, about the changes that occurred after In the Dark. The Dead achieved big time success, which I think was great for them, but of course it changed the scene forever.

    The ultra matrix I pulled up on Relisten was marginal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

    Official releases versus bootlegs. I will say, this site would not exist if it wasn't for the official releases. Professional recordings, mixing and mastering take a ton of time and effort and in most cases sound way better than unofficial releases. If they didn't, Grateful Dead Productions and Rhino would not brother with these releases. I am sure glad they do, it has been tons of fun.
    I have also been surprised how good some of the shows on The archive or Relisten sound. Miller seems to do a fantastic job, however, it is still no guarantee that the recordings themselves were very good.

    Long live the Vault!

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    More a relation to timing, cash flow and where I was in college at the time, but I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. Plus.. I was kind of freaked by the 86 coma, which lead to full throttle 87 and Pittsburgh was less than two hours from where I was living at the time.

    I was there and it was a hoot. I was just beginning to know what the Nevilles were all about.

    What I remember from the whole thing was first that Jerry was looking and sounding better as the year went on. Second.. I was there with a bunch of college buddies and I could not wait long enough to ditch them and spend most of the show alone, just me and my girlfriend at the time. Something about people you don't know that well, that probably aren't that into the dead anyway talking while you are finding your footing is really annoying. So by Row Jimmy we had separated from anything resembling the crowd we arrived with and had achieved lift off.

    I have not listened to this since I was there until today. What a nice road trip and both brings back memories and reminds me how little I still remember. I do remember the Neville's centric second set and the drive back home a good bit.

    Well, that's the best I can recall.

    Oh, this might have been the day or the we ek that In the Dark was released. At first I was ecstatic, later deflated.. it was the beginning of the end of sorts.. We were no longer a small town, under the radar thing. It was so much more fun when were were under the radar.

    Oh.. and Otis.. it was hot as balls here today, and we are usually 10 to 15 degrees cooler than you. Great day on the river though. This working less stuff is a ok with me.

    CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN. Truly the funniest thing I have heard all month. Hilarious, I want one of those stickers!

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    hi everybody!! sorry, its been awhile posting, but i check in all the time on this oasis of friendship and good cheer.
    Pittsburgh 87 was one of only 4 east coast shows i saw (Hampton 88 the other three). I'd seen the Alpine shows, then went fishing with Dad and brother in Canada. just got back day before show. left Chicago area at dawn. for some reason took the scenic route, driving some US highway rather than the interstate. got a speeding ticket as I crossed into Ohio (65 to 55 speed trap) - boo. as i said goodbye to the kind officer i asked him how far to Pittsburgh? he looked at me funny - Pittsburgh??? long long day driving, lots of winding roads i think as i got further east but somehow made it to the arena. back in those days i would get to some confusing unknown city and just follow the cars that looked like they knew where they were going. just now flashed on a bumper sticker i saw wandering the lot that evening unwinding before the show -
    CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN
    yeah, for real
    it was a heart of gold night. mail order ticket, might have been a GA show, but I was in the second level stage left. surrounded by kind strangers. more than a few empty seats in the arena i think. relaxed. really fun first set. remember Desolation Row as big cool surprise.
    and then that SHAKEDOWN - holy shit!!!! Jerry scat singing!! Phil!! craziness!! out of body rush just thinking about it!!
    and then "We ran into some of our friends the Neville Brothers" and its like you have got to be freaking kidding - Iko > Day-o > Women Smarter!! still have a dream vision of the stage during Day-O. yeah it was like a dream! coming out of space the whole place was buzzing with dylan energy, that bob d would join them. close. he was there in spirit. the knockin on heaven's door was one of the most righteous dead moments i ever witnessed. another vision of the stage as it lead to the first verse - unearthly blue/green lighting, the Nevilles, shadowed, slowly joining the boys. tears in my eyes. great good lovin set closer. then johnny b goode. super energy. smiles everywhere.
    at some point during the drive that afternoon i'd wondered what the heck i was doing. i left that show filled with contentment and happiness. of course i'm totally lost when i try to find my way out of town. most traffic long gone. i'm at a stop light, drifting in my own thoughts, when I look to my right and a couple of officers in a patrol car are 5 ft away giving me the real hairy eyeball. seconds from big trouble. I lean over, roll down the window, and ask Hi - which way to Ohio? the expression of the officer at the wheel suddenly goes from doom to Sure, let me help! Ohio? you take a left at this light! I'm like Great!! Thank you!! seconds later light turns green, i turn left, and make my getaway across some bridge. whew. at some early am rest area i remember a fellow traveler asking if I was headed to Roanoke. sigh. the answer was no - heck I didn't even know the next shows were in Roanoke. 10 years later i got to know shannon way out west. and she was from virginia and yeah the roanoke shows were way hot!! as for me, the next shows i saw were Red Rocks
    i'm listening to the Zaleski version on relisten right now - it sounds freaking fantastic, amazing pull, highly recommend!!
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912
    man, '87 was a fun year, with the newly re-energized Jerry. this brings back a lot of sweet memories.
    stay healthy and be safe!!

