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    Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    Oh...duh - Kansas and Cheap Trick

    Not exactly huge acts in the 90s, but saw them in tiny venues with no assigned seating..

    Saw Kansas in Ocean City Maryland at Scandals. $5 cover charge, walked right up to the front of the stage. I was familiar with their greatest hits so I figured what the heck. I was in college a half hour, so I made a night of it with some friends. It was funny... The lead singer had on a black Kansas hat.
    A guy in front of the stage next to me had the exact same hat. After the show, the lead singer was leaning into the crowd giving high fives to the people in front. The dude next to me with the identitical hat had removed his own, swiped the lead singer's hat when he leaned in for the high 5 and immediately returned it; except he swapped the hats unbeknownst to the singer and returned the wrong one. So now that dude has the lead singer's hat as a trophy and the lead singer has no idea. Smooth move. My wallet also went missing that night. I've always wondered...

    Went to Disney World with my wife back in the 90s. There's a place called Pleasure Island where I saw Cheap Trick play. I had never been into them. The only song I recognized was I Want You to Want Me. It was funny though, because I recognized the line that Damone sings in Fast Times during Surrender. They kicked ass. That was another one where I just walked up to the front of the stage. As soon as I got home I bought Greatest Hits and Live at Budokan. The Dream Police

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    aagh. I am avoiding work...

    1/11/78 is a great show.

    A box set of California January 78 would be good. Jerry's voice is in the trash compactor for much of it, but again.......

    I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

  • proudfoot
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    and from out of nowhere...

    I am having my occasional listen to Doors' albums.

    Waiting for the Sun: awesome
    Morrison Hotel: awesome
    LA Woman: awesome

    so good.

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    re DLR:

    1981: yours truly is a McDonald's schmuck employee in South Pasadena CA. I take the trash out the back door, which is very close to where the drive-through order intercom is. There is DLR in a BMW ordering something. I called out to him, but he ignored me. (I am still surprised at that...no, not really.)

    what a juxtaposition, as I think about it 39 years later.

    RIP, Eddie.

    Oh, yes: I also had the hots for VB, JiminMD.

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    RIP EVH

    Agree with what has been posted. A terrific talent. I must admit I never got into their music, however.. the glam and DLR were such a violent depart from what I had settled into by the time they really took off. Still, I respect the talent he was and a little confession, I had the hots for his wife.. so jealously clearly played a part.

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    Reading GaryF’s great write up on seeing Ricky Nelson’s final show (!) made me think not of all the shows I’ve seen, but the one I really regret missing, and shoulda coulda. My wife and I were watching Dylan’s No Direction Home, and when we saw the clip of Odetta we did a collective “Wow”! I wasn’t familiar with her much, but did some digging, great respect for this lady’s voice, like Roy Orbison meets Johnny Cash. As it turned out, she was playing a small folk club in town called Hugh’s Room, that I’d been to many times (I met Chris Hillman there). We hemmed and hawed, and for some frigging reason, we decided to count our toothpicks that night rather than venture out, and see her, something I’ll always regret, because she passed away six weeks later. To have heard her “live” would have been a joy.
    It is for this reason that when Wayne Shorter made an ultra rare appearance a couple of years ago, I went. No more missing legends.

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    RIP eddie VH

    First caught them with Sammy on the 5150 tour. You have to have a unique singer or two to make it in rock. To replace a one-singer frontman like Bon Scott or David Lee Roth and to be successful at it - damn near impossible. But Sammy got the job done in the studio and onstage, though I prefer those old records with DLR best.

    Saw them a couple more times with Sammy, saw them with the guy from Extreme singing (decent record, but man that guy did not fit in onstage).

    And finally DLR returned and just plain couldn't sing his own songs. But they ran deep in their catalog and the Van Halen brothers were spot on. It was always a thrill watching Eddie play. The LPs didn't do Eddie justice; you had to see him play live to fully appreciate the command he had over that instrument. Never saw anything like it.

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    R.I.P., Eddie--Small Venues

    Dusted off Van Halen's eponymous debut CD last night for listening. In my mind, there was no Van Halen after Diamond Dave left. :-O Maybe I'll crank 1984 next.

