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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6691

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6692

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6693

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6694

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6695

bob t

Joined:
November 21, 2007

only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6696

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
December 29, 2015

Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6697

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6698

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!
June 27, 2020 - 10:20am

#6699

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Not a drop on me...

but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.
June 27, 2020 - 9:47am

#6700

Oroborous

Joined:
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TOGA!

Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

420

West Coast Time, be careful with your smokes

Shakedown Stream preshow 8/27

What if Dave used that to do the first ever live announcement of a new release?
Like a Summer 72 Box, since it’s assumed that the Stream will be 8-27-72.

Visionary

Me likes that concept

Road Trips Volume 1 number 2..... 10/77

I always listen to the first set, listening to CD 2, wow 17 minute Playing to open followed by a good other one.... what a pleasant surprise i have to say !!!! Be good everyone.... bob t.....
P.S. I hope your 72 predictions are right!!!!

Shakedown Stream

Interesting news Strider. Hope you all are right.

The big question is, has Glasser stopped working on Jim's roof?

If so, we might have something.

By the way, we need a pick.

Bells Octoberfest is in the house!

Enjoy the Octoberfest DV

I didn’t see any at the store the other day. Grabbed a case of Oberon, probably the last one from that store this season.

I think that Glasser finished the roof and now Jim has him installing a thumping stereo system in that empty beer truck he still has parked behind the garage.

I’m up earlier than usual for a Saturday, half way through a large cup of super dark roast, think I’ll make the pick.

And the winner is......
Tomorrow’s anniversary
8-23-87, with Carlos on a couple of songs.

Edit:
I didn’t pick 8-22 solely because it wasn’t in the CD holder that is in my living room. I have newer versions of both shows on HD’s, but they currently aren’t on the microSDXC cards in my music player. So I went with the CD-R’s that I burned years ago.

Feel free to do either or both of the shows. We’re flexible here.

8/23/87

Looks like a great show. I am on it. Box of Rain opener.

Thanks for the pick Conekid.

Oberon is done here in MN, which is a bummer. That Octoberfest is a good replacement.

Say thank you Carlos

Carlos Santana with the Dead on a couple songs. “Say thank you Carlos”, Bob Weir. Will have to check out 8/23/87. Also Road Trips , Volume 1 Number 2 is excellent and includes the Dead’s second New Mexico appearance. Jam of the week has filled in some of the gaps. Full soundboard must be in house.

Strange occurrences on the desert. Been reading some Science Fiction lately and started reading The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury a couple days ago. Mind you have not read it since I was 12 years old back in the mid 60s. So yesterday I google Ray Bradbury and read that today would have been his 100th birthday. Enter Twilight Zone theme. Who are the Grateful Dead and why do they keep following me.
“My God, there’s millions of stars”. Dave Bowman

Hope Love my Girl, Bolo, Ouroboros and others are good. Over the years have seen many come and go from this site. Some have passed on , some have passed through , time keeps marching on.
As Mr Natural said; “just passing through”. Or as Oat Willie said; “Onward through the fog”.

Hey Now!

Carlos has a sweet sound on that Solo during Iko, you can feel the rush just listening, dig it.

Hats off to the Good Ol Grateful Dead Hour! Turned me on to this show BITD, I can still remember sitting in front of my tape deck taping it, still have the tape. Who'd a thunk what the future would bring.

Speaking of the future, looking forward to Thursday and the anniversary of the GRATEFULest Dead Show EVER!
There's been some clever hints, winks and nods about fun stuff.

Top 5 for sure... if you're into ranking stuff, all I know is I can listen to almost any song from that show and go places, far out places, that are fun to explore. Powerful stuff.

Hope all are well and enjoying some good tunes!

PS - Thanks Gollum, good to know it's not just me who's not in real time ;)

here there and everywhere

always been a big fan of Road Trips , Volume 1 Number 2. in near synchronicity mode as I listened to first 2 discs early last week and then the bonus disc yesterday to start the work day. the bonus disc is just exactly perfect, one of my fave discs from the RT series and it was in the cd player while traveling for a long long time. i love that sequence from Albuquerque that begins with Iko > Wheel. I mean they only had played Iko once before back in that AMAZING Fox Theater show in St Louis 5/15! a show IMHO that seems to not get the love it deserves amid so many other stellar spring tour shows. Also the Let It Grow from RT, V 1 No 2 is super super fine.

