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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #111
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    Small venues

    Patti Smith, Princeton
    Hot Tuna, Starlight in LA, an open floor with about 200 people
    Television, possibly Starlight again, 100 people, man could Verlaine play
    Canned Heat, high school dance
    Henry Kaiser, Cal Tech, 200 people, also can really play

    Do front rows for Dead or Garcia Band count? A number, but never enough....

    Edit/add; Captain Beefheart at a movie theater; best 'band come on stage and start playing to get crowd riled up for entrance of star', all in about 45 seconds. You went from sitting in a theater with low lights waiting to 'where the heck have we been transported to?'

  • #112
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    “And then more stories…

    “And then more stories started coming in from other people who you had BS'd. Overpriced merchandise being sold through dead net. Incomplete orders. People who gave you brand new CDs out of pity for the deadhead with cancer that you turned around and sold.”
    This statement of your is a bag of wind and a total false Lying, slander is what it is. I never had one prosit he anyone on this forum for except One Member! One member do you understand that.its not hard to understand your repeated posts of false allegations you accuse me of and you Even mention other members Have complaints about me.your wrong about me, show me all these dishonest remarks you accuse me of! Except that pne member who was telling me I had to give him a free gift for purchasing an item and when I said “no!” He and this member alone made up stories about my humanity which are completely false!
    Please show me all these accusations in a post. Tell me, show me and prove your accusations and All these members you say had problems with me! Show me your prof! Just one! Besides the One member started all this slander and outrageous lies and now like some kind of conspiracy which involves my medical disabilities using my disabilities to get free products or petty sorry dude but that’s just not it! Everything else is just a made up march of this ridiculous actions! Your actions are false and full of Lies ! Pure lies.
    Not one piece of evidence shows otherwise. That pm you posted about wanting to get free CDs from you and I demand such actions so I would tell what was the next future releases concerning the Grateful Dead. It’s completely just downright awful to accuse me of such actions. The picture you posted is incomplete and missed used to add more false accusations & slander! Just a bag of wind ! I’m finished talking to you too, peace be with you!

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    Robert Hunter in some small room in Seattle...

    man...that was...when?

    also, there used to be a place in the Ballard neighborhood in Seattle called the Backstage: Phish in 1991; Allen Ginsberg, Ray Manzarek, Michael McClure in...?

  • #114
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    Back with small venues...big shows

    Alvarhanso... I have seen25-30 shows at Ziggy's from 1994-1997. Again another legendary small club. I did some post-graduate work in Winston-Salem. I wrote a few days back about my friends in Brother Cane, I think they played either 2 or 3 times while I was there.. Of course, I wrote about seeing them in Charlotte, at the amphitheater, the other day. The date of the Brother Cane Van Halen show was September 1, 1995. Other bands I saw there included Dave Matthews, and Edwin McCain. Some of you might remember that I got sick unto death a fews years back where I was in a coma for a while. Unfortunately, my memory since then struggles some, so I can't remember all I saw there. Of course, most were local or regional acts.

    Any way, I wrote the other day about seeing Steve Morse and Kenny Neal at a small dive in my hometown. The place was called The Tip Top Cafe. After I wrote about it I did some research about and found an article on it. I have been hesitant to post because of various reasons. I have decided to post the article. This was a true dive bar dump, or should I say my favorite dump. Ooops. In the article it states that the building was sold in 2013 for $15,000. As part of my memory problems, I had forgotten I went to the auction on the last day the doors were open and my bid was $8,000. I had thought about bringing shows back as another friend is a decent sized concert promoter around here. Again hate to do it, but will write about him some other time. The building had lost it's certificate of occupancy, one step before condemnation. I know the gentleman that bought it and he has cleaned it up, external paint, etc. but it remains w/out a certificate of occupancy still. He said to expensive to open as one of the load bearing external walls is leaning in. Any way, between 1986 and 1994 I spent probably between 150 and 200 nights there and saw a lot of fun bands. Many nights I did not go in, just hung out in the small shakedown across the road (barely a road.)

    Real quick, some back history. Starting in the early 70's my dad would take my brother and I to eat lunch there every 6-8 weeks. Just good ole greasy bbq. As stated in the article, the place did not become a dive until 1986.

    If any one needs a 15 minute read to kill some time, here is the article on this previous dive.

    https://www.al.com/entertainment/2016/07/tip_top_cafe_the_saga_of_legen…

    G

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    My favorite Anniversary

    Well, I get to have a total Green Day and enjoy the 31 anniversary of my last show. I have planned for several years to write about Hampton 89, and meant to do it last year on the 30th anniversay. The problem is there is so much to write, I need to write it in a text editor before posting on here. I will get to it.

