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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • proudfoot
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    all I am saying, is give GD87 a chance. _two_ shows!

    giving us 87 means new explorations, perspectives, viewpoints, new space, etc. No, it ain't 12/18/73, or Europe 72, or some monster 69. But...I still love Daves 35, and will continue to subscribe until I literally join the dead, or the series ends.

    Dave
    I'm only tripping
    it turns me on

  • Oroborous
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    DHBrewer & Format

    DHB, always love to hear your thoughts!
    Dennis, always love how you crack me up!
    Format: as others have theorized, perhaps they want to spoon out “the good stuff” (not my words) thus mixing it up and keeping enough of those “nuggets” to keep it interesting.
    Also, perhaps not enough 60s; variety, good sources etc, to do one every year, but agree we could use more.
    Obviously not everyone is always gonna be happy, but I’d love to see say alternate 60 or post Brent 90, with 2 70s, and a 80 release every year. Think that would be fair, cover most sweet spots, cover the ABCD costs etc,and yeah, sometimes ya might get one your not thrilled about. Fir that see previous post...

  • Dennis
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    Eras & 37

    I like all the eras, they all have their charm. A great performance is a great performance whenever the time. Someone here once said if you stop at 71, then you don't get a long list of GREAT standards,,, can you imagine no Eyes!!! Early stuff,,, can you beat a great Viola? Of course not. Luckily we got Dew for a long time.

    I like the 4 times a year surprise of the picks, on the monetary front you either have the money to spend or don't. Two positives in this modern world, copies always available somewhere and it seems the bonus disc always sells for the price of the subscription on the aftermarket (for good or ill I agree). Past that thank the band members that made the music possible and allow it to be up on the archive, something every can afford :-)

    Now on this 37 front,,, my selfish pick, 1975-06-17 - Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA . No wasn't my first show, never been to Winterland, but it will the last 75 show not to be released! I want to cross 75 off the need list!! Come on Dave,,, do it for Dennie.

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    Yes.. 36 was announced with a picture of the cover art via email as follows:

    Hard to believe but we've come upon the very last release in our 2020 Dave's Picks Series. DAVE’S PICKS VOL.36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) will be up for pre-order on Thursday, October 15th at 10am PT. Set that alarm and don't hit snooze!

    DHBrewer.. would love to hear your rant.. I get the feeling it would crack me up.

    Also, for what it's worth, I quite liked the recent 83 and 84 Dave's Picks. They might not get the quite the speaker time as my other children.. but sometimes you need some high-octane workout music. Palate cleanser for the more delicate intricacies of my favorite acid jazz 74 shows. 35 must have come at just the right time as it probably has four or five partial listens and I enjoyed the hell out of them all.

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    Has this been officially announced?

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    My non-posted post was rated PM (private message) for snarkiness

    I typed a post this morning, but cannot bring myself to post it; please PM me if for some reason you think you want to read it! :)

    The gist of it is that 26 of 40 shows from 1974 have been released, even if just partially. So have 36 of 82 from 1972 and 32 of 60 from 1977. My notes from 1984 and 1987 say that I have enjoyed the two and five shows, respectively, that have been released from those years, which were still part of the Garcia era.

    The other point from my post, made also by Oro, is that we can all keep supporting this fun trip, or we can withhold the meager monies requested of us, and then we can stop getting shows, including all the free November music and the free Tapers' Section music, and the Free GD Hour . . .

    Confession time--I could not care less about the shows from late 1969 through Keith's first show. But when those shows are released (and there have been many), I smile and feel Grateful that people who love that era are getting some kind dessert.

    Be kind, rewind.

    p.s. If Dave wants to indulge himself a bit after all these years and all this work by releasing his first show, then bless him. And we may be getting a whole new distribution model after this release, no? Dave ends the Dave's Picks series by releasing a cool show that got him on the bus? I'm willing to bet that whatever he and Rhino do will enhance my musical life.

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    That makes two Ron Francis references in this thread in the last 24 hours. :)

    Glad to see another northern team in the league and Seattle deserves a franchise. Now they just need to contract Phoenix, Nashville, Carolina, Dallas and the Panthers to get the level of talent more concentrated. One of those can move to Quebec I suppose.

    Good discussion about the releases. Oroborous said it well.

    More Maple Leafs jokes please!!

