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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #331
    Slow Dog Noodle
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    Manipulative?

    would be if this fourth pick was a Dead and Co show.

  • #332
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    Kraken 36

    I like the name Kraken, my first choice was Sockeyes though. Drove by the official store (South Lake Union) last Saturday but didn't stop in. Can't wait to get like a 4 game ticket package.

    #36 is a surprise. The occasional 80's release is all good, but 2 in a row, c'mon Dave. The fourth pick of the year has historically been a solid (but not long pole) show to get us pumped for the sub. I'll postpone judgement until I hear it in it's re-mastered glory, but seems like a weak follow up to a mediocre '84 show. Anyway, can't wait to get the sub info for 37 and 38.

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    Love all the comments so far, and the diversity of opinion. Going back to when Dick’s Picks started, I only bought the shows that really pricked up my ears(68-72) mostly, and continued with Road Trips series. After boxzilla, I had a change of heart, and then had to go back(it’s that collector gene/defect) and fill in all the blanks. It wasn’t too embarrassingly expensive thank God. Luckily, the 2011 Bonus Disc(which I only have a burned copy of) taught me the lesson to always subscribe, so, I have a complete Dave’s series, along with RTs & Dick’s. I guess my first instinct was best, but because I have been buying music from 1965 to the present, that collectors gene/defect has taken over. So, since I MUST have it all, I will.
    I tell myself it’s good to have all eras, but It’s the very rare post ‘77 show that I give a second or third listen to. The bonus disc for me is a MUST have, so the price is worth it(right??).
    I won’t complain about ANY of the releases, and maybe one day, I’ll sell these complete sets. But probably not.
    I can’t disagree with anyone’s decision as to which way they will go. But for me, the first bonus disc that’s from after ‘77, I will be done with the subscriptions. Looking forward to new music, especially AB 50.
    Peace to all, stay safe & healthy.
    Music is the best!!

    P.S. There are only 4 songs from #36 that I am excited to hear(is that a complaint??).

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    Quote from a nice little blog aptly titled "the modern deadhead":

    "The five-month break and their healthier approach made a big difference to the sound. "I can't tell you what it means to have been to the point where it looked like there wasn't going to be any more Grateful Dead, and then to come back like this and to have it be as good as it is now," Kreutzmann said in '88, "We're playing better, we're healthier - all of us, not just Jerry - and we have more energy; I know I do. I feel great! I feel young!""

    http://moderndeadhead.blogspot.com/2009/12/grateful-dead-1987.html

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    I was not aware that one of these was Dave’s first show. That makes some sense. I would probably have only bought one from this year, too, if I’d been buying a la carte. Only problem with a la carte is you end up paying about $50 per show, once you factor in tax and shipping. Makes the sub model more appealing.

    I'm amazed (and proud of you guys) for not jumping all over me for what I wrote. I almost never post here, mainly because of a small contingent of folks who cannot stomach anything that smacks of criticism, or even discernment. And they want to argue if you're being "negative."

    There's NO rule that being a Deadhead means never criticizing a performance, or even loving every era equally. That’s pure BS. Many, many Deadheads who actually saw them perform WITH JERRY back in the day were critical then, and have just as much right to be critical now. The “Drums” segment of 80s shows was literally a piss break for half the people in the place at every concert I attended. People derided the 70s-era version “Dancing in the Streets” as “Disco Dead,” and yes, said the same thing about “Shakedown” when it first came out. “U.S. Blues” was often considered a least-preferred encore, earning the nickname “Useless Blues.” Don’t even get me started on “Day Job” (a song which I happen to think is a fun throwaway, actually). And yes, people who jumped on the bus when “Touch of Grey” came out were looked down on as “Touch-Heads.” I was there.

    Having said all that, I'll give these a listen, and am looking forward to having more HQ versions of "West LA" and "Alabama." But seeing those dates keeps my expectations very, very low. Good era for Bobby fanatics, not so much for Jerry diehards, IMHO.

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    Unless they really piss me off (and they might just do that one day), I will likely subscribe to the bitten end.

    I enjoy it.. and looking back, I am happy with the shows I saw, even the ones that were not 'great,' the regret I have is the shows I could have seen but didn't.. What's $25 a release in the grand scheme of things.. I look at all the money I never spent smoking, that's my Dave's Picks loot.

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    If I was buying alacarte this year , I only would have bought the 1974 release ( Dave's #34).

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    Classic reactions, including mine...

