Dave’s Picks Volume 35: Philadelphia Civic Center, Philadelphia, PA 4/20/84

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July 16, 2020 - 9:34am

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clayv

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 27, 2020 - 5:00pm

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Charlie3

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Accident Park

Right on, a blast from the past. I grew up across the border from Vernon, NJ in a then rural area of Orange County, NY and went to Accident Park when it was just the Alpine Slide, and maybe a couple of times later. Injuries abounded there, from the minor to the life alteringly tragic. Take a look at the water slide loop that these yahoos came up with, the Cannonball Loop, no engineering or water-ride experience appear to be involved, just the back of a napkin and an idea of what a loop looks like.

Love the fun random connections that come up on these threads.
July 27, 2020 - 4:43pm

#1582

Sixtus_

Joined:
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re: Reads

....I've started, over the waning weeks of the 'Summer of Sixtus'**, the newly released read: "Action Park - Fast Times, Wild Rides, and the Untold Story of America's Most Dangerous Amusement Park", which is a MAJOR callback to my youth (yooot!) in the late '70's and early/mid-80's when spending time in NJ and at 'The Shore' - which always did its best to emulate the death-defying antics via water slides but never approached the true point-of-no-return that was Action Park. My assumption is that there are at least one or two peeps here that had experienced the unadultered chaos of Action Park. I still remember the commercials and visits, which made me buy this breezy, sarcastic, comical, adventurous, very fun book.

** 'Summer of Sixtus' has officially come to an end as today was my first day at my new Pharma gig. No complaints on this end, it's good to be back in the driver's seat.

Looking forward to DP 35 big time, gimme some Philly.

Be Well People.
Sixtus
July 27, 2020 - 3:38pm

#1583

billy the kid

Joined:
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Carlo13/Richard Wagner

Carlo13, the Grateful Dead were huge fans of Wagner, and they even cancelled a couple of shows in 1985 so they could attend the performance of the Ring Opera in S.F. I saw the Dead shortly after at the Greek Theatre, it was a blast!
July 27, 2020 - 3:35pm

#1584

msmiranda

Joined:
July 21, 2016

Wagner

I've been a huge Wagner fan all of my life thanks to my parents playing classical music in our home.

I've seen his operas performed any number of times and like the Grateful Dead, I'm happy to travel great distances to see one. Last summer we made a train journey from Seattle to see his epic four-opera cycle "Der Ring Des Niebelungen" at San Francisco Opera.

Wagner the man was quite unpleasant (anti-semite, philanderer, swindler, etc) but he was a brilliant composer and created the combination of music linked to on-stage action that we see applied today in musical scores for motion pictures.
July 27, 2020 - 2:47pm

#1585

carlo13

Joined:
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Billy the kid

Richard Wagner died about 60 years after Beethoven who died around 1827 and wagner around 1887. Wagner was considered new age classical who said that "I am going to produce classical music that is much more interesting and new age than Beethoven's boring and sleep inducing symphonies." He said something like this back in the day.
July 27, 2020 - 2:36pm

#1586

msmiranda

Joined:
July 21, 2016

@NITECAT / Recent Reads

My own latest music reads include Patti Smith's memoirs "Just Kids" and "M Train". And just yesterday I finished Holly George-Warren's excellent Janis Joplin biography "Janis: Her Life And Music".

The latter brought back bittersweet memories. I was fortunate enough to see her perform twice. The first was on the Cheap Thrills tour in '68 and the second time was at Woodstock.

Such a tragic loss to her fans along with Pigpen, Hendrix, and Jim Morrison.
July 27, 2020 - 12:33pm

#1587

Charlie3

Joined:
September 21, 2015

They Don't Write 'Em Like That Anymore

A sentiment that has been shared by many (including The Greg Kihn Band and their Breakup Song). To put it another way, "It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came to late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over." I suspect this is a generational thing, although I confess that the high point of this feeling came for me in the '80s when there just really wasn't a lot of new music that I dug. I dug some '80s stuff, but not a lot.