    I've told this tale here before, but one night at a tiny jazz club in Saint Paul, the bartender asked the 12 or so of us who were there for the regular Tuesday night band to please indulge some friends of the owner with a set while the Tuesday night band took a break. At the end of the hot bluesy set, the bartender came up as the fill-ins left the stage and said, "Ladies and gentlemen--the Steve Miller Band." They had played a "hits" show for many thousands the night before. My friend and I sure didn't recognize them, but enjoyed the set!

    I saw Phish at the Cabooze with about 75 attendees back in 1991, and saw Widespread play for about 100 at a park in a smaller city about the same time. When I lived in Frisco, Co, someone said to go see a group one Friday. I went, and the band played for free for about 15 of us in Dillon, and their name was String Cheese Incident.

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    Great shows

    Yes, that Longbeach 1997 Blues Festival has an amazing lineup.
    Also-Nappyrags-seeing The Stones/Ike and Tina Turner/B.B.King in 1969 now has legendary status. Terry Reid was good too-I saw him in a small club about 15 years ago. Apparently he was Jimmy Page's first choice as vocalist for the New Yardbirds, but he turned it down as his solo career looked as though it was going to take off. It was him who recommended Robert Plant, for the New Yardbirds gig I think. Great singer.

  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    Bummer...

    Like Proudfoot said, it was a small window in my musical life, but those first 2 or 3 Van Halen albums were dear to me. Still give 'em listening time here and there. That's what my older brothers and sisters were into and that means that it's what I was into in the early 80's.
    Eruption was a fantastic thing for an 11 year old kid. Thanks Eddie.

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Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out. 

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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12/3/79

I have the show on as background music for an on-line training where I just have to listen.

Terrapin allllmost comes to a complete stop.

sounds a group of sloths playing

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: much love to you; so sad you got "Horse" disease. A true tragedy.

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isn't heading Boris Johnson's house??

And Vguy, please don't stop the "jokes"... it's the little things now and a silly smile is worth a million [fill in whether you value love or money and state the denomination...]

A penguin is driving down the road and can feel something is not right with his car...he sees a repair shop and pulls in...he tells the mechanic something's wrong but I'm not sure what...the mechanic tells him "ok give me about an hour to check it out"...the penguin goes out on the street, looks around and sees an ice cream shop...he goes in and orders an extra large dish of vanilla bean ice cream and starts dipping his beak into it, enjoying the ice cream...later on he goes back to the repair shop, the mechanic looks up from what he is doing and tells the penguin "looks like you blew a seal"...the penguin shrugs, wipes his bill on his shoulder and sez "Nah, it's only ice cream..."

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mm...okay, that's pretty good-

Always loved a good joke, thanks for the laughter, it feels grateful! ... What would you rather have? a five dollar foot long or a free 8 inches?
I’m sorry, that’s the last joke I ever tell. Love them just don’t have any...lol

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-Billy Madison

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Moses, my apologies! I forgot what your avatar was and started using it a few months back when I made my first trip through the E72 box and saw the cover for 5/18. I've changed it now, as you can see. Can't show up at prom in the same dress as someone else! How gauche.

SJButler--I would also get Charlie's Angels trading cards, even though I had never been allowed to watch the show. I eventually traded for a card that had Farah standing naked behind a bush, which was the best card anyone at our school had.

I was at a party in the B.C. times (Before Covid), and these two guys were talking about how they were sure that the original Star Wars (yes, I had trading cards of that, too) came out in 1979. After a while I calmly stated, "The original SW came out on 5/25/77." The only reason I know that is because of DaP1. The one guy kind of accepted that, but the other (who had been busy all night brashly telling everyone all the "facts" in his head) glared at me and said, "I think it came out in 1979." I demurely said, "You may think that, but you'll be wrong . . . " with a little bit of tease in my voice. I was about to tell them how I had that date memorized, but the know-it-all glared harder at me and stormed off before I could explain how I wasn't being rude but was just trying to needle him a bit. Oh, well. The other people grinned, as they had grown tired of the blowhard anyway.

p.s. Casey--How 'bout them Twins, eh? :)

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Couple days late on this but did anybody listen to TIGDH on SiriusXM a couple days ago? Dave was talking about some 8 track recordings From ‘68 that were ultimately set aside when the then state of the art 16 track machines came out. Dave went on to say that we’d be seeing these 8 track recordings “soon”. He didn’t give much more and I got the impression it would more of a one off release vs a full box set or anything. Maybe a RSD release or something but that was my take and he was off the subject within a few seconds. The date of these specific recordings was 8.21.68 but assume there are more multitrack tapes from the same effort.