    First off, there's a sheet-ton of great shows left in the vault. Without a doubt. But the number of release-able shows for, say, '67, '68, '69 and '70 is limited, I'd guess. Plus, shows in those years tended to be too short for a Dave's release. Though (2) '68s or '69s would fill three discs. So Dave is killing two birds with one stone: upend the pattern of a strong finish to the year, release his own first show. Any criticism of the vault keeper for doing that is mainly -- according to these pages -- seems rooted in wanting our own first shows released instead.

    There are a ton of shows from '71, '72, and '73 and a handful from '74 yet to go. And good-sounding 80s tapes -- at least judging from 30 Trips -- are not all that abundant. But Dave will be scouring for 80s and maybe 90s tapes to leaven and slow the release of the prime stuff from '71 to '74. Understandable, in a sense, if they want to stretch this vault release stream til Dave retires. Instead, I'd rather see a decade-long model where we just get the cream.

    I'd guess that the 2021 Dave's Picks start out strong, based on an '84 and an '87 to end this year. But if the 3rd and 4th picks are downright lame, I'd probably bail on the subscription after only-god-knows how many years.

    That said, the boxes certainly provide Dave another outlet. And I'd guess he'll want a blockbuster for 2021. I'm still thinking fall '72.

    Frankly, if I were Dave, I'd love to read the squirming comments that greet a surprise pick, knowing that he can make us all stop chattering with a phenomenal #37 announcement or a killer box next year.

    To sum up this year, the June '76 box really hit the spot; I like June much better than the rest of that year. We got (2) Feb '71 shows. The October '77 Dekalb show is a classic from tape trading days and entirely welcome. And June '74 with bonus disc is in the sweet spot. So overall I'd have to grade the year's output as an A and remain open-minded about the forthcoming '87 show.

    Naturally, I'll be riveted to learn about #37 and #38 and the 2021 box. Meanwhile, this winter, I only have a couple hundred shows to enjoy while we hunker down once again in the vortex of unanticipated events.

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    I would love a crisp '91! Though honestly, there are (a lot of) times I actually prefer the later Vince era to the '91-'92 Hornsby/Welnick period. At any rate, perhaps it goes without saying, we still haven't seen a '90s Dave Pick.

    Dick (or I guess should say Dick's Picks) gave us:

    3 '90s
    5 '80s (counting 12/26/79)
    3 '60s (4 if you count 2/13-2/14/70)

    Dave (Dave's Picks) has given us:

    0 '90s
    6 '80s (counting 12/3/79)
    4 '60s (counting 1/2 and 1/23/70)

    It's obvious that the sweet spot for both series' is the '70s. If this is a gift to Dave (this was his first show), it's well-deserved. Heck, it's perhaps even more deserved as a gift to Charlie Miller (his favorite show).

    How's this look? As a very rough (not fully thought out schematic): Each year we get one respective pick from the following eras: '69-'72, '73-'78, '79-'86, '87-'95. I'd take it! But it wouldn't be as fun, I don't think. In Dave We Trust! I subscribe because I want them all and want to support the enterprise, but a la carte is definitely an option now for many at 22K.

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    Hey, that quitting smoking shit was easy,,,, quit subscribing??? Don't know if I have enough man in me for that!

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:00

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12/3/79

I have the show on as background music for an on-line training where I just have to listen.

Terrapin allllmost comes to a complete stop.

sounds a group of sloths playing

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: much love to you; so sad you got "Horse" disease. A true tragedy.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:21

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isn't heading Boris Johnson's house??

And Vguy, please don't stop the "jokes"... it's the little things now and a silly smile is worth a million [fill in whether you value love or money and state the denomination...]

A penguin is driving down the road and can feel something is not right with his car...he sees a repair shop and pulls in...he tells the mechanic something's wrong but I'm not sure what...the mechanic tells him "ok give me about an hour to check it out"...the penguin goes out on the street, looks around and sees an ice cream shop...he goes in and orders an extra large dish of vanilla bean ice cream and starts dipping his beak into it, enjoying the ice cream...later on he goes back to the repair shop, the mechanic looks up from what he is doing and tells the penguin "looks like you blew a seal"...the penguin shrugs, wipes his bill on his shoulder and sez "Nah, it's only ice cream..."

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Submitted by Gollum on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 22:43

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mm...okay, that's pretty good-

Always loved a good joke, thanks for the laughter, it feels grateful! ... What would you rather have? a five dollar foot long or a free 8 inches?
I’m sorry, that’s the last joke I ever tell. Love them just don’t have any...lol

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?

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“It’s too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin’ around here”

-Billy Madison

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 08:34

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Moses, my apologies! I forgot what your avatar was and started using it a few months back when I made my first trip through the E72 box and saw the cover for 5/18. I've changed it now, as you can see. Can't show up at prom in the same dress as someone else! How gauche.

