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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #91
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    LedDed - Your take on Slayer just absolutely painted a picture. Never seen them play, but your analogy “ But that's, like, music with things like harmony and melody. Probably chick music to that audience.” had me laughing so hard, my dog thought I finally lost it! Great read!
    It was never the music of speed metal bands I disliked, for there is room for all sounds, it was the scene around it you described. I’m not that fatalistic.

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    *re/ opening band(s) play before the headliners

    ... one of my favorite shows I saw was ‘ Primus ‘ at the old East Rutherford stadium opening up for ‘U2! I took my girlfriend at the time to see her favorite band at that time and it was U2.
    When I learned Primus was opening up the concert I got her 3or 4th row! U2 put on a great show but ‘Primus blew my mind and it seamed the other 15000 attendees did not dig their music at all! Lol, it was a very strange band to open a U2 concert. I still have my T-shirt from the concert.

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    I remember a review when Marquee Moon came out saying they were like a cross between the Grateful Dead and Velvet Underground. Bought it and fell in love with them. Have followed Tom Verlaine ever since. Saw him play a tiny 'club' in Manchester UK in 2007 called 'The Night and Day Cafe' with about 50 other people. Went to San Francisco on honeymoon in 2014 (took me till i was 59 to find true love!!!) where we saw Peter Rowan at Sweetwater with about 15 people having earlier in the day been at a tie-dye time warp at Hardly Strictly Bluegrass in Golden Gate Park seeing Tony Joe White, Felice brothers and headlined by Steve Earle who had John Paul Jones (ex Led Zep) playing mandolin. Multi acts.... Knebworth 74 with Tim Buckley, Alex Harvey, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Van Morrison, Doobies and Allman Bros, Wembley Stadium 74 with Jesse Colin Young, Tom Scott, Joni Mitchell and CSNY, Knebworth 75 with Linda Lewis, Roy Harper, Beefheart, Steve Miller and Pink Floyd. Also saw the Dead at Ally Pally middle night of the 3 sept 74 where i found my Dark Star. Oh for a time warp........

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    The Cabooze

    Or the Boozer. Not sure if it will make it through these terrible times.

    Did you ever see the Gooney Birds there?

    Saw Big Head Todd at the Medina Ball room in maybe 2000, very small venue. Big Head Todd, my god, it has been a long time.

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    So 38 years ago this weekend ...

    I had a most wonderful time at The Frost ...

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    Great Posts

    The Bosh reference came yesterday.. from perhaps Cousins??? I googled it too. I was familiar with his art, but not his name. Never seen slayer but got that vibe, now times two.

    Ledded.. great post. The horrid details and visuals they created. I'm with Brewer. Back to the point, a nice stream of conscience over the last several days with many, many artists and only the slightest trace of a few stray off key vibes.

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    is why I come here every day!

    LedDed, "like some demented methhead let loose in a Guitar Center" made me choke on my beer (Genesee Cream Ale) it was so funny, and THEN you made me go Google Bosch, who is AMAZING, as you knew.

    When I listen to DaP35 I think, "I WISH I could bring all of us back in time to hang out together at this show!!" And I also realize that the sound of this release, while asking us all to be forgiving, is also WAY BETTER SOUNDING than most of the shows I saw at large indoor arenas. If the sound of DaP35 had been what I heard at most of my arena shows, I wouldn't have left those shows so disgruntled. Bravo, Healy, Dave, and all those involved.

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    Slayer....

    ....interesting take. I get it it ledded. They're not for everyone. Noisy? Yes. Not talented? I beg to differ.
    I still enjoy them.