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    This show might just be the most-listened to show in my listening history. I think it is so much fun, it is near the top of the list of shows I wish i had attended. Enjoy!

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    7/6/87, another fine pick!

    I love that this board has gone more into the archives. I love the official releases, but there are so many gems in the ol' mine that sticking to just the releases exclusively would mean missing out on shows like this.

    Hooking it up to the stereo, hitting play, and spending as much of the day in the AC as possible. It is brutal around these parts... but a good book and a good show make it bearable. I hope everyone had a great July 4th weekend!

    Peace

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 08:36

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Fun show for sure, nice representation of a solid ’84 show.
Whenever I hear a good ’84 show, I always think, hmm wonder what the rest of that tour was like.
I guess that’s the magic that kept the Dead on the road for so long.

Great Set 1 with real nice Bird Song, and like many have commented a top Jack Straw, best of the ‘80s? best after hiatus? However you want to quantify it, it get’s a lot of best talk.

The Shakedown > Samson got the 30 Days treatment in 2017.
A relative newly dusted off Smokestack Lightning with a real sweet jam after, short drums > space (is there a reel flip in here I’m missing, might have to research). Great post Drums set list Wheel > TOO > Black Peter > Lovelight. And last of 2 Revolutions for the year. First Black Peter into Lovelight? First of the infamous Amy Boards.

It was a nice return from my 1970 wormhole that I entered on 7/24 with the 9/20/70 show, went deep on that one, even ventured into the land of the PERRO session tapes, fun trip. Completely enjoyable and fascinating.

Nice Pick!

You all getting shipping notices?

What’s next?

10/21/83 you say..

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 09:46

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Yes, the 83 30 Trips show, let's do it.
I remember this being a good show.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 13:24

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Well, I've heard it said there's something wrong in my head, now.

And the doctors can't seem to figure it out. Been on the shelf for a couple months with an odd malady - more or less constant dizzy, spacey feeling, which family and friends quickly pointed out seems par for the course for me (yeah, love you guys, too).

It feels kind of like I've had a couple of pretty strong mai tais. Not the worst feeling in the world, and I get the "buzz" without having to spend money on libations! Or a round trip ticket to Hawaii.

But, I've had to be horizontal a good bit of the time, can't really exercise, drive, etc. The best way to explain it is that I've been living inside of a 2 month long Dark Star>Seastones>Drums>Space>Feedback. With a Samba encore - Yikes!

Anyway, things have improved over the last several days, and I'm gradually returning to civilized society, although that seems to be slipping away lately out here on the west coast.

So, I'm only five dozen shows behind the rest of you. I should be able to catch up by the end of the weekend! And I nominate 9/19/2003 for a listen one of these days - a terrific post-GD show.

Cheers and good health to all.

Edit: Man, I really have been out of the loop for a bit. Neon Nikes - really??

Good to see you back in the mix Bolo. Man, good to hear things are getting better. A little Black Peter?

We will have to cut you some major slack on the past picks.