SJButler--I would also get Charlie's Angels trading cards, even though I had never been allowed to watch the show. I eventually traded for a card that had Farah standing naked behind a bush, which was the best card anyone at our school had.

I was at a party in the B.C. times (Before Covid), and these two guys were talking about how they were sure that the original Star Wars (yes, I had trading cards of that, too) came out in 1979. After a while I calmly stated, "The original SW came out on 5/25/77." The only reason I know that is because of DaP1. The one guy kind of accepted that, but the other (who had been busy all night brashly telling everyone all the "facts" in his head) glared at me and said, "I think it came out in 1979." I demurely said, "You may think that, but you'll be wrong . . . " with a little bit of tease in my voice. I was about to tell them how I had that date memorized, but the know-it-all glared harder at me and stormed off before I could explain how I wasn't being rude but was just trying to needle him a bit. Oh, well. The other people grinned, as they had grown tired of the blowhard anyway.

p.s. Casey--How 'bout them Twins, eh? :)

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 09:46

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Couple days late on this but did anybody listen to TIGDH on SiriusXM a couple days ago? Dave was talking about some 8 track recordings From ‘68 that were ultimately set aside when the then state of the art 16 track machines came out. Dave went on to say that we’d be seeing these 8 track recordings “soon”. He didn’t give much more and I got the impression it would more of a one off release vs a full box set or anything. Maybe a RSD release or something but that was my take and he was off the subject within a few seconds. The date of these specific recordings was 8.21.68 but assume there are more multitrack tapes from the same effort.

Did anybody else hear the same thing?

What ever it is it would be great. I went back and loaded up the Tahoe Bowl stuff from February ‘68 (DiP 22 of I’m thinking of correctly). Smoking stuff!

Seems like there is a bunch of pending stuff (AB50, Dap 36, maybe a fall box???) so maybe what I heard was more what I wanted to hear Dave say....

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:26

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I didn't hear Dave talking about it, but maybe he was referring to the Aoxomoxoa outakes. I believe they started recording in 8 track and then 16 track came along and they started over. I would love it if they released the Aixomoxoa outakes, or any thing from 1968. I would love to see some of the tour of the Great Pacific Northwest be released. Thanks for the post GreenMtnDead , it's encouraging.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:30

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...next Boxset , is the 5LP’s Buffalo 77’ performance on 9 sides , the 10th side is an Etching! They used the original analog tapes/ recordings which in my opinion, makes this one of the best sounding release to date on vinyl . this Vinyl release is easily included in the top 5 Primo audio records ever released by the dead & team to date. Only 7700 will be issued / released , I would Recommend every fan to buy one and even if you don’t have a turntable this just make might make you start looking for one because magical things will happen My brother and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:49

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Green Mtn Dead - I might be wrong, but I think it was part of this show that was due to come out on vinyl with that comic-Origins. It would be good to see it released on vinyl or cd.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:00

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Ha, ya they just beat up on my Royals pretty good. Young arms aren’t quite up to par yet, but I think this COVID shortened season will do them some good while providing some necessary experience on the big stage. Good luck to the Twins! As mentioned before I think the division is theirs for the taking!!!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:53

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Tasty

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:07

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Daverock -

You nailed it - The 8.21.68 show is coming with the Origins on vinyl if you get the Deluxe set. Would love to see that come out on CD (sorry, I'm just not a vinyl guy). I was surprised a year or two ago when the '80 Warfield acoustic sets that were originally RSD releases showed up as a general release. So maybe this vinyl release will show up on CD.

Crazy Fingers Crossed......

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Submitted by estimating prof on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:28

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A couple days ago I got to give Dave's 35 a focused and loud listen, and I really enjoyed it. The scarlet/fire has some really peaking moments. I had not heard this show before the release and I think it is right up there for me as a favorite from the 83 - 85 period. I think it's one of the better 80s releases that has come out. The filler from the night before is also excellent.

Can anyone recommend any other standout Scarlet/Fires from 84 or 85?

What about other great shows from 84, besides Augusta?

I listened to a Frost 85 show to get ready for this release and I enjoyed that one quite a bit also, Scarlet>Eyes!

Cheers Ya'll

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 16:04

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I believe they recorded the Pacific Northwest run on Multitrack (8 Track) in Jan/Feb 68. Didn't Lemieux mention that these 8 tracks were found in someone's attic or returned or something.. or perhaps found in a hidden pile in the vault. There is some mysterious history here that I cannot quite put my finger on. ..but if someone is talking about a release of 68 multi-tracks I got the feeling they did not release everything they had when Road Trips Vol 2 No 2 came out (2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom).