Did anybody else hear the same thing?

What ever it is it would be great. I went back and loaded up the Tahoe Bowl stuff from February ‘68 (DiP 22 of I’m thinking of correctly). Smoking stuff!

Seems like there is a bunch of pending stuff (AB50, Dap 36, maybe a fall box???) so maybe what I heard was more what I wanted to hear Dave say....

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I didn't hear Dave talking about it, but maybe he was referring to the Aoxomoxoa outakes. I believe they started recording in 8 track and then 16 track came along and they started over. I would love it if they released the Aixomoxoa outakes, or any thing from 1968. I would love to see some of the tour of the Great Pacific Northwest be released. Thanks for the post GreenMtnDead , it's encouraging.

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...next Boxset , is the 5LP’s Buffalo 77’ performance on 9 sides , the 10th side is an Etching! They used the original analog tapes/ recordings which in my opinion, makes this one of the best sounding release to date on vinyl . this Vinyl release is easily included in the top 5 Primo audio records ever released by the dead & team to date. Only 7700 will be issued / released , I would Recommend every fan to buy one and even if you don’t have a turntable this just make might make you start looking for one because magical things will happen My brother and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Green Mtn Dead - I might be wrong, but I think it was part of this show that was due to come out on vinyl with that comic-Origins. It would be good to see it released on vinyl or cd.

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Ha, ya they just beat up on my Royals pretty good. Young arms aren’t quite up to par yet, but I think this COVID shortened season will do them some good while providing some necessary experience on the big stage. Good luck to the Twins! As mentioned before I think the division is theirs for the taking!!!!

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Tasty

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Daverock -

You nailed it - The 8.21.68 show is coming with the Origins on vinyl if you get the Deluxe set. Would love to see that come out on CD (sorry, I'm just not a vinyl guy). I was surprised a year or two ago when the '80 Warfield acoustic sets that were originally RSD releases showed up as a general release. So maybe this vinyl release will show up on CD.

Crazy Fingers Crossed......

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A couple days ago I got to give Dave's 35 a focused and loud listen, and I really enjoyed it. The scarlet/fire has some really peaking moments. I had not heard this show before the release and I think it is right up there for me as a favorite from the 83 - 85 period. I think it's one of the better 80s releases that has come out. The filler from the night before is also excellent.

Can anyone recommend any other standout Scarlet/Fires from 84 or 85?

What about other great shows from 84, besides Augusta?

I listened to a Frost 85 show to get ready for this release and I enjoyed that one quite a bit also, Scarlet>Eyes!

Cheers Ya'll

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I believe they recorded the Pacific Northwest run on Multitrack (8 Track) in Jan/Feb 68. Didn't Lemieux mention that these 8 tracks were found in someone's attic or returned or something.. or perhaps found in a hidden pile in the vault. There is some mysterious history here that I cannot quite put my finger on. ..but if someone is talking about a release of 68 multi-tracks I got the feeling they did not release everything they had when Road Trips Vol 2 No 2 came out (2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom).

Talk of this makes my day, a new multi-track 68 release would at least in part make up for the shitstorm that 2020 has become.

Prof, agree that #35 seems by some to have become unjustly maligned. It has it's moments.

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How else would I know the difference between an axe and a maul?

https://www.dead.net/forum/log

It’s not like I’m heading to Dubai or India anytime soon, so I don’t need any escorts.
But a maul, oh man!

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Wow, that guy has everything, and he’s actively posting right now on a variety of boards.
Sounds like he knows his synthetic motor oil too.
Wonder if he could give us a review on DaP 1-35?

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I'm gonna ask Dave one question:

"Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?"