2003? You will have to help us out with that pick.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 18:42

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Or perhaps Mexicali Blues.

I think what Bolo was trying to say is Dave's Picks 36 is 04/16/78 Huntington Civic Center - Huntington, WV.

It was the Peggy-O reference that made me think of this show, and then when you see the first set ends in Scarlet>Fire. ..well, oh.. and get better Bolo from whatever ales you. Great to see you back, be good get or stay healthy.

Edit: Or it could be I am full of shit and think we are due for a '78. Either way, it's a win.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2020 - 22:50

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A Classic. And so it is.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 03:32

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Bolo - it can be a bit restricting, having dizzy spells. I acquired them-with attendant feelings of nausea about 5 years ago. No one was quite sure why-possibilities included a reaction to prescription drugs, having low blood pressure and an imbalance in my ears. Nothing was decided, so I just carry on as I am. I find I am alright if I don't look down. So I don't.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 07:00

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Hey Bolo, glad you're feeling better and that doesn't sound fun.
And in regards to the west coast, You know the nearer your destination, The more you're slip slidin' away.

Hot tip on the 9/19/03 show... anybody got the SBD of this one out there?

It looks like that whole Dead tour was released on some limited edition Summer Getaway CDs, so I thought'd I'd check.

I've never listened to the Joan Osborne stuff, this show is sounding pretty dope and so naturally.. the SBD came to mind :) Some things never change in regard to collecting music.

Dug the 1983 yesterday and looks like some early 1973 for today, don't mind if I do.
Shipping notice received over here.
The Beach Boys mighta said and we'll have fun fun fun...

Be well all.. lmk about that 9/19/03 show if somebody got's it.

Oh! She's singing on Rueben & Cherise, gotta go bye.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 10:37

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I might just have them.. I need to look. I recall having a lot, perhaps of 2003 and none from 2004.. not sure why I gave up after 2003???

I will look tonight.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 10:43

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Thanks Jim!

I found a bunch of the others, but not 9/19/03.

It's cool stuff!

LMK if you're looking for anything and if I have it I'm happy to work up a lil trade.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 11:03

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All that is coming in the mail. (hopefully today)

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 12:07

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I like the way you work it.

Your guys partnership is pretty cool, nice job fellas.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 18:16

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I'm afraid today's website glitches were probably my fault. As part of a rather complex NDA with my "employer," I am required to give them advance notice before I post on any website. In my compromised state of mind, I forgot to do so. I'd explain, but it's complicated. And dangerous.

In the unlikely event that anyone did a screen capture of my previous post, I strongly urge you to reboot your computer, change the locks on your door and stay away from the windows.

Also, I have the SBD of 9/19/2003 (WAV format) if you need it. Not sure how I would send that digitally - pretty big file.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 18:57

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....HCS -> Jam -> Bobby McGee. Yeah. I member that.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 19:56

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Great sound.. It's been a while since I listened to this show. Makes me think we have much more 1973 coming our way the next few years.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/29/2020 - 21:51

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Thanks for joining me on these one Jim, GOGD, Vguy and hopefully the rest of you. Gollum, you should be a fan of this show. Oroborous, I know you love this one.

This release really changed my view of releases. This is by far the most played Dave's Picks for me. Not saying it is the best ever, just the most played. Sound quality is A++. There are zero flaws in the entire release.
The Deal just kills it, so far my favorite China-Rider. The transition is unreal and I have not heard anything come close. Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Box of Rain! So many highlights. Love the HCS. Why did they retire this song and when did they retire it? Love the WRS prelude into eyes. Did that ever happen again? And such a great finish.

Yes, Jim, I sure hope we get more 73. Dave's 16 is killer, Scooby Doo, and Dave's 32 at the Spectrum is so good. Love the variety. That He's Gone, Truckin, into the Jam- Dark Star into Sing me back home is super special!

So let's hope they have more 73 in the Vault. So many good shows.

Be well and let me know where we are going next.

No shipping notice here in MN, but that is
no surprise. I am usually 1 week behind.