Been decades probably since I listened to the '87 Angel's Camp shows with Carlos. that little festival had to have been a real hoot with David Lindley and Santana also on the bill. I'll dip into 8/23 today. '87 was a solid good year.

and just realized missed call out to 8/21/93 (and 8/22) in Eugene - super fun show. Standing On The Moon that first day was out of this world gorgeous and emotional. favorite version hands down.

and I should probably pull out Sunshine Daydream while I'm at it since I won't have a chance to participate later this week.

my long shot mini box guess is RFK '73 including the set with the Allmans. but would be very happy with some of the other suggestions floated here.

also been having issues with the most recent posts not being immediately visible even when I first open the page - my workaround is to click the sort by drop down and click "Recent" (which is already my choice) and that updates the posts. seems silly but it works.

stay safe. be well. have fun.

8-22-93

Good call Bluecrow, just started spinning it.

8.22.93....

.... I'm all over it. I was present and somewhat accounted for at that show. There were naked people. Bobby smashed his guitar. Angry Jack Straw indeed. It was the bees knees.

Is there Eugene 93 video in the Vault?

Debut it on Shakedown Stream Dave.

yeah - the angriest of jack straws

we were in the stands straight out from the stage both days - exquisite sound and sight lines. i was watching with a pair of binoculars when bobby walked off and I could see him swinging that guitar like a freaking axe and it was a complete "what in the f*** am i seeing????" Jerry just kept jamming away with his head down - curious if he knew what was going on via earbud or just that Bob had left the stage.

just flashed on a funny 8/22 related memory. excellent tapes of both shows circulated immediately afterwards as they were broadcast on the local public radio station. a few years later i was traveling with my girlfriend in the low desert. I was driving an '87 Isuzu Trooper at the time. We spent a couple days in Cabeza Prieta at the end of the trip before heading back to the NW. We exited the CP at the west end and started heading west on I-10. We were listening to 8/22 Set II. During Drumz she said I can't deal with that can you turn it off, and I did. A few miles down the road a crazy banging noise started coming out of the engine compartment. She says - I thought I asked you to turn that off?! and I'm like it IS off - that's coming out from under the hood!! We were near Yuma and pulled into a rest area. Pop the hood to find that the adjustment bolt on the alternator had snapped and the alternator is flopping wildly on the belt. Dropped some quarters in a pay phone and called a garage in Yuma. They had it tapped out and fixed by supper that evening. Spent a pleasant unplanned night in Yuma and on the road next morning. If that had happened in the CP it would have been a whole different and way more expensive story.

Bobby's best Townsend impersonation....

....we were slightly stage right and approx 60 feet back on the floor. Yahhhh!!

*RE/ strider

Excellent post,Also with you my friend! Grateful to see & read your posts As always, rock on brother! I’m stuck in dicks picks #28 for the past 3 days, my cat lock’d me in! Ha ha lol
Tomorrow I’ll be spinning Buffalo 77! I look forward to listen this release thru my tube system
🙏❤️💀🌹

Check out 3/19/77 Set II in this weeks Tapers Section

Dave throws this set up once a year....Eyes>Dancing>Wharf Rat>Franklin's Tower>Sugar Magnolia....nice little jam between Eyes and Dancing, early on sounds a tad like Comes A Time might be popping up.. very different feel than a few weeks prior at the Swing with the Phil Jam between Eyes and Dancing... Yes 5 song Set II (Two encores) also, but what 5 great songs....be good... bob t

Palindromes, Ray Bradbury

Someone asked me if I love palindromes. Yes, ever since the release of AoxomoxoA, 6/21/69.
Also while reading The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (he would have turned 100 August 22, 2020) yesterday I came across the passage “way up in the middle of the air”. From the Bible apparently.
Another palindrome;
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Today's Pick

How does 9/3/1980 sound to you all? Download series #7. Extra credit for partial show on 9/4/1980.

OK With Me

9/30 works.. spending a quality day on my roof until the temperature decides otherwise... Might as well have some upbeat 1980 to keep the spirits high.

9.3.80 you say?....

....I'm all in.