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    *Re/ small venue performances

    ... I believe the ‘atmosphere’ plays a “big” part in the bands performances.
    While I attended ‘Cooper Union’ during and before my college years I went to a lot of shows so many bands the biggest gig ever went to was Woodstock 1994 the 25th year anniversary that was amazing truly mind blowing performances from all types of bands music. I had the time of my life attending that festival of “peace love & music” for three days worth of music to entertain the massive amount of people I have ever seen sure it was truly life all the rating experience very positive.
    I saw “nirvana” at ‘maxwells’ in Hoboken.
    Caught “Pearl Jam” at the ‘Lime light’
    Saw ‘Eek-A-Mouse’/ is a Jamaican reggae musician. He is one of the earliest artists to be described as a "singjay" in Boulder Colorado at a beer brewery maybe 50 people tops.
    I also sent to see the ‘Misfits’ on Halloween! Some Japanese band opened up the show played a great set of music ; very original music. Thing was the theater could hold hundreds of people but the crowd was just 13th of us fans watch the misfit played & sounded beautiful in this empty theatre. No crowd comes off very soft in recordings!
    Went to “Kelly’s” in Tappan NY Also know as the Hog Penny’s, one of my best friends bar/tavern, holds 50 -100 people, we had the JGB with Melven Seals , members of New riders of the purple Sage, ‘Marshall Tucker Band’ then the. Dickiey betts Band! And then for my friends 70th birthday, we got ‘Doctor John’ With Members from the mesters & the radiators! Crazy grateful times!

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    Catching up and scrolling back, what a vast vat of musical knowledge and open mindedness is continually on display here. Just wonderful.

    Of particular mention, "The Cabooze." Growing up in Wisconsin, my best friend going back to 7th grade/best man at my wedding still lives in St. Paul. I go back periodically, and we tear up Minny like bad old lads. The Cabooze, to the uninitiated, is a classic rock and roll dump with a storied history. And a great name.

    Then someone said Slayer was like the soundtrack to a Hieronymus Bosch painting. Thought the same and lived through it. I was in a Hieronymus Bosch painting. In fact, you can still see me there, crouching down and plugging my ears while trying to drink! A buddy of mine in California rides mountain bikes with Kerry King (Slayer guitarist). He got me and a plus one on the guest list for Slayer at the Fillmore in Denver with backstage passes.

    So, we went. It was, in a word, horrible. An unlistenable, evil cacophony of horrid, unrelenting noise for 90 minutes. The lead guitarist who passed, Jeff Hanneman, was particularly putrid. He had, like, baseball catcher's leg armor spray painted silver and affixed to his black jeans in some kind of post-apocalyptic Road Warrior-type nod. Not cool.

    Neither was his soloing, which was basically sweep picking and shredding as fast as possible, mostly in the high register, with no regard for taste, nuance or - KEY! - he just played over everything, atonal, like some demented meth head let loose in Guitar Center. And a legion of greasy, stringy-haired skulls banged along in furious might.

    As we stood at the back of the floor, swilling to kill the pain and taking it all in, I had this moment of, just... sadness and disgust and wanting to flee. Look, I dig the Dead and jazz but also hard rock and I've seen some things and been in a mosh pit or two, just for exercise and to burn off the alcohol. But this was horrifying. So many losers, skinny and drugged out, or fat and drugged out, pasty white, sweating, bad vibes, bad clothes, all black, tattoos of skulls and demons, wild eyes filled with angst and hate. This was not the place to be on acid...

    Bad vibes, man, bad vibes. The wrong kind of drugs and the wrong kind of people. No love, no warmth anywhere in the room, just like some dark pagan ritual gone bad. The Slayer guys made millions out of cultivating this kind of aura, this audience, this niche that they exploited. It did no one any good, and it will be their karma and their legacy.

    Christ, I need a shower just reliving this. It DID look like a Bosch painting... or rather more like actual hell. Maybe it was. Maybe when I die, if I don't make it, I'll be reliving this show in eternity. I dig classic UFO, Dio, Priest, Sabbath, Scorpions. But that's, like, music with things like harmony and melody. Probably chick music to that audience.