Where is that from? Answer correctly, and you could win A NEW CAR!

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New York Dolls 1st album. It still gets played when the time is right. You may want to investigate 'A Hard Night's Day', demos for all of the first album and half of the 2nd. It has a suitably rougher sound than the official releases. Though I have many of his albums, Todd Rundgren wasn't the best choice for producing the 1st album imho.

They were quite hip in England circa 1973. Legendary appearance on the T.V show "The Old Grey Whistle Test," playing "Looking For a Kiss" and "Jet Boy"- priceless. A visibily rankled Bob Harris-the host of the show-sums them up as "mock rock".
Due to Nick Kent writing for the New Musical Express, my vision of top of the range American rock in the early 70s was formed in the image of Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, Flamin' Groovies and the Dolls. All leading to Patti Smith, Televison and The Ramones in 75-76. Which gave birth to British punk. Which wasn't as good.

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Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
💀🌹

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I wasn’t too in to that Glam Rock scene with the Dolls, but I had a couple of friends who were pretty in to Mott The Hoople, so we ventured out to see them when they came through town in ‘74 (Kansas opened - kind of a mismatch there). Mick Ralphs had left the band then, replaced by Spooky Tooth guitarist Ariel Bender (an alias, for contractual reasons), and I have to admit, not a bad show. Ian Hunter was quite the showman.

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Yet another band who have accompanied me through life-great singles and albums. I wasn't actually into glam culture as such-just the records, which coincided with my mid teens. Alice Cooper were another American band from that era , the most visible in England , courtesy of "Schools Out", who seemed to have the right idea.

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Winning the 'prize' is enough! (LOL)...how about if we donate it to USPS? They can use all the help they can get...as long as it's not used to ferry Louis DeJoy back and forth to work!

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I have never been able to figure out how they decide what number of a limited edition you get. Probably because I have normally been on the wrong end of the numbering system for most limited items. I am now baffled in a good way. Decided to treat myself to a gift and ordered the Pacific Northwest box. Internet says there are less than 1500 left so I figured I better pull the trigger. Was just blessed with receiving #136 out of 15,000. I promise I won't complain about receiving high numbers anymore!

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about Scarlet > Fire from 84 and 85

6 18 83 needs to be included

6 21 84
3 28 85
7 13 84 scarlet touch fire
4 20 84
12 31 84

3 10 81

A CM Board...

Grateful Dead
Berkeley Community Theatre
Berkeley, CA
August 24, 1972

Set 1:
d1t01 - Promised Land
d1t02 - Sugaree
d1t03 - Jack Straw
d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t05 - I Know You Rider
d1t06 - Me And My Uncle
d1t07 - Bird Song
d1t08 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t09 - Tennessee Jed
d1t10 - Playing In The Band
d2t01 - Casey Jones

Set 2:
d2t02 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
d2t03 - Mexicali Blues
d2t04 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t05 - Truckin'
d2t06 - Dark Star ->
d2t07 - Morning Dew
d3t01 - Sugar Magnolia
d3t02 - Ramble On Rose
d3t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d3t04 - Sing Me Back Home
d3t05 - One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
d3t06 - Uncle John's Band

Assuming that the lower number Boxes get put together first, they would also be on the first pallets loaded during manufacturing, and then placed somewhere in the warehouse with other pallets in front of them. Distribution then starts at the higher numbers which came off the assembly line later and the pallets sit in front of the pallets with lower numbers. They then start shipping the higher numbers and work toward the lower numbers.
Your hesitation paid off.

Of course, CD 00001 gets dropped on a spindle, and 00002 gets dropped on top of it, and it keeps going.
CD 22000, which sits at the top of the pile after manufacturing, gets put in CD holder 00001, assuming that the number gets printed right before the shrink wrap goes on.

To further complicate things, if more than one production line is running, say 4 lines for a 20000 unit release, then there are 4 ‘first-units’.

When people fill orders they just grab off of the pile, most likely with no thought of the number they are giving you.

This is pure speculation, I am not a paid attorney spokesperson.

Congrats on the low number!

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Apparently the trolls are still running wild on this string and you know who you are. Don't take the bait!

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