Talk of this makes my day, a new multi-track 68 release would at least in part make up for the shitstorm that 2020 has become.

Prof, agree that #35 seems by some to have become unjustly maligned. It has it's moments.

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It’s not like I’m heading to Dubai or India anytime soon, so I don’t need any escorts.
But a maul, oh man!

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Wow, that guy has everything, and he’s actively posting right now on a variety of boards.
Sounds like he knows his synthetic motor oil too.
Wonder if he could give us a review on DaP 1-35?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 17:24

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I'm gonna ask Dave one question:

"Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?"

Where is that from? Answer correctly, and you could win A NEW CAR!

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New York Dolls 1st album. It still gets played when the time is right. You may want to investigate 'A Hard Night's Day', demos for all of the first album and half of the 2nd. It has a suitably rougher sound than the official releases. Though I have many of his albums, Todd Rundgren wasn't the best choice for producing the 1st album imho.

They were quite hip in England circa 1973. Legendary appearance on the T.V show "The Old Grey Whistle Test," playing "Looking For a Kiss" and "Jet Boy"- priceless. A visibily rankled Bob Harris-the host of the show-sums them up as "mock rock".
Due to Nick Kent writing for the New Musical Express, my vision of top of the range American rock in the early 70s was formed in the image of Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Flamin' Groovies and the Dolls. All leading to Patti Smith, Televison and The Ramones in 75-76. Which gave birth to British punk. Which wasn't as good.

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Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
💀🌹

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 09:52

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I wasn’t too in to that Glam Rock scene with the Dolls, but I had a couple of friends who were pretty in to Mott The Hoople, so we ventured out to see them when they came through town in ‘74 (Kansas opened - kind of a mismatch there). Mick Ralphs had left the band then, replaced by Spooky Tooth guitarist Ariel Bender (an alias, for contractual reasons), and I have to admit, not a bad show. Ian Hunter was quite the showman.

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Yet another band who have accompanied me through life-great singles and albums. I wasn't actually into glam culture as such-just the records, which coincided with my mid teens. Alice Cooper were another American band from that era , the most visible in England , courtesy of "Schools Out", who seemed to have the right idea.

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 12:53

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Winning the 'prize' is enough! (LOL)...how about if we donate it to USPS? They can use all the help they can get...as long as it's not used to ferry Louis DeJoy back and forth to work!

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I have never been able to figure out how they decide what number of a limited edition you get. Probably because I have normally been on the wrong end of the numbering system for most limited items. I am now baffled in a good way. Decided to treat myself to a gift and ordered the Pacific Northwest box. Internet says there are less than 1500 left so I figured I better pull the trigger. Was just blessed with receiving #136 out of 15,000. I promise I won't complain about receiving high numbers anymore!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 14:54

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about Scarlet > Fire from 84 and 85

6 18 83 needs to be included

6 21 84
3 28 85
7 13 84 scarlet touch fire
4 20 84
12 31 84

3 10 81

A CM Board...

Grateful Dead
Berkeley Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA
August 24, 1972

Set 1:
d1t01 - Promised Land
d1t02 - Sugaree
d1t03 - Jack Straw
d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t05 - I Know You Rider
d1t06 - Me And My Uncle
d1t07 - Bird Song
d1t08 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t09 - Tennessee Jed
d1t10 - Playing In The Band
d2t01 - Casey Jones

Set 2:
d2t02 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
d2t03 - Mexicali Blues
d2t04 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t05 - Truckin'
d2t06 - Dark Star ->
d2t07 - Morning Dew
d3t01 - Sugar Magnolia
d3t02 - Ramble On Rose
d3t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d3t04 - Sing Me Back Home
d3t05 - One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
d3t06 - Uncle John's Band

Assuming that the lower number Boxes get put together first, they would also be on the first pallets loaded during manufacturing, and then placed somewhere in the warehouse with other pallets in front of them. Distribution then starts at the higher numbers which came off the assembly line later and the pallets sit in front of the pallets with lower numbers. They then start shipping the higher numbers and work toward the lower numbers.
Your hesitation paid off.

Of course, CD 00001 gets dropped on a spindle, and 00002 gets dropped on top of it, and it keeps going.
CD 22000, which sits at the top of the pile after manufacturing, gets put in CD holder 00001, assuming that the number gets printed right before the shrink wrap goes on.

To further complicate things, if more than one production line is running, say 4 lines for a 20000 unit release, then there are 4 ‘first-units’.

When people fill orders they just grab off of the pile, most likely with no thought of the number they are giving you.

This is pure speculation, I am not a paid attorney spokesperson.

Congrats on the low number!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 16:36

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Apparently the trolls are still running wild on this string and you know who you are. Don't take the bait!

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