* Re/ Deadvikes & the download series

I wish I had a computer & actually know how to use it. I grew up in a time of typewriters lol I really wish I could get them on CDs, I believe there was only 12 total releases issued by download only, very much like the new studio crecordings of WMD “ angels” release in studio sessions . Made available.
Man, I wish I wasn’t so Technological handicap.
I would love to get all 12 shows to add to my collection. I’ll keep praying for a miracle , who knows , maybe someday soon ;the Grateful Dead will release all 12 downloads into a physical Boxset one fine grateful day! I would buy it in a hart beat ! Lol 💀🌹🙏😉

Re: Massage Spam

I feel dirty.. Hope MaryE does some housecleaning...

1980, 1977, 1969 & 1966

I did some extra credit first and 9/4/80 is a great listen, looking forward to 9/3/80 a little later.

The March '77 shows would be a cool release. Home turf at Winterland sure seems to bring out the best in the boys, that PITB > Samson > PITB at the end of Set 1 of 3/19 is dreamy.

Strider is that a quote from Bradbury? Far out!

I read Kesey's The Further Inquiry the other day, that's some far out stuff too, had to watch the Magic Trip to go along with it, now I'm digging into the Electric Kool Aid Acid Tests... getting ready for Thursday ;)

Recommended Pandemic Reading & Viewing for anybody that enjoys that type of stuff.

Alright, time to go Further!

Shakedown Stream August 27, 2020

Special guests for pre-show, Ken Babbs and Sue Kesey. Please get the word out there.
Veneta, Oregon was an amazing place to see the Grateful Dead, especially August 27, 1972. August 28,1982 was quite different but also magical. These are golden memories. The Springfield Creamery and Health Food and Pool Store was quite the operation back in the 70s. There was a pool table elevated above the food bins below a skylight. We could play pool for free. I remember a couple days after the 72 Veneta Dead show seeing Ken Kesey, his brother Chuck and Ken Babbs shooting pool on the old famed pool table.
I bought a couple quarts of Nancy’s Yogurt in Silver City today to prepare for the Thursday broadcast of Sunshine Daydream. Great way to finish out summer and Shakedown Stream. Hats off to all who helped to pull this together, Adrian Marin, Ken Babbs, Sue Kesey, Sheryl Kesey Thompson, and all the hard working people at the Springfield Creamery along with Gary Lambert, David Lemieux, Doran Tyson, Marty Dolan and all the hard working people at Rhino Records in beautiful downtown Burbank.
The dream lives!

Dubai Spa

Jim, I thought they were supposed to send you a PM, not a post.

Looking forward to Thursday Strider. You were there, that is cool. Can't imagine.

Is that box announcement still coming?

Strider is Pole Guy???!!!!!

That’s awesome

Don’t forget 8-25-72 anniversary today.

9/3/1980

Love the variety you get with 1980. This show hits it for me. Half Step Franklins to start, yes! Really like this Althea and Brokedown Palace. He's Gone, Truckin, Black Peter, oh yeah! Sound quality on this one is A++. Super solid release. More 1980 would be great.

9/3/80

I like Brent's vocals on the outro to Deal on this one. Check out the China>Rider from the day before (Rochester). There's some interesting things going there vocally, too. This time between Jerry and Bob.

1980 / Random Musings

Love this year, the halfway point for the band.

Reflected on releases from this year this morning sipping on my Morning Brew:

Deadset, Dead Ahead, Reckoning, etc. all excellent, multitrack recordings.

Go To Nassau, 10/9/80 & 10/10/80 - Same as above

Road Trips, Volume 3 No 4 - Penn State and Barton Hall. Great songs and performances but the recording to me sounds a little thin and tinny. I put that in the Road Trips cassette master snafu category.

11/28/80 Lakeland FL - Sounds a little warmer than Barton Hall and Penn State, but still lacking a touch in fullness and richness. Still, has nice, clean sound and a good feel to it.

11/29/80 - Board segments have surfaced, the second set soundboard circulates and segments of the first set have been played by Lemieux on jam of the week. Some of the audience tapes that circulate are works of art. To be continued I guess, stay tuned. Would love to see a Matrix type effort and become an official release.

11/30/80 Fox Theatre - the Holy Grail of 2 track 1980 recordings/releases. The perfect marriage of the thinner boards of the year with the full sound of a truly great audience master. Hats off and many thanks to Dr. Bob Wagner for his contribution.

I would love to see more efforts like Dave's Picks 8, 11/30 Fox Theatre. That's the best sounding solution to the lacking cassette masters from the year and currently my personal favorite 1980 release or as I started spinning this while writing up this post.. more accurately stated as the last 1980 show I have listened to. As Tony the Tiger would say, It's Great!!!