    After our long-suffering drinks at the back of the venue, we make our way toward backstage. In my trips backstage over the years, it's generally worth the time spent, if only for the hang and the things you see and hear if you're a big music fan. Back in the day I turned on a couple of people who shall remain nameless... you realize how hollow and shallow it can kind of be, like, "who's got any Krell? I'll be your friend until it runs out." Well, this wasn't even that. In fact, we waited almost an hour while a Slayer stagehand came out and led several women, and a few dudes, past the velvet rope and into the dressing rooms/reception area. I thought at least I'd drop my friend's name who got us in, share a story, and bail. Finally, pass be damned I just said to hell with it and we bailed.

    Fuck Slayer. Love Eddie Van Halen.

    \m/

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:00

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12/3/79

I have the show on as background music for an on-line training where I just have to listen.

Terrapin allllmost comes to a complete stop.

sounds a group of sloths playing

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: much love to you; so sad you got "Horse" disease. A true tragedy.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 15:21

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isn't heading Boris Johnson's house??

And Vguy, please don't stop the "jokes"... it's the little things now and a silly smile is worth a million [fill in whether you value love or money and state the denomination...]

A penguin is driving down the road and can feel something is not right with his car...he sees a repair shop and pulls in...he tells the mechanic something's wrong but I'm not sure what...the mechanic tells him "ok give me about an hour to check it out"...the penguin goes out on the street, looks around and sees an ice cream shop...he goes in and orders an extra large dish of vanilla bean ice cream and starts dipping his beak into it, enjoying the ice cream...later on he goes back to the repair shop, the mechanic looks up from what he is doing and tells the penguin "looks like you blew a seal"...the penguin shrugs, wipes his bill on his shoulder and sez "Nah, it's only ice cream..."

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Submitted by Gollum on Mon, 08/24/2020 - 22:43

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mm...okay, that's pretty good-

Always loved a good joke, thanks for the laughter, it feels grateful! ... What would you rather have? a five dollar foot long or a free 8 inches?
I’m sorry, that’s the last joke I ever tell. Love them just don’t have any...lol

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 04:54

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?

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“It’s too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin’ around here”

-Billy Madison

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Moses, my apologies! I forgot what your avatar was and started using it a few months back when I made my first trip through the E72 box and saw the cover for 5/18. I've changed it now, as you can see. Can't show up at prom in the same dress as someone else! How gauche.

SJButler--I would also get Charlie's Angels trading cards, even though I had never been allowed to watch the show. I eventually traded for a card that had Farah standing naked behind a bush, which was the best card anyone at our school had.

I was at a party in the B.C. times (Before Covid), and these two guys were talking about how they were sure that the original Star Wars (yes, I had trading cards of that, too) came out in 1979. After a while I calmly stated, "The original SW came out on 5/25/77." The only reason I know that is because of DaP1. The one guy kind of accepted that, but the other (who had been busy all night brashly telling everyone all the "facts" in his head) glared at me and said, "I think it came out in 1979." I demurely said, "You may think that, but you'll be wrong . . . " with a little bit of tease in my voice. I was about to tell them how I had that date memorized, but the know-it-all glared harder at me and stormed off before I could explain how I wasn't being rude but was just trying to needle him a bit. Oh, well. The other people grinned, as they had grown tired of the blowhard anyway.

p.s. Casey--How 'bout them Twins, eh? :)

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 09:46

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Couple days late on this but did anybody listen to TIGDH on SiriusXM a couple days ago? Dave was talking about some 8 track recordings From ‘68 that were ultimately set aside when the then state of the art 16 track machines came out. Dave went on to say that we’d be seeing these 8 track recordings “soon”. He didn’t give much more and I got the impression it would more of a one off release vs a full box set or anything. Maybe a RSD release or something but that was my take and he was off the subject within a few seconds. The date of these specific recordings was 8.21.68 but assume there are more multitrack tapes from the same effort.

Did anybody else hear the same thing?

