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  • Oroborous
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    Ok, back to Europe

    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

  • Oroborous
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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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    Agree..

    Can anyone tell me why we did not get a Winterland '74 Box Set? The box design would, of course, been a mini Wall of Sound.

    Wars have been fought for less.

    Oh, the horror.

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    Would you like yours in a mini or mega? 1972, 1977, 1978 still ripe for the picking. Added together that equals mega I'd say. Taken alone some fine mini ones there. I think there's a New Year's 1971 available yet to add...

    P.S. Currently spinning the space jam from 10-18-1978

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    Stuck in the mud…

    Made through 5/4 and sorta first run of 5/7 (on crappy device while working) But got bogged down this week with mucho fuckery and distractions so lost my pace and mojo, hoping I can catch up this WE…
    ONWARD!

    NO MORE MINI BOXES!
    Every piddly little release is one less possible future box! Like most things there’s only so many, nothing lasts as the pranksters say…
    We’re running outta time so we need huge boxes with the best remaining 20 shows from each year.
    Perhaps more from years they’ve been stingy or ignored.
    This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin around…
    Seriously, sales are flat, saturation for some has set in, old heads don’t want any newer stuff and/or are dying off etc, yeah, this could all go away sooner than later. We need to demand more output for the faithful, and stop worrying about the picky folks who only buy limited things. I totally understand not buying things you won’t use, but if we don’t support these releases, eventually, they’ll just stop!!
    They need to quit dicking around, otherwise,…..Smithers, release the hounds, it’s time to quit screwing around and storm the vault! Where the hell is Keithfan anyway? Thought he was getting close? Hear sound of foot tapping…AND,
    Hey Mickey, what happened to “everything’s going to get digitized and you’ll be able to order almost any show” (paraphrasing).

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Thanks for the great information about the vault, your information always is well thought out and reliable. I would love a list of shows that are in the vault, it looks like you would too. I posted a couple of weeks ago that I wish Dead.net would print out such a list so that we could see it. They could print out one list a month for one year (list of the month). I think that people would really look forward to that list each month, I know I would. If people want to remain surprised about what's in the vault , then they don't have to look at the list. Again, thanks for all the great information you put out, your postings are always so interesting and positive.

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I wonder what the Alfred College stuff would sound like if they cleaned it up. That's a decent full show with an acoustic set. I always liked that one, but it's an East coast college with a terrific emphasis in art and ceramics of all kinds.. so to me it has good karma.

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16

There's other spring 1970 stuff as many have mentioned somewhat recently.

Agree with Billy.. right on.

Thanks!

Wasn't sure if I was shouting into the wind, so your positive feedback is much appreciated :)

As for The List, yes, yes, yes!
I'd love that and I'd even help do it ;)
I saw you mention that earlier and think it's a great idea.

I've been fascinated with the story of the tapes since I got my first one.
As it was handed to me, I asked "For Free?" and the response was "Yeah man, never sell them that's against the rules."

This strange occurrence in the middle of the decade of greed, blew my 15 year old brain wide open.

I've been fascinated ever since:
1. Where do these recordings come from?
2. How many are there?
3. How can I get the best copies of them all?

Those three questions & my curiosity about the answers continues to inspire me to this very day.

What A Long Strange Trip It's Been!

EDIT: JimInMD, agreed! Funny you mentioned 5/1/70 that was another one of Bob Minkin's cleverly chosen photographs, the master reels of that show appeared on the same page. Collector Heads are really really pretty neat.

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I'm really enjoying this 8-4-89 Cal Expo show. Great choice. 89 was so consistently good. Built to last is one of my favorites. Long 1st set. Pre-Drums Eyes and a Crazy Fingers!?

Definitely release worthy.

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Thanks for posting that link. I watched the whole thing and my dreams are dashed. Well shit, why did they erase the tapes!

It was interesting that later someone asked what show some of the songs came from on Dead Set and Dave said, great question, we don't know. And they made major edits to some of the songs.

I guess it is time for me to move on from that. I am bummed, because those full shows would have been a huge treat in Multi Track.

I am sure glad the vault is filled with other treasures.
Be well all!

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ICECRMCNKD - haha no doubt!

DeadVikes - Sorry about dashing those dreams, and yeah that's a fact filled interview, lotsa stuff to process.
If it makes you feel any better some of my dreams were dashed as well, 1970 is such an epic year, I'd always hoped there was more hiding somewhere, but after watching that, I'm not so sure.

David Lemieux you must see the Festival Express tapes safely delivered to the Vault, this is our most desperate hour. Help me Vault@Dead.net, you're my only hope.
Droid noises in the background.
You must learn the ways of the Force if you're to come with me to the Vault.