    I also need to write about what I have called my last push. A push of course meaning a lot of travel to see shows. Know most have been down that road. I wrote about my previous push going to the 88 Greek shows on their 30th anniversary. And how I did it by flying east coast and back while only missing one day at work, the Friday of the first show. I was back at work on Monday morning. I wrote about a cab driver that drove me from San Fran to the airport and that he was from close to where I lived. He really encouraged me to not get on the plane and stay in the bay area, permanently. Over the last two years I have really allowed that to sink in deep. It has been troubling to realize how my life would have been so much different if I had stayed. But also, that you can't ever look back but push onward. If I had stayed, I would have missed some other incredible moments (like probably Hampton 89). I will write about this third and final push soon, without waiting for its anniversary.

    But today and tonight is about cranking Hampton 89. It is amazing how good it sounds blasting from my Big Boy Stereo. I have written before, it shakes my hardwoods. Can't wait.

    Thing is for today I have some other things to wrap up. More later...

  • #116
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    Remembering Lennon's 80th birthday today....

    https://youtu.be/nci7OoEq4Vg
    ....Jerry & Merle covering Imagine. Grate stuff.
    Also, Blue Oyster Cult is releasing their first record in 19 years today. The Symbol Remains. Love the cover.
    Spoiler alert. It's really good. I give it 8 umlauts out of 10.

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    LMG I think it's your latest BS story to Butch

    Guy asked for a simple explanation to a simple statement you made. Your statement of course was related to this imposter identity you've created for yourself in which you are an inside Grateful Dead associate. I offered you the Fillmore West box set and spent many hours trying to convert it from FLAC which I didn't really have the time to do but I felt sorry for you because you said you were blind with cancer. It was you who began offering advanced information on what the box set would be that year, well after I offered you the CDs. You eventually PM'd me, and I quote

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    07/07/2019 - 11:36
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    Lovemygirl

    What happened to my CDs???
    You forgot about that or you just wanted info?!!!

    Subject Where’s my CDs ???

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    My partial answer to in the PM

    07/09/2019 - 17:36
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    Mind-Left-Body

    You were not answering my posts. I do not know your address. The dead net PM Inbox only holds 10 messages and you gave me your address a long time ago. You think I spent time trying to get those CDs burned for info LMAO. You told me you would let me know what the box set was several weeks ago at this point. You said it would only be a couple more days. That time has long since passed, so that makes you a liar in my book.
    ********************************

    And you kept it up over time. "Just a few more days. Next week I will be able to reveal." I think now you were just making it all up in an effort to get me to keep up my attempts at converting from FLAC. I even posted to the board here to see if anyone knew how to do it. And then more stories started coming in from other people who you had BS'd. Overpriced merchandise being sold through dead net. Incomplete orders. People who gave you brand new CDs out of pity for the deadhead with cancer that you turned around and sold.

    Everyone is tired of being conned by you. I think it was Butch used a word I never heard before. Gas lighting. I looked it up and man that is what you do. Even now in your response to Caseyjanes you have attempted to turn the tables and make it sound like it was all in his imagination.

    And what a joke that you scolded Butch for quoting a much less obscure quote with the word p**** in it (Eddie Murphy Trading Places) because your daughter reads these pages and found it offensive. At least that was a comedy skit. But it's okay for her to read you "jokingly" threaten to bring a guy out back and beat the s*** out of him. You're so full of it it's coming out of your ears. 🙏✌❤😇🙏

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    1/3/69 vinyl and 1970

    That's the one for me, too. My favourite show of that incredible run. Hopefully it will be released next year.

    I have been listening to some old shows I recorded online from sources like Dead Show of the Month, Shakedown Stream etc. I could only record them in 79 minute "chunks"- with no separation between tracks. So if I stopped listening to a cd half way through, I had to go back to the beginning again. Not very satisfactory, but I used to drive long journeys up to about 7 years ago, and they fit the bill then.
    The reason I am telling you this fascinating story is that there seem to be a few 1970 shows in there-I have played 6/6/70, 10/31/70, 5/24/70 and 9/19/70 in the last day or so - all really powerful shows. They all sound pretty good, too-maybe not A1, but they would make great official releases, to my way of thinking, despite this. Sometimes a song might end abruptly, and they might not be complete shows-details of no, or little, import for shows of this vintage.

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    Can’t recall them mentioned here before. What a great band. I was a huge fan of From Good Homes before RE formed.