What ever it is it would be great. I went back and loaded up the Tahoe Bowl stuff from February ‘68 (DiP 22 of I’m thinking of correctly). Smoking stuff!

Seems like there is a bunch of pending stuff (AB50, Dap 36, maybe a fall box???) so maybe what I heard was more what I wanted to hear Dave say....

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:26

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I didn't hear Dave talking about it, but maybe he was referring to the Aoxomoxoa outakes. I believe they started recording in 8 track and then 16 track came along and they started over. I would love it if they released the Aixomoxoa outakes, or any thing from 1968. I would love to see some of the tour of the Great Pacific Northwest be released. Thanks for the post GreenMtnDead , it's encouraging.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:30

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...next Boxset , is the 5LP’s Buffalo 77’ performance on 9 sides , the 10th side is an Etching! They used the original analog tapes/ recordings which in my opinion, makes this one of the best sounding release to date on vinyl . this Vinyl release is easily included in the top 5 Primo audio records ever released by the dead & team to date. Only 7700 will be issued / released , I would Recommend every fan to buy one and even if you don’t have a turntable this just make might make you start looking for one because magical things will happen My brother and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 10:49

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Green Mtn Dead - I might be wrong, but I think it was part of this show that was due to come out on vinyl with that comic-Origins. It would be good to see it released on vinyl or cd.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:00

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Ha, ya they just beat up on my Royals pretty good. Young arms aren’t quite up to par yet, but I think this COVID shortened season will do them some good while providing some necessary experience on the big stage. Good luck to the Twins! As mentioned before I think the division is theirs for the taking!!!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 12:53

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Tasty

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:07

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Daverock -

You nailed it - The 8.21.68 show is coming with the Origins on vinyl if you get the Deluxe set. Would love to see that come out on CD (sorry, I'm just not a vinyl guy). I was surprised a year or two ago when the '80 Warfield acoustic sets that were originally RSD releases showed up as a general release. So maybe this vinyl release will show up on CD.

Crazy Fingers Crossed......

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Submitted by estimating prof on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 15:28

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A couple days ago I got to give Dave's 35 a focused and loud listen, and I really enjoyed it. The scarlet/fire has some really peaking moments. I had not heard this show before the release and I think it is right up there for me as a favorite from the 83 - 85 period. I think it's one of the better 80s releases that has come out. The filler from the night before is also excellent.

Can anyone recommend any other standout Scarlet/Fires from 84 or 85?

What about other great shows from 84, besides Augusta?

I listened to a Frost 85 show to get ready for this release and I enjoyed that one quite a bit also, Scarlet>Eyes!

Cheers Ya'll

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 16:04

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I believe they recorded the Pacific Northwest run on Multitrack (8 Track) in Jan/Feb 68. Didn't Lemieux mention that these 8 tracks were found in someone's attic or returned or something.. or perhaps found in a hidden pile in the vault. There is some mysterious history here that I cannot quite put my finger on. ..but if someone is talking about a release of 68 multi-tracks I got the feeling they did not release everything they had when Road Trips Vol 2 No 2 came out (2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom).

Talk of this makes my day, a new multi-track 68 release would at least in part make up for the shitstorm that 2020 has become.

Prof, agree that #35 seems by some to have become unjustly maligned. It has it's moments.

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How else would I know the difference between an axe and a maul?

https://www.dead.net/forum/log

It’s not like I’m heading to Dubai or India anytime soon, so I don’t need any escorts.
But a maul, oh man!

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Wow, that guy has everything, and he’s actively posting right now on a variety of boards.
Sounds like he knows his synthetic motor oil too.
Wonder if he could give us a review on DaP 1-35?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 08/25/2020 - 17:24

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I'm gonna ask Dave one question:

"Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?"

Where is that from? Answer correctly, and you could win A NEW CAR!

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New York Dolls 1st album. It still gets played when the time is right. You may want to investigate 'A Hard Night's Day', demos for all of the first album and half of the 2nd. It has a suitably rougher sound than the official releases. Though I have many of his albums, Todd Rundgren wasn't the best choice for producing the 1st album imho.