All this 1980's talk is making me want to listen to some of that stuff, might have to try and pick one of the existing full SBD shows for a revisit, 10/30 & 10/31, I'm looking at you.

DaP 35 has arrived.

I got some listening to do, I'm way behind. Too much research and not enough music is making me a very dull boy.

You must do what you feel is right. Learn about the force.

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GOGD,

Sounds like a good idea. 10/30 tomorrow?

My #35 still not in system. I thought I would have it by this weekend, but it now looking like mid August. Interested in what you all think of the release?

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Maybe it is a penalty for publishing Dave's Email.

No soup for you!

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Weird, that post reminds me of something I was thinking... but with an element of danger.

And the site is laggy.. it’s out of date on my computer but up to speed on my phone. Trippy shit!

What about a twofer? 10/30/80 Wednesday & 10/31/80 Thursday?
Just an idea. Jim you gotta do both tomorrow ;)

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10/31 is on YouTube.. most if it is on Dead Ahead too.. with comedy from Franken and Davis and a wonderful cameo from Dr. Henry Kissinger.

True story.. once upon a time I used to spend a good bit of each week on an airplane getting from here to there and back again (or not) for work. In my peak I flew so much it was almost an auto upgrade to first class. One Monday morning.. I was on the early flight from National Airport / DC to LaGuardia / NY and was seated next to Dr. Kissinger. I felt like asking him if he was making a bootleg recording of our conversation.. Anyway.. that was a trip. Probably circa 2005 to 2010. He was ancient even back then but still pretty sharp. I just googled him to see if he was still alive, he is.. @ 97 years old. We had a brief conversation and I seem to recall he was not particularly into small talk. So we had coffee together and read the paper on our 50 minute flight.

Dammit Henry, give me that tape!!

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Yes, sounds like a great idea. 10/30/80 tomorrow and 10/31/80 on Thursday.

Oh and they recorded both nights on video for Dead Ahead. Is that still in the Vault. I would think so since they added the bonus footage when they released the DVD.

Classic Jim, you and Henry Kissinger! Good stuff.

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Thanks GOGD for that Lemieux link. That was a nice blast from the past. That was before the two Spring 77 boxes and the Cornell Betty boards were still missing. I remember back then I didn't care much about Cornell or 77 shows in general. That's all changed now. I've seen the 1977 light!

Jim and Kissinger! That's nutty. Maybe that's the closest a Deadhead ever got to Kissinger? Nutty.

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....no. I literally ran into Tim Burton. Drinks were spilled. Clothes were stained.
Incredible director and filmmaker and I have been known to be a big fan. Unless I'm not in the mood.
Epilogue....He patted me on the shoulder and continued on.

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Spent some time with 10/30/80 today. So, I listened to the SBD, the first option on Relisten. The vocals are somewhat muddled, especially Jerry's. Not a Miller transfer. And I will of course admit I am not a pro when it comes to the archive. I mostly stick to the official releases, as I am sure like most of you, I had probably too many rough sounding tapes growing up. And no, I don't listen to them anymore. Why would I, I have over 200 shows from the Vault. Spent way more than I should have on some of them, but that is okay.

Interested in what you all think of 10/30/80 and if there is a better version, please let me know.

10/31/80 on tap for tomorrow. What is the best version on the archive?

We are still thriving Jim.

Be well folks.

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Happy anniversary 8/6/74... Love the Uncle John's Band from this show....... Another China Doll that never was...... be good everyone.. bob t

Hi Ya,

DeadVikes, for 10/30/80 I think this is the best source in circulation (there's only 4 currently) -
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-30.139599.sbd.bershaw.flac16

10/31/80 is a different story, but this source that appeared in 2018 is pretty cool as it has all the skits and interviews etc and I think it's the most balanced, not 100% on that -
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-31.140416.sbd.bershaw.flac16

Like Jim was saying a lot of this show was released on Dead Ahead, I think the majority of Set 2, which is burned into my brain from the VHS tape which we played like once a week BITD.. but yeah I dug this recording yesterday.

Some dated "humor" but.. as a historical document, pretty much complete.

And what a classic show, not sure if it's just because we listened to it so many times, but they feel like definitive 1980s versions of Don't Ease, Lost > Saint, Franklin's, Fire On The Mountain all in there natural setting.. The best stuff got selected for the movie, but it's fun to hear it all together as it happened.

I did expect this FOTM to transition into GSET ala Dead Set, props to Betty she created that transition with razor blades and tape.. Wow!

Alright, I did 10/31/80 yesterday, gonna try and do 10/30 today.