    RE played a local club, must have been 20 years ago. They were fairly new band at that time. I somehow got the starting time wrong. So I show up and nobody was there except the band. I grabbed a beer and went into the back room where they were setting up and asked if I could hang out. No problem. Had two or three beers watching the soundcheck by myself before folks began to filter in. Tremendous show.

    Other small club highlights - a few hundred or less. Hootie and the Blowfish, Blue Rodeo, and the Freddy Jones Band.

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    Is 10/24. Was just wondering when the hell this was coming out, since it was announced way back before the universe imploded, and a use of the google machine yielded the result of it coming out in 2 weeks. And one is already on the ebays for 299.99, since you probably want to buy an unreleased product for 2.5x the list price. Now that that's settled, when is 3/1/69 being released on vinyl? That's my favorite of that magical run for that Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven intro into an utterly devastating That's It For the Other One opener. That must be what Latvala was talking about when he described cowering in the bathroom while Phil Lesh assaulted his acid-soaked ears.

    For small venue big performance wins, Railroad Earth on their first visit to NC at the Pour House in Raleigh with about 10 other people (capacity a few hundred), all of whom were quite impressed by that magnificent band; at the much missed Ziggy's in Winston-Salem I saw all number of bands with it packed to the gills for Dark Star Orchestra (1/14/78) to a few dozen people for bands like Rob Barraco's Dragonflys with a certain Jimmy Herring on guitar, and me and other Jimmy freaks standing right in front of him slack-jawed all night. Particularly noteworthy that night was Jimmy destroying Kid Charlemagne, after which I dryly complimented him with "That was pretty good." Causing him to bust out laughing. He knew he slayed it. Others seen at Ziggy's: Del McCoury Band, John Scofield a few times, once each with Derek Trucks Band and Susan Tedeschi Band opening, plus an evening of Derek's band and Susan's band when they had just started dating, I believe; he came up to sit in with her on My Man, and I got their autographs on the setlist, the Disco Biscuits 4x, the first they did the entire Hot Air Balloon rock opera as a 2 and a half hour second set, Sam Bush Band, Sex Mob (killer jazz band led by Steve Bernstein), Medeski, Martin, & Wood, and many others. But my dad saw The Ramones there. Which is about as cool as it gets.

    One more incredibly intimate show was a super jam of Leftover Salmon boys Drew Emmitt, Mark Vann RIP), Magraw Gap guys Danny Knicely, Larry Keel, and Will Lee with David Via and others picking right next to my tent in the festival workers area at Smilefest in 2001. I came back from a campfire pick with Vince Herman, who was driving a golf cart madly and blindly through the woods at 4am, occasionally turning on the headlights, frightening even more people when he did so. We careened back through the woods to find those guys sitting by my tent killing it with maybe 25 people still awake checking it out. That was a fantastic cap to an amazing weekend.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:00

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12/3/79

I have the show on as background music for an on-line training where I just have to listen.

Terrapin allllmost comes to a complete stop.

sounds a group of sloths playing

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: much love to you; so sad you got "Horse" disease. A true tragedy.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:21

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isn't heading Boris Johnson's house??

And Vguy, please don't stop the "jokes"... it's the little things now and a silly smile is worth a million [fill in whether you value love or money and state the denomination...]

A penguin is driving down the road and can feel something is not right with his car...he sees a repair shop and pulls in...he tells the mechanic something's wrong but I'm not sure what...the mechanic tells him "ok give me about an hour to check it out"...the penguin goes out on the street, looks around and sees an ice cream shop...he goes in and orders an extra large dish of vanilla bean ice cream and starts dipping his beak into it, enjoying the ice cream...later on he goes back to the repair shop, the mechanic looks up from what he is doing and tells the penguin "looks like you blew a seal"...the penguin shrugs, wipes his bill on his shoulder and sez "Nah, it's only ice cream..."

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Submitted by Gollum on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 22:43

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mm...okay, that's pretty good-

Always loved a good joke, thanks for the laughter, it feels grateful! ... What would you rather have? a five dollar foot long or a free 8 inches?
I’m sorry, that’s the last joke I ever tell. Love them just don’t have any...lol

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 04:54

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“It’s too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin’ around here”

-Billy Madison

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 08:34

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Moses, my apologies! I forgot what your avatar was and started using it a few months back when I made my first trip through the E72 box and saw the cover for 5/18. I've changed it now, as you can see. Can't show up at prom in the same dress as someone else! How gauche.

SJButler--I would also get Charlie's Angels trading cards, even though I had never been allowed to watch the show. I eventually traded for a card that had Farah standing naked behind a bush, which was the best card anyone at our school had.