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Submitted by Gollum on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 00:32

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Yes, I surely do love 4/2/73 Deadvikes. I'm trying to keep up with the daily picks but have been dragging ass a bit this week. I'm still knee deep in Sunday's pick 2/11/70! I always avoided 2/11 because of the special guests. I guess I'm wary of outsiders. That's silly, of course, and it's just a great show. The whole Star-Spanish-Lovelight jam is sweet and meaty like a butt steak.

The three Spring 73 Dave's Picks are among my very favorites, too! I'd love it if we got some more 73 DaP's- maybe 8/1/73 or 9/11/73? I think those Dark Stars might be underrated because of sound quality (I dunno?).

I'm enjoying y'alls comments. Some day I'll catch up with you guys...

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Sent you a PM

Thanks Bolo!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 08:27

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Sure do Love Spring '73

4/2/73 is solid top to bottom without a doubt. Really like when Phil still sung on Half-Step, even (especially?) when his voice is cracking (12/19/73 comes to mind as the standard to measure against), just ain't the same without that little bit of wonderful. Great great stuff here people. No complaints at all. Wave That Flag stuck out as it had me bobbin' along. And the Jam in Eyes that Jerry gets into at 14 minutes is the stuff I keep coming back for again and again and again.

No secret that PITB is an absolute favorite, possibly my #1 favorite, but def in the top 5. This one is great per usual.
But I had a flash yesterday on it's life cycle.

So you know how Dark Star had it's most epic versions from 1969-1970, IMO of course, I mean it's always great, but 1969-1970 those Stars are just universes of greatness, peak versions shall we say. It stays in the rotation, and is played great, but they're not 1969-1970 Stars. I'd say this is when Jerome was most excited about it, which makes all the difference to me.

Playing In The Band seems to have a similar life cycle in that regard and it's peak is arguably 1972-1973, again it stays in the rotation, and is played great, but they're not 1972-73 Playings (sp?). Anyhooo.. just wanted to say that cause that's what I was thinking about as I drifted through yet another magnificent PITB from '73.

Plus the coffee's kicking in and I don't really want to do the other stuff I should do today, so yeah I'm procrastinating.

And if you made it this far, congrats! You are a trouper.

That 2003 The Dead stuff was ringing my bell yesterday, those set lists had me at Born Cross-Eyed, another top 5 song for me.

What's on the haps for today?

PS - I probably wouldn't click on the RAW RAGE link below, that sounds a bit sketchy..
Spammers does anybody really go for that?

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 09:38

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Interesting that people gravitate towards 4-2-73. I think the three Dave's picks from spring '73 are a really nice triad. Between them you have pretty much everything they were playing at the time.

You've got 3-28-73, Dave's Picks 16, affectionately known around these parts as Scooby Doo House. Recorded by Kidd, opening with a Cumberland -> Here Comes Sunshine, all the expected 1st set goodies, and a 43-minute Dark Star into Eyes deep in the second set. This recording doesn't sound as warm to me as Dave's Picks 21 - 4-2-73 at the Garden.

On this one Rex Jackson gets the credit for recording. Which is interesting since she and Betty were more or less a team during this period weren't they? maybe this accounts for the slightly warmer sound, which is generally attributed to Betty's recordings. This show has a great 1st set China-Rider and a fantastic 17 minute Playing in the Band to close out the 1st set. Set two has a nice slinky Mississippi, and the aforementioned Sunshine -> Jam -> Bobby McGee is unique as far as i know. The jam is a little dissonant for my tastes but no biggie. I believe this is the Eyes where garcia sings "There follows his wagon behind him thats loaded with kale".

Then comes my favorite of the bunch, Dave's 32. Both Rex and Kidd get the recording credit on this one, and it seems to me to fit right in between the previous two shows sonically. most of the 1st set is typical, but still very well played and the set has a great flow to it. I really dig the chorus like effect that Bobby was using on this tour - notably on Looks Like Rain. This show just seems to go on and on and the 3rd disc is special: He's Gone -> into a nearly 40 minute Truckin-> Dark Star (sans vocals) and then a Sing Me Back Home.