One last nod goes to the unsung hero, Jim Wise for his audience contributions to I think the Lakeland show which was released and no credit given for his aud patch. Another great 1980 audience tape. I think I have this right.. I think it was Jim Wise and I think it was the Lakeland show, but I could be wrong about the exact show this happened on.

Ok.. coming off a bit of a health scare, thankfully not covid and something modern medicine is quite capable of treating.. I am trying to venture on a little bicycle, music adventure before it gets too hot with my new music toy. I took advantage of my down time by taking up some free advice Cone Kid gave six months or so ago.. I upgraded an old, used IPod Classic I bought of Amazon a couple years ago that unfortunately suffered from a bad heart (battery). I upgraded it myself and replaced both the battery and the hard drive using IFlash Memory instead of the old, standard hard drives they used to contain. Powered by 4, 256 Gig MicroSD Chips that are super small and light. So I now have a 1TB IPod both works like new and has literally every single GD show I have imported / Ripped / downloaded into my digital world. 10,000 songs.. would take more than a year of solid listening 24/7 to get through the whole thing and the sick part.. I still have 450 gigs of free space left.

If you picked the best recording of every show (officially released and the best version that circulates) and stored it as either Flac or ALAC (lossless but compressed) I believe you could fit every single Dead Show that circulates on this device that fits in the palm of my hand. I am calling it Podzilla. Many thanks to Cone Kid for the dead.net tip of the day six months ago. So 30 years of live GD music on the go, and off I go..

Have a great day, stay cool and best of luck to our friends in the Southern Gulf States (and Western Mexico) that are about to get hit with a couple (few) hurricanes any day now. A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall. Did someone say 1972?

This Morning's Listen (for me)

Going with 11/28/80, Lakeland.

If we have already done this show, guessing we did at some point I was absent that day so consider this a makeup test day. Like the sirens sweetly singing, this one called to me this morning.

Hope you all have a great day... I'm off like a prom dress.

Pole dude & 1980

I believe that was Gary Jenson. Been passed on a few years. I was real wild as a teenager but not quite that wild. I had my clothes on at both 1972 Veneta and 1982 Veneta. Maybe it was my puritanical New England upbringing.
1980, any complete recordings of the acoustic set Dead shows from that year should be considered holy grail material, Radio City, The Warfield and the two New Orleans shows with acoustic sets. Between the two years 1970 and 1980 plus the two or three December 81 acoustic sets with Joan Baez I have counted 70 something shows with acoustic Dead.
Shakedown Stream tomorrow, I’m preparing like a Saturn Rocket on the launch pad. 🚀

1980 and Veneta

Strider, yes, the Warfield and Radio City shows in fall of 1980 are very special in the Dead's history and I am hoping for a miracle. Do you believe in miracles in 1980? Yes!

Jim, yes we hit up the Lakeland show earlier, but another listen is always welcome.

Veneta tomorrow!

Be well folks.

Jim

Glad you are ok!! Bob t

Podzilla

It’s a good thing to have.

Mine also has 4 x 256 GB microSDXC cards. Says 953 GB available, so it must be saving quite a few GB’s for storage info.
I also have an iBasso DX80 (worked great for about 2 years then died) and an iBasso DX120 (bought it before the DX80 died). Both have dual microSDXC slots that can each take 1 TB cards, but the iBasso user interface is pretty crappy, glitchy, and often slow to respond.
The iPod software is still superior even though it’s close to 15 years old. Glad I converted it to Podzilla.

Safari So Good

Just got word, test zoom for tomorrow’s Shakedown Stream went well. Pass the word, “Have you heard the Dead brother!!” Or maybe it was more like a satanical puritanical New England upbringing.

Pick of the day?

8/27/72 , be it old bootleg cassette, Sunshine Daydream old bootleg VHS, Unofficial DVD, Official Rhino 2013 release CD/DVD or CD/blue ray. Or stream?

Years ago it was a prized and favorite bootleg cassette tape.
Pick of the day was a brilliant idea from Bolo. Keep it rolling.

Veneta

I'm in. The funny thing with GD music, and I doubt I am alone.. some songs congeal and some pass right through me at any point in time. The Dark Star was never my favorite, but I love the China>Rider and PITB from this show.

...but all it takes is one receptive moment and the right music playing at the right time and I suddenly 'get' something that used to pass right through me. ..and there are the old songs that used to be key that I have moved on from.