I was at a party in the B.C. times (Before Covid), and these two guys were talking about how they were sure that the original Star Wars (yes, I had trading cards of that, too) came out in 1979. After a while I calmly stated, "The original SW came out on 5/25/77." The only reason I know that is because of DaP1. The one guy kind of accepted that, but the other (who had been busy all night brashly telling everyone all the "facts" in his head) glared at me and said, "I think it came out in 1979." I demurely said, "You may think that, but you'll be wrong . . . " with a little bit of tease in my voice. I was about to tell them how I had that date memorized, but the know-it-all glared harder at me and stormed off before I could explain how I wasn't being rude but was just trying to needle him a bit. Oh, well. The other people grinned, as they had grown tired of the blowhard anyway.

p.s. Casey--How 'bout them Twins, eh? :)

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 09:46

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Couple days late on this but did anybody listen to TIGDH on SiriusXM a couple days ago? Dave was talking about some 8 track recordings From ‘68 that were ultimately set aside when the then state of the art 16 track machines came out. Dave went on to say that we’d be seeing these 8 track recordings “soon”. He didn’t give much more and I got the impression it would more of a one off release vs a full box set or anything. Maybe a RSD release or something but that was my take and he was off the subject within a few seconds. The date of these specific recordings was 8.21.68 but assume there are more multitrack tapes from the same effort.

Did anybody else hear the same thing?

What ever it is it would be great. I went back and loaded up the Tahoe Bowl stuff from February ‘68 (DiP 22 of I’m thinking of correctly). Smoking stuff!

Seems like there is a bunch of pending stuff (AB50, Dap 36, maybe a fall box???) so maybe what I heard was more what I wanted to hear Dave say....

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:26

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I didn't hear Dave talking about it, but maybe he was referring to the Aoxomoxoa outakes. I believe they started recording in 8 track and then 16 track came along and they started over. I would love it if they released the Aixomoxoa outakes, or any thing from 1968. I would love to see some of the tour of the Great Pacific Northwest be released. Thanks for the post GreenMtnDead , it's encouraging.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:30

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...next Boxset , is the 5LP’s Buffalo 77’ performance on 9 sides , the 10th side is an Etching! They used the original analog tapes/ recordings which in my opinion, makes this one of the best sounding release to date on vinyl . this Vinyl release is easily included in the top 5 Primo audio records ever released by the dead & team to date. Only 7700 will be issued / released , I would Recommend every fan to buy one and even if you don’t have a turntable this just make might make you start looking for one because magical things will happen My brother and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:49

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Green Mtn Dead - I might be wrong, but I think it was part of this show that was due to come out on vinyl with that comic-Origins. It would be good to see it released on vinyl or cd.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:00

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Ha, ya they just beat up on my Royals pretty good. Young arms aren’t quite up to par yet, but I think this COVID shortened season will do them some good while providing some necessary experience on the big stage. Good luck to the Twins! As mentioned before I think the division is theirs for the taking!!!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:53

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Tasty

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:07

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Daverock -

You nailed it - The 8.21.68 show is coming with the Origins on vinyl if you get the Deluxe set. Would love to see that come out on CD (sorry, I'm just not a vinyl guy). I was surprised a year or two ago when the '80 Warfield acoustic sets that were originally RSD releases showed up as a general release. So maybe this vinyl release will show up on CD.

Crazy Fingers Crossed......

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Submitted by estimating prof on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:28

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A couple days ago I got to give Dave's 35 a focused and loud listen, and I really enjoyed it. The scarlet/fire has some really peaking moments. I had not heard this show before the release and I think it is right up there for me as a favorite from the 83 - 85 period. I think it's one of the better 80s releases that has come out. The filler from the night before is also excellent.

Can anyone recommend any other standout Scarlet/Fires from 84 or 85?

What about other great shows from 84, besides Augusta?

I listened to a Frost 85 show to get ready for this release and I enjoyed that one quite a bit also, Scarlet>Eyes!

Cheers Ya'll

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 16:04

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I believe they recorded the Pacific Northwest run on Multitrack (8 Track) in Jan/Feb 68. Didn't Lemieux mention that these 8 tracks were found in someone's attic or returned or something.. or perhaps found in a hidden pile in the vault. There is some mysterious history here that I cannot quite put my finger on. ..but if someone is talking about a release of 68 multi-tracks I got the feeling they did not release everything they had when Road Trips Vol 2 No 2 came out (2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom).

Talk of this makes my day, a new multi-track 68 release would at least in part make up for the shitstorm that 2020 has become.

Prof, agree that #35 seems by some to have become unjustly maligned. It has it's moments.