Lately, I'm finding a lot of new stuff to dig, although it is not the classic rock sound of yore, nor is it a Dead clone. Mostly, it's artists doing something I haven't really heard before, or doing something old with a new twist. Sturgill Simpson, Khruangbin, Leon Bridges, Flaming Lips, Tame Impala and St. Paul and the Broken Bones would be a few examples of newer artists that I dig. So nobody is gonna do what Hendrix or the Dead did better than the original, I agree with that, but there will be artists finding new forms and styles that will be just as cool in their own way. And honestly, if I only had one artist to listen to, or only one style of music available, it would get old no matter how good it is.

Edit: Or, since I've been on a little Who kick lately, "Rock is dead they say. Long live rock".
July 27, 2020 - 12:23pm

#1588

nitecat

Joined:
November 1, 2010

Recent Reads

A friend asked me what I had been reading lately, so I thought I would share my latest reads:

Guitar King: Michael Bloomfield's Life in the Blues by David Dann-excellent read if you are into Bloomfield
California Dreaming by Michele Philips - OK with some insight into how fast the Mama's and Papa's took off and then broke up
Rod Serling: His Life, Work and Imagination by Nicolas Parisi - Excellent detailed look at behind the scenes of the Twilight Zone
Simple Dreams by Linda Ronstadt - a great read, very funny and honest, tells her story and the story of the beginnings of Country Rock
Carrie Fisher: A Life on the Edge by Sheila Weller - If you admire Carrie, this is a great book telling her story

The easiest, most fun read is Linda's.

I am now beginning to read the Beatles Anthology, a huge book, authorized by them and in their own words.
July 27, 2020 - 12:02pm

#1589

billy the kid

Joined:
December 3, 2019

Snafu/ Stevie Ray Vaughn

Snafu, I saw Stevie Ray Vaughn play twice, once at the San Francisco Blues Festival in 1979, and once at a Wavey Gravey event called.Cowboys for Indians, he played solo acoustic. . You're right he was absolutely fantastic.
July 27, 2020 - 11:52am

#1590

billy the kid

Joined:
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7/27/73 Watkins Glen

47 years ago today the Dead did their famous sound check at Watkins Glen. Hendrix Freak, were you at this, or Strider were you there?

John Perry Barlow

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Dennis

Dennis, you are an over achiever!

8/6/71

Simonrob and Gratefulhan - thanks for reminding me about The Road Trips with a portion of this show on. I had forgotten about that. I notice it also has 7/31/71 attached-another great show from that time.

Gratefulhan - I know what you mean about the audience tape of this show. I can still remember the first time I heard the tape, some 27 years ago in a mates flat, as he was dubbing it for me. Maybe the style and sound the band had at that time leant itself to audience recordings - a bit rough and ready with plenty of country/blues/rock and roll thrown in.
I have just re-listened to the FM recording of 7/2/71. You can hear the audience clapping and shouting out between songs. In fact at one point, you can hear someone shout out "Get on with it!" as they tune up between numbers. Obviously not up to speed on Deadhead etiquette !

Number 15,014

Mine has arrived......Oro, incoming..... check your email.

maybe someone can shed some light on the odd track numbering on the back....on Disc 3 the 04/20 songs are listed as tracks 1-6, then the 4/19 songs are listed as tracks 5-8?

Yippee/ tracks/anger management

# 15576 arrived today. I think I know why the track numbers are off. Dave was particularly spaced that day lol. Vguy my show took the same routing who knows. And it wouldn't be me if I didn't do this. The people who work for the Dead , Rhino, UPS and USPS are not evil. They produce something great we all like and work hard at it. Stop whinning are you completely unaware of what's going on right now. With short staffing inexperienced employees and any number of reasons there will be issues. Thank you Dave , Pinkus, Mary Norman USPS, UPS and people I forgot. You make my life more enjoyable

It has a Cumberland

And the Cumberland is playing now.

Landings

Pleased to hear this is landing in hands and getting some spins. Hopeful and assuming it sounds great; I've always loved this show and am also looking forward to the added nuggets - which I've never heard before. Separate playlists solve any problems easily there...but this one will get plenty of play in the old CD player, regardless.
At 11.

Sixtus

#10824 has landed

Spicy combo

Grateful Dead sunset jam session

tramjam

35! Hard to be lower.

Anyone get any number lower ever?