Just a fantastic show. The only thing this triptych is missing is a big Other One, which hopefully we'l lget soon in another Spring '73 release. This is my absolute favorite time for the band. Pig is gone, but i think that freed them up in a sense, and you can hear it in the playing, which is adventurous. And they have a ton of new material to learn and hone. I get it that some of the 1st sets are repetitive, but I usually just hone in on Bobby or Phil, who are always playing something unexpected. Bring on more '73. I'd love some more fall shows too, which might be a bit more complicated to release becasue of the guest horn players.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/30/2020 - 15:30

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Well put slow dog. They are all great shows.. 4/2 has a little pixie dust mixed in with the mix, so it probably gets a little extra hype for that.

With the number of unreleased '74 shows just beginning to thin out.. 73 is going to come into the foreground eventually. I bet we get a good dose of 73 over the next year.. year and a half.

Anyone get Philly yet?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 05:53

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No, in fact still no shipping notice for me.

Who has a pick for us today?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 08:57

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Just an idea...

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 09:06

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Started 4-2-73 this morning driving into work.
Sounded mighty fine.
Sound quality of releases just keeps getting better. Time to Plangentize/Normanize 12-18-73.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/31/2020 - 16:53

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Sounds like a great idea Jim, I have been gone all day. Just catching up. Capitol Center! Let's do it.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 09:01

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I've never understood why this Dark Star never gets any love. I remember in my tape trading days thinking that it ranked alongside 6/10 as the peak 73 Dark Stars. My old tape had crummy sound. I haven't heard the upgraded archive versions yet.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 09:39

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It's an absolute killer of a Dark Star! Dave & Co, when you gonna release 8/1/73, 2/9/73 and 5/26/73, I aint getting any younger.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 08/01/2020 - 10:06

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8/1/73 sounds good to me.

What a guy, Hey Garcia!

Man these folks at Dead.net, JerryGarcia.com, etc... have been busy during this pandemic, can barely keep up and that's all I'm doing. Totally Hardcore.

Releases, Shakedown Streams, Studio Outtakes, Dead Casts, Birthday Parties, Holy Shit!
I'm impressed.

Enjoy the Day you all, looking forward to some epic Dark Star action.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 08/02/2020 - 19:00

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Well audience tape only on Archive...... I wonder if a Board is in the Vault.... Starting with the Playing right now in second set.... don't think I will be awake for whole show... be good all.... bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 07:58

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Let's keep the train rolling along.
I am going to check out 11/28/80 from the 30 Trips release. Sending out the 1980 vibe in the dimming hopes of a 1980 box.

Loved the 3/14/90 revisit. Always have room for a Spring 1990 release. Black Peter!

Be well folks and everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 13:18

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Ha.. listened to this 2 or 3 days ago (the day we did Worcester '83), so it should count.. ??.

Great little show.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 14:30

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Jim, funny, for sure it counts. And it is a short show, finished it off before lunch. Really laid back show. Only 18 songs. Really like the Passenger, Deep Elem, LLR is good and the Deal is hot. To Lay Me Down is excellent, very well played and the Terrapin into Drums is well played. Black Peter! Sugar Mag US Blues closer.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 16:10

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Well, this fall is the 40th anniversary, and we did get Warfield Acoustic last year which caused a lot of speculation about a Fall ‘80 Box.

Sign me up!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 18:53

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Conekid, yes, that has always been the hope for me after they started releasing the big box sets like E72, and the two Spring 1990 box sets, I thought it was only a matter of time. Here we are the 40th anniversary!

I know Glasser did not work on the June 76 Box, so I am hoping he was busy on something else??

And I have heard all the rumors, the tapes don't exist, they recorded over them after they released Dead Set and Reckoning, or For the Faithful. I think I still have my For the Faithful LP.
Anyway, I don't think that is true. Three reasons. They rereleased Dead Ahead with new bonus songs in the 2000s and expanded Dead Set and Reckoning in 2004 or 2007, can't remember the exact year, with all new bonus material from the run. So, there has to be something there.