Now there’s some spam one can use.
How else would I know the difference between an axe and a maul?

https://www.dead.net/forum/log

It’s not like I’m heading to Dubai or India anytime soon, so I don’t need any escorts.
But a maul, oh man!

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Wow, that guy has everything, and he’s actively posting right now on a variety of boards.
Sounds like he knows his synthetic motor oil too.
Wonder if he could give us a review on DaP 1-35?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 17:24

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I'm gonna ask Dave one question:

"Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?"

Where is that from? Answer correctly, and you could win A NEW CAR!

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New York Dolls 1st album. It still gets played when the time is right. You may want to investigate 'A Hard Night's Day', demos for all of the first album and half of the 2nd. It has a suitably rougher sound than the official releases. Though I have many of his albums, Todd Rundgren wasn't the best choice for producing the 1st album imho.

They were quite hip in England circa 1973. Legendary appearance on the T.V show "The Old Grey Whistle Test," playing "Looking For a Kiss" and "Jet Boy"- priceless. A visibily rankled Bob Harris-the host of the show-sums them up as "mock rock".
Due to Nick Kent writing for the New Musical Express, my vision of top of the range American rock in the early 70s was formed in the image of Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Flamin' Groovies and the Dolls. All leading to Patti Smith, Televison and The Ramones in 75-76. Which gave birth to British punk. Which wasn't as good.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 03:57

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Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
💀🌹

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 09:52

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I wasn’t too in to that Glam Rock scene with the Dolls, but I had a couple of friends who were pretty in to Mott The Hoople, so we ventured out to see them when they came through town in ‘74 (Kansas opened - kind of a mismatch there). Mick Ralphs had left the band then, replaced by Spooky Tooth guitarist Ariel Bender (an alias, for contractual reasons), and I have to admit, not a bad show. Ian Hunter was quite the showman.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 11:26

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Yet another band who have accompanied me through life-great singles and albums. I wasn't actually into glam culture as such-just the records, which coincided with my mid teens. Alice Cooper were another American band from that era , the most visible in England , courtesy of "Schools Out", who seemed to have the right idea.

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 12:53

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Winning the 'prize' is enough! (LOL)...how about if we donate it to USPS? They can use all the help they can get...as long as it's not used to ferry Louis DeJoy back and forth to work!

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Submitted by Tramjams on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 14:12

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I have never been able to figure out how they decide what number of a limited edition you get. Probably because I have normally been on the wrong end of the numbering system for most limited items. I am now baffled in a good way. Decided to treat myself to a gift and ordered the Pacific Northwest box. Internet says there are less than 1500 left so I figured I better pull the trigger. Was just blessed with receiving #136 out of 15,000. I promise I won't complain about receiving high numbers anymore!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 14:54

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about Scarlet > Fire from 84 and 85

6 18 83 needs to be included

6 21 84
3 28 85
7 13 84 scarlet touch fire
4 20 84
12 31 84

3 10 81

A CM Board...

Grateful Dead
Berkeley Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA
August 24, 1972

Set 1:
d1t01 - Promised Land
d1t02 - Sugaree
d1t03 - Jack Straw
d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t05 - I Know You Rider
d1t06 - Me And My Uncle
d1t07 - Bird Song
d1t08 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t09 - Tennessee Jed
d1t10 - Playing In The Band
d2t01 - Casey Jones

Set 2:
d2t02 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
d2t03 - Mexicali Blues
d2t04 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t05 - Truckin'
d2t06 - Dark Star ->
d2t07 - Morning Dew
d3t01 - Sugar Magnolia
d3t02 - Ramble On Rose
d3t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d3t04 - Sing Me Back Home
d3t05 - One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
d3t06 - Uncle John's Band

Assuming that the lower number Boxes get put together first, they would also be on the first pallets loaded during manufacturing, and then placed somewhere in the warehouse with other pallets in front of them. Distribution then starts at the higher numbers which came off the assembly line later and the pallets sit in front of the pallets with lower numbers. They then start shipping the higher numbers and work toward the lower numbers.
Your hesitation paid off.

Of course, CD 00001 gets dropped on a spindle, and 00002 gets dropped on top of it, and it keeps going.
CD 22000, which sits at the top of the pile after manufacturing, gets put in CD holder 00001, assuming that the number gets printed right before the shrink wrap goes on.

To further complicate things, if more than one production line is running, say 4 lines for a 20000 unit release, then there are 4 ‘first-units’.

When people fill orders they just grab off of the pile, most likely with no thought of the number they are giving you.

This is pure speculation, I am not a paid attorney spokesperson.

Congrats on the low number!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 16:36

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Apparently the trolls are still running wild on this string and you know who you are. Don't take the bait!

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