They were quite hip in England circa 1973. Legendary appearance on the T.V show "The Old Grey Whistle Test," playing "Looking For a Kiss" and "Jet Boy"- priceless. A visibily rankled Bob Harris-the host of the show-sums them up as "mock rock".
Due to Nick Kent writing for the New Musical Express, my vision of top of the range American rock in the early 70s was formed in the image of Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Flamin' Groovies and the Dolls. All leading to Patti Smith, Televison and The Ramones in 75-76. Which gave birth to British punk. Which wasn't as good.

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Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
💀🌹

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I wasn’t too in to that Glam Rock scene with the Dolls, but I had a couple of friends who were pretty in to Mott The Hoople, so we ventured out to see them when they came through town in ‘74 (Kansas opened - kind of a mismatch there). Mick Ralphs had left the band then, replaced by Spooky Tooth guitarist Ariel Bender (an alias, for contractual reasons), and I have to admit, not a bad show. Ian Hunter was quite the showman.

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Yet another band who have accompanied me through life-great singles and albums. I wasn't actually into glam culture as such-just the records, which coincided with my mid teens. Alice Cooper were another American band from that era , the most visible in England , courtesy of "Schools Out", who seemed to have the right idea.

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 12:53

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Winning the 'prize' is enough! (LOL)...how about if we donate it to USPS? They can use all the help they can get...as long as it's not used to ferry Louis DeJoy back and forth to work!

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I have never been able to figure out how they decide what number of a limited edition you get. Probably because I have normally been on the wrong end of the numbering system for most limited items. I am now baffled in a good way. Decided to treat myself to a gift and ordered the Pacific Northwest box. Internet says there are less than 1500 left so I figured I better pull the trigger. Was just blessed with receiving #136 out of 15,000. I promise I won't complain about receiving high numbers anymore!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/26/2020 - 14:54

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about Scarlet > Fire from 84 and 85

6 18 83 needs to be included

6 21 84
3 28 85
7 13 84 scarlet touch fire
4 20 84
12 31 84

3 10 81

A CM Board...

Grateful Dead
Berkeley Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA
August 24, 1972

Set 1:
d1t01 - Promised Land
d1t02 - Sugaree
d1t03 - Jack Straw
d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t05 - I Know You Rider
d1t06 - Me And My Uncle
d1t07 - Bird Song
d1t08 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t09 - Tennessee Jed
d1t10 - Playing In The Band
d2t01 - Casey Jones

Set 2:
d2t02 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
d2t03 - Mexicali Blues
d2t04 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t05 - Truckin'
d2t06 - Dark Star ->
d2t07 - Morning Dew
d3t01 - Sugar Magnolia
d3t02 - Ramble On Rose
d3t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d3t04 - Sing Me Back Home
d3t05 - One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
d3t06 - Uncle John's Band

Assuming that the lower number Boxes get put together first, they would also be on the first pallets loaded during manufacturing, and then placed somewhere in the warehouse with other pallets in front of them. Distribution then starts at the higher numbers which came off the assembly line later and the pallets sit in front of the pallets with lower numbers. They then start shipping the higher numbers and work toward the lower numbers.
Your hesitation paid off.

Of course, CD 00001 gets dropped on a spindle, and 00002 gets dropped on top of it, and it keeps going.
CD 22000, which sits at the top of the pile after manufacturing, gets put in CD holder 00001, assuming that the number gets printed right before the shrink wrap goes on.

To further complicate things, if more than one production line is running, say 4 lines for a 20000 unit release, then there are 4 ‘first-units’.

When people fill orders they just grab off of the pile, most likely with no thought of the number they are giving you.

This is pure speculation, I am not a paid attorney spokesperson.

Congrats on the low number!

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Apparently the trolls are still running wild on this string and you know who you are. Don't take the bait!

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