Also got DaP V35.. it's sounding good, hope you all get it in time for the weekend.

Be Well All!

EDIT: BOB T you had to mention 8/6/74.. Doh! 5 songs released = 1 hour 8 minutes of need to revisit Dead.
Damn, they've released soooo much stuff at this point, just watching that 2012 interview with DL kinda put it in perspective. As far as Dead music goes, this is the best time ever to collect the Grateful Dead!

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... got me howling at the moon! Thanks, GOGD for the link to the show with all of the skits and stuff! Makes for a pretty fun listen!

Still waiting on Dave's 35...

Peace

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OTIS: Glad you're digging it!

Started listening yesterday and I'm actually just finishing Set 3 now.

It's a long show, but yeah I dug the extra context of the skits and what not, takes you back.
Ahhh Nostalgia.

Enjoy!

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Kicks ass. Of course would love the full shows, but the music is outstanding on 31.

GOGD, yes, that was the source I checked out yesterday. 10/31 appears to be the same deal. Love the bonus tracks on Dead Ahead.

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Shakedown Stream tomorrow is 7-21-90.
I was there.

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I was at all 3 also.... I have great pictures from the next night!!! Looking forward to tonight's show.... Birdsong is 16 minutes!!! bob t

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Looking forward to the last Shakedown Stream. Conekid and Bob t, you guys were there. That is great. Maybe we will see you all in the crowd.

Who has a pick for today?

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I blocked out the time to enjoy it.

I think we can pick BobT and Cone Kid out from the crowd.. BobT is the guy hanging on the sharp-wired fence getting stern looks from Bobby. Cone Kid is the one walking lost and aimlessly through the crowd with the rainbow colored ice cream cone that seemingly never melts..

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Best tickets I ever got from mail order was this run. I was in grad school in Illinois, we got 5th row, 3rd row and 10th row for the 3 days right in front of Bob. I feel bad for the person behind us because my friend i went with was 6' 4"!!! bob t

10/30/80 awesome, have never listened to any of these complete shows. Great for working, nice long shows too, must of been awesome to have been there! Looking forward to 10/31 today, and of course SS this evening. Oh, and don’t forget the Meyer Sound webinar about their history with the dead going all the way back to the wall of sound before there was a Meyers sound! It really is a great time to be a DH.

Upon re-listening to these Radio City shows from 10/30 & 10/31 they are definitely a couple of high-profile gigs that the GD really lived up too.

Having known bits and pieces of these two shows from essentially the beginning of my tape collecting days, I've always wanted to listen to them in their entirety as an experience.

I remember collecting both runs from the Warfield & Radio City and being bummed that there weren't complete SBD sources available, sound quality varied tremendously between shows and tapes and that it was a real pain in the ass trying to determine what existed and what didn't and the best versions etc.

Not sure if I sat down and listened to them after I got all the shows as I was burnt out by that time. But this latest re-listen was really cool.

I'd read an article with Betty recently about the editing process of Dead Set and that planted the seed to go back and check it out, so I started with the remaster of that album. Props to Betty, she really could pick the best takes on songs the band played during a run. The Dark Star from Live Dead is a great example. It's always Betar with Betty! Dead Set was in heavy rotation in my early collecting days, it was the best sound quality & closest thing to current live Dead we could get BITD, so we played that album, and Dead Ahead VHS tape ALL THE TIME in high school. And I love those versions of these songs.

I followed up Dead Set with the full recording including sketches of 10/31 on Wednesday and then 10/30 yesterday. I decided to Watch set 3, the first half released as bonus material on Dead Ahead remaster and the 2nd part available on YouTube (thanks JimInMD & DeadVikes for the reminder). Man if you haven't checked it out, DO! You gotta see Drums with Billy Cobham to get the full effect, it's awesome, Kreutzmann is freaking out.

Really enjoyed that whole trip and these are some really solid shows, 3 full sets each night and the last two nights of this legendary tour of historic halls never to be repeated again. It might not be the Dead at their best, but it's the best Dead we have, so dig it. 10/30/80 On The Road Again is the definitive version and Jerry's call and response gets me every time.

Listening to the opening of 10/31 you can imagine the tension as the band deals with technical difficulties when they hit the stage and are filming a live TV Simulcast (A first at the time?, rare for sure). I mean this is 40 years ago, I know what happened and I was still feeling nervous for them as Phil's gear squawks and squeaked. And what happens? Epic versions of Heaven Help The Fool & Sage & Spirit (last time for each?) that's the magic right there! That's the stuff I love.

Highly recommend a couple of supplemental videos, the famous Press Conference for these shows (I guess it's you and me bub, I mean Bob), and Bob & Jerry's appearance on GMA, they're both a real treat and they really set the shows up in the proper context.