Deadvikes & Over Achieving

I would quote you to my wife, but she'd only have a despairing remark about you and the people I hang with......

What I listen to when I try to figure out what to Listen to

Playing in the Band, Dave's Picks Berkeley (maybe around 25 or 26?). Great tasting and never lets me down.

Dennis, you did me proud when you talked about merging songs together and splitting bonus tracks up into their own folders...

#8009/22000 Has Arrived

In sunny Southern California.

Whining

1. We PAID for a subscription, all info is the same as has been for many years
2. We’ve followed the PO instructions regarding our unusual circumstances. Same as every other year
3. The PO completely messed up so now we may not get what we PAID for.

So that and lamenting the fact that you can’t have sensible shipping options anymore is whining?
Fuck this place I’m over getting bummed out every time I post something.

I feel for ya Oro

And I feel for all our friends across the pond too. I have faith in dead.net also.. I think they will make good somehow. If not.. you have friends in low places than can help keep you whole.

I agree with Snafu too.. these are mostly great folks doing their jobs, but the world is a little fucked up right now.

It would give me great joy to see the folks overseas get their CDs about the same time as us (or reasonably close) and have some normalcy.. We all love the music and getting that crisp, fresh, Full Norman monster in the mail makes for a happy day. No reason to hog up all the fun here in the states.

No #35 for me today.. I haven't even checked my tracking.. but come to think of it, I am not sure I have even gotten a tracking number yet. That's what I get for living in the stix..

Have a great week all.. How's that Jerry Tune go, "In this world of trouble.. we've got to Love One Another" Fit's like the perfect fit, right... Now.

Tracking

Friday it was literally down the street. Now tracking says it's been lost somewhere in the hand off between UPS and the USPS and delivery date is unknown. I am going to vote in person this election even if I have to wait in line for 12 hours in a hazmat suit.

KeithFan...Question

A few months back there was a conversation about the '72 Europe recordings and Keith's presence in the mix...topic being some recordings were much better quality and more "Keith friendly" than others. Can't remember which, or why,....was it Steppin Out, Rockin/Rhein, or possibly some of the single shows that really shined?
Anyway, was hoping you might have a couple recommendations or favorite shows from the E 72 Tour with Keith up in the mix and just killin it!

Thanks in advance.....I have a young pianist in the family who requires exposure.

Re: Tracking

Might I suggest a portable plastic bubble?

https://images.app.goo.gl/k2nhx19yjuT645mF6

15 mile hike today / Walking Blues

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T9dkse6R3Tg. I walked up to Black Mtn. today, 2600 ft elevation. I didn't see any mtn lions or rattle snakes, but we did see a bald eagle. Paul Butterfield and Mike Bloomfield, boy they were musical giants, What a killer of a band.

2,600 feet in vertical

..and back down again? So 71/2 miles each way?

Walking Blues it is. That's a big day... Well done.

Edit: Extra points if you did it in a personal plastic bubble.

Re: Re: Tracking

Shopping for one on amazon as we speak. Thanks.

It's here!

Before even listening, I dumped discs 2 and 3 into an audio editing program and burned Scarlet through A&A on one CDR and JBG/DJ/ChinaRider/EstP/Terrapin/Wheel/WRat/SugMag on another. There is a clean break between A&A and JBG, but that break is an inaudible .005 seconds (approx) and the two songs should be united. I prefer my layout, but I totally see why GDM went the route they did on the discs. The traditional "split set two during D/S" is much easier on the listener's nerves then is a disc break between linked songs...
Only have time for Disc One tonight. About halfway through now. Sounds very clean and clear. Listening to this Esau, I feel Jerry and Brent are very nicely balanced in the mix, but the standard Healy tape lack of Phil's bass & Bob's guitar is in full effect here. Back in 2013 I got the Charlie Miller of this show and put the Let It Grow in my iTunes. I expect that will be a pretty hot finale for my listening tonight!
Play if you got 'em, if you don't need 'em just pass them on... May those still waiting get theirs soon.