Somebody knows around here.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/03/2020 - 19:35

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I have had him pretty occupied doing roofing repairs on my house. But it's going to rain the next several days, so he should be back in the studio cranking out 1980 gems as far as I'm concerned!

It does seem odd, the 1980 dilemma. I guess it's mostly true, but man.. they didn't even keep the single reel masters? Something must left worth releasing in the tool shed.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 03:46

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That appeared out of nowhere, so hopefully some SBD reels were in the ABCD stash.

Yeah, the reels weren’t in the vault because they were in the storage shed.
Fingers crossed.....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 05:51

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Conekid, that would be cool. From the lists I have read, I am not sure they received anything more the acoustic sets from October 9 and 10.
Jim, you mention I guess it is mostly true. Can you elaborate on that?

Who has a pick for today?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:10

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Hi-Ya, chiming in on the 1980 stuff, in 2012 DL said the following:

“Recorded every show from Warfield & Radio City Music Hall to Multitrack. Unfortunately a lot of that was erased in the early 80s. Nonetheless there’s material there.”

A number of the Acoustic sets were part of the Betty Boards that were returned, I'm assuming those were two-track mixes though and not multi-track.

Not sure if there's any info about the wiping of the original tapes. If anybody has info on that story let me know.

In other news, looks like new DaP V35 might be arriving soon... fingers x'd.

And lastly 5/29 & 5/30/71 look kinda cool...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:21

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Those were general comments.. I have no facts to back them up. I just can't believe this there is nothing left on the shelves from those tours.

Lemieux.. if you listening, check in that unlabeled banana box in the back of the room with the Blues for Allah painting. We think you missed some reels.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 08:42

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Sounds like a winner to me. Cal Expo.

I am in the camp of hope for 1980. Time will tell.
Thanks for the information guys, this is better than the alternative.

GOGD, did you have a link for Dave's comments?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/04/2020 - 09:04

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To bad they erased those tapes, I'm happy to hear that some survived. I'm. happy they released the 10/9/80 and 10/10/80 acoustic sets, I was at both those shows , so that might mean they still have the electric sets for those shows. Both those shows were killer shows,electric and acoustic , so hopefully the electric sets will we the light of day and be.released.

BTK: Yeah, so I think based on Dave's comments that some of the multi-track stuff still exists, some of it got wiped. And then there's also Betty's 2 Track mixes that exist, I think those are mostly acoustic sets, at least based on what circulates.
I'm tempted to go through both runs and gather my notes on what SBDs are in circulation and which aren't, but I'm thinking that's a pretty good representation of what exists and what doesn't in the vault.

DeadVikes: Yeah, here's a link to Dave talking about this on January 17th 2012 @ 33:48ish - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19834305

It's a good watch and pretty informative. I stumbled on it looking into the 1970 tapes in the Vault, and it did answer my question on that as well.

Unfortunately, he states that there are virtually no shows in the Vault from July 16 through December 1970, largely because of Owsley getting busted. I guess the Dead themselves were not running tape at all during this time. Might be old news for some, but I wanted to confirm it with my own ears.

Clever Deadhead and Photographer Bob Minkin also gave us a clue to this on Page 221 of his book Live Dead with a picture of the 1970 reels in the Vault, in the picture there's a huge gap of reels between 7/16/70 - 12/27/70 :(

Dang it.

The above totally coincides with the tapes that circulate, mostly what exists in circulation from that time frame are either Fillmore East Crew SBDs (partials), FM Broadcasts, or Audience recordings.

So, mystery solved? I'd still like a nice list of what's there and not, but yeah that might be my OCD.

Since we're all getting older here, I think some time should be put towards figuring out what else exists from the Festival Express and to try and get that stuff and get it out there. I know there's more of that than what circulates.

Unfortunately, I don't see any 1970 acoustic set stuff happening for American Beauty 50th, because it doesn't sound like it exists. Happy to be wrong.

Alright, well there you have it, and that's the way it is Tuesday August 4, Two Thousand and Twenty, I'll be away on assignment and Dan Rather will be sitting in here for the next few years.