Still, Veneta was always a favorite, I just got sucked into the PITB and the transition in the China Rider more than the Dark Star. I think because Jerry teased Morning Dew and Bob telegraphed El Paso and I always wondered what could have been.

A great show and both well recorded and documented.

So if Strider was wearing his clothes, it should be easy to pick him out. I only recall one person fully clothed in the whole movie, I'll be sure to be looking out for ya tonight, Strider..

Thanks so much for posting and giving us some context.

Third set, Veneta

I talked my way backstage. My brother had been on the planks next to cameraman John Norris during the second set and let me take his place. Playin’ reprise in the film is the music only, film footage is from the third set. I’m on the planks turning around and waving at friends. It’s the shot from that log tree house.
I love Bird Song big time, also China Cat into I know you rider may be one of the most uplifting moments in the history of music.
As for Dark Star performances I saw live that I love, 9/19/70 and 2/18/71 were perhaps tops. Winter/Spring 1969 Dark Star may be some of the most classic of all time. I didn’t start seeing the Dead until January 1970. The evolution of Dark Star is phenomenal. But I was directly in front of Jerry for the third set. August 27, 1972 stands out as one of the most amazing days of my life.
As far as being naked in 1972, swimming (skinny dipping) in the really warm water of Lookout Point Reservoir that summer was no big deal. High School graduation (class of 72) , moving to Oregon, the old days of Eugene, Grateful Dead and being 18 were the most liberating rights of passage I could have ever hoped for. I thank my lucky Dark Stars for those experiences.

8/27/72

My favorite Sing Me Back Home, hands down.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

When I first moved to Portland in mid-late 90s, I met a group of heads that got together every Wednesday night to trade tapes. They were always talking about Veneta.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

Finally I was like, so what’s Veneta?

Gasp!! They were shocked with my lack of knowledge. Legendary Oregon Dead show? Springfield Creamery Benefit? Kesey & The Merry Pranksters? Oregon Country Fair? They quickly flipped me a tape, winked, nodded and smiled.

First I was amazed at the sound quality. This tape sounded better than any of the tapes I had. These Oregon heads! Not only did they have great weed, great beer, but my God, the Tapes! (I’m pretty sure this was 1996ish, so before internet trading for me). Hearing Babbs and the commentary the experience started to form in my mind, and then the music. Oh man, this was it. Too much! I was deep in the pudding.

It quickly became my goto and my all time fave show. Veneta, Veneta, Veneta! I’d say.

Definitely one of the tapes that made me want to get them all.
Hearing this show, I had to know, how many more shows did they play like this?
Well, there are quite a few close to it, but there’s nothing else quite like it.

Happy Anniversary Veneta, a special place and a special show!

PS - Let Me Tell You It Was Hot! How Hot Was It?!?!
Strider, tell us more Veneta Stories.
Love when Wavy Gravy tells that Sewage story… started laughing just thinking about it.

Veneta, Veneta, Veneta!

8/27/72

That China Cat-Rider is fantastic - great dancing by that girl with long black hair.

Excited for Veneta tonight

I wonder what ever happened to the kid that runs a circle around the band during Dark Star!!! Also played 5/3/72 Paris last night, and listening to Tivoli 4/17/72 right now... Don't know what put me in the Europe 72 mood.... Also last thought, if we do get a second box this year, maybe its a 2 or 3 show box like the RFK box was a few years ago.. bob t

T minus 30 minutes

To blast off 🚀⚡️🚀⚡️🚀⚡️🚀

The faster we go, the rounder we get

Boyee don’t stop now

10 to Go

Looking forward to this!

Oregon

Three Sisters, Crater Lake, Cape Perpetua, Cascade Head, Strawberry Mountains, Steens Mountains, Wallowa Mountains, Painted Hills, Pendleton Roundup, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Grateful Dead, Paramount Theater , Portland, Veneta, University of Oregon, Lowell,(this ain’t no commune) expired beer, brown rice, seaweed and a dirty hot dog, Klamath Falls, Robert M. Petersen, Ken Kesey, Ken Babbs, Mountain Girl, liberation, freedom ain’t free, no free lunch, Florence, sand dunes on the shore, heal the sore wound from the Rainbow Trail, is there more over the next horizon, or is the world flat, was the moon landing just a sham from Craters of the moon, Idaho ? I don’t know, but something does ring true the time has come, comin around- in a circle.