Shipping Blues

Yup....feeling pain of the Shipping Blues. Ordered 2, 1 for me, 1 for my son. One still says it is in CA (I’m in MA), the other has been stuck in a USPS facility for 2 days, and 15 minutes from house. Time to start providing other shipping options to customers if they want to pay extra for UPS Direct, or maybe even allow downloads of the shows, CDs are old tech.

DaP 35 pitch

Is the pitch correct on the discs? Was off(slow) on the samples posted here - Thank you

Still waiting for it to reach a UPS facility...

So instead, last five:

Workingman's Dead 50th Anniversary - studio album

Greg Copeland - The tango bar

Terry Allen and the Panhandle Mystery Band - Just like Moby Dick

Webb Wilder - Night without love

Don Leady - Dos rios

No shipped email for 35

I haven't even received an email saying Dave's 35 has been shipped. Went to Order Status, 33 and 34 say Shipped, nothing under 35. I don't have a problem waiting if I knew it was actually in the system somewhere. But I'm not sure it is. Been a subscriber since the beginning, at same address. Hoping for some info soon.

No Shipping Notice For Me Either

Gonna Get There.. I Don't Know.

I am not worried though, I've been waiting 36 years.. In a way dead shows are like fine wine, just getting better with age.

No shipping notice, no Dave's 35 here in Baltimore...

...though my friend down the street got his yesterday. We are one zip code away, so maybe that has something to do with it. Once or twice, I received the pick before getting a shipping notification email, but that is usually not the case... here's hoping the mailman has something for me today.

My buddy who got his says that it sounds great - and he's a BIG fan of 84, (and, he was at the show that makes up the filler for this set.)

Peace

Aha....

Schrödinger's Pick is what it is....

Oroborous

send me a PM and I'll see what the Doc can do.

Shipping Notice

Looks like several folks have not received shipping notices and no posting of "shipping" on their order status. I called the help desk this morning and was told that there are delays in getting DaP 35 out the door due to the pandemic. She reassured me that these will be shipped soon as hopefully later this week / early next week.

As I wait GarciaLive 14 (and it's bonus disc), and the WMD Port Chester show are keeping me busy. Love the Port Chester show. Nice vibe to the show and found I didn't miss the lack of any monster jam being played at the show. Really digging it!

Fingers crossed for all of us still awaiting 35.

Thanks Mary!

PM sent

#9525

First disk smokes.

Late deliveries

I expected DaP35 to take a while to reach the U.K. but I still haven’t received Workingman’s Dead. Good job I ordered an extra copy from Amazon.

Deuce Shipping Blues

Your suggestion is spot on. Download option really is an idea whose time has come.

#3299

usually I'm on slow end for receiving DaP but DaP35 was in the PO in rural desert southwest by Monday, finally able to pick it up yesterday evening. hope to dig in later today. hope the shipping blues are short lived for everybody.

Rolling stone list on their site today

Garcia's best songs

Discusses 50 tunes

Worth a look

In keeping with Rolling Stone tradition, they list "keep your day job" as #1. (Just kidding......)

Delivered!

35 was delivered in my mailbox yesterday, I have to say I'm really digging this. Although Phil sounds a little low in the mix, anyone else experiencing this? Nice touch by the Dead with the colors of the CDs, sure looks like the colors of Philly sports to me (Red Phillies, Blue Sixers, Green Eagles). Hope everyone with shipping problems receives the CD soon. Peace.

Vent

So, tracking my package...it arrived in Illinois and sat for 3 days. Was pleasantly surprised that it came from there straight to my local post office, which incidentally is located 1 mile from my residence. There it has sat since Monday. Today is Thursday. Mail carrier just came by. No package.

This also happened to be the week that mail in voting for the primaries. Upon reading some earlier posts I have no doubt that the holdup of my package is indeed related to mail in voting and the ordered slowdown.

Normally I would have got this by Saturday or Monday. Even the extra for priority shipping has led to even longer wait time for delivery. I don't blame Dead.net or my mail carrier. This comes from whoever is running the postal service into the ground. Total b.s.. It is politically motivated without a doubt.

Agreed

...the first disc here smokes. Arrival of #9272 in metro Boston....there is hope!

Looking forward to the Deep Dive.

Sixtus

P.S. BTW... All should read this Jerry Interview: https://relix.com/articles/detail/jerry-garcia-portrait-of-an-artist-as…

Progress...