Alright, lots of good stuff here. Thanks for tripping with me, this has been on my to do list for awhile, and I really enjoyed it.

Who here saw these shows? Stories?

OB: Thanks for the Meyer Sound webinar tip, looking forward to checking that out.

As for pick today, take your pick! Catch up on 10/30 & 10/31 if you haven't already, Listen to DaP V35 if you have it already, or there's the DiP V31 stuff BobT pointed out, which is epic. And we got the final Shakedown Stream tonight of 7/21/90. Wowee.

Happy Friday All!

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My 3rd and 4th shows. Like a fool I didn’t go on the 23rd because I had a job. Which I missed that day anyway and had to call in ‘sick’ from a pay phone at a rest area on I-57 north of Kankakee.

On the 21st I was just outside the gate when the music started. They had pulled closed tall chain link gates because people were trying to sneak in. So we were standing there, with legit tickets, waiting to get in. Finally got in and had to squeeze in on the lawn.
Traffic was a disaster that day, complete traffic jam on I-80. I know someone who, along with hundreds of other cars, just parked on the shoulder of I-80 and ran to the venue. I think that the closure of I-80 that day, along with other problems, is why it had to be Soldier Field from then on.

Jim, your description of me is accurate, except that was 7-17-89, where I drank beer all day in the hot sun, but wasn’t old enough to buy beer inside. Didn’t eat enough food, had some paper, lost my friends, didn’t drink enough water, then about lost it when Jerry played a few notes of Close Encounters Theme during Space. But everything came back together during Gimme Some Lovin.
Awesome initiation and learning experience for me, being by myself at my 2nd show and having too much too fast. Memories......

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Lmao, you brought back many memories! Most are funny now but at the time....yeah, sometimes the hard way is the only way to learn! So Remember kids what fat Freddy says: getting drunk THEN stoned is like pissing in the wind! 3/13/81 anyone! Lol.
Especially enjoyed the “cause I had a job“ and the calling in sick from a pay phone!
Missed a few top shelf shows because of some BS job, like 7/19/89, 4/9/89, and had to do the pay phone thing several times. Forget what the trick was but there was a way to have the call go through normal without the boss knowing it was LD. Of course the hard part was getting up at the right time and finding a quiet pay phone to call in at just the right time!

Oh, and big thanks to GOGD for that awesome 2012 Dave video! Between that and his wish list from back then it’s interesting what’s been released and of course what hasn’t been but might...

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Nice seats Bob t. I will keep my eyes out for you and the crew.

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Put in 4x the amount of money so that the message to add more coins doesn’t come on during the call.

Yeah, got up too late that day, and my friends didn’t have to work so they were in no rush. Almost missed calling in sick before my shift started because I forgot that I was in central time zone and was an hour behind my job. Luckily the pay phone at the rest area wasn’t being used when I got there.

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and I thought I had slacker employees.

These guys have it down to exactly how many quarters, nickels and dimes to add to the pay phone for a truly convincing flu.

This is really good stuff, hilarious. I wish I was hanging you guys back then. I would have taken notes and gone much further in life than I did... (not that I am complaining)

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testing, testing - Radio High Desert here. hello Dear Friends and Fellow Travelers - hope you and your loved ones are all well. a little late - this is the anniversary of a favorite and super sweet show - Alpine 8/7/82, formally released as Dicks Picks 32. Yep, I was there, so was my youngest brother. A beautiful evening in southern Wisconsin. this and the next night, 8/8/82, with John Cippolina and Zakir Hussain mysteriously showing up on stage in America's Dairyland, were foundational, life changing. Super solid '82 1st set. Music > Sugaree > Music opener. No idea how crazy rare that was at the time. Roses / CC Rider / more Roses a-Rambling. before the show my dear brother, all of 12(?) at the time, had said he wanted to hear On The Road Again. I said "No Way, not happening." Wrong (again) - No hay way? Si, hay way! One of a handful of electric versions! Always love Althea. And a Let It Grow out in low rolling Midwest farmland??!!
But its the 2nd set, of course, that takes this to the level of "Sacred Alpine". Laying it down now - this China > Rider is flat out one of the greatest versions post hiatus. at times Jerry sounds like he's finger picking during the jam, it builds and builds and builds, and just when you think they're settling into that first verse of Rider, he and Brent go long and pull out that little pre-hiatus breakdown and it is flat out - stone - cold - gorgeous. classic great Rider, Phil and Jerry crushing it on northbound train. swinging early funky Women Smarter. Ship of Fools (always). Excellent Playing, with a sweet long jam into drums. Again, laying it down - the Wheel that emerges from the waves of Space rolling over the those dark hills and sleeping cows is without question one of the most beautiful live versions I've heard. Into a exquisite Playing reprise. And then (of course) Morning Dew. Monster version. Yep - just another Saturday Night out there in the rolling pastureland. Shook the hand with Uncle Sam. it was beautiful. A few words of caution, this had a classic Latvala caveat emptor. this is an early 80s Healy board, Phil was way higher in the shed mix then the SBD, sigh, c'est la vie, oh well. Still so very lucky to have this, like all the audience tapes and releases. Best to everybody in these difficult times. With love.