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    Oroborous is right

    I agree with Oroborous’ sentiments on these releases. For me, I miss the days of attending concerts (and Covid aside), actual LIVE music, the crowds, the atmosphere, and far more than just the Dead, but ALL the great music. Before scalpers were bots, and best seats could be had by lining up in rain, or heat, cold and damp, with friends who added to the experience and laughs, and those great tickets could be bought for a fraction of today’s prices. (Neil Young & Crazy Horse on the original Rust Never Sleeps tour from great seats, for pocket money, or The Band on their final tour, to name just two) Now, so many of the performers I flocked to see in my youth just don’t tour anymore, or if they do, you are buying bleacher tickets at prime prices, if you are lucky. Planning to go with the gang? Good luck getting seats together now. So these Dave’s releases represent to me some of that early concert fun. Yes, some lesser, some way better, but that, too, is part of the joy. And two shows in one release sounds like a sound bargain. Just my two cents.
    And for folks in the Seattle area, I urge you to embrace the new Kraken franchise - you will love the game as I have for 60 years+, and since the franchise hired Ron Francis, a legend as a player and a gentleman as a person, you are in great hands. (Ron was a long time Hartford Whaler, when they were in the NHL, and I am positive this was why Dave Kloc put the whales on the cover of DaP 36, from Hartford). Chances are, the team will be a powerhouse quickly, along the lines of Las Vegas in 2-3 years, and as a guy that has followed the sad sack Toronto Maple Leafs as long as I have, that means something.
    So, in summary, enjoy these releases, they never fail to entertain me, because nothing beats “live” music, and Grateful Dead “Live” music is as good as it gets. And Seattle, enjoy the Kraken, you won’t be disappointed.

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    Off topic?

    A post- Hornsby '90s show would make a pleasant change.

  • Oroborous
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    30 Years!

    That’s how many years the Dead performed, not 5!
    So I like any show, from any year, as long as it’s a great show and it sounds at least decent.
    I have good equipment and after listening to shitty tapes for decades, I’m able to sit back, entrain and enjoy.
    Meaning I’ve never received a release that was so bad I couldn’t stand it. I cherish each and every release, even from years that aren’t my favorite. Do I play them as much as others, of course not, but that does not diminish my gratitude that we’ve been blessed with so many shows, especially this century! I mean come on, if you think about it it’s amazing how many releases there are, and only so far! So of course with so many different folks from very diverse spaces not everyone is going to like everything, sorry but that’s called life.
    But that’s just my personal take, I totally understand some folks fervent attachment to certain years/eras, hell I love 85 for fugs sake, certainly not a majority opinion, lol, so I get it.
    But Mr Heartbreaks second post is very valid. To me, vested discourse has always been one of the most fun parts of being a DH. Man the civil arguments we used to have in the car on the long road between or after shows was epic, and hugely entertaining, especially if some one was out in left field versus the consensus. It always amazed me that 3 or 4 or 7 people that went to the same show could have such different takes on what we all just experienced. Of course experience was always a big part of how we obtained our opinions...
    Perhaps the most well known example is the dude in the dead movie out in the lobby!

    My only criticism is not dissenting opinions, or what you say, it’s how you say it!
    Sometimes we, and I mean many of us, can knee jerk react and be a bit cantankerous. Often the individual cools down and realizes and even apologizes, that’s what makes this place so special....civil discourse, something severely lacking in the world today!
    So just because someone doesn’t like something doesn’t mean the majority should slag them, as long as they do so respectfully and intelligently.
    I also agree that this place can be a little too “the emperor has new clothes” like in its ability to eat anything. Shit the band used to joke about how overly excepting we were! So I can understand MR HBs opinion on that too.

    Finally, again only a personal opinion, but it is so easy to sell these that if I was in the camp that’s only into specific stuff, I would still subscribe because:
    1) you get the bonus disc!
    2) since you paid for it you might as well rip it to the collection and then,
    3) you can sell one or 2 and pretty much pay for the whole subscription!
    That also has the added benefit of providing copies for Johnny come latelys or folks who missed out some how.
    In other words,
    4) if we don’t support this iT WILL GO AWAY! Like it or not this a business and if we dont buy, they won’t sell!
    Harsh, sad but true, but the bottom line rules...

    Eventually, once most, but not all, sit down, fire up and listen, I think most folks will find these interesting, enjoyable, well played shows, even if there are no 30 minute Dark Stars etc...
    Would I of preferred 12/18/73, you bet ya, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to really dig these shows!
    Just a thought....onward through the fog!

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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....to keep me alive via the mail.
Taps head.
The fact that this virus is a political stance to begin with is pathetic. Fuck.
Look up the postmaster generals wiki. There you go.
This matters because we want our Daves.

You are of course entitled to your opinion. Believe the union president or take in the news and see what's happening. I don't work for the usps but interact with them daily. They are doing a damn good job all things considered.
I don't mean to start a fight but I felt the need to stand up for people doing a hard job under very difficult circumstances.

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....we've disagreed before. But I agree that there are factors that we cannot control. That needs to change.
Difficult circumstances....

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I'm not denigrating the USPS...they're just doing as instructed. I have much respect for them and think the Postal Service is still one of the best, if not the best in the world.