A week after receiving the Dead Net Store shipping notice, UPS have finally received the package in Fontana, CA. This means I now have an alternative tracking number which is recognized by USPS but of course it is not yet in the USPS system. No estimate of a delivery date yet. The package continues to move slowly, but at least it is moving. I don't consider this a problem, just a consequence of all the weirdness that is beginning to determine everything. When the going gets weird, the weird go dark.

Shipping notice

I also called customer service yesterday looking for the Dave's Pick 35. They told me end of the week or early next week I should receive it. I look forward to this release being a fan of this time period and being born and raised in the city of Brotherly Love

Postal Service blues

I am in the same boat as Spacebrother, also a Michigan resident (if I remember that correctly Spacebro). It arrived at my small city post office Monday and there it has sat. I am not at all worried about it and I usually don't check on my packages-- "when it arrives, it arrives." I still feel that way, but checked just 'cause.

I know folks don't want to talk politics on here, but this is all related to the new Postal Service head, who is trying to 'turn around' the organization's finances in the middle of a pandemic and with record numbers of folks voting by mail. In the early days of the pandemic, mailings took an extra day, maybe two at the most. We are finding everything is slowed down by at least several days now (many family birthdays in the past month). Just sharing my unscientific observances that point to meddling in the postal services practices-- it was well documented by major news organizations last week.

New practices include leaving mail to sit until the next day if it hasn't been sorted where postal employees were vigilant about getting mail out the door asap before. This is leading to backlogs at post offices with days of mail sitting. Consider this ending with many expletives directed at the people in charge of this shit show and politicizing the postal service.

Meanwhile, Amazon packages arrive the next day. I saw folks on the Workingman's Dead board complaining about the holdup. I ordered it from Amazon one day and got it the next-- for less and with free shipping. Just sayin'. And to add something Dead-music related-- love that 2/21/71 show with WD. Give me any show with Easy Wind and I am a happy camper.

Estimated-eyes

Just curious how your WMD was shipped: UPS, FedEx, or smart post?
I’m guessing UPS or fedex direct to your house?

KeithFan...Question

5/24/72 comes to mind but only because of Keith's "barrel-house boogie-woogie" riffs in Mexicali Blues. Very slick and fun. But if you want to hear Keith WAY in front of the mix, I'd start with his first few shows with the Dead in the fall of 1971.

BIG THANK YOU

To JeffSmith for posting the link to album art! I'll find out soon enough if you have the new JerryLive there, too. Keep it safe all and have a happy rest of summer!

#21,095 has landed!

Sitting here in limbo...

Well..this sucks. Tracking shows this was delivered to my local post office on Monday the 4th.. I went down there to see what the hub bub was and they claim they have no idea where it is..lol..First time that ever happened..any suggestions anyone? Or am I shit out of luck??

Declaration

I love The Wheel.
Always comforting and gratifying to see it appear in an offering.

AND this being the First Official Esau (I think?); man it is pretty funky and cool. Very fun.

Carry On.
Sixtus

*RE/ Saves Picks #35 / Loving this 1984 Performances

...I’m a big fan of Brent , and I gotta day he’s absolutely amazing during these performances from in the spring of 1984!
Also , to all you artwork fans & critics for all the Dead’s Officially release, let’s add this Releases Cover ; contains References to mind altering substances ... if (one) you look closely enoughat the artwork used for ‘Dave’s Picks ‘ #35 ,the skeletons right boxing glove is holding a burning marijuana Cigarette , I wonder what strain is being smoked?! Lmao! 😂😉😗💨
Have a grateful evening everyone, I’m on my fourth listening pleasure With Dave’s Picks #35. AND loving every single grateful moment I’m experiencing over & over again ,so cool peacefull sounding recording by Healy ! I’m more than pleased with the audio quality, just how I like it sometimes. Nice clean chasing the muse around a theater or any stage of that matter! . I’ll post my final review in the up coming days! . Have a grateful evening my brothers and sisters, peace be with and until next time, as Dave says, play it loud!!! Lol love it. Have a grateful rest of your days this evening. 🙏❤️😎