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Double Post = Double Vision.
Or.. second that emotion?

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Jim - today's anniversary show as tomorrow's pick - yes. with 8/8/82 on its proper day for extra credit. for the record - 8/8 Satisfaction > Brokedown sent me over the moon. as if I wasn't already headed there.

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And so it is.

I need to either find this CD and re-rip it or go to the archive.

I had a hard drive failure years ago.. but not to worry, I had TWO backup 650 gig Western Digital external drives.. Same model bought the same day. (shows how long ago this was, I think I am up to 8 TB's of GD/JGB/Jerry shows by now.. perhaps a little less there is other band filler that squeezes in). These things were big and seriously heavy.. they were the largest external drives you could get at the time that were plug and play...

So I plug them in and .. both backup drives failed. Apparently there was a known circuit board flaw.. by known, I mean known to everyone else but me years after I bought them, or more accurately after my work purchased them for me to backup my shit.

I re-ripped most, but not all, this one somehow fell through the cracks.. so I have motivation to find and re-rip and I have all morning to put it together. Been meaning to do this for years.....

My first show was 4/19/82.. so 82 works.

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4/19/82 - ravens are brothers and sisters and much loved ....

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We are working in unison to drive DeadheadBrewer crazy (or at the very least to convert Mrs. Brewer to a head and future frequent poster).

Two shows a day, at a minimum. :D What could possibly go wrong?

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Bluecorn: sweet! I’ve been thinking about that one lately and how it should be taken for a spin, and after your awesome summation how could I not! Right On, really enjoyed that!

DONE DEAL: dooood, that’s too f-Ed up and scary to even discuss! That’s like a Deadhead horror movie.

7/21/90: thanks for bringing that, worts and all! New shows always good. Summer 90 still good but always felt like there was a heaviness? Slight return after cruising the galaxy the what? 3, 4 previous tours? But a subtle shift....Big Jer bringing the fire though!
Really going to miss the next few weeks and kinda bummed about Thursday switch...it was our date night through this madness, the one in our 11...well, hopefully they’ll keep er rolling one way or another...ssshhhh,I think I’m converting the misses?

Have it going now finally. Tough day.
Anyway Brent's last three shows. Had I will take you home from Spring 90 on earlier.

Nice to see a new selection Blue Crow. I do have Dick's 32, so it is on the burner.

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It’s 8/27 so I suspect that they will be doing a Venetta anniversary.

Hopefully subsequent streams return to Friday.

Enjoyed last night. Didn’t see myself because I was crammed on the lawn. But did see BobT, he was the guy up front wearing a tie dye and having a good time.
The video seemed a little grainy, but then I paused the stream and restarted, and the video quality improved. I’ve noticed in previous streams that if the audio and video aren’t synced a pause and restart fixes the problem.

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but the 8/7 china > rider jam has that same great bluegrass-driven feel, and 8/8 has an excellent Brown Eyed Women - that song is sort of my Cumberland.
as someone who can't even keep up with one a day, both Alpine 82 shows in one day is of course not entirely serious. really just wanted to get 8/7 on everybody's radar. sort of fell through the cracks in the DiP series, seldom mentioned, got some real sound issues - in particular not nearly enough Phil - but a stellar show. China>Rider, Wheel, Morning Dew all favorites of mine. And 8/8 was all kinds of fun and excellent in its own way.
on another 8/7 anniversary note - Jerry Band played an excellent jammed out show in Seattle in '93. same brother was with me. that show was notable for debut of Lightning Bolt guitar - first Dead shows with Lightning Bolt were in Eugene later that month. personally, I loved the tone of Lightning Bolt.
have a great Saturday everybody.

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8/8/82 Set 2 long time favorite!

Always been a big admirer of these 2 shows, with the 2nd night Set 2 ranking up there as an all time fave BITD, would just sit and imagine being there.. BLUECROW you lucky dog you, where was your mind at during The Other One?
It's a smoker!

Nice Pick, looking forward to this..

BTW: There's a little Cumberland flavor in Mama Tried towards the end ;)

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