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I think the biggest hold up is the mail innovation. They seem to send out "sent" notices when the word is given to ups. They then have to label and mail. I think they hold everything until the truck going somewhere is filled. You in the backwater, 400 packages a week, may take a week to fill. NYC, maybe trucks going everyday. Also UPS don't work no weekends. Mine got to UPS local Friday, but USPS won't see till Monday, Post Office will have it here next day!

Just for a chuckle, order new slippers from New Zealand got here in 1 week.

Bob had a line that spoke of his time there I believe....

The only decent thing I did when I worked as a postal clerk
Was to haul your picture down off the wall near the cage where I used to work

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When I ordered the Comander Cody release from Bear's Sonic Journals,back in July, I received that in a week at the most. They get their stuff out real fast. I believe Im going to adopt one of their reels. I have had nothing but great service from them, and always a great product.

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Listened to 8/2/69 while I cleaned up my garage today...enjoyable show, great sound quality, excellent suggestion.

It was more enjoyable getting stitched up in the ER this morning..

Then reading some of the political banter here. Glad you enjoy it. I'd rather gargle with cheap tequila mixed with broken glass. To most of us its a buzzkill.

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so it used to be somewhere in Tenn was where this journey would start...from there to Ohio to Phoenix to Flagstaff and then to me...for the first time ever it started in Carlsbad, CA and went to Salt Lake City...why it didn't go from Carlsbad directly to Phoenix I have no idea...this in itself will add two, maybe three days to getting it still...oh well...

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I do a lot of business with ebay and amazon. I think the issue is with the seller. All the services mark it shipped when the seller notifies them they printed a lable. Ebay sellers are usually very good. But some are doozies. One guy marked an item as shipped then didn't give it to the po for 3 weeks. With all these delivery companies business is way up ( yes the most definitely jobs to be had) but for obvious reasons already mentioned they're having a tough time making goals
One other thing we all need to look in the mirror. We are so used to instant gratification we get freaked out if we don't have it now. That includes me.

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Last 5, I think.....

Stay Sick - The Cramps -"keep the rewards, I'd just as soon stay sick"-fine advice.
Baggy Rehearsals CD 1 and 2 - Jimi Hendrix
Magick Brother Mystic Sister - Daevid Allen and Gilli Smyth
Spice Doubt - Ozric Tentacles -vey aromatic, this one.
and last but not least
Complete Recordings 1929-1934 CDs 1 and 2 - Charley Patton - a few snap crackles and pops on these-but if you can tune in you get transported to another world. Amazing.

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Wooh! Checked the UPS tracking site this AM and i finally see updated location info for my #9274... should get to me in a couple days. That is a big refreshing SIGh of relief

very good show, great guests, always liked David Laflamme's violin 🎻 Great sb on archive, pick of the day?
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Montrose
Jade Warrior 1st & 2nd
David Bowie Aladdin Sane
Tangerine Dream In Search of Hades "Oedipus Tyrannus"
Randy California and Ed Cassidy Potatoland

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Like others my DAP has been sitting in Fontana, CA since the day it shipped last week. Same thing happened with WMD 50th, ended up taking 10 days to get to me.

Just for reference I ordered GarciaLIve 14, and I think I got it in 3 days. Don’t think it is USPS, probably Warner cutting costs.

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Thanks Billy for bringing up the Ventura Anniversary dates....always had a blast...the '82 shows allowed camping in the parking lot and it was a wild scene as can be imagined...we had friends who had rooms at the nearby Holiday Inn which we made our base to shower etc...after that the folks I would go with camped at McGrath State Beach down the road in Oxnard...we had reserved campsites for five spots in '86 when the news broke about Jerry's illness...since we had folks from all over the country driving/flying in we decided just to go and invade the campground anyway...we drove in and set up on Thursday the 11th and stayed through Monday the 14th...Lots of others had the same idea so the campground rocked all weekend...one funny moment occured when I was walking with some of the Ladies to one of the restroom/shower areas and an elderly woman stopped me and asked very politely "Excuse me Sir but i can't help but notice there are a lot of you folks here wearing the same kind of T-shirts...are you some sort of club?" I told her "Yes Ma'am...we're a musical appreciation society gathered for the weekend"...she put her hand on my forearm and said "Oh how nice"...great great moment...Musically 7-18-82 had a great shimmering "Crazy Fingers" that I will never forget....

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My attempt at tracking gives this message

‘UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information.’

As I said yesterday any time in August will be great. At least my previous DaP’s have eventually arrived which isn’t the case for everyone. Of course, dead.net have us all over a barrel since they are the only source of the music.

To be fair, my Garcialive #14 was shipped on 17th July and tracking did nothing until 25th and 26th. Since then it has gone quiet. I expect it will turn up eventually.

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4/20/84 should arrive this week...maybe even today.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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Ventura was a blast, it was a non stop party. The Dead played alot of cool places in the 1980s , Ventura , Frost, Greek , Warfield, and the Marin Civic Center. I bet they played a lot of nice places back East, I never went further east than Nevada to see the Dead.

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I don't know where my Dave's 35 is, but I got PLENTY of things to listen to(too many if you ask my wife!!)
I don't see a second box set this year(but maybe American Beauty will fit the(duck) bill.

Last 5:
Judy Henske & Jerry Yester-Farewell Aldebaran
Willie Nelson-Shotgun Willie(So Good!!)
Joe Beck & David Sanborn-Beck & Sanborn(CTI Label)
Bill Frisell/Jim Hall-Hemispheres
Mighty Baby-Day Of The Soup

Not gonna let anyone take my joy away.

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Anyone know anyone who won the Jerry Sandals on Saturday?

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My tracking info for both Dave's Picks 35 & GarciaLive 14 is identical to yours.

For Dave's Picks 35 UPS reports: "UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information."

And for GarciaLive #14 it was shipped on 17th July and tracking subsequently showed some action on 25th, then 26th when it departed the processing center.

I guess there is nothing to be done but tough it out.

Has anybody actually said that the anniversary of American Beauty will be coming out this year? In a way, it would make sense to hold it back until next year.
I assumed that 3/1/69 would be coming out on vinyl for RSD this year on the strength of 2/27 and 2/28 coming out the previous two years. Completely wrong. Unfortunately. But its not always easy to second guess what will happen next on the strength of what has happened in the past.

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Maybe they are waiting for 2/28/69 to sellout , before they put out 3/1/69. I would think that American Beauty would come out in Oct since its original release date was in November, but you are going to have a Dave's Pick come out in Oct, so who knows.

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Less than 2 hours after I checked the status of my Dave's Picks 35 order and UPS couldn't locate the shipment details, the order has been processed and is on it's way to a UPS facility. Moving real slow, but moving...

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0.0--The exact equivalent of my productivity this week. How does Boss Wormer expect me to telework this week with hockey on TV...all...damn...day?!?

Can they see my beer bottle and weed on this Zoom call? Did I just say that out loud?

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One of the benefits of living a stones-throw from Salt Lake City....

DP35 # 20002 / 22000 arrived safe and sound

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I for one am looking forward to a good sounding and hot 80's show. Nice change of pace.

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It says mine was in Carlsbad on Friday. I wished they had called me, I could have picked it up. But it's gone now.

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My copy just arrived in Bensenville, I reckon by covered wagon. For all I know its somewheres betwixt Springfield and Shelbyville.

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I encourage everyone to say whatever they want regardless of topic and express themselves freely. I enjoy all of you, even when you get a little salty. Our little forum here is a microcosm of society at large, even if it's usually a bit more pleasant than that.

The crux of the biscuit is the music of the Grateful Dead, and Jerry Garcia. But read an interview with Garcia or any of the guys in the band; it always ends up being a free-from improvisation that goes anywhere and everywhere, just like their music.

I see no reason why this forum should be any more controlled, restricted or censored than the actual source. Of course, deliberately being hurtful or hateful cannot be encouraged, but IMO all else is fair game.

Be well everyone.

\m/

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....Vegas Golden Knights won today 5-3. Twas a fair game.
I wish the MLB all the best, but they are screwing it up.

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Back and forth politics? Anywhere but here. It never ends well. Take it to facebook or send PMs. You can say what you want here and no one is going to censor you for the most part.. but it's deflating to read political points and counter points haplessly snuck into a Dave's Picks thread. It's too far off topic and it turns most people off. It's the written, posted form of Brown Acid. Write it down, keep a journal.. save it up.. and bring it to your next Thanksgiving dinner with the in-laws after a few bottles of wine where it belongs.

Any other topic less human sex trafficking and serial murders is welcome.

Tell me again why political banter belongs here and why we all come here to read about your political views?

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Square peg, round hole.

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I don't mind what people post on here. If I don't like the look of something, I just whizz past it. I can't ever remember being angry or annoyed about anything anyone's posted on here. Apart from when one poster is intentionally rude towards another. But I have probably been guilty of that myself in the past.

I wonder if lockdown has impacted on the type and range of subjects put forward for discussion. Certainly, my opportunities for talking to people face to face have reduced drastically over the last 4 months. Being single and having no family in the country ( as well as being an awkward bastard) it might well be next Sunday when I next speak to someone. So what I might once have said face to face might now spill out to an unexpected person- the postman for example- or on a forum not designed for that topic. Maybe we should all give each other a bit of leeway-at all times-but never more so than now.

USPS has been notified by UPS that UPS has a package with my name on it that they need to hand off to USPS.
Waiting for the hand off......

UPS, just call an audible and bring it directly to me. I know you are capable, your brown trucks come down my street everyday and my dog barks at them.

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Haha. My dog used to bark at the ups guy all the time. Then I started giving him a treat every time. He started spinning in